User talk:Guinness323
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Role-playing pioneers
[edit](See "Role-playing pioneers" archive for discussions about Gary Gygax, Jim Roslof, Frank Mentzer, Donald Kaye, Darlene Pekul, Stephen R. Marsh, David "Diesel" LaForce, Rick Loomis, Jim Holloway, Lenard Lakofka, Ford Ivey, Robin Wood, Dave Nalle, Richard Halliwell, Kim Eastland, Teeuwynn Woodruff, Martin McKenna, Keith Poulter, Steve Perrin, Ian Marsh, Teeuwynn Woodruff, Bryan Ansell)
Other RPG bios
[edit]If you have the inkling to help out with any more bios in draft space, I have a couple of dozen or so needing anywhere from a little to a lot of TLC: User:BOZ/Draft pages. BOZ (talk) 23:31, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- My suggestion would be to start with Adam Jury or Chris Seeman - both were deleted as a result of AFD, and while I have been able to add a good source to both, they need just a little more before I would consider petitioning the community to have them fully restored. BOZ (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- If those don't excite you, I do know that you have been interested before in people from the early days of TSR. Maybe you would like to work on some articles I started recently, like Jeff Perren, Dave Megarry, or Eric Shook? :) BOZ (talk) 17:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Jennell Jaquays
[edit]Oh no, it looks like Jennell Jaquays has died. :( BOZ (talk) 13:03, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:( Guinness323 (talk) 16:19, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sure a better source will come along but the article is in better shape than a lot of our gaming-related BLPs. BOZ (talk) 17:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
James Herbert Brennan
[edit]I missed this one, but apparently James Herbert Brennan died a few weeks ago. BOZ (talk) 12:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Horvath book on bios
[edit]Brilliant work adding content from Monsters, Aliens, and Holes in the Ground to Keith Parkinson, Kevin Long, Tim Bradstreet, Jeff Laubenstein, and especially all the work you did on Janet Aulisio. :) If you spot anything useable for any artists or designers that don't have articles let me know, they may have drafts and/or deleted articles, or they may need to have an article created. :) Laubenstein was once such an article that had been deleted until I restored it! BOZ (talk) 04:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Bill Spytma and Jason Eckhardt (the artist, not the composer). There may be more.Guinness323 (talk) 06:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- OK cool, keep me posted. :) BOZ (talk) 07:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Bill Spytma and Jason Eckhardt (the artist, not the composer). There may be more.Guinness323 (talk) 06:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Greg Hildebrandt
[edit]I'm always wary of accepting Facebook posts for this sort of thing, but it looks like the other half of the Brothers Hildebrandt has died. BOZ (talk) 12:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Dragon magazine reviews
[edit]K-k-k-eeping up with this, here is the next letter! A little longer than J, but L will be longer, and M will be a lot longer, but for right now here we are: Kafer Dawn (145), Kafer Sourcebook (145), The Kathol Rift (234), Kellar's Keep (168), KFZ.1 Kubelwagen: Volkswagen Type 82 (29), Killer Crosshairs (231), Kindred of the East (248), The Kingdoms of Kalamar (236), King of Chicago (214), Kingsport: The City in the Mists (186), KViSR Rocks! (133) BOZ (talk) 13:13, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- Nice. :) I'll get to L in a l-l-little while. :) BOZ (talk) 20:41, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Help!
[edit]You did get a little more for the Shadowdale one, but do you see anything more for Tantras (module) and Waterdeep (module)? BOZ (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Haven't found anything for either of them yet. Guinness323 (talk) 06:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, thanks for checking. BOZ (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Haven't found anything for either of them yet. Guinness323 (talk) 06:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Also, more game articles with source tags added, all from notable publishers, if you have anything more for any of them:
Maloney's Inheritance,Tokyo Express: The Guadalcanal Naval Campaign – 1942, Desert Falcons (board game). BOZ (talk) 06:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC) - Unfortunately nothing for Desert Eagles. Guinness323 (talk) 06:26, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Did anything come up as Desert Falcons though? BOZ (talk) 23:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Haha, good catch. No, nothing for Desert Falcons. Darn, now you've got me thinking, now I have to go and recheck... Guinness323 (talk) 01:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, but I did catch you writing "Tokyo Rose" when you edited "Tokyo Express". :) BOZ (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Haha, I actually did that serveral times (it was late at night), but I thought I'd caught them all. BTW, double-checked and I did search for Desert Falcons, and couldn't find anything other than a couple of mentions in passing and some game ads. Guinness323 (talk) 05:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks again for checking. :) BOZ (talk) 05:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Haha, I actually did that serveral times (it was late at night), but I thought I'd caught them all. BTW, double-checked and I did search for Desert Falcons, and couldn't find anything other than a couple of mentions in passing and some game ads. Guinness323 (talk) 05:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, but I did catch you writing "Tokyo Rose" when you edited "Tokyo Express". :) BOZ (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Haha, good catch. No, nothing for Desert Falcons. Darn, now you've got me thinking, now I have to go and recheck... Guinness323 (talk) 01:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Did anything come up as Desert Falcons though? BOZ (talk) 23:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I was double checking your archiving of the "A better year" thread, and I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything there. If you have anything more to add to any of these, that would be awesome.
