User talk:HkCaGu/Archive 2013 Jan-Jun
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Application of the U.S. Constitution outside states and D.C.
Just FYI, the legal situation on this point is a little bit more complicated than your last edit summary suggests. If you are curious, please see Insular Cases and the links and references there. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 19:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm aware of the complexities but wasn't aware of that article. HkCaGu (talk) 23:24, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Turkish Airlines service to Colombo
I saw you have add TK as a airline serving Colombo saying that the route is bookable. Can you tell me where the flight is bookable since Turkish Airlines's website still doesn't have Colombo in the booking engine (last time I checked). Thanks! Snoozlepet (talk) 06:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Try http://matrix.itasoftware.com/ or just Travelocity. HkCaGu (talk) 07:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Found this on Turkish's website: http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-int/corporate/news/17275/our-new-flights-colombo HkCaGu (talk) 07:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- ok, thanks! Snoozlepet (talk) 17:21, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
DPS and linking to a destination airport
Hi HkCaGu, I do understand (in general terms) where you are coming from re your edit note; "rm LCCT per wp:travel. we link to airport, period/fullstop"
However although KUL and KUL (LCCT) do share the runways and an a common IATA code they are virtually separate airports.
Also I see nothing related to this at Wikipedia:TRAVEL, which I presume is what you are referring to in your edit note. However that is not particularly troubling me. Rather it is the pragmatic issue at hand.
We must always be wary here in understanding that many of the WP policy guidelines or accepted policies cannot ever be absolute, otherwise they would be impossibly burdensome, near impossible to describe and near unusable. In any case I am wondering if you perhaps meant to refer to WikiProject Airports, or it's Talk page, perhaps you could clarify that and indulge me a little by linking to whatever guideline it is you believe applies to this so I can read it for myself as I cannot locate anything there that seems to define this issue.
I cannot see anything specific at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/page_content, on that page it clarifies that "overlinking" does not apply to tables, maybe that is what your were thinking of, but this appears to clarify that it is OK, rather than precluding my (LCCT) append to KUL, please see Wikipedia:OVERLINK#What_generally_should_not_be_linked and the section "Body" note #6. Nor does Wikipedia:OVERLINK#What_generally_should_not_be_linked provide any guide on this, not that I can spot anyhow.
Presumably you are aware of something that I am missing here. Please do understand this is not the more standard Terminal 1, Terminal 2, or International terminal, Domestic terminal situation. They are very distant from each other. The LCCT facility is meant to be a Cargo terminal, but instead is being used for primarily AirAsia domestic and international ops as a dedicated and very separate facility. The only comparison that readily comes to mind is where a civil airport and a military airport share runways. As you are no doubt aware we often treat them as separate entities, even though they may co-operaatively share the physical runway space.
To transfer from KUL to KUL (LCCT) can take up to 1 hour by normal means available to arriving, departing or transiting passengers. KUL has a rail link, KUL (LCCT) does not. This causes enormous confusion, especially with departing passengers who may inadvertently go to KUL, rather than KUL (LCCT) and for those planning to transit in Kuala Lumpur, but not understanding the considerable transit times between the two entirely separate and disconnected facilities. How the Malaysian aviation authorities and airport managers have come to provide this disconnected environment is an odd matter. It is explained at Kuala_Lumpur_International_Airport#Low_Cost_Carrier_Terminal_.28LCCT.29 and although delayed the situation should be rectified by mid-2013. It is a problem that has endured at KUL for several years now.
I urge you to reinstate that edit for the benefit of WP users, especially those who may be travellers researching the airline details provided for flights arriving/departing to Kuala Lumpur from DPS. Hopefully the predicament at KUL will not endure more than another 6 months or so anyhow. I presume you are unaware of the physical layout of KUL and to be frank if I was not aware of it I would likely edit the article as you have, and remove that (LCCT) link. I am not sure if this is worthy of attention at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports as it is not really a very common scenario that I am aware of. What do you think on the merits of that yourself?
