User talk:IPhonehurricane95/Archive 1

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Jeffrey Gu! Thank you for your contributions. I am Ser Amantio di Nicolao and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Hey there

Hiya. I'm sorry that your Philippe article got reverted, but the person who did it was right. Philippe just wasn't important enough to get an article. However, there are many articles that currently exist that need work. If you'd be interested, I could give you a hand. I've been in the hurricane project for six years now, and we're always in need of writers. Lemme know! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:42, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I removed that image you put in the Ophelia article. It broke up the paragraph unnecessarily, and it was similar (but inferior) to the image in the infobox. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:43, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey, lemme know if you get this message. You're making a lot of unnecessary articles. Generally, all of the storms since 1979 that should have articles already do, at least in the Atlantic and eastern Pacific. If you're looking for articles to write, check out WP:WPTC/R. Also, the three articles with exclamation points here need articles. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:31, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Danny, you can't decide unilaterally what the writing should be in an article. If you disagree and are reverted, you should talk on the talk page. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:41, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane Ignacio (1979)

Hi, Jeffrey Gu (mind if I call you JG for short). Nice job on the Hurricane Ignacio (1979). However, the article is short and could be merged into the season article. With that said, they are many other storms are the world that can get articles, for suggestions, see WP:WPTC/R. If you want something in 1979 (in case you like the year), Hurricane Andres (1979) might have just enough info for a full-fledged article. A much better idea for an article would be Hurricane Hernan (1996) or Hurricane Doreen (1977). Outside of the East Pacific, I'd suggest looking here. Cheers and happy editing. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

Heads Up

Just for heads up...Only administrators can protect an article, not just regular Wikipedians. So, even if you do want Hurricane Wilma protected, you cannot do it yourself. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 15:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Why can only administrators protect articles? Like the article on Grand Theft Auto V is protected, but is not the very previous day. And another...How can you get rid of protection? How can you become an administrator? Jeffrey Gu (talk)

You can become an administrator by following these instructions, but you'll probably not become an admin. As for protection, you can get rid of it by requesting it here. Admins are extremely trusted users with typically thousands of edits, and months - sometimes even years - of editing. That's why they are trusted with the tools. HurricaneFan25 23:38, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

By the way, join us here. Add in something like "JefferyGu" for the username, #wiki-hurricanes for the channel. Ignore the checkbox. Type in the letters you see in the box. HurricaneFan25 23:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey!

I'm HurricaneFan, another hurricane editor on the wiki - you can contact me here like you can edit an article. Cheers! HurricaneFan25 15:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Come join us!

Hi there Jeffrey Gu, A bunch of us like to hang out and talk about the project in a chatroom. You can join us, if you would like. [1] #wiki-hurricanes is the channel. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC) How can I access it?Jeffrey Gu (talk) 00:00, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

• Use this link: http://webchat.freenode.net/ - Type in a username, and the channel is #wiki-hurricanes. Type in the security code, and don't worry about anything else. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:50, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Please can you come on IRC right now? ----Bruvtakesover (talk!) 03:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Warning

Don's pressure was 997, not 998. Please stop using "shouting" edit summaries. HurricaneFan25 22:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

But I thought the older version of the article is pressure 998. Why is it 997?Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

See this - click it to download the information. It's from the hurricane center. HurricaneFan25 23:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Questions (or comments) on other cyclones and cyclone trivia

Is Carla the 2nd or 3rd strongest storm of the 1961 Atlantic hurricane season? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:24, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane Esther had a lower pressure, but Hurricane Carla had stronger winds. HurricaneFan25 23:30, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Which makes Esther the stronger of the two. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 01:36, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Typhoon Bess is stronger (In terms of pressure) than Hurricane Mitch. Is that right?Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:57, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Does Hurricane Irene have the second lowest pressure for a category 3 hurricane in the Atlantic? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Gallerys

We are not allowed to have gallery of pictures up on articles per the MOS and WP:NOT.Jason Rees (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

WHY?!!!!WHY CAN'T WE FUCKIN' HAVE EM'?MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS NOT CLEAN?Jeffrey Gu (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