- You were impressive as always at adding to the many new articles I started while going through Imagine magazine, and from what I could see the only two that you didn't edit were The President (board game) and
Middle-earth Role Playing Combat Screen- did anything come up for either of those?- Nothing for The President -- it looks like a small British company that produced one game then disappeared before the game came to the attention of North American reviewers. I added a couple of details to MERP Playing Combat Screen. Guinness323 (talk) 15:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- I had also restored several articles back in 2021, do you have anything more to add to Dungeon Squad,
Elric!, or Blue Devil Games?- Nothing for Blue Devil Games. Guinness323 (talk) 18:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking; how about Dungeon Squad? BOZ (talk) 12:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Still looking, but so far, precious little about Dungeon Squad outside of fan forums.Guinness323 (talk) 15:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK, well much appreciated and thanks for looking. :) BOZ (talk) 18:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Still looking, but so far, precious little about Dungeon Squad outside of fan forums.Guinness323 (talk) 15:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking; how about Dungeon Squad? BOZ (talk) 12:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing for Blue Devil Games. Guinness323 (talk) 18:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- While going through issue #2 of Games International, I started several new ones and you did add something to most of them, and I remember you said you found nothing else for
Man the Lifeboat, but do you see anything more forSeaside Frolics,Games to Play, orStrike Force: Shantipole?- Nothing for Games to Play.
- Do you see anything more for the Dragonlance novels The Lake of Death, Sacred Fire (novel), and Wizards' Conclave?
- Unfortunately the later Dragonlance novels received very little critical notice -- there were just too many of them. Wasn't able to find anything about the above three, even in fan forums. Guinness323 (talk) 05:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nary a sniff of reviews or commentary for any of these three titles. :( Guinness323 (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, and thanks for double checking those. :) BOZ (talk) 19:16, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nary a sniff of reviews or commentary for any of these three titles. :( Guinness323 (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the later Dragonlance novels received very little critical notice -- there were just too many of them. Wasn't able to find anything about the above three, even in fan forums. Guinness323 (talk) 05:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Revisiting one final thing from last year: The three Star Trek games and one supplement from Last Unicorn Games were all merged into a series article (you did restore and rebuild the TNG article). I agree that a series article is a good thing, but I am wondering if there is enough potential in having separate topics for Star Trek Role Playing Game* [1], Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Role Playing Game [2], or Star Trek: The Next Generation Narrator's Toolkit* [3] that any of those should have separate pages apart from the series page? BOZ (talk) 00:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- I am feeling a bit discombobulated. I thought for sure there would be some sources for the DS9 RPG, but so far nothing other than some fan sites. Will next try the other two. Guinness323 (talk) 20:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- You're right, that is a bit surprising. I'm sure there's something somewhere, hopefully it will turn up one day. BOZ (talk) 23:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am feeling a bit discombobulated. I thought for sure there would be some sources for the DS9 RPG, but so far nothing other than some fan sites. Will next try the other two. Guinness323 (talk) 20:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Do you see anything more for BASH! (role-playing game)? BOZ (talk) 08:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- I might have some sources, yes. Where is the AfD debate page?Guinness323 (talk) 17:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- That one's just a PROD, so it's a matter of adding the sources and removing the deletion template. :) BOZ (talk) 19:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Well, duhhh! Time for new glasses... Guinness323 (talk) 21:15, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- That one's just a PROD, so it's a matter of adding the sources and removing the deletion template. :) BOZ (talk) 19:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- A couple that actually are at AFD: Allegiance: War of Factions and
Talisman City. BOZ (talk) 06:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC) - Ed Healy was just PRODded with the PROD removed, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that one end up at AFD. BOZ (talk) 06:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- I've improved Healy a lot so I think he is safe, but do you see anything for
George Vasilakoswhich was also PRODded? BOZ (talk) 16:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC) - How about for Michael Pierre Price? BOZ (talk) 08:12, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- One interview seems to confirm what he did at TSR (which doesn't seem to be a lot -- he himself says he was mainly used as a playtester), and his list of single author writing credits is limited to "They've Invaded Pleasantville". He was also the co-author of two Gamma World adventures. However, the interview was published on a Wordpress account, which I believe is considered non-RS? Guinness323 (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, not much there. Oh well, too bad for that. BOZ (talk) 23:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- One interview seems to confirm what he did at TSR (which doesn't seem to be a lot -- he himself says he was mainly used as a playtester), and his list of single author writing credits is limited to "They've Invaded Pleasantville". He was also the co-author of two Gamma World adventures. However, the interview was published on a Wordpress account, which I believe is considered non-RS? Guinness323 (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- How about for
Bez Shahriari (Game Designer)? BOZ (talk) 12:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)- @BOZ Found an interview, but I think coverage in two books is already good enough. Guinness323 (talk) 20:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, and thanks. :) The PROD has already been removed, but we will see if that sticks. BOZ (talk) 20:56, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @BOZ Found an interview, but I think coverage in two books is already good enough. Guinness323 (talk) 20:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Dragon Quest (TSR)was attempted, but they had no sources. BOZ (talk) 07:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC)- How about
Malifaux? BOZ (talk) 12:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)- Worked on it and dePRODed. Guinness323 (talk) 22:12, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- How about for Dan Gelber (game designer)? BOZ (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- All I've been able to find is that he played Diplomacy with Costikyan's crowd (hence how they met), and he also was part of the design team for SPI's megamonster The Campaign for North Africa. (The only source for the former is mentions in various Dippyzines. The only source for the latter is his name in the design credits.). But nothing about Gelber himself. Guinness323 (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for checking. Also, I don't know if you heard, but
