User talk:Hpv2009
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Speedy deletion nomination of Helvetia Insurance
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A tag has been placed on Helvetia Insurance, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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Status and Advice
[edit]As reviewing administrator, I did not delete it; it is predominantly informative, not advertising. However, there are some major problems:
The article reads as if it were copied from one or possibly several previously published web pages or similar material. This is not permitted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously; and does not accept material copied from other sources unless it is in the public domain, or released to us under a free license (It is, by the way, not necessary for pages to have a notice to be copyright: everything published on the internet or elsewhere is copyright to the owner of that content unless specified otherwise.) If you are the owner, you must explicitly license the rights to the material according to our licensing, using the CC-BY-SA and the GNU licenses, as explained in WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:Donating copyrighted materials; be aware that these licenses give everyone in the world an irrevocable license to reuse and alter the material, even for commercial purposes.
Second, the article did indeed have promotional elements. It repeated the name of the company at every opportunity, It was much more wordy than necessary: this is an encyclopedia, and we say things concisely. (I fixed most of both problems already)
Third, the history section is unclear. Please give the exact sequence of names: when each company was founded what their lines of business were, what the companies were called at each step, and what lines of the business were separated. Am I correct that the overall tendency was to form subsidiaries, and then amalgamate them into finally a comprehensive company; the firm then split, but the fire insurance part merged with an other company to become agains a comprehensive insurer. This needs to be clearer. I could probably figure it out from the published firm history on the web, but you probably can do it easier. The structure is also unclear. Does the holding company consist only of Helvetia Life (Basel) and Helvetia Insurance (St. Gallen)? We normally do not over-emphasisze organization details, but we try to get them right.
Fourth, This needs links to other articles. Not many, but probably for the basic lines of insurance, and the places. (I added the links to the ones in the other language WPs)
Fifth, it needs references. it is highly advisable at Wikipedia to add references at the very first edit. Put some in right now--the pdf history will serve for the details,, but the English WP requires references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. The policy at various WPs is different, the ones that are presently in the French and German WPs are not sufficient here.
I will probably check it next week, in the hope it will be improved enough by then that I won't have to write too much of it myself. DGG ( talk ) 18:42, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello Altered Walter and DGG
[edit]Thank you for you message. First of all I Hpv2009 (employee and social media manager of Helvetia Switzerland at our groups headquarters) can assure you, that, starting with this article on december 2012, I neither had the intention to do some "copy & paste" nor to violate the roles of Wikipedia. The article has not been finished yet due to my personal resource restrictions. What i basically aim to achive is to create several (but very similar) wikipedia articles about our company in five different languages such as German, English, French, Italien and Spanish. Obviously I had problems with the wiki-language, especially with the right hand box on the top. I will update this article as soon as possible and improve my knowledge about creating articles on Wikipedia. Thanks so far for your help. 11:24, 11 January 2013 (CET)
January 2013
[edit]Hello, Hpv2009. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Helvetia Insurance, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.
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