User talk:Ianswingland

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Time to start talking?

With regards to Ian Swingland, which you clearly have an interest in since you are (I presume) Ian Swingland: you need to be aware of various policies we have here. The most obvious of these is WP:COI. From which I quote: This page in a nutshell: Do not edit Wikipedia in your own interests or in the interests of your external relationships. That doesn't quite mean "do not edit your own wiki page" (there's a subtle distinction there) but in your case it might as well say so. The second that you'll be interested in is WP:BLP, which says This page in a nutshell: Material about living persons added to any Wikipedia page must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and avoidance of original research.

In this case the material to which you object ([1]) appears to be verifiable, neutral and without OR. If you dispute that, please say (either here, or on the article talk page) what you find objectionable.

Another place to discuss such matters is Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Ian_Swingland; I've raised the issue there William M. Connolley (talk) 14:40, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And was acquitted of the principal cheat count?

Hi. You recently added "and was acquitted of the principal cheat count" [2]. I don't see a source for that. Do you have one? For the moment, I've reverted that text, because it appeared to be sourceless. But if you assure us that it is true, it could go back with a {{cn}} tag. Do you perhaps have a scan of the appropriate summary court documents available? William M. Connolley (talk) 15:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Connolley. I refer you to http://www.carmelitechambers.co.uk/members/jonathan-lennon 6th paragraph. The reference [13] needs replacing as it gives further information about what happened and why.

I'm not sure what you mean re ref [13]; I preserved your added ref. As to http://www.carmelitechambers.co.uk/members/jonathan-lennon, OK, I'll add it with text. It isn't a good ref though: your own lawyer is not exactly an impartial source, and the language is weaselly. Is there some reason why there is no official record? William M. Connolley (talk) 07:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Connolley. IN CONFIDENCE

I have just been informed that any mention of the trial is a breach of the Order and is therefore potentially a contempt of court. I want my entire entry deleted, as I requested in the first place, otherwise Wikipedia is putting me in severe danger and possible legal action against me and you.

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From: "Jonathan Lennon" To: "Ian Swingland" <ianswingland@gmail.com> Cc: "Cairns Nelson" Sent: 10/08/2018 09:12:51 Subject: Ian Swingland website entry

Ian/ Cairns,

I am in a case at Southwark again. Being prosecuted by Julian Christopher QC again. This week he spoke to me about my Chambers website – he was passing on a request from HMRC. The Rozzers seem to think my Chambers website on your case entry might have offended the reporting restrictions currently in place – because the tax evasion trial is yet to happen. I really don’t think it does but they said that your (Ian’s) Wikipedia page I think (how ironic) also referred to it and is in breach of the Order and is therefore potentially a contempt of court punishable by death. I promised I would get my website changed and would pass on the concerns. I have just this morning sent the below message to my Chambers which completely removes any reference to Amazon or your name and can’t possibly offend anyone. I haven’t seen your web entry but I would suggest you remove yours completely ASAP as it obviously identifies you and someone at HMRC is upset by it and will check it! Once the tax trial is over you can write whatever you want (so long as it doesn’t incite or encourage violence against Customs Officers!).

I have cc’d Cairns into this just to advise him and also to say hello – hello Cairns!

Hope you are both having a good summer,

Best

J

Ianswingland (talk) 08:45, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia is putting me in severe danger and possible legal action against me and you". Sorry, what? How do you work this one out? The article merely reports facts cited from reliable sources (which are still themselves online). Please stop deleting chunks of the article or you will be blocked. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is contempt of court in the UK punishable by death? Canterbury Tail talk 12:57, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm hoping that was just a bit of hyperbole! -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:09, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

August 2018

Hello, I'm Abelmoschus Esculentus. I noticed that in this edit to Ian Swingland, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:38, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the court order

Your recent edits could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:21, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disclaimers

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In other words, Wikipedia content is not under the UK's jurisdiction, period. Furthermore, per WP:Content disclaimer: Wikipedia's current policy is to include [controversial and/or objectionable] content, provided it breaches neither any of our existing policies … nor the laws of the United States, where Wikipedia is hosted."
If you make any further legal threats, or edit your own article in violation of the conflicts of interest policy, your account will be blocked indefinitely. This is your final warning. Swarm ♠ 12:15, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

August 2018

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Ianswingland", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because WP:IMPERSONATE. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Your username indicates you may be connected with Ian Swingland. To protect high profile individuals, Wikipedia requires that high profile individuals verify their identity. See WP:IMPERSONATE. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 19:10, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]