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Your submission at Articles for creation: Wolf to Man (September 10)
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Nomination of Abyss Rising for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abyss Rising until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Ss112 18:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for bringing up these concerns. I understand that the initial sources may not have been sufficient to establish the notability of Abyss Rising. However, I have added multiple independent, reliable sources that offer substantial coverage of the album:
- Metal.de gives the album a detailed review, noting its position as a concluding chapter in a trilogy based on Dante's Inferno and praising its melodic death metal roots(
- https://www.metal.de/reviews/nightrage-abyss-rising-434516/
- Man of Much Metal offers an in-depth review, scoring the album 89%, and highlighting the combination of melodic and aggressive elements, likening it to early Arch Enemy works
- https://manofmuchmetal.net/nightrage-abyss-rising-album-review/
- Metal Noise discusses the album's catchy choruses and the band's strong use of guitar leads, further confirming the album's impact on the genre
- https://metalnoise.net/2022/02/review-abyss-rising-by-nightrage
- This Day In Metal describes Abyss Rising as a powerful addition to Nightrage’s discography, emphasizing the record’s aggressive, yet melodic nature
- https://thisdayinmetal.com/album-review/album-review-nightrage-abyss-rising/
- Additionally, Abyss Rising is available for streaming on Spotify, which provides further validation of the album's reach and significance:
- https://open.spotify.com/album/3aFGSuLUz66vZSspFjiMeP?si=-NC6PWJ6RkW5QtSGJxgzEQ
- I kindly request that the article be reconsidered for retention. Thank you for your time. Pericles Bogris at Hydra Rise Media (talk) 18:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- You can check also the following:
- Abyss rising reviews
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8RQCER8xVo
- https://therazorsedge.rocks/2022-02-album-review-nightrage-abyss-rising/
- https://manofmuchmetal.net/nightrage-abyss-rising-album-review/
- https://www.nocleansinging.com/2022/03/01/nightrage-abyss-rising/
- https://wonderboxmetal.com/2022/02/14/nightrage-abyss-rising-review/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6dCjE3lgaU
- https://thisdayinmetal.com/album-review/album-review-nightrage-abyss-rising/
- https://nightrage.com/2022/02/16/more-new-reviews-for-abyss-rising/
- https://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/10755
- https://metalnoise.net/2022/02/review-abyss-rising-by-nightrage
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdwHnu684qE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDxxKb6e2mk
- https://welcometothemetal.wordpress.com/2022/02/15/album-review-nightrage-abyss-rising-despotz-records/
- https://www.rocking.gr/reviews/album/Nightrage-Abyss-Rising/10528
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30leW67FSg
- https://mythofrock.gr/nightrage-abyss-rising-2022-despotz-records/
- https://soundcheck.network/posts/nightrage-abyss-rising/
- https://www.metalfan.nl/reviews.php?id=12145
- https://www.gbhbl.com/album-review-abyss-rising-by-nightrage-despotz-records/
- https://www.metal-hammer.de/reviews/nightrage-abyss-rising/
- https://metalfactory.ch/music-reviews/aktuell/lp-cd-reviews/review/nightrage-abyss-rising
- https://www.stormbringer.at/reviews/17869/nightrage-abyss-rising.html
- https://www.metal.de/reviews/nightrage-abyss-rising-434516/
- https://www.metalkingdom.net/review/13365
- https://www.metal1.info/metal-reviews/nightrage-abyss-rising/
- https://powermetal.de/review/review-Nightrage/Abyss_Rising,38837.html
- https://devolutionmagazine.co.uk/2022/02/11/review-nightrage-abyss-rising/
- https://www.ffm-rock.de/reviews-interviews/cd-reviews/48647-nightrage-abyss-rising.html
- https://avenoctum.com/2022/02/14/nightrage-abyss-rising-despotz-records/
- Interviews
- https://www.metal1.info/interviews/nightrage-abyss-rising/?lang=english
- https://www.obnubil.com/blogs/obnubil-magazine/marios-iliopoulos-from-nightrage
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evF9_ykRbLg
- https://www.metal.de/interviews/nightrage-interview-zum-neuen-album-abyss-rising-434801/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qWDsBu5Fyo
- https://welcometothemetal.wordpress.com/2021/12/05/interview-marios-iliopoulos-nightrage-2/
- https://www.ox-fanzine.de/interview/nightrage-9011
- https://mythofrock.gr/nightrage-wake-up-angry/
- https://rockway.gr/posts/nightrage/