• No, its because Wikipedia has a set of guidelines to be followed, and if users do not follow them, they may find themselves blocked from editing. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 16:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Yes and no, we can't have them because they are unencyclopedic. With that said, the images are not very clean (or of high-quality either), so even if they were put in the infobox, they would likely be removed. Also, may I remind you of WP:CIVIL. Please stop; if you continue you may be blocked or even sent here. I suggest you look up our polices. Thank you. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
    • We are not allowed them because we are not an art gallery, also i didn't swear at you or shout at you so please do not swear or shout at me or you will be blocked from editing alltogether.Jason Rees (talk) 16:59, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

This is not a very good rule. Who made this rule? Is it because of safety reasons? I am not angry like Uncle Vernon who likes to yell at Harry, just frustrated why can't we add galleries. Safety reasons? And oh, did my Hurricane Eugene article get reverted? :( Jeffrey Gu (talk) 17:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

• We can discuss this more over IRC (Instant Relay Chat)..Do you mind coming? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 17:19, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict)

The rule is in place because gallery's clutter pages with images and could make the prose difficult to read, so I guess part of it is due to safety reasons. And yes, Hurricane Eugene (2011) got deleted since it was poorly written. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

Is Hurricane Noel (2001) deleted, too? Because I remember in 2009 there's an article on Noel, but not now. And on the history page of Noel does not have any history for it.

Good question, it got converted into a different type of article.YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

Was it a good article?If possible, tell me the location of that article that was converted into another article (For Noel only) Jeffrey Gu (talk) 17:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the redirect location is November 2001 Atlantic Canada storm complex. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 17:56, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

How can we have it back? I miss that article.Jeffrey Gu (talk) 00:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Merged articles

Why was Tropical Storm Ingrid (2007) merged? It was a good article.Jeffrey Gu (talk) 17:36, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

R.I.P article on Tropical storm Ingrid :(

I am not 100% sure, there was no discussion on talk page. It was probably due to lack of notability, but I think it should not have been merged, at least without discussion. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

I redid the Ingrid article. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 01:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

And i have reverted you since not every TC needs an article and it was merged with a discussion on the talkpage.Jason Rees (talk) 01:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

There was no consensus to merge on the talk page. Anyway, I suggest you work on more important articles. Thank you. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Can anyone gimme some advice of which pages I should merge? If can, put it in the column and make a link for it.

Merge:

Jeffrey Gu (talk) 14:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, pages that should be merged are low-quality articles on storms that didn't do much of anything. However, since we already have that criteria, there aren't any more articles left to merge. Everything that's left is here for a reason. Some might be debatable, in which case you'd bring up a discussion on the talk page, but even that has already been done for most of the borderline ones. For the best way to improve Wikipedia, you should focus on improving existing articles, instead of creating new ones or merging. Check out a storm like Tropical Storm Allison (1989). Or, you can make sub-articles for existing retired storms on a particular area. There are still a lot of those articles that can be made, such as Effects of Hurricane Floyd in North Carolina, Effects of Hurricane Ivan in Florida, or Effects of Hurricane Ike in Louisiana. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Please stop adding images to Hurricane Katrina, you just broke 3RR, and may result in losing your editing privileges. Thank you. Please do not focus on merging. Thank you. Merging has been debated here for years, but as Hurricanehink said, a better way to improve Wikipedia's coverage on tropical cyclone's is by improving existing articles. Hurricane Bonnie (1986), Hurricane Danny (1985), Hurricane Bill (2009), Hurricane Erin (1995) or Hurricane Jerry (1989) might be good options here. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

One more thing, why isn't Typhoon Bess (1982) edited recently? Won't anyone help me with it? I'm the only one editing that article now. Do it, or I will merge the article. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 19:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Not many people work on or care about the non-Atlantic basins. Article are usally edited every month or two, sometimes shorter sometimes longer. If you merge it, ill revert since Bess is clearly notable. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 20:02, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Jeffrey, you could always edit Bess and improve it. I'll help if you can't find any sources. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:50, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I am going to create a page on Typhoon Ruby (1988). If possible, find me some sources for that articles. But do not put it here. Put it on the article. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:55, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Do all hurricane articles with notability get merged?Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

No, any storm that is very notable will not be merged. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 00:02, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Ruby

Not a bad job on Ruby! I'm glad to see you working on a notable storm. The main problem with the article (and which no you need to address to make sure it doesn't get deleted) is that it needs sources. Where did you find the information for the article? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