James M. Wardpassed away recently. BOZ (talk) 17:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC) - And just today, James A. Moore also died. BOZ (talk) 22:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- There's already one obit (Locus), I'm sure more will be published in the next couple of days. Guinness323 (talk) 16:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. Sad days, with so many of these folks passing every year now! BOZ (talk) 21:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- There's already one obit (Locus), I'm sure more will be published in the next couple of days. Guinness323 (talk) 16:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for checking. Also, I don't know if you heard, but
- All I've been able to find is that he played Diplomacy with Costikyan's crowd (hence how they met), and he also was part of the design team for SPI's megamonster The Campaign for North Africa. (The only source for the former is mentions in various Dippyzines. The only source for the latter is his name in the design credits.). But nothing about Gelber himself. Guinness323 (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe a longshot, but there might be something out there for
Total Eclipse (role-playing game)? BOZ (talk) 11:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)- Was able to find and bit and dePROD. I will be offline for two weeks starting Easter Monday. Guinness323 (talk) 18:08, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK awesome, enjoy that! :) BOZ (talk) 20:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Was able to find and bit and dePROD. I will be offline for two weeks starting Easter Monday. Guinness323 (talk) 18:08, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think these three "Enemy Within" adventures are more than notable enough for their own individual articles, but just in case do you see anything more for
Death on the Reik,Shadows Over Bögenhafen, andThe Enemy Within (Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay)? BOZ (talk) 21:00, 29 March 2024 (UTC)- Have a Happy Easter and a good break. :) BOZ (talk) 06:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I know you're on vacation, but people seem to know that because they keep the deletions going. ;) If you are able to check at all, do you see anything more for Krister Sundelin? BOZ (talk) 11:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- The Black Bouquet was redirected from this version. Do you see any sources for that novel? BOZ (talk) 13:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing Guinness323 (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Likewise, Alliances (novel) was redirected from this version. BOZ (talk) 22:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing so far Guinness323 (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sundelin was deleted, but I recreated it at Draft:Krister Sundelin if you do find anything for him. BOZ (talk) 15:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know if LARP Alliance, Inc. is salvageable, but it looks like that one was already deleted once begore. BOZ (talk) 19:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing Guinness323 (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Aside from the above, do you see anything more for Legacy of Wolves or
Mind Lords of the Last Sea? BOZ (talk) 11:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)- Legacy of Wolves was on the approved books list for Texas prisons in 2017, but otherwise very little.Guinness323 (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK, gotcha. :) Thank you for checking these. BOZ (talk) 23:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Legacy of Wolves was on the approved books list for Texas prisons in 2017, but otherwise very little.Guinness323 (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- How about for Sophisticated Games? BOZ (talk) 06:12, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Still looking, but "sophisticated games" is a common phrase... Guinness323 (talk) 07:00, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I see some sources listed from Scrye, but do you see anything more for Raw Deal (card game)? BOZ (talk) 13:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I did some hunting yesterday when I sae the AfD notice. Couldn't find anything other than Scrye other than Scrye and internet chatter. Guinness323 (talk) 14:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Got anything for the source tags on Deal Me In and The Last Hurrah (Advanced Squad Leader)? BOZ (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing for Deal Me In.Guinness323 (talk) 06:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking. :) BOZ (talk) 11:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Along with those two, do you see anything for The Sinister Spire? BOZ (talk) 21:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing for Sinister Spire. Guinness323 (talk) 06:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Darn, OK, thanks for taking a look. BOZ (talk) 11:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing for Sinister Spire. Guinness323 (talk) 06:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Do you see anything to help remove the tags from
Abduction (card game)? BOZ (talk) 16:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC) - Or how about
City (board game)andTarguiboth by Jumbo Games? BOZ (talk) 12:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC) - And a couple more, La Bataille d'Albuera: Espagnol and
The Emperor Returns? BOZ (talk) 13:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)- Nothing for La Bataille d'Albuera: Espagnol. Guinness323 (talk) 18:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about for
The Golf Game: Par Excellence? I think the publisher may be based in Belgium based on google searches if that helps? BOZ (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC) - Do you see anything to help remove the tags from Share Mania, Quadromania,
Axiom (game)? They were all from apparently non-notable publishers so I understand they may be challenges. BOZ (talk) 13:17, 16 June 2024 (UTC) - Nothing for either Quadromania or Share Mania. Guinness323 (talk) 16:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Gotcha, thanks for checking. :) BOZ (talk) 16:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about for the tags on
International Cricket (board game)and8th Army (board game)? BOZ (talk) 15:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
When you have a chance, can you see what sources come up for Brian Campbell (game designer)? BOZ (talk) 03:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- He is a prolific author (or actually prolific co-author), but I can find no RS mentions of him or interviews or even being guest of homor at conventions...)Guinness323 (talk) 16:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Gotcha, that's too bad, but thanks for checking! BOZ (talk) 21:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about for the notability tag on The Seven Sisters (role-playing game supplement),
Clanbook: Gangrel, orAnthony J. Bryant? BOZ (talk) 06:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)- Nothing for Seven Sisters. Added material to Gangrels and Anthony J. Bryant.Guinness323 (talk) 21:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for working on those. :) BOZ (talk) 22:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing for Seven Sisters. Added material to Gangrels and Anthony J. Bryant.Guinness323 (talk) 21:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
The following were recently PRODded and then dePRODded, in case you see anything more for any of them: Double Arena, Sunday Drivers (Car Wars), Truck Stop (Car Wars), Car Wars Reference Screen*, Armadillo Autoduel Arena, East Midville, The AADA Vehicle Guide*.
