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Your submission at Articles for creation: Lederer (September 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please dial back the promotionality, your job is to describe the subject, not to 'sell' it.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Lederer and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, HalogenCH! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @DoubleGrazing. Thank you for your comment and feedback. I have revised the text based on your suggestion. I hope the updated version now conveys a more neutral and informative tone. HalogenCH (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2024

Hello HalogenCH. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:Lederer, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:HalogenCH. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=HalogenCH|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I completely do not understand your accusations. No one has paid me for this article, nor will they. I am a watch collector and while looking for information about the Lederer brand I noticed that it is not on wikipedia, although other brands like Greubel Forsey, Richard Mille, F.P Journe, Laurent Ferrier, Kari Voutilinen are on wikipedia, so I decided to create such a page for the first time. I used the information I found on the Internet - please see the references. To edit my text I used GPT chat, also when changing the tonneau more encyclopedic, because indeed, the earlier one looked like an advertisement. If you have any comments on the revised text then please help me edit it. HalogenCH (talk) 18:50, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It wasn't an accusation, it was an enquiry. (The wording is based on a standard template, not one I wrote.) If you are not engaged in paid editing, you simply need to state that, which you now have.

As you mention Chat GPT, you may wish to read this essay on their use in the Wikipedia context: WP:LLM. Note in particular the point about risk of copyright violations.

Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]