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This page contains discussions dated during the month of October 2012 from User talk:Hersfold. Please direct all current discussions there. Thank you.


Man those are some big ears

I honestly think my own comment on the case page has a suggestion (idea) that's better than yours, at this point. Since you did ask. Cheers - 76Strat String da Broke da (talk) 05:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

And a good idea that is, certainly better than any of the ones I posted in my statement (which admittedly were Reductio ad absurdum examples, but that doesn't diminish from your suggestion any). Unfortunately it still leaves a lot of loopholes and room for personal interpretations; for example, if I were to say "76Strat is a lying bastard", that would almost certainly be uncivil and merit a block. But, if I were to say that same thing and support it with a diff where you lied to me and some documentation that you had been born out of wedlock (leaving issues of WP:OUTING aside for the purposes of demonstration), those references would arguably satisfy the requirements of BLP, and thus be acceptable - even though the comment is no less rude. It's certainly an excellent starting point, but could use some fine-tuning. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 16:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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User:Adityasaxena.corp's unblock request

Hi Hersfold. Please could you comment on the unblock request at User talk:Adityasaxena.corp? I'm willling to unblock him/them providing that they abide by a sort of topic/interaction ban, much as you suggested in your decline of an earlier unblock. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 10:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Given that you're probably not going to be online for a while, and since the proposed conditions are pretty much the same as those you suggested, I'm assuming you'll have no problems with this and have unblocked him. If you object, please let me know. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 12:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, just saw this, but I'm fine with the user having been unblocked. I may look into that new account that's mentioned on his talk page, though. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:20, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
...Aaand yeah, we're being lied to. User:TheVforVendetta is  Confirmed as a sock of User:Adityasaxena.corp. I'm going to re-block them now. Hersfold (t/a/c) 03:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Facepalm Well, so much for that. If you look up "gullible" in the dictionary, I believe you'll find a picture of my face there... Yunshui 雲‍水 07:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hey, you're not the only one. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 17:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Checkuser

To the extent that I am aware, checkuser appointments only occur once a year and we have had 4 checkusers recently leave. That is making sockpuppet investigations increasingly difficult. Dennis Brown is very active in the SPI process and I feel like the project would benefit if he was a checkuser. Is there any way that arbcom can appoint Dennis Brown as a checkuser (should he accept) considering the situation we are in? I didn't know the exact process so I thought I'd bring it here. Thanks! Ryan Vesey 00:37, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll raise the issue with the Committee - we can technically hold appointments whenever there's a need. With the ArbCom elections coming up in a couple months, there may be some reluctance towards doing so (to avoid overwhelming people with votes and vote-like discussions) but we'll see. It's unlikely that we'd consider appointing one user without doing a full call for nominations, though. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:19, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
I second Ryan's request. Dennis having CU tools would be a major gain to the community. --Jethro B 03:41, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
This isn't an official statement, of course, but from the comments on the mailing list so far it sounds as though we're likely going to wait until after the ArbCom elections for the next round of appointments. This way the new arbitrators get input into the appointments, and we avoid the somewhat pointless scenario where we appoint a checkuser that goes on to get elected to the Committee a few weeks later. Hersfold (t/a/c) 04:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

For the record, I don't think the problem is a lack of checkusers, but a lack of clerks and general admin work at WP:SPI. If you take a look at the case list, there are very few actually waiting for action from someone with the bit, but plenty of them that need spading and management. We need more clerks; but we have so few it's actually difficult to train more. — Coren (talk) 00:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

THANK you!

Not being able to say this is the first time I regret not being on the committee anymore! Thank you for saying it. — Coren (talk) 00:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. :-) Hersfold (t/a/c) 09:51, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

You were mentioned at...

It seems someone has forgotten to inform you that you are under discussion here, regarding a proposal to end your membership of arbcom. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Presumably, Hersfold monitors the ArbCom case cage on the current Civility Enforcement request for clarification.... Kiefer.Wolfowitz 08:56, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I'll keep an eye on it, but I don't think it merits a response as of now. FWIW, I'm very likely not going to run for another term when my current one expires anyway - we get too much crap for doing what we think is right as it is, even from each other, and I'm quite tired of it. The only reason I'm sitting this one out is because I owe that much to those who voted for me, and I've no real need to resign as I did last time. I just don't want to continue to be a punching bag in what's supposed to be my spare time. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Actually, I will add a note to say that I am open to recall, but I won't comment directly on the proposal itself. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:38, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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Go on the Chels!

A Chelsea fan in Florida? That's got to be a rarity. It's been a long time since I followed the game, but they're my local team; I used to go to Stamford Bridge with my dad and granddad, and saw them win the 1997 FA Cup Final. — Hex (❝?!❞) 14:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

My dad's the really big fan, but I keep up on it every now and then. I did get to see them play in Stamford Bridge once, and that was quite the experience (nowhere in any American sport will you ever be able to experience hearing the entire stadium insult the referee in unison). Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 20:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

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