If you would rather reinstate it then just do that, otherwise we should probably drag this over there and get some input from the others who have interests in these arcane matters. -- cheers Felix (talk) 10:08, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- It is the same airport, period. Per WP:NOTTRAVEL, Wikipedia is not a travel guide, and therefore cannot be accused of things like "causing confusion". Many airports worldwide have similar problems, especially Australian airports like Sydney Airport and to a lesser degree US airports like LAX and New York-JFK, where 2-3 hour MCTs are not unheard of. It took extensive discussion at WP:AIRPORT to allow destination links and exact formats also underwent extensive discussion, and so was the disambiguation about KL's airports. It is way beyond toleration of the long-time consensus to include terminal information in other airports' listings. The particulars of the KUL LCCT are only encyclopedic to the KUL article. HkCaGu (talk) 10:25, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- And to further explain the spirit of WP:NOTTRAVEL, as I learned from longer-time editors, destination listings are there to illustrate what an airport is like—what airlines fly there and where do they fly to. How to connect in and from those destinations is beyond this scope. HkCaGu (talk) 10:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi HkCaGu, sorry I have taken so long to get back here, been a bit distracted. Your points above are entirely uncontroversial and I have no disagreement with you. Most pertinent are your comments concerning; (not)"causing confusion", and "exact formats", and most importantly "particulars of the KUL LCCT are only encyclopedic to the KUL article". The latter likely being a stand out in defining this matter. I might comment thought that the domestic and international Terminals separation at SYD does not compare with the current KUL issues. I have not been through LAX for a while so I will not comment on that. The KUL (LCCT) issue will go away soon anyhow and that facility will presumably revert to a Cargo role. My point was that it may as well be a different airport the way things are at the moment and that is what motivated my original action. I was not aware of a previous discussion on KULs terminals. If you can point me to it I would be interested but only if the mood takes you. I do like to make myself aware of things I have missed. It saves stumbling about over things that may have been swept off into a corner as dealt with already. Thanks for your comments, they are of course understood and I certainly have no 'disagreement' with any of them. So thanks for your comments here, is was most gracious of you to outline your POV on this. I do often see you in various article histories as we seem to occasionally edit on a few articles in common, so do leave me a note if you ever see me do something you think is a bit odd. Thanks -- Felix (talk) 12:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- WT:WikiProject Airports contains all the history of discussions over the years that led to the current consensus and guidelines, and gives you a feel of what people may think if a question arises. HkCaGu (talk) 15:16, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- You have a good point, I should visit there more often, if you scratch around in the archives you will find us on the same page on a discussion this time last year. -- cheers Felix (talk) 23:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- WT:WikiProject Airports contains all the history of discussions over the years that led to the current consensus and guidelines, and gives you a feel of what people may think if a question arises. HkCaGu (talk) 15:16, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi HkCaGu, sorry I have taken so long to get back here, been a bit distracted. Your points above are entirely uncontroversial and I have no disagreement with you. Most pertinent are your comments concerning; (not)"causing confusion", and "exact formats", and most importantly "particulars of the KUL LCCT are only encyclopedic to the KUL article". The latter likely being a stand out in defining this matter. I might comment thought that the domestic and international Terminals separation at SYD does not compare with the current KUL issues. I have not been through LAX for a while so I will not comment on that. The KUL (LCCT) issue will go away soon anyhow and that facility will presumably revert to a Cargo role. My point was that it may as well be a different airport the way things are at the moment and that is what motivated my original action. I was not aware of a previous discussion on KULs terminals. If you can point me to it I would be interested but only if the mood takes you. I do like to make myself aware of things I have missed. It saves stumbling about over things that may have been swept off into a corner as dealt with already. Thanks for your comments, they are of course understood and I certainly have no 'disagreement' with any of them. So thanks for your comments here, is was most gracious of you to outline your POV on this. I do often see you in various article histories as we seem to occasionally edit on a few articles in common, so do leave me a note if you ever see me do something you think is a bit odd. Thanks -- Felix (talk) 12:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Suspected sock IP:115.147.69.170
Good morning HkCaGu,
I agree.
See this today
and this IP
and the Robert De Niro history!