- https://www.bleeding4metal.de/index.php/pics/covers/woa02.php?show=interview&id=147 Pericles Bogris at Hydra Rise Media (talk) 18:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Most of those are blogs, some of which are WordPress write-ups by metal fans, which are WP:USERG content. YouTube links are WP:PRIMARY sources, as is the band's website. You can comment with all of this on the nomination discussion. Your talk page is not the place for this link spam. Ss112 18:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are you implying that the album Abyss Rising doesn't exist or that everything about it is fabricated? This isn't a mere write-up or fan creation. Abyss Rising is a legitimate album released by Nightrage on February 18, 2022, via Despotz Records, and it's very much real, with tangible media coverage and reviews to back it up.
- Can you explain me what is the issue here? The additions are for albums of the band by the band members. What is all this ? Pericles Bogris at Hydra Rise Media (talk) 18:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very well aware it's a real album, Pericles Bogris. However, Wikipedia has certain standards of notability, which are laid out at WP:NALBUMS. You're also not hiding the fact that you are part of a promotional firm paid either by the band and their label or management to promote their works online, including obviously at Wikipedia, which is supposed to be written neutrally (see also WP:NPOV), not by people paid off to do it. I'm sure you have an enthusiasm for the music, but Hydra Rise Media should not be utilizing Wikipedia to promote music. Your account has been reported. Ss112 18:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- First, let me clarify that this is not a paid service, and my contributions to Wikipedia are solely out of genuine interest in music and ensuring accurate representation of Abyss Rising on the platform. There’s no hidden agenda or promotional intent behind these edits.
- I understand that Wikipedia has strict guidelines for neutrality and notability, and I’ve done my best to follow those, providing reliable and independent sources to support the album's coverage. The references I’ve included are not promotional in nature, but critical reviews from reputable outlets within the metal music scene.
- I appreciate your vigilance in maintaining Wikipedia’s standards, but I would ask that we keep the discussion focused on improving the article rather than jumping to conclusions about my motives. I’m happy to work with others to ensure the article meets all necessary guidelines. Pericles Bogris at Hydra Rise Media (talk) 18:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very well aware it's a real album, Pericles Bogris. However, Wikipedia has certain standards of notability, which are laid out at WP:NALBUMS. You're also not hiding the fact that you are part of a promotional firm paid either by the band and their label or management to promote their works online, including obviously at Wikipedia, which is supposed to be written neutrally (see also WP:NPOV), not by people paid off to do it. I'm sure you have an enthusiasm for the music, but Hydra Rise Media should not be utilizing Wikipedia to promote music. Your account has been reported. Ss112 18:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Most of those are blogs, some of which are WordPress write-ups by metal fans, which are WP:USERG content. YouTube links are WP:PRIMARY sources, as is the band's website. You can comment with all of this on the nomination discussion. Your talk page is not the place for this link spam. Ss112 18:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- So are you saying that Nightrage is not your client? I've found quite a few social media postings that suggest that they are. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you have any paid relationship with the band, that is paid editing, it does not require specific payment for or instructions to edit. "Ensuring accurate representation" clearly falls within your duties. 331dot (talk) 19:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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Someone else will review your request, but that is frankly very disingenuous. Your company is a music promotion company. If you are editing about clients- regardless of your reason- you are a paid editor, you do not need to be specifically paid to edit or specifically asked to edit, or doing so with the intent to profit from it specifically. 331dot (talk) 07:19, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Wolf to Man (September 10)
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