There's enough here going on already so I'm not asking you to work on the rest of these, but if you happen to turn up sources that can be applied to any of the following, these have all been redirected but could potentially be restored: Car Wars Expansion Set 6[4], Convoy (Car Wars)[5], Uncle Albert's Auto Stop & Gunnery Shop 2035 Catalog[6], Car Wars Expansion Kit 10[7], Boat Wars[8], and The Car Wars Compendium[9]. BOZ (talk) 06:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing significant for Double Arena or Aramdillo Autoduel Arena. :( Guinness323 (talk) 03:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, thanks for checking those. :) BOZ (talk) 05:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
How about for The Boardgamer? BOZ (talk) 07:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can only find mentions of it in General magazine. Guinness323 (talk) 19:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for checking. BOZ (talk) 21:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just letting you know I recently restored the redirected
Indiana Jones and the Tomb of the TemplarsandBeyond the Wall: Pictland & The North, in case anyone takes issue with those. :) BOZ (talk) 03:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC) - Same thing for
Mekton Wars 1: Invasion Terra. :) BOZ (talk) 11:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC) - One more restored article for now as I've finished looking at Australian Realms:
Volo's Guide to the Dalelands. :) BOZ (talk) 03:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can only find mentions of it in General magazine. Guinness323 (talk) 19:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Do you see any more sources for Indestructoboy (Taron Pounds)? BOZ (talk) 03:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- All sorts of stuff about his fireworks accident. Nothing for his professional life other than a few podcast interviews (which, to be fair, I haven't listened to...) Guinness323 (talk) 22:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate you checking. :) BOZ (talk) 23:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Anything for
Jonathan Wayshak? BOZ (talk) 01:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC) - How about for
How to $ell Your Wargame Design? BOZ (talk) 05:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC) - Got anything for
Gale Force Nine? BOZ (talk) 07:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC) - How about for the game company
Rackhamand its games AT-43 andCadwallon? At least their other game Confrontation had a review in Backstab, and as a French company there may be more for them in Backstab and/or Casus Belli, and or others. I didn't look yet, but there is the potential for more sources in the foreign language versions of these articles. BOZ (talk) 14:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC) - See the talk pages, but do you see anything more for Ladyhawke (novel) or
Lords of Madness? BOZ (talk) 06:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC) - As you are making your way through the Horvath book, it looks like you are in the early 2000s, and a large percentage of the games listed at User:BOZ/Games deletions#Role-playing games are from that time; if you spot anything mentioned in that book, we can probably get it restored. :) BOZ (talk) 22:44, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, good to know. I'll keep my eyes open. Guinness323 (talk) 23:06, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- I cut the list down to remove all the non-English games, and a few others, which left the following for the early 2000s:
- Thanks, good to know. I'll keep my eyes open. Guinness323 (talk) 23:06, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Maybe some of those are covered? BOZ (talk) 23:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- A quick glance through the index says no, but I'll take a closer look tomorrow.Guinness323 (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- OK sounds good. :) Let me know if you see anything more for any of those. BOZ (talk) 10:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- A quick glance through the index says no, but I'll take a closer look tomorrow.Guinness323 (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe some of those are covered? BOZ (talk) 23:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're in the 2010s now in the Horvath book, so extending that list:
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This one was a lot shorter than the early 2000s list of deleted RPGs. BOZ (talk) 08:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- There's only about 15 left, and none of them are on your list. Guinness323 (talk) 17:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh well, got to check because you never know. :) BOZ (talk) 17:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure how the tags apply to Keléstia Productions, but do we have anything to improve that one? BOZ (talk) 22:28, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Or how about Krazy Maze? BOZ (talk) 13:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was only able to find one picture of a copy of the game. It apparently was published in the 1940s, and bears no relationship to the "Krazy Maze" game listed on BGG. But that's all I've been able to discover. Guinness323 (talk) 06:13, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for taking a look. BOZ (talk) 13:37, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was only able to find one picture of a copy of the game. It apparently was published in the 1940s, and bears no relationship to the "Krazy Maze" game listed on BGG. But that's all I've been able to discover. Guinness323 (talk) 06:13, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm thinking you might have something to help Draft:Mark Herman (game designer) succeed at AFC? BOZ (talk) 07:44, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Covers
[edit]If you've got anything for them, yesterday I started A Paladin in Hell and The Bestiary (Dragonlance: Fifth Age). :) BOZ (talk) 11:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I started
Jakandor, Island of WarandJakandor, Isle of Destinyalong withCult of the Dragon (sourcebook)yesterday. BOZ (talk) 16:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC) - Anything for Transylvania Chronicles I: Dark Tides Rising and Transylvania Chronicles II: Son of the Dragon? BOZ (talk) 13:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, a thought: Bundle all four Transyvania Chronicles into one wiki? Guinness323 (talk) 03:58, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- That may ultimately be the route to go, and it has been done before on similar topics. It partly depends on how much separate material can be found on each volume. BOZ (talk) 04:31, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, a thought: Bundle all four Transyvania Chronicles into one wiki? Guinness323 (talk) 03:58, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- How about a cover for
Dragonlance Classics 15th Anniversary Edition. BOZ (talk) 04:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Do you have covers for these adventures?: The Shattered Circle, Wrath of the Minotaur, The Sylvan Veil BOZ (talk) 12:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Or how about
Tales From The EtherandCalandia Guidebook? BOZ (talk) 05:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC) - How about
Cry-Star: First of the Free*? BOZ (talk) 17:01, 27 May 2024 (UTC) - Also how about
The Fourth Succession War Military Atlas Volume 1andStardemon? BOZ (talk) 13:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC) - How about
Conklin's Atlas of the Worlds? BOZ (talk) 22:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC) - What can you find for the Rolemaster supplements Tales of the Loremasters*, Quellbourne: Land of the Silver Mist*, Journey to the Magic Isle*, and Demons of the Burning Night*? :) BOZ (talk) 23:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not ignoring you, I have a number of real-world quests to fulfill... Guinness323 (talk) 02:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, no worries, whenever you can get to them. :) Real world stuff is always more important! BOZ (talk) 02:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not ignoring you, I have a number of real-world quests to fulfill... Guinness323 (talk) 02:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
