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Request for Assistance

Hi @Isabelle Belato. You are an administrator that I respect quite a lot. I would, therefore, value your contribution to the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian political violence (3rd nomination). It would mean a lot to have a third-party, experienced perspective.

Oh, and here's a kitten for you!

Firecat93 (talk) 19:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Firecat93, thanks for your message. From a quick gander, this does not look like an administrative issue, as such, I don't believe there is any need to intervene. As an aside, this could be seen as an attempt to canvass someone to help gain support for a specific position. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 21:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for letting me know Firecat93 (talk) 23:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Suspected Sock

Hello. Wishing you a belated happy and prosperous New Year 2025.

I request your help and inspection regarding a suspected sock and his edits to List of highest-grossing Indian Bengali films. Two accounts: "Ayaasho" and "Anirban est". After noticing their edit history, I am pretty sure that both of them are the same person and are sockpuppets of Holud Foressa.

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Halud Foressa/Archive

Although these accounts have made useful and informative edits to Khadaan, the person is constantly manipulating and vandalising List of highest-grossing Indian Bengali films. He is adding unnecessary INRConvert formats, putting inflated figures for all the films, replacing films from the list with his favourite films by putting high numbers and is even changing the title of the reference to make it look reliable in the preview. Also, there are a few films in the list, for which, the reference which has been added, says nothing about the collections. I tried to fix the page but he reverted back my edits. After a few days, I fixed the page again but he once again reverted my edits.

I would request you to look into matter and also maybe increase the page protection of List of highest-grossing Indian Bengali films from WP:SEMI to WP:ECP or else maybe warn the user for being a sockpuppet with problematic edits, after you have done the inspection to confirm him as a sock.

Thanks

BhikhariInformer (talk) 16:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi BhikhariInformer. I'm not too familiar with this sockmaster, so I'm not sure I can be of much help here, but I don't see much overlap between those accounts. It does seem they are adding information to the list without updating the sources, so you can always revert them and leave a note about the importance of reliable sources. If the behavior continues, we can consider sanctions then. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 16:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Okay.

Thanks BhikhariInformer (talk) 02:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

@Isabelle Belato Sorry to tag you regarding this again and sorry in beforehand for this lengthy message. But I kindly request you to look into this again and read this message. If you see the history of the page List of highest-grossing Indian Bengali films for only yesterday, you will notice that that I changed the existing wrong info on the page but everytime, it was reverted by "Anirban est". Presently, a favourite version of him exists in the article with manipulated figures.

And If you don't believe me, I will request you to open the references attached, see the figures mentioned there and then see the figures which are present on Wikipedia. Barring the top 5 films, all figures have been inflated. Moreover, few films are there on the list like "Shedin Dekha Hoyechilo", "Saptapadi" and "Awara" are present on the list, but the reference attached does not mention anything about their box office. So, they should not be on the list. ((And I am totally ignoring the fact that many films are there, whose box office is reported by Times of India, which is a not a reliable source for box office as per WP:ICTFSOURCES))

However, as per your suggestion, I wrote about this on his talk page when he reverted back to his own wrong version yesterday. But he replied in a really rude tone, is even putting fake allegations of vandalism on me and even boasts that he will continue to do so. Here is the conversation:[1]. If you scrutinize through my roughly 7500 edits, you will see never have I tried to or even did vandalise any page. In my short span of 2 years, besides film updates, I have fixed many articles in dilapidated state, fixed many bio pages whose works link to wrong pages, attached references to plenty of articles having just 1 or no citation, expanded articles, corrected terrific grammars in many bios, kept filmographies updated, created new articles with ample citations, done innumerous minor fixes and maintained several pages if any new editor has done any wrong formatting.((Most articles are related to West Bengal)).

And I will move out of this space of working on the pages of Bengali films, actors, production houses and singers. There are plenty of articles of Bengal region, like temples, small towns, rail stations and festivals which need to be corrected as per a proper encyclopedia tone and need references to be attached. And I am really sorry that I am writing these things to you.

Just one last thing. Now, I am not even asking to block any user. Because, its clear that the person will return with a new account, no matter how many times he gets blocked. Moreover, let him be here in the film space because although he manipulates this page, he has indeed done a lot of edits in the new film articles of the past few years.

And of this page, I am tired of fixing it now. Initially unprotected, I requested WP:SEMI. It became safe from from IP vandalism but now EC users are also vandalising it. All I want to say is, if possible, increase the page protection of the page from WP:SEMI to WP:ECP and restore the top list of 20 films to the last version by Anoopspeaks. He made the article totally cleansed of any wrong info and unreliable sources. I will never interfere in the Bengali film space or this article in the future again. And if possible, do suggest me a way to delete my account. I would probably move out from Wiki.😞

Hope you will read the full message in details.

Thanks

BhikhariInformer (talk) 03:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)