If you're having trouble with sources, here is the 1988 report from the Joint Typhoon Warning Center with a compete section on Ruby. This page from the Hong Kong Observatory indicates there were four injuries in Hong Kong, and here is the same agency's yearly report. Try doing a simple Google search for info on the typhoon. It was reasonably notable, and it wasn't that long ago. Be sure everything in the article is cited, however. When you have a paragraph of information from a certain source, simply put <ref> and </ref> around that link, like this: . Hope that helps! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Won't this cause plagiarism? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 01:02, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Not as long as you re-word or rephrase it and add references to credit where you got the information. HurricaneFan25 01:18, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Problem is, I don't know how to. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 01:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

You just take the information and summarize it. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jeffrey, I have a concern about the references you are using in the article. Wikipedia has a policy about reliable sources, and the sources brainyhistory.com, highbeam.com, and chron.com may not be reliable sources. If you have the time to do so, please read the link above. Thanks! HurricaneFan25 23:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Typhoon Bart

Typhoon Bart

I have created a nice article on Typhoon Bart (1999). If you want to see it, click here. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

More Articles

Click here to see my Typhoon Peggy (1986) article. Feel free to edit it! Jeffrey Gu (talk) 20:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Click here for the Typhoon Lynn (1987 article. Feel free to edit it, too!Jeffrey Gu (talk) 20:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:DOUG TRACK.gif

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Articles

Hey, can you try and improve the existing articles you've made before continuing to make new ones? I'm glad you're giving attention to articles in the western Pacific, but most of the articles you've made are borderline stubs. Take Typhoon Bart (1999) for example. It's a good start, but there's much more information out there. The meteorological history should be expanded to two paragraphs using the JTWC information as well as an independent summary of the storm by Gary Padgett. Also, I'm not sure if you heard, but we have a Project resources page that has tons of links that should help expand any article. Try using Google news for some news articles on the storm. Given how recent it was, and how populated of a region it hit, you should be able to find some good info. Lastly, be sure that when you're sourcing, the reference covers all of the preceding information. In Bart's article, you mention a damage total, but the source provided doesn't mention anything about a damage total.

I'll give you a hand if you want, but I highly suggest you focus on the articles you've made so far before you make any more new ones. I'm glad to see you writing on important storms though! :) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

One more thing. The WPTC agreed that we shouldn't use knots in articles, as the public doesn't use that at all. Instead, convert it to km/h and mph (if it's outside of the NOAA basins). In addition, you shouldn't put in a "lack of retirement" section. I'm curious, why did you decide to put that in in the first place? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Again, please go back and fix up some of your previous articles before making new ones. The 1979 Canada Subtropical Storm article, in particular, probably shouldn't exist. It didn't do anything! 3 inches of rain is nothing (and, btw, that's unsourced). Also, please make sure that when you upload images, you include where you got the image from. Failure to do so could get you blocked from Wikipedia. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

What are the consequences if you, even if you are blocked, still edit from wiki? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 20:07, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Basically, that account is blocked indefinitely and your main account might either be blocked for a period of time, sometimes indefinitely. HurricaneFan25 21:59, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please stop shouting or complaining in edit summaries; this just annoys other editors. If you want to comment, just go to the article's talk page; or if you want to fix something, use a calm edit summary. HurricaneFan25 00:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the image mess. HurricaneFan25 16:59, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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Warning

Please don't warn the regulars, like you did at User talk:Thegreatdr. IMO, there's nothing wrong with it. HurricaneFan25 13:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

But you gave me a warning once, and I reverted your edits for 1989 Atlantic hurricane season and Hurricane Felix (1989). Felix is clearly notable because it is one of the only hurricanes ever to make landfall in Cape Verde. It is also notable for its unusual track. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 14:23, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

You're not a regular yet. You're still rather new. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:33, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Don't all storms with no notability get merged? (Flooding makes a tropical cyclone notable) Jeffrey Gu (talk) 21:14, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

No, not automatically. It depends on the variety of sources in the article, how well-written it is, and what the storm did. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Define "notability"? This subject matter has been a serous controversy in WPTC. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 21:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

The word "notable" is a highly debatable subject on Wikipedia, and saying that a storm was "notable" just because it made landfall in the Cape Verde Islands or caused flooding isn't always the case. If the storm featured a high amount of damage or deaths, then of course it gets an article. However,Felix is a not a "notable" storm, and does not merit an article. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:18, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane Hernan