A better year
[edit]- Of course you noticed I was going through the handful of issues of Backstab that I found online, and one thing I noticed is that there is a high rate of games reviewed in that publication and Pyramid, so I had been creating a few articles that cross-referenced between the two, and I did a few more today, and that should be all for now: Cyberpirates!, The Book of the Shadowlands: The Writings of Kuni Mokuna, Kabbalah: Mythic Judaism, Star Trek: The Next Generation Narrator's Toolkit. BOZ (talk) 20:34, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- I finished GI #3 today, and boy did I start a lot of new articles! Monday is a US holiday so next week I decided to just focus my one day at home that week on Computer Gaming World instead, so I will be doing issue #4 two weeks from today, which should yield a lot fewer articles. :) New ones today are: Orgy (game), Mr. Trucker, Bewitched (board game), Insider Dealing (board game), Schoko & Co., Slick!,
Mr. President (board game), Campaign Trail: The Game of Presidential Elections, Who Can Beat Nixon?, Presidential Campaign (board game), Election (board game),West of Alamein,Gulf Strike (board game),War of 1812 (board game),Team Yankee (board game), Pilots' Almanac, Castles of Harn, The Staff of Fanon, Realm of Chaos: Slaves of Darkness. Whew! I need a vacation. ;) BOZ (talk) 20:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC) - Today, I did the last two Backstab/Pyramid articles for now - at least until I get around to translating the titles of the many other books they reviewed to see if I can compare them. ;) That means: The Sailor Moon Role-Playing Game and Resource Book and The Way of the Phoenix. By the way, both magazines did a lot of Legend of the Five Rings RPG books, so I will be expanding that sooner or later! BOZ (talk) 19:55, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- The things I would never have found if I weren't using my time to go through all the games deletions thoroughly! I restored a redirected article on Origins Award winner
Conflict of Heroes: Storms of Steellast week, and today I restoredWargods of Ægyptusafter a PROD. I am going to double check later on to make sure there are no other Origins winners on my list that should never have been deleted! I figure if something won an award, there is bound to be other coverage for it out there... BOZ (talk) 17:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC) - Back at it as promised! Games International #4 is done, which means I am 1/4 of the way finished with this magazine already. :) A short run, but lots of reviews - today, I started: Maloney's Inheritance, The Golf Game: Par Excellence, Wicketz, The Metric Mile,
Ancients (board game), Tokyo Express: The Guadalcanal Naval Campaign – 1942, Desert Falcons (board game), The Campaigns of Robert E. Lee, Test of Arms. BOZ (talk) 18:25, 16 September 2021 (UTC) - Got issue #5 done today, and will do the next issue next week Thursday. :) Today's new ones are: First Past the Post (board game),
Circus Imperium, Deal Me In (board game), Pole Position (board game), The Peninsular War 1808-14, The Last Hurrah (Advanced Squad Leader), Tales From The Ether, Calandia Guidebook. BOZ (talk) 18:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC) - I found two more in Backstab #12 that were also reviewed in Pyramid, so I started Safari Jack and No Man's Land (Call of Cthulhu). BOZ (talk) 22:52, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- I have been working on translating those titles. :) Backstab issue #15 brought me several more that also had reviews in Pyramid: The Way of the Scorpion, Abduction (card game), The Way of War (miniatures rules), Walking the Way: The Lost Spells of Rokugan, Cry-Star: First of the Free. That leaves two more issues of Backstab that I have access to, so I will work on those probably some time next week. :) BOZ (talk) 18:49, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- One more of those today from Backstab #19: Victory: World War II. I only have one more copy of Backstab to go that I have access to, so I will probably look through that one tonight and/or tomorrow to see if there are any more like these. :) BOZ (talk) 18:40, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- OK, one last one of these for the foreseeable future, from Backstab #24! I made Clan War out of an existing redirect. As you can see at User:BOZ/Backstab there are many red and blue linked articles, from just the 15 articles that I have access to at archive.org, but these remaining ones can be addressed at some far future point! :o BOZ (talk) 17:44, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
- I got through Games International #6 today and started these: Ave Caesar (board game), New York, New York (game), Maestro (board game), City (board game), Targui, Breakaway Rider*, Triumph (board game), Checkmath, Onslaught (board game), La Bataille d'Albuera: Espagnol, The Emperor Returns, The Fourth Succession War Military Atlas Volume 1, Stardemon. Next issue probably next week Monday unless plans change! :) BOZ (talk) 19:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- I did issue #7 today, which yielded these: Share Mania, The Really Nasty Horse Racing Game (which was restored after AFD), Oppression (board game), Quadromania, Axiom (game), Stack (board game), Conklin's Atlas of the Worlds. More next Thursday! :) BOZ (talk) 18:02, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm taking a break for now on creating new articles, but I recently restored the long-ago redirected Fire in the East as there was a review for it. :) BOZ (talk) 10:18, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- I restored
Talisman Timescapetoday because I did find one review for it, so hopefully there is more. BOZ (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2021 (UTC) - It was suggested to me that unsourced redirected articles on older games Password (game) and
Blitzkrieg (game)should merit articles, so I moved them to draft. If you find anything then great, otherwise I will move them back to redirects. :) BOZ (talk) 14:26, 20 November 2021 (UTC) - I am hoping to be able to get back to work on Games International again starting next week! :) BOZ (talk) 21:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
OK, here we go, I managed to get issue #8 for Games International completed, which means we are halfway done with this magazine. :) I may or may not continue with these weekly, we will see. All the red links below are in draft space for now. Anyway, today I started these: International Cricket (board game), Topple (game), Jump the Queue, MBT (board game), Fight for the Sky, Ace of Aces: Wingleader, 8th Army (board game), Tales of the Loremasters, Quelbourne: Land of the Silver Mist, Journey to the Magic Isle, Demons of the Burning Night. BOZ (talk) 19:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- If you spot anything that might have been reviewed in Phoenix (or anywhere else) at User:BOZ/Games deletions#Board and miniatures games let me know and I will restore it. :) BOZ (talk) 20:59, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- I've been keeping a list of Phoenix reviews where a wiki doesn't exist. Will compare that to your list. Guinness323 (talk) 21:52, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- GI #9 is completed! As before, red links are in drafts, and here are the new ones created today: Can't Stop Express, Thomas the Tank Engine Game, Liar's Dice (Milton Bradley),
High-Bid, Ea$y Money, Excalibur (board game), Turning Point: Stalingrad, Arnhem Bridge (board game), Modern Naval Battles, Deception at Dasa, Tredroy. BOZ (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC) - Hey there! :) I have only been working on the magazines while working from home (or having days off at home), which has generally meant once a week if at all for the past 6 months or so. However, we got word last week that the office would be closed for at least 3 weeks, so starting this week I am home every day for now. :) My original goal before getting sidetracked was to get GI done before the end of the year; I doubt I have enough days at home to make that happen, but starting tomorrow I will get as far as I can and then finish it at the beginning of the year. :) I think the next magazine or two will be one that focuses on more familiar territory with fewer reviews so I am not creating so many new ones! I am leaning towards Different Worlds currently, or maybe Adventurer, but we will see.
