User talk:IanBoyd3

GRIN Technology

I have proposed this article for deletion; if you disagree, please discuss the matter on the article's talk page. --Brianyoumans 00:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GRIN Technology

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article GRIN Technology, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of GRIN Technology. Brianyoumans (talk) 13:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Emma Watson

Emma is not under the legal age to drink in her native country! The US has one of the highest drinking ages, she's not a US citizen. ForestJay 02:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I actually wasn't the one who removed your post. Do you have proof of where and when the photos were taken? Children are allowed to drink (with their parent's permission) in their own homes in the UK.ForestJay 13:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your recent edits to Emma Watson, the pictures and information about her alleged drinking fall under "poorly sourced contentious material" regarding the subject, and should not remain in the article. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons for further explanation. Thank you. --Kevin Walter 08:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Under-age drinking is misleading. It implies she is under the legal age of drinking. She is under the age of majority, not the age of drinking. A reader could mistake the statement to mean that she was breaking the law (and possibly a code of ethics) which is not the case. ForestJay 19:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken. ;-) I have modified my comment. --Kevin Walter 22:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two issues are at stake here: the inference that she actually consumed the depicted alcohol and the unencyclopedic nature of the information/photos. By assuming that she was actually ingesting the alcohol in the pictures, as opposed to them being posed, one is drawing an inference of original research. This issue was discussed at great length on the talk page when the pictures first surfaced -- see here. Additionally, (and rendering my first argument moot), the fact that she (might have) consumed alcohol is neither encyclopedic (to the point of being contentious: damaging to the reputation of the subject) nor verifiable. Does that help clarify things a bit? --Kevin Walter 23:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's quite alright, we're all here to learn, and I hope you aren't dissuaded from future edits. Keep in mind that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and particularly for biography articles, it is best not to portray the subject in a negative light without proper attribution. (And for the record, I had nothing to do with that ridiculous toast statement ;-).) --Kevin Walter 07:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]