Hello Jeffrey Gu, I saw that you attempted to re-create Hurricane Hernan (1996) and that is was under threat of being merged, like your other articles. Since I had a desire to create that storm, I took the liberty to "save" that article from being merged. As you can see, I greatly expanded all sections of the article, using information I found here: [2]. Finally, I would like to invite you unto our IRC channel; if you would like to join us on the IRC, go here and log-on with a nickname, and in the channels field, type #wiki-hurricanes. Right now, most of the regular editors are logged-on to the IRC channel and they may be able to give you some tips and advice about editing/creating articles in the Tropical Cyclones Project of Wikipedia. Regards, --12george1 (talk) 02:09, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Right, but my internet is slow and takes a long time to load, so I might not be able to come. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 02:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Prevent merge

Template:Prevent merge has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. HurricaneFan25 20:32, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Prevent merge section

Template:Prevent merge section has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. HurricaneFan25 20:32, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Template

You can NOT make templates like that Jeffrey Gu, that in itself could you get you blocked. Just because you don't like for a storm to get merged, that doesn't mean it isn't going to. And frankly, we're getting tired of correcting all of these mistakes you've been making to Wikipedia. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:03, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Then can you NOT merge anymore storm articles? Let them stay, will you? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 21:06, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

You can, but not that sort of template. People bring up merge discussions, people agree on a merge, and the article is merged. There's nothing you can do about that. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:14, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

No, you can't decide what articles can stay or not. Jeffrey, you really have to read up on Wiki policy. You can't just make a template and say people will be blocked if an article is merged. Please see WP:NOT, WP:NOTABILITY, WP:5P, and so on. Your edits have become borderline disruptive. If you make an article, you should read the bottom of the edit window, where it says:

By clicking the "Save Page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL.

If you create an article and there's no chance for expansion (not to mention it's poorly written), then it will be merged or deleted. Furthermore, please don't create any new templates that suggest that people could be blocked or anything of the matter. Again, that is disruptive. If you continue such behavior, you may be blocked from editing. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I tried to make a ref, and I did it the right way, but it still says its wrong. What shall I do? It says the closing is wrong, even though i put in correctly. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 04:52, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Regarding this - Effects of Hurricane Felix in Nicaragua - you're not allowed to copy information from a copyrighted website. Furthermore, there is no need for an effects sub-article. Jeffrey, you are close to getting yourself blocked. Please refrain from creating new articles. Whenever you add information to Wikipedia, make sure it is your own words and that you cite where you got it from. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

You're an administrator? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 19:11, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and I'm willing to help you with Wikipedia. I'll teach you the ropes. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:12, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Mentorship

Hey, I think we need a fresh start. Would you be interested in some sort of mentoring program? I'd help you walk the ropes to make sure they everything you do is bettering Wikipedia (and won't be deleted/merged right away). --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:00, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Two (1999)

Jeffrey....You have been told over and over again..You CANNOT tell somebody to not merge an article. Tropical Depression Two caused Minimal damage, and no fatalities were reported. The storm is not notable, and will be merged shortly. Your edits have become strictly disruptive, and frankly, everybody in the project is getting frustrated with you. I would take up Hink's offer to become mentored by him, because if not, you'll be banned soon. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Consider the above your last warning before you get blocked. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:42, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Then can I retire from Wikipedia for a while and resume working in a few months? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 22:44, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Jeffery, may I remind you of WP:CIVIL. Here is your last chance to improve before getting blocked for a minimum of 25 hours. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 22:55, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

YE, it is not your job to specify the number of hours a user is blocked. That is entirely up to the admins. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 22:57, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

I gave a rough estimation. I said "a minimum", so it could be more than a day. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:01, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

A plea

Instead of going semi-retired, please let me help you. I'm sure you are frustrated now, but I don't want you to retire. You have a great amount of enthusiasm, which is not easy to find in people. Your writing isn't terrible either. I just feel you need a little help, and I'm happy to provide it. If you let me teach you how to edit properly, then I can guarantee you won't get blocked. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:08, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Look Jeffrey Gu....I'm sorry If I've been sounding mean and rude over the past few days, but your edits have not been constructive to the project. So, instead of becoming retired, you might find it much more helpful to confer with Hurricanehink, as I'm sure he'll make you a better Wikipedian. Cheers. -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:14, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

I am willing to help as well. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:16, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey, please don't take us hard. You aren't that close to being blocked, and we can help you avoid a block. HurricaneFan25 23:44, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, now that we have this settles, I am going to invite you to our IRC channel, #wiki-hurricanes. You've been given instructions on how to get here, and it would really help if you could come? -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:50, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how to chat on that channel. And also, a reminder, my nickname on that page is Cy-Clonetrooper. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 00:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