Cheers! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:23, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
International route
Hello! I noticed that you cancelled my edit. As far as I know, those international routes from Chengdu to Tokyo and Nagoya are using two flight numbers that do not change from the begining to the end, so I think they are two international flight. On the screen of the airport, it would show "Chengdu to XX via XX". I hope to hear from your reply, thanks! AlexHe34 (talk) 03:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- See WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. We only list flights that are "genuinely" direct--same plane and same flight number. Continuing through a domestic hub (for CA, both PEK and PVG) disqualifies them from listing. Exceptions can be made for Air India and Air Canada using an unusual plane for the domestic portion, but in CA's case the Airbuses 319/320/321 are not unique. HkCaGu (talk) 05:15, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explanation. I now understand how the case it is here in English Wikipedia. I have not took the two flight to Japan so I am not sure if the same plane is used in the two parts and I am not going to edit it again. But I consult some website and find out that they might really use the same planes. Take CA 405 as an example, however, Airbus 319 is still used in Shanghai-Nagoya part as it is from Chengdu - Shanghai, but I cannot ensure it is the same A319. Could you please help me if you know how to verify that? By the way, I see you travelled a lot on the earth. That is amazing but I stil recommend Chengdu to you~ Thank you again! AlexHe34 (talk) 11:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- It could be the same plane, or it could be not. At a non-hub, e.g. UA funnels two 747s to HKG from ORD and SFO, one continues to SIN, the continuation is listed. However at a hub, continuation is meaningless: many planes come in, many fly out. AA does a lot of that at DFW. At WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, domestic hub continuations are excluded unless otherwise justified, such as a special type of aircraft. HkCaGu (talk) 08:03, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explanation. I now understand how the case it is here in English Wikipedia. I have not took the two flight to Japan so I am not sure if the same plane is used in the two parts and I am not going to edit it again. But I consult some website and find out that they might really use the same planes. Take CA 405 as an example, however, Airbus 319 is still used in Shanghai-Nagoya part as it is from Chengdu - Shanghai, but I cannot ensure it is the same A319. Could you please help me if you know how to verify that? By the way, I see you travelled a lot on the earth. That is amazing but I stil recommend Chengdu to you~ Thank you again! AlexHe34 (talk) 11:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
please don't add more
please don't change it is is already good — Preceding unsigned comment added by Por Por 2 (talk • contribs) 05:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
AfD nomination: Laurens County Community Theater (#2)
Nomination of Laurens County Community Theater for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laurens County Community Theater (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Am taking another swing at it. KDS4444Talk 20:39, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Can you take a look at this page? One user insisted to change "Mauritius" to "Port Louis" for Air Mauritius. Also, the user also added Guam as a seasonal destination for United and gave flight numbers in the hidden note but the flight operates during the Spring Holiday and summer vacation. I thinking UA only run flights between Guam and Shanghai on a charter basis and cannot be booked/found directly on united.com but rather a travel agency. Thanks! Snoozlepet (talk) 20:44, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Bangladesh airport vandal
I've semi-protected Heydar Aliyev International Airport as well as blocking this latest IP. If he comes back, please let me know on my talk page and I'll range-block the IPs he's using. I'm hesitant to do so at the moment as it's a wide range (180.149.0.0/19, so a total of 8192 IP's would be blocked). —Darkwind (talk) 14:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! HkCaGu (talk) 15:02, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Logan Airport
Thank you for revising my work. You not only cleared it up, but deleted unnecessary information. ConnorLax101 (talk) 00:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
KLM to Manila through Taiwan
KLM is as far as I know flying already more than a half year from Taiwan to Manila (see flights KLM 807 and KLM 808). If you still need sources (I never added sources to wikipedia before so bear with me):
- http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-networker/2012/01/klm-to-go-nonstop-to-taipei.html
- http://www.flightradar24.com/ (type klm 807 or klm 808)
If you are convinced, please revert http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Taiwan_Taoyuan_International_Airport&diff=541272964&oldid=541268516
78.22.168.200 (talk) 16:00, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- Per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, we list passenger services from Point A to Point B, nonstop or same-plane direct, not planes flying from Point A to Point B. It remains that you cannot buy a ticket to fly KLM from TPE to MNL. The TPE-MNL leg is solely for passengers who got on in AMS. Therefore there is no KLM service from TPE to MNL. HkCaGu (talk) 18:04, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reaction, I guess I have no choice than to stick with your version. 78.22.168.200 (talk) 12:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
please stop changing
we are the thai citizen and we are almost up with what you fix our thai airways pages thanks
we witch that you will not change thai airways pages again
thanks
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thai pilot a340 (talk • contribs) 05:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- You do not own any article. HkCaGu (talk) 06:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
China Eastern CMB-MLE