- I lied - I did GI #10 today instead of tomorrow. ;) I started (or brought back) 1853 (board game), Counter Intelligence (board game), Hookipa (board game), ASG Baseball, Clue Quest, Tomorrow the World (board game), Soldier's Companion, Light Division (board game), Hitler's Last Gamble, Dungeoneer, Backgammon (1988 video game). BOZ (talk) 22:13, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- I got through GI #11 today, and I started these: Full Metal Planète, Traber Derby Spiel, A la carte (game), Favoriten (board game), Chaos In Kansas, School of Hard Knocks (GURPS), Vessel Compendium 1: Adventurer Class, Vessel Compendium 2: Pursuit Class, Briarwood Castle, Big Bang (video game), Go-Moku / Renju. BOZ (talk) 19:29, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- I finished GI #12 today, definitely fewer new creations this time: Echelon (board game), Death By Diet, Temple of the Beastmen,
Europe Aflame, Usuthu! The Battle Of Rorke's Drift 1879, Troll Gods. I may or may not be working on the next issue tomorrow - if not, definitely next week! BOZ (talk) 17:28, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Moving right along to GI #13 and my mad quest to try to get to the end this week! ;) Today, I started Liftoff!, Chamelequin, Clubhouse Baseball, How to Launch Your Own Board Game*, 5th Fleet: Modern Naval Combat in the Indian Ocean, The Siege of Jerusalem, Starfire (role-playing game), Panzer Battles (video game), Head Coach v3, Pro Football Simulation. BOZ (talk) 19:06, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- GI #14 yielded these today: Minden Playing Card Cricket, Dicke Kartoffeln, Aliens the Board Game, Grosz Jakosa, Karawane (board game), Cash (card game), Escape from the Hidden Castle, Rise and Fall (board game), Napoleon's Battles, The Preacher and the Cross, The Armstrong Malison, The Curse (Call of Cthulhu), Crisis on Cloud City, Crash Course Manual. BOZ (talk) 20:04, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- GI #15 done, and one more issue to go. :) I started these today: Coup (board game), Star Wars: Escape From The Death Star, Flux (board game), Roller Coaster Hippo, Goldrausch, Rettet Die Umwelt, Wer Hat Mehr?, A Day at the Races (video game), Red Barricades: ASL Historical Module 1, Canal Priests of Mars, Elder Secrets of Glorantha, Hunter Killer (video game), Greg Norman's Shark Attack!: The Ultimate Golf Simulator. BOZ (talk) 19:46, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- And here we go, the finale, new creations from the final issue Games International #16: March Madness (board game), Cover Up (board game), Römer (card game), Fidchell: Celtic Chess, Murphy (board game), Wall$treet, Wall $treet Raider, Wall Street Wizard, Shell Shock!, Modern Naval Battles II: The Campaign Game, Twilightcycle: 2000, Bottled Demon, Antheads. Have a happy New Year! :) BOZ (talk) 19:00, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey there! :) To start the year off with, I decided to finish off the reviews from The Games Machine that I had not touched from earlier. I understand there are a number of mini-reviews in the magazine, and I will come back to those eventually. My play for the meantime is to go through Different Worlds and its 47 issues. I have perused most of the issues so far to get a feel for it, and this will be the first magazine I go through where the majority of review subjects already have articles. :) The first 10 issues had much fewer reviews than most of the issues after that, so this week I will try to get through the first 10 issues, but after that I will switch to one or two issues per week. My office is still closed this week, and no idea when we will reopen, so with any "extra" time I am going to resume the rather lengthy project of User:BOZ/Pyramid. :) After finishing DW, we will see where I go from there! :) BOZ (talk) 17:57, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I got through the first 10 issues of DW, easy-peasy. In a total of 18 reviews among them, only one required a new article, so I started a draft for Promotions and Prizes. :) Issues #11 and #12 definitely have more reviews, so I will be doing those on a one-at-a-time basis for now, or in a few cases two or three issues at a time. My office is officially closed until further notice, so if I run out of side projects while working at home I may do these on more than one day per week, but for now that will not be necessary. It feels good to not be creating very many new articles for a while! :) The magazine also started reviewing movies and books after a while, so not all of my new creations will be for games, but I will just let you know about new games articles here! BOZ (talk) 18:53, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Doing more work on the Pyramid list, there are definitely more crossover with Backstab, but so far I have only started The Way of the Wolf, Eisen (7th Sea), Aberrant: Year One, Hunter: Survival Guide, Mokolé, and Horrors of the Z'Bri - maybe more soon, maybe more later. ;) BOZ (talk) 02:38, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Just two more of those Pyramid/Backstab crossovers for the foreseeable future!: Further Information and Aberrant Worldwide Phase II. BOZ (talk) 20:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- I went back to DW today, where the issues generally begin featuring much larger review sections than the first ten, and issue #11 yielded only one new game article: The Tombs of Valla. BOZ (talk) 18:47, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- I did issues #12 & 13 today, and started a draft for City of Valla. BOZ (talk) 17:30, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- From issue #14, I started Sea-Steeds and Wave Riders today. BOZ (talk) 17:25, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Long hiatus temporarily interrupted. :) I realized earlier this week that I had missed The Keep (board game) while working on Imagine, so I created a draft for it - actually, I had incorrectly identified it as a review for the RPG adventure also published by Mayfair, but it was correctly pointed out to me that this review was actually for the board game, so I rectified that situation. :) BOZ (talk) 17:56, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