You had it the first time...Could you come back? -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:27, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Mentorship

User:Jeffrey Gu/Mentor - here is your own dedicated mentor page. There, we'll run over everything and anything to get you to be the great editor I think you have the potential to be. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:55, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

I saw your comment on Orlene, and just so you know, pages that are deleted are erased from public view. That way, they don't show up in Google searches. As for page moves, the history is retained wherever the article ended up. That way, you can trace the article's entire history. Do you want to do any more with the mentorship? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:08, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

No. I just wanted to know. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh, you don't want to do anything else with the mentorship? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:49, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm fine now. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:50, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but you're not getting rid of me that quickly :) Regarding the recent file you uploaded, you need to make sure you include a source. That is just as vital as adding sources to an article. And speaking of which, I really think you should go back and fix up some of your older articles. As you saw with Ida, there is plenty of information out there on most of them. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:03, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I removed that source. Nothing indicates that image was public domain or that it was from the US government. Other countries have satellite images. Regarding Pamela's article, please finish it. First, the source you provided about the retirement says nothing about Pamela being retired and replaced with Peggy. Second, there is no need for a sub-section when there is only one sentence. Third, you need to actually include impact content in the article. Again, compare how you did Typhoon Ida (1958) with how it is now. You have to do some actual research. Go on Google, use Google news, and ask for help. There is plenty of information available on Pamela. I'm glad you chose something that is more notable, however! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane Gert (1993)

As much as I like to see you making good edits now, I think I'd be best to steer clear of Hurricane Gert (1993) right now, because it is a Featured Article candidate, and changing anything may make it fail. -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 15:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane Gil (1989)

How come you made an article on this? It faces the same problems as Ignacio (79), and it could face merging. Everything there is from the National Hurricane Center. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:25, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but Gil was merged. I don't hate you, bit I also nominated Hurricane Orlene (1992) for deletionhere. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:48, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

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Jeffrey, you're causing a problem. You uploaded File:PAMELA DAMAGE TO SCHOOL.GIF as well, but there is no evidence the picture actually is in the public domain. I would recommend staying away from uploading images, as that can get you in trouble much more easily than editing articles. Please write back here if you understand. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I have tagged the file above for "speedy deletion" — you can read why here. The licensing on the website said "for non-commercial, personal, or educational purposes" — you can see their terms of use here. HurricaneFan25 15:12, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Copyright - check out this page. It explains the image upload process and the copyright department rather well. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:29, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful reminder. I am very glad you told me that. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 21:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Hurricane same name

Template:Hurricane same name has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 21:37, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

The big storm

I live in Detroit, and there is a hurricane-like storm here currently. It is causing heavy rain and my street got flooded. I also happen to see that it is causing 40-60 mph winds. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 21:44, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

WP is not the place to report live weather conditions. Sorry. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 22:58, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

It's true! Downtown Detroit was flooded!!! Jeffrey Gu (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't doubt that it was not true, but the thing is Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and we're here to improve it, not to chat about what's going on — that's more appropriate for IRC. HurricaneFan25 00:00, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Page protection

Hey, just so you know, you can't add the page protection template on your page. You have to request it, but just a forewarning, they won't protect your page. No one has vandalized it. Although it is your user page, it isn't yours. It's still a page on Wikipedia, subject to Wikipedia's rules and guidelines. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:Hurricane_same_name deletion comemnt

I left you a reply at the Hurricane same name TfD. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:28, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

What in the world?

When I put a ref next to the "damages" part in Infobox hurricane, it will say expression error: unrecognized word "?". Why is that, and can anyone help meeeeeee on that? Jeffrey Gu (talk) 00:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

You're not supposed to put a ref in the infobox. All you have to do is ref the statement in the article. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Also, I see you're working on an article for Norman 78. That storm should not be formatted as a typical storm article, rather there is another option that focuses on the flooding impact. See November 2000 Hawaii floods. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Norman is fairly notable and caused $300 million in damages. Click here for the information. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 02:03, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I am so excited that Typhoon Ida (1958) is a good article now. Jeffrey Gu 23:32, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Can you please stop adding unsourced information to Hurricane Norman (1978)? Thank you. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