- No such services exists............look it up or you will blocked! 68.119.73.36 (talk) 06:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Huh???? Even China Eastern's official website isn't reliable???? which website is????????? Stop. TK doesn't have rights on CMB-MLE sector (can't be booked on TK's website but may be bookable elsewhere and you don't trust airline's official website???? 68.119.73.36 (talk) 05:49, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Many airlines do not have reliable website for booking--even their own flights--and rely on local travel agents. MU is one of them. HkCaGu (talk) 06:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Then that it a problem! 68.119.73.36 (talk) 06:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Thai Airways International and User:Thai PilotA340
He is restoring San Francisco and Vancouver as destinations (he is probably the known airport vandal). I told him to provide sources but he refuses to listen. I think its time to report him to the admins. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 06:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- He's supposedly from Thailand while those IPs have been from the Philippines. He probably reverted just because the edit was mine. I am too busy to follow up on Thai fleet/destination matters and have stayed away, except to revert the Philippine Airport Vandal. HkCaGu (talk) 06:25, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Re: Por Por 2 not over
Re your message: I'm not surprised. I blocked this new account. If he reappears again, I'll start semi-protecting a few more articles. You can always add to the WP:SPI report for him, too. On a side note, you only need to tag his user page with the sock tag, not the user talk. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Do I make a new case? Or can the archive be un-archived? Looks like more new accounts may pop up. HkCaGu (talk) 03:21, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- You add to the existing case. The form in the middle of WP:SPI is smart. You type in "Por Por 2" and it knows to create a new section on the existing case (it will say so after you click the button). I would skip reporting this new account for now since I've dealt with it, but you can add in the inevitable next account. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- It didn't take long for the other account to show up. See the SPI with the new request. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- You add to the existing case. The form in the middle of WP:SPI is smart. You type in "Por Por 2" and it knows to create a new section on the existing case (it will say so after you click the button). I would skip reporting this new account for now since I've dealt with it, but you can add in the inevitable next account. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Lancaster, CA University of Antelope Valley
Greetings, why the continued deletion of our University from Lancaster, CA ?? Please explain.
68.183.90.192 (talk) 05:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC) Disregard. I've met with SFK2 and have a better understanding now. 68.183.90.192 (talk) 06:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC) HkCaGu, I am doing my best to please you and to add a correct description of UAV. The info is not fluff. It is actually facts that we offer the specified programs, degrees, and certificates. Look at the description for West Coast Baptist College "offering graduate and undergraduate degrees in pastoral studies, evangelism, missions, church ministries, music, Christian education, youth ministry, and secretarial studies." My post is almost identical to this. Why continued editing of my posts? I am only adding "UAV provides undergraduate, graduate, certificate and continuing education programs. University of Antelope Valley delivers its programs through traditional, accelerated and adult learning methodologies." These are facts. 173.196.186.50 (talk) 20:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Look at WCBC, which obviously like UAV are somewhat specialized, not the usual university or liberal arts college offering. So WCBC entry describes programs they offer. What does UAV offer? Merely the types of degrees (and especially methods of delivery) are just the "buns" and not the "beef" of an encyclopedic entry. Having lived here for eight years, I'm not ignorant of what UAV offers; nor am I comprehensively knowledgeable. Not providing the "beef" (what programs?) sounds promotional and "fluff" to me. HkCaGu (talk) 03:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Uav offers so many programs that it would be ridiculous to mention them all on the wiki page. You want the "beef"?! If I post all of the "beef" you'd then complain that I'm spamming the page. Uav is an accredited 4 year University that has way too many programs, degrees, certificates, etc to mention. I have a feeling that you have a personal issue w uav instead. I'm going to add more info and hope that your personal judgements won't reflect on you removing the content. 68.183.90.192 (talk) 04:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- 2 masters, 3 bachelors, 9 associates, some overlapping names, that's not so "many" that will look bloated. However, a complete list would fit UAV's own article, not Lancaster, California. All these programs/certificates can be described in several categories. That's what a description of a school should be in a city's article. HkCaGu (talk) 04:39, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
March 2013
Hello. Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive edits, but one of the edits you made to San Francisco International Airport didn't appear to be constructive and has been removed. There is no direct United Airlines service from San Francisco to Guam listed on their website. Just giving you a heads up! 209.82.56.4 (talk) 16:35, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Flight 201 is direct SFO-HNL-GUM, same aircraft type everyday. Even same aircraft today. 17:24, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Logan Airport State Flags
Hi. I would just like to understand better what you mean when you said that "state flags have too many boundary cities"? No edits will be reverted unless otherwise notified. Thanks.-Connor (ConnorLax101) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConnorLax101 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- State flags are not representative of airports because too many airports serve multistate areas, but this is just one reason. There have been other reasons of rejecting subnational flags. Flags are only allowed if they really help illustrate something. See past WP:AIRPORT talk and the MOS' section on flags. HkCaGu (talk) 03:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Then you need to consistent across the board: aka remove them from the ohare page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RicHicks (talk • contribs) 17:21, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
"Amazing Facts" or "Amazing Discoveries"?