I've been doing a little with White Wolf magazine - actually I've gotten all the way up through issue #22 which you may have noticed. :) I have started several new articles, mostly on PBM games, although not long ago I started Melos Caverna ([91]) and today I got one for a series called Tribes ([92]). :) I'm not sure how long I will go on with WW, but it may last a while! I've started most new articles that I would have started already up through issue #25, but once I get past that point I may be starting a bunch of them. BOZ (talk) 20:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is there an on-line resource for White Wolf? Guinness323 (talk) 00:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately not that I've ever seen, but those links in parenthesis contain the reviews for those and other products. BOZ (talk) 04:58, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm definitely rolling along on White Wolf, and will be starting many more articles as I go. :) I figure I will post them all here, and you can work on any that catch your attention as you please, and the rest I will just grab your attention if anyone tries to delete them. Meanwhile, I have already started the ones I've mentions above, as well as Twilight Encounters* ([93]) and Red Empire (game) ([94]). :) BOZ (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- As expected, definitely started a bunch of new ones yesterday:
Era Ten,Arkham Unveiled,At Your Door,Cthulhu Casebook,Curse of Cthulhu,Mansions of Madness (Call of Cthulhu),Challenges for Champions,Demons Rule,Come on Down!!,Deadly Fusion,The New Titans Sourcebook,The Otherwhere Quest, andDowntown Militarized Zone. :) BOZ (talk) 00:03, 16 October 2024 (UTC) - I went through issue #27 yesterday and started
Alien Enemies,The Olympians (Champions),Starship Operator's Manual, Volume 1, Rifts Sourcebook, Rolemaster Character Records (redirected), Rolemaster Heroes and Rogues,Swordtag, Rogue Mistress, Storypaths Deck I: The Path of Horror, Storypaths Deck II: The Path of Intrigue. :) See these reviews here. BOZ (talk) 15:20, 18 October 2024 (UTC) - Yesterday on issue #28, I started articles for The Challenge (game), Road Kill (Champions), Data Screen 2.0.2.0., Interstellar Elite Combat, Societies Sourcebook, Lionheart (supplement), Magic (NightLife), The Boy King (Pendragon), Dragon Hunt (Shadowrun), The Neo-Anarchist's Guide to North America, TAQ (role-playing game), Roshia's Gauntlet (Code of the Rats), Doomstones: Dwarf Wars, Warhammer Companion. :) See these reviews here. BOZ (talk) 19:27, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- I worked on issue #29 yesterday and started Dark Designs, Wilderness Encounters Book, Technology 1991, Hahlmabrea, Western Hero, In the Musical Vein, Extreme Paranoia: Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Shot, Ivy & Chrome, Native American Nations Volume One, Virtual Realities, Kanawa Personal Weapons, Operation: Hard Sell, Runedice, Warp World. See these reviews here. BOZ (talk) 15:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Coming in late, but I finished #30 last week, and that had a huge review section which resulted in a ton of new articles! :o I started The Pact of Pasaquine, Trial by Fire (Ars Magica), Return to Dunwich, European Enemies, Night City (Cyberpunk 2020), Dark Riders (Fifth Cycle), Military Races, Ganghedge Manifesto, Starhedge Manifesto, Westhedge Manifesto, Rifts World Book 1: Vampire Kingdoms, Rüs, London Sourcebook, Native American Nations Volume Two, Total Eclipse (Shadowrun), Cracken's Rebel Field Guide, Death Star Technical Companion, Star Wars Gamemaster Kit, Bar Wars (Tales From the Floating Vagabond), Time Drifters, Bangkok Cesspool of the Orient, American Combat Vehicle Handbook, Infantry Weapons of the World, Merc 2000, NATO Combat Vehicle Handbook, Soviet Combat Vehicle Handbook, Citybook V: Sideshow, Death's Dark Shadow, Doomstones: Fire in the Mountains, Doomstones: Blood in Darkness, Doomstones: Death Rock, and Lichemaster. I think I earned a break for at least a couple of weeks. :D See these reviews here. BOZ (talk) 04:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- This past week I finished #31, and started a bunch more: A Winter's Tale (Ars Magica), Champions Presents, Deathwind, Minas Ithil (Middle-earth Role Playing), Nazgûl's Citadel, Outlaw (Rolemaster), Spell User's Companion, Rigger Black Book, Galaxy Guide 6: Tramp Freighters, Sorcerers of Pan Tang, Supertanker of Death, Creatures of Aysle, Kanawa Heavy Weapons, The Land Below, Orrorsh, The Storm Knights' Guide to the Possibility Wars, Lore of the Crypt Book I: Magic Treasures, Lore of the Crypt Book II: Monsters and NPCs, Lore of the Crypt Book III: Spells, Lore of the Crypt Book IV: New Rules, Races, and Classes, Lore of the Crypt Book V: Adventures, The Player's Guide, The Succubus Club. BOZ (talk) 15:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- This past week I finished #32 which resulted in new articles for Dangerous Journeys: Mythus, Black Death (Ars Magica), Mythic Places, Swamp Thing (DC Heroes), Fantasy Hero Companion II, Villains Unlimited, The Paranoia Sourcebook, Realm Controller's Manual, Realms of the Unknown Player's Manual, Elven Fire, Planets of the Galaxy, Volume 1, Adventure With No Name, The Reich Stuff, City of Demons (Torg), Space Gods (Torg), The Temple of Rec Stalek, Tharkold, Alien Hunger, Awakening: Diablerie Mexico, Milwaukee by Night. BOZ (talk) 08:37, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Games by company
[edit]SPI Games