I was trying to expand it. If I don't add it, I have to let someone else add more info. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 23:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Good, but can you please source your information. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 23:25, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Warning Centers

Please try and remember that the JTWC is not and has never been official for the WPAC, the JMA is. It is also worth noting that the JMA use 10-min winds and not 1-min winds. please stop removing what you term "false intensities" as their not. Thankyou.Jason Rees (talk) 03:01, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the helpful reminder. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 03:50, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

Please do not put {{Edit semi-protected}} at the top of the page; instead, please explain (directly below {{Edit semi-protected}}) exactly what you believe should change and why, Thanks.  Chzz  ► 

Articles

Hey, I was wondering, how come you keep adding "lack of retirement" to articles? Where did you learn to do that? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:17, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I just read other articles, and they have via non-retirement, like Hurricane Juliette (2001). Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 20:19, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah, yea, only a handful of articles have that, and they shouldn't. Just so you know, there is no need for that section. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:29, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

With the exception of Hurricane Gordon (1994) and a few other storms, they are not needed. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 20:51, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Please stop removing intensities wihtout a valid reason. Doing so is classified as Vandalism Jason Rees (talk) 17:38, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey, um, I'm not a new one anymore. So why would you greet me? Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 17:39, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

The comment that was posted was semi-automated. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 17:41, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I removed intensities to drag some people into editing that article. If that's what you mean. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 17:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

That is considered vandalism. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 17:46, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay? Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 17:50, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Another thing - You guys better help me chat with this vadalizer. He/she always changes air pressure of storms. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 18:21, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

That is stale, if you sent it to AIV the moppers would decline. HurricaneFan25 18:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:TCstopB

Template:TCstopB has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. HurricaneFan25 18:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Could you guys just come with me and talk with Nicky944? Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 18:53, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

It's obvious he isn't going to edit anymore. His last edit was in July, nearly four months ago. It's no use. HurricaneFan25 18:55, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Is anyone an administrator? If you are, can you semi-protect my user page? It is now under a risk of vandalism. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 22:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I am an admin. However, I don't think it is needed. It was only one anonymous user who did it for a brief amount of time. I also have suspicions that IP address might be yours, based on this edit of him linking to an article you created. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:47, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Err, scratch that, Juliancolton has protected your page. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:48, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Why do you want your page indefinitely protected? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:32, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid of vandalism. I was proposing a protection until Christmas, due to holidays, but I protected it indefinitely so I will not face anymore vandalism. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 01:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

It's nothing to be afraid of. And btw, protection only protects it from anons. Registered users can still vandalize your page ;) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:37, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, even Hink doesn't know about user access levels. :o It's only editable by autoconfirmed users — users who have made more than ten edits to articles and have been registered for four days or longer. HurricaneFan25 01:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I was just oversimplifying it for our new friend. Stalker much? :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Image on your user page

Hey, I removed the image you put on your user page, as it was fair use, not public domain. That means that only certain pages can use such an image, provided there is a proper rationale. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Why does Rockstar Games do this to all GTA games? Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 00:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I nominated Hurricane Andres (2009) to be semi-protected. You guys are invited to request or oppose this in this article's entry. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 00:30, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Jeffrey, we don't oppose or support requests for protection. Andres hasn't been edited since June so why does it need protected? ----Bruvtakesover (talk!) 00:37, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I uh, dunno about that. :P Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 00:39, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Uleki's article

Hey, you need to add sources to confirm the deaths. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

It's almost Christmas

It's nearly Christmas. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 02:14, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer lyrics

 Rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer
 had a very shiny nose. 
 And if you ever saw him, 
 you would even say it glows. 
 All of the other reindeer 
 used to laugh and call him names. 
 They never let poor Rudolph 
 join in any reindeer games. 
 Then one foggy Christmas Eve 
 Santa came to say: 
 "Rudolph with your nose so bright, 
 won't you guide my sleigh tonight?" 
 Then all the reindeer loved him 
 as they shouted out with glee, 
 Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer, 
 you'll go down in history!