Hi. I note that there appear to be both an organization called "Amazing Discoveries" (amazingdiscoveries.org) and also an organization called "Amazing Facts" (amazingfacts.org). Which of these is allied with the Seventh-day Adventists? And are there any reliable sources we can cite to support the claim (in the Seventh-day Adventist Church article) that one or the other (or maybe both) of these groups is linked to the SDAs? I am not an Adventist and am not really familiar with either of these groups, but I see at the moment that Amazing Facts has a Wikipedia article, while Amazing Discoveries is a redlink. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 05:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- "Amazing Discoveries" is an independent ministry. "Amazing Facts" is under the church umbrella (see this listing in the SDA Yearbook) which is financially not dependent on the local conference. The paragraph is about independent ministries, which Amazing Facts is not. HkCaGu (talk) 05:41, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- So, just to be sure I understand: "Amazing Facts" is a more-or-less official operation of the SDA Church; and "Amazing Discoveries" is run by SDAs but is organizationally / financially independent of the church. Is that correct? — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 06:07, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure of the exact nature of Amazing Facts, but it is not "independent". Amazing Discoveries is independent and not controlled by the church. HkCaGu (talk) 06:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- So, just to be sure I understand: "Amazing Facts" is a more-or-less official operation of the SDA Church; and "Amazing Discoveries" is run by SDAs but is organizationally / financially independent of the church. Is that correct? — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 06:07, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Singapore Airlines flights LAX-Singapore
Hi. As you know, we seem to disagree on the status of this route. I decided to bring it to your talk page, so we don't go into an edit war or anything like that. I just want to confirm what "direct" means. Believe me, these are pretty big talk page discussions. Thanks. -Connor (ConnorLax101 | talk)
- Connor, please read the WP:AIRPORTS page content regarding direct flights. In order for the flight to be direct, it must continue to the final destination with the same flight number and same aircraft. Therefore Singapore Airlines Flight 11 and 12 flies from SIN-NRT-LAX with no change of aircraft at NRT. Please bring this discussion to WT:AIRPORTS. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 02:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Please understand on highly visible articles there are historical reasons for the presence or absence of just about every type of contents, resulting from past discussions and Wikiproject consensus. This will help you avoid being reverted or getting into contentious situations. HkCaGu (talk) 02:57, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Alright. The next question is cargo. Is cargo always direct, even with a stopover? This is because at some airports, they show only direct service. Thanks. -Connor (ConnorLax101 | talk) 21:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- It's probably a question you should bring up to WT:AIRPORTS. We had not discussed much about cargo destinations. I'd rather not see any destinations listed and just see carriers listed. Cargo is a Point A to Point B thing and non-humans don't care how they get there, with what delays, and flight numbers. But it's a subject I'd rather not get into too deeply. HkCaGu (talk) 04:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Alright. The next question is cargo. Is cargo always direct, even with a stopover? This is because at some airports, they show only direct service. Thanks. -Connor (ConnorLax101 | talk) 21:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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Facebook is not a reliable source!!!!!! Wikipedia ain't a social network! Better to get it off from the airlines official website. 166.205.55.33 (talk) 15:56, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- So are blogs not reliable sources either? Not all blogs are the same, neither are all Facebook pages. Blogs and Facebook entries are overwhelmingly personal in nature, but that does not preclude them from being official sources. HkCaGu (talk) 16:54, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Cargo at WT:AIRPORT
Re "well said": thanks, though you may notice that what I said was at least partially lifted from your comments elsewhere. Thanks for helping to clarify my thoughts. :) —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 05:07, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Minneapolis-Saint Paul international Airport