Hey, why not make a Christmas background for the wikiproject? Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 02:16, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

It's been reverted before and you should discuss it on its talk page. Also, please read WP:FORUM. HurricaneFan25 — 02:19, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Help needed

Hey, I need to delete Hurricane Odile (1984) because I finished the article in my sandbox and it could not move it. Anyone would help me? Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 23:09, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Err, scratch that. I moved it manually. Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 02:08, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Can you stop adding WP:OR and information about non-retirement in Odile 84? Thank you. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 22:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Warrnings

I would like to know where User:Undescribed vandalised an article.Jason Rees (talk) 20:46, 20 December 2011 (UTC) :He vandalized 2011 Atlantic hurricane season. He changed Irene's 1-min winds to 140 mph and changed the pressure to 955. Here's the information. Jeffrey Gu ^{Happy holidays!} 20:47, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Look again at that diff, he didnt. Also you shouldn't warn people who commit vandalism over two weeks ago or so - er in fact scratch that Do not warn any user about vandalism leave it to more experienced users.Jason Rees (talk) 21:03, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Protection

Jeffrey, please stop requesting protection for articles that have not been vandalized. ––Bruvtakesover (talk!) 15:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Please stop. ––Bruvtakesover (talk!) 20:23, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion

Hey, I have a little suggestion. Instead of writing new articles on old Pacific hurricanes (which aren't that notable and won't ever be watched by many people), have you considered working on more notable articles? Perhaps ones that currently exist but aren't of good quality? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I currently am starting an article on Olivia 1982, which caused $325 in damages, Raymond 1983, a hurricane that posed a threat large enough for preparations, and Polo 1984, which caused some deaths and damage. Are those notable? Jeffrey Gu ^{Happy holidays!} 03:10, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

None of them are all that notable. Olivia is debatable, since it wasn't the storm itself that caused the damage, but rather the combination of a few storms (like October 1983 Southwest United States floods). Why not work on something that currently exists but isn't that good? That would be much more useful to the community :) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:39, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Olivia is notable, but it might be better off as a flood article. Raymond 83 did cause one death, but damage was minor. Polo is not very notable as well, for the same reason. Why don't you go and finish Norman 78? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I got a LOT of storm history info for Raymond 83'. Jeffrey Gu ^{Happy holidays!} 17:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

But did the storm do anything of importance? Just resulting in preparations doesn't warrant enough for an article. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:24, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

It did cause one death durng its path. Jeffrey Gu ^{Happy holidays!} 17:25, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Also, JG, stop pushing your views by vandalizing using your IP. It is obvious it is yours. HurricaneFan25 — 19:40, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk page

See here. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 17:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Notice of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Jeffrey Gu. Thank you. HurricaneFan25 — 23:51, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Bye-Bye

I am retiring. I will miss you guys. :( Jeffrey Gu ^{Happy holidays!} 01:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Aww, there is no need to retire! If you did edit as that IP, you just need to admit it. You were doing well there with some of your articles. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, it doesn't matter that much. We can get beyond that. I just wish you'd stick around a bit and learn the rules. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:02, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I think you could be a good editor but you need to admit to your mistakes and stop requesting that certain articles get protected when they clearly dont need it.Jason Rees (talk) 05:17, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey, that Max guy disabled the likely me IP, and, now I CAN'T EDIT FOR NO REASON!!! Jeffrey Gu ^{Happy holidays!} 15:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Just admit it's you – you won't be in a very deep hole if you say so. HurricaneFan25 — 15:45, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

(ec)Then, how were you able to post this message if you can't edit? And yes, there is a reason see WP:DUCK and WP:DISRUPTIVE. And, that block expires in 10 days. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 15:46, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

The average block messages say that you could still edit your talk page. Jeffrey Gu ^{Happy holidays!} 15:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Forgot about that. Coming from someone who was in in a similar boat a few years ago, there is no need to retire, just come back when your block expires. Myself and other members of WPTC agree that you have potential to become a good editor some day. With that said, I suggest you admit your mistakes you made. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 16:04, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Could any of you people unblock 69.14.44.220? I can't take the block anymoar. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 18:43, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Why don't you just use this account then? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:24, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

He cant - The average block messages say that you can only edit your talk page.Jason Rees (talk) 19:31, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry Jeffrey, but you are going to have to let the block run its course. It's only ten days, so it isn't that long. However, hopefully that will teach you to admit your mistakes and not vandalize Wikipedia using two different accounts. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 19:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Aww, shucks! I have prepared myself for adminship. Well, I guess I have to wait until the block expires. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 21:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Jeffrey Gu, I am going to say this as nice as possible, and don't take it too harshly, but if you were to apply for adminship right now, there is a 0% chance you would make it. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Comon. I've been waiting for many days now! Plus, I just celebrated my 1,000th edit on Wikipedia. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 03:54, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Why are you so fascinated by becoming an admin?.Jason Rees (talk) 03:59, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. Also, if you continue to use the two separate accounts (including your IP address) and act like they are two separate accounts, then that IP could be blocked permanently due to WP:SOCKPUPPETRY. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:26, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Could anyone crop this image. When the block expires, I'm going to create Typhoon Yuri (1991). Thanks! Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 22:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