My apologies. I'm just trying to make this page helpful for all who look at it. I thought adding the "light rail" info would be beneficial to users. Is there a reason why this would be called "vandalism"? Maybe you could add it back to the page correctly if you wouldn't mind.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.240.147 (talk) 00:54, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I've already notified you that there is a standard for airport article format, e.g. no italics. Wikipedia works on many other principles including consensus of editors, formats, styles, etc. A rail line table belongs to a rail station's article and not an airport's article. And you really need to use the preview button. There is no reason you have to perform that many edits. And you need to sign your talk messages. Please go to the "Help" page to learn the skills needed to avoid annoying other editors. HkCaGu (talk) 12:12, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I honestly don't know what makes you so special in deciding what gets to stay or go on a certain page. ANYBODY can make edits to the pages as long as it's constructive to the page according to Wikipedia's home page. Having a light rail table is very constructive to the page because it serves the airport. Stop undoing my edits when it is relevant to the page. On the italics thing well my mistake. Just because you don't like the edits or additions doesn't give you the right to undo them. You are the only one that I know of that has issues with my edits or additions. As you said once before you do not own this page so take your own advice and let the people that want to make additions or edits do so without fearing you will undo them and I don't appreciate you threatening to block me on this page. Again Wikipedia is for everybody to edit within reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.240.147 (talk) 00:30, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone can edit but it doesn't mean anyone should. Rail line infobox belongs to the rail line's article. You can't even find the infobox in each rail station's article! So why should it be in the airport's article? Project consistency and appearance is crucial across Wikipedia. For every item that is different from normally accepted format, it is your burden to justify each item's existence and bring to other editors' consensus through an article's talk page and project talk pages. HkCaGu (talk) 01:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- DONE! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.81.190.25 (talk) 11:00, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Who are you? The Wikipedia police? I did nothing to vandalize this page and the next time you threaten me I will be forced to take action against YOU! I don't know who the hell you think you are making threats against people. Reading these previous posts on your talk page leads me to believe that you think your stuff smells sweeter than others. Why don't you stop trolling all over Wikipedia looking for things that you think is vandalism and maybe get a life. Let other people enjoy Wikipedia without fearing that you will block them if they make changes or edits that don't please you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.240.147 (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- You seem to be getting in front of your horse by test-editing, reverting and screaming out loud before you even know enough about what Wikipedia is or is not. Learners are welcome, but disrupters are not. I'm not even an admin. I can report you and you can report me. But I'm telling you that your edit history won't help you. HkCaGu (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Who are you? The Wikipedia police? I did nothing to vandalize this page and the next time you threaten me I will be forced to take action against YOU! I don't know who the hell you think you are making threats against people. Reading these previous posts on your talk page leads me to believe that you think your stuff smells sweeter than others. Why don't you stop trolling all over Wikipedia looking for things that you think is vandalism and maybe get a life. Let other people enjoy Wikipedia without fearing that you will block them if they make changes or edits that don't please you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.240.147 (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- DONE! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.81.190.25 (talk) 11:00, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone can edit but it doesn't mean anyone should. Rail line infobox belongs to the rail line's article. You can't even find the infobox in each rail station's article! So why should it be in the airport's article? Project consistency and appearance is crucial across Wikipedia. For every item that is different from normally accepted format, it is your burden to justify each item's existence and bring to other editors' consensus through an article's talk page and project talk pages. HkCaGu (talk) 01:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- I honestly don't know what makes you so special in deciding what gets to stay or go on a certain page. ANYBODY can make edits to the pages as long as it's constructive to the page according to Wikipedia's home page. Having a light rail table is very constructive to the page because it serves the airport. Stop undoing my edits when it is relevant to the page. On the italics thing well my mistake. Just because you don't like the edits or additions doesn't give you the right to undo them. You are the only one that I know of that has issues with my edits or additions. As you said once before you do not own this page so take your own advice and let the people that want to make additions or edits do so without fearing you will undo them and I don't appreciate you threatening to block me on this page. Again Wikipedia is for everybody to edit within reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.240.147 (talk) 00:30, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Recap of warnings
Ref: Minneapolis–Saint Paul International Airport: Revision history
Many of the user warnings in Wikipedia have four levels. Level 1 is assuming good faith. Level 2 is neutral. Level 3 is assuming bad faith. You had already done something wrong on April 6, and it was reverted. Then I reverted your edits on April 9 with explanation in the edit summary. You reverted me on April 11 without explanation, and I reverted your italicization with a pointer to WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT in both the edit summary and a message on your talk page. That can be considered a Level 2 (neutral). At this point, even if you didn't know about edit summaries, which any new editor should but many do not, you had been notified. So when you did about 30 edits just to add the rail infobox on April 12, I just had to call it disruptive vandalism (especially from an unregistered/IP editor) and gave you a Level 3. Therefore yesterday's revert earned you a Level 4. HkCaGu (talk) 23:15, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm watching him closely. I can't report him because he hasn't edited in two days, so vandalism claims would be stale. Thanks. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 15:54, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I would appreciate if the two of you would just let me be and stop posting threats or as you call it hounding me. I made an error on editing. I did not know you could preview before you save hence all the saves. This does not constitute vandalism. I now know this. I have taken steps to better my editing so once again please stop the hounding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.156.205 (talk) 19:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Dude, we let it go. We all make mistakes and we all move on. Good luck on the editing. Cheers! World Traveller101 21:37, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- I would appreciate if the two of you would just let me be and stop posting threats or as you call it hounding me. I made an error on editing. I did not know you could preview before you save hence all the saves. This does not constitute vandalism. I now know this. I have taken steps to better my editing so once again please stop the hounding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.156.205 (talk) 19:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Orlando International Airport
The terminals/airsides for the airlines and destinations section is screwed up as per http://www.orlandoairports.net/ops/airlines.htm. For example, people keep changing the terminal or airside for Aer Lingus as the airline uses Terminal B, Airside 1 as per the source and other airlines. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 06:18, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Undoing one of my contributions.
Hello, I'm HkCaGu. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Lancaster, California because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! HkCaGu (talk) 04:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
This is crazy, the photo shown in the article says that it is showing Lancaster CA, but IT IS NOT. The town shown is NOT Lancaster California, I was born there and our family lived there since 1884, so I should know what is correct and what not.
The photo shows a hill next to the town; there is NO hill next to the town of Lancaster CA
Earl Specht84.107.248.57 (talk) 18:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- OK now you tell me how this photo is not showing the bulk of Lancaster:
HkCaGu (talk) 03:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Yangon International Airport
Since this article is semi-protected, Lao Airlines should be removed because there is no firm date provided for that even though it is sourced. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:30, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done! HkCaGu (talk) 03:34, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
India Statistic Vandal
I got the ones in that list for 3 months. If there are any more let me know. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 18:59, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
New SFO international stats
Hi, HkCaGu. Do you have any suggestions as to how we get the 6th-10th busiest routes, since we only have five, and commonly, ther is 10, (ex. it would be Taipei, Vancouver, Paris, Syandey, and Amsterdam most likely) what would be a good source or a good place to find it at? Thanks. Chat CenterWorldTraveller101Wikipedia Business 01:51, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I've searched the DOT website and that's all I could find. The only other source I can imagine is SFO authority itself. HkCaGu (talk) 03:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Alright. I will give it a whirl myself and see what I can come back with, because I personally would like to see a top 10 and not just a top 5, but I'll find the source for #'s 6-10. Thanks. Oops?WorldTraveller101Follow my work? 13:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
San Francisco International Airport Source
Please see the talk page about removal of sources. --JetBlast (talk) 09:10, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
He has been blocked for a week. I notice that you revert edits by him quite often and he has been blocked for a week, which is real generous, considering his edits. I'm going to you because you have given him several warnings on his talk page. Anyway, if you want to further discuss, please go to my talk page, as major discussion will go there. Thanks. World Traveller101 21:57, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Delta's Beijing to Atlanta flight