How did the block of the IP extend to me? Because when I try to edit, it still says I'm an IP. That makes me look stupid, like I'm a jerk or something. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 02:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

That's because that's your IP, and you are autoblocked because your underlying IP is blocked. Remember, you deserve to be blocked for abusing your editing "privileges". HurricaneFan25 — 13:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I know. And could anyone crop the image shown above? Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 16:48, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Does Yuri of 91' deserve an article? I spent the whole last night finding information on that cyclone. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 16:48, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Before asking, please read what Maxim has posted below. HurricaneFan25 — 16:49, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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Sandbox

I think that looks good. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 03:59, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Jeffrey, for convenience, I have moved your sandbox to here. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 04:57, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Regarding your block.

I had blocked your IP for 10 days because of vandalism originating from it, for which you are responsible. Your IP has been hardblocked, i.e. your account was also blocked because of its the underlying IP. This was done intentionally. In addition to the vandalism, the block is also a result of WP:COMPETENCE issues related to page protection; you had been warned multiple times but you persisted in causing disruption both at the noticeboard and article affected. Also, blocked users should not use their talkpage as a sandbox while blocked; if you do that again, I will apply the block on your main account, with talkpage access disabled.

I understand that you're a genuinely good-faith editor (except the vandalism and page-protection issues), and it is not my intention to drive you off the project. The folks at the hurricanes WikiProject are nice, helpful, and seems to be already informally mentoring you. I hope that you take their advice seriously. However, I must warn that if there are still similar issues after the block expires, it will likely result in a new one; see Wikipedia:Competence is required. Maxim_(talk) 16:44, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I was doing that cause' I want to know what will happen when I use multiple accounts. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 17:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Now you know. Maxim_(talk) 17:29, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Then can any admin unblock me now? I am dying to edit my user page. (Plus, I planned myself to be an admin ) Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 19:09, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely not. You abused your IP's editing privileges in a violation of WP:SOCK (an attempt to get a page you requested to be protected protected). You will fail an RfA because of inexperience and what I just said, in addition to not admitting you are wrong. Sorry. HurricaneFan25 — 19:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Just for your information, I doubt i would pass an RFA, so what hope you would have is next to none.Jason Rees (talk) 19:22, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

OKAY. I admit it is mine, but I did that purposely because I want to learn of what will happen if I did do WP:SOCK and WP:DIS, and I want to learn how to warn other users, and learn how to request protection, and I am totally dying to edit, mostly my user page page. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 19:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

If you really feel so, you could just follow the instructions on your block message to post an unblock request. HurricaneFan25 — 19:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Shall I do this on the IP's page or my page? Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 19:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Regarding that block, I think you were responsible for it. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 21:09, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Jeffrey, you only have til January 2nd left on your block. You can think about what you've done. My recommendation - if you want to edit, get some articles together in word pad. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Please don't lecture me. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 02:42, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It wasn't a lecture, just a suggestion. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey. I currently am rewriting Hurricane Orlene (1992) on Microsoft word. This time, the article is longer and is way better than the version before. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 19:26, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Can you describe what sort of impact you've found? That'll determine whether it'll be able to have an article (and whether or not you are wasting your time). --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:49, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I found preparations (Where residents are afraid of the hurricane because of Iniki). Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 20:00, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Is that it? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:05, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, yes. But I also have a sandbox on Hurricane Andres (1979), which killed 2 peeps. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 20:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

You should realize, 2 deaths isn't all that much, particularly for a storm hitting Mexico and for a storm that long ago. Why don't you work on improving existing articles, such as the ones you've made? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I might agree with an article for Andres, however, I'd prefer if you improved existing articles such as Hurricane Calvin (1993). YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 21:11, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, maybe Typhoon Fred of 1991, or Hurricane Joanne (1972) deserves an article. Jeffrey Gu| ^Cyclone 02

09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Idk, but either way, please work on existing articles. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 03:13, 3 January 2012 (UTC)