A user has added Atlanta as a Delta destinaton at the Beijing Airport article. The flight is not direct as DL128 requires a change of plane from a 767 to a 757 at Seattle. Since the article is semi-protected, can you remove it. Thanks! There is also a hidden note made for it aleady. 123.117.50.72 (talk) 14:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- I already removed it. The user has been blocked for 1 week. If it is a different user, me or HkCaGu or anyone else will revert it. Thanks. World Traveller101 21:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Apologies
I saw the Indian Statistic Vandal was reverted by you. However, I was unaware that the IP's belonged to him/her, so I just added a [citation needed] tag. But thanks for reverting it and I hadn't seen you edit in a bit. Good to see you again. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 23:50, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- My apology for not being able to give you advices sooner...still recovering after returning from the trip during which I had limited online time. If you see some 61.17 or 121.246 IP doing "random" statistical changes especially on airports, it's him/her. HkCaGu (talk) 09:21, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- He did more statistic editing at London Heathrow Airport (which you reverted), so I reported him to AIV. Not sure if it'll completely stop, but the more confirmed/suspected IP's that are blocked, the more it stops...true? Anyway, good luck on future edits. Sincerely, WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 14:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
India Stat Vandal (Blocked)
An IP of the India stat vandal (61.17.226.98) has been blocked for three days. All of these belong to TATA Communications, India, and apparently, there is some effort at the place trying to crack down on who is vandalizing Wikipedia when. Just an FYI. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 17:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Albert Pyun is up to it again
For awhile, he stopped. But now he's going full-bore into spamming Albert Pyun with endless self promotions about himself and his movies. Readyforanderson (talk) 18:52, 22 May 2013 (UTC)Readyforanderson
Talkback
Message added 21:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
See the same section you edited. Thanks for the input. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 21:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Albert Pyun
Can I just delete an edit from someone on that page (that person being Albert Pyun under various socks) who simply refuses to proofread their entries or abide by Wiki standards? I mean this has been going on with him for YEARS. Readyforanderson (talk) 20:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Readyforanderson
- Not that I have time to go over everything, but I wouldn't mind if you do so. I can't see why two registered editors can't out-3RR an IP, but the best way would be to get him banned. Then the work would be much easier and more justified. HkCaGu (talk) 20:20, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- I think the article is not excessively long and about right. My latest strategy is to judge by paragraph. HkCaGu (talk) 20:26, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- The page is now protected. How would you go about getting Pyun banned if he's using multiple IP's? Readyforanderson (talk) 21:16, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Readyforanderson
TUIfly operated by Arkefly flights at HAM
Please stop deleting the flights from TUIfly op by Arkefly at Hamburg Airport-article. These flights are bookable at tui.com - why do you ever delete this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.224.25.212 (talk) 09:01, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
http://www.airliners.de/tui-mit-langstrecken-ab-hamburg/29240 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.224.25.212 (talk) 09:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, an exact start date is required for any route to be listed. If you cannot provide a date (not a month), it will be removed. HkCaGu (talk) 09:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Gay airline editor (talk) 05:55, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- When and if it's final, we can revert that and add the date of change. HkCaGu (talk) 07:09, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
viracopos airport
Why did you revert the Etihad cargo edit and why did you call air cargo news a bad source? 139.190.138.27 (talk) 15:30, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- Please see WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT for strict requirements for cargo listings. HkCaGu (talk) 15:43, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Philippine Airport Vandal
Hi an IP in the 120.28.xxx range geolocating to the same company in the Phillippines. They vandalized John F. Kennedy International Airport. Can you kerp an eye out? Thanks. Also, JFK Airport is getting a GA assessment currently. Happy edits. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 00:49, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
IP is 120.28.148.164, just as an FYI. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 01:31, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
As if we didn't know it wouldn't happen:
Now that the Albert Pyun page is no longer protected, Pyun has returned spamming the page with non-encyclopedic, self-promotional fluff. Readyforanderson (talk) 23:18, 30 June 2013 (UTC)Readyforanderson
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