[edit]While you were working on the SPI wargames above, I went through the List of SPI games and there are a bunch there with notability tags and other sourcing issues, but I also found a few articles that were redirected to the list page so I moved them to drafts for now: Armageddon: Tactical Combat, 3000-500 BC, NATO: Operational Combat in Europe in the 1970s, Patrol (board game), and Ragnarok (board game). The first two were created by the same user, Patrol was around for several years, and the last one was by yours truly. The NATO game was speedy deleted the same day it was created, as it was unsourced; I later restored and redirected to the list in hopes that it could one day be salvaged. Armageddon and Patrol were nominated for AFD along with all the other articles created by the same user on the same day he created them (along with Patrol since he also made an edit to that one), at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armageddon: Tactical Combat, 3000-500 BC. (To the Green Fields Beyond (game) was kept as it was an Origins Award winner; Dixie (board wargame) was redirected to the list page, but I restored it a few years ago while working on Ares magazine). Armageddon was redirected to the list page, while Patrol was actually redirected to a similar game. Trainwrecks like these are the main reason most people hate bundled AFDs, especially uneven ones. Ragnarok actually had one review in Space Gamer based on its original publication in Ares magazine but was redirected at AFD because I did not know of any other reviews at the time, but I believe it was also republished as a standalone game later. If there are sources out there to make any of these worth restoring, then we will have to make that happen. :) BOZ (talk) 12:27, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- I expect to be able to resume work on articles next week, since I will have my new computer and workstation all set up, but in the meantime I figured it would be good to take a look at some articles like these. :) BOZ (talk) 16:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Eh, the closer wasn't too impressed with what we had so far, since the reviews are not being cited yet, so I moved Armageddon and Ragnarok back to redirects to preserve what you have done so far and will include them on my future to-do list. Bringing articles back from AFD is a bit trickier than ones which were deleted by CSD or PROD for notability or just boldly redirected, which is why I kept the NATO article. Given that, if you have anything to help build up Dixie that should help if any questions arise as to why I restored it when maybe I should have asked the closer about that one first as well... :o To the Green Fields is not likely in any danger, as an Origins-winner of course. BOZ (talk) 21:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- On second thought, rather than leaving things that way for Armageddon, I recalled that we have another option to try for getting copies of those reviews. :) BOZ (talk) 21:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have discovered a review from Phoenix #1, how do I edit this into the article when it is in redirect mode? This is the content:
In the first issue of Phoenix, John Norris thought the game considerably less complex than other wargames covering this historic period, but noted that "The level of complexity can be varied by the use of optional rules, which can raise the game from a simple slogging match to a fairly good simulation of the capabilities of the armies involved." Norris thought the weakest part of the rules was "the simulation of morale; this is only done through an optional Panic Level."[1] Guinness323 (talk) 19:22, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oh! I assume you mean Armageddon; I restored it to draft space, and added this review to it. I will leave this one and Patrol in draft space in hopes that people can find the magazines we requested. BOZ (talk) 01:38, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Speaking of the Armageddon draft, if you have any of the article titles and authors for any of the reviews you discovered, that may help people track them down at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request#Need reviews for wargame Armageddon: Tactical Combat, 3000-500 BC as they did for Patrol which helped get it published. :) We need to keep the Resource Exchange in mind more often when it is more imperative to track down a review! BOZ (talk) 21:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Now, since you split this section off, and since I mentioned that there were other SPI games with notability issues, and since you do a way better job on wargames than I can do, if you wanted to take a look at any of the others I found, here they are!
I went though everything in Category:Simulations Publications games, and these have notability tags: Citadel of Blood, King Arthur (board wargame), Search & Destroy: Tactical Combat Vietnam 1965-1966, Vector 3, and Voyage of the B.S.M. Pandora
These have no citations at all, or at least none that contribute to notability: Battle for Germany, Cemetery Hill (game), Dreadnought (naval wargame), Grunt (board wargame), Highway to the Reich, Panzer Armee Afrika (board game), and War in Europe (game)
- BOZ, if you have time, can you retitle Panzer Armee Afrika (board game) to PanzerArmee Afrika (board game) (only two worrds, but the median "A" is upper case)? One day, I will learn how to do this. Guinness323 (talk) 06:51, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
The following games have only one review cited: Agincourt (game), Arena of Death (game), Barbarian Kings, Berlin '85, Conquistador (game), Dragonslayer (board game), Fifth Corps (game), Gondor: The Siege of Minas Tirith, Hof Gap, Introduction to Adventure Gaming, Napoleon's Last Battles, The Omega War, Renaissance of Infantry, Rescue from the Hive, Sauron (game), Spies!, StarForce: Alpha Centauri, StarGate (board game), StarSoldier, The Sword and the Stars, and The Wreck of the B.S.M. Pandora (some articles had one independent review and one from an SPI magazine like Ares, but I did not list those here since there are plenty that have just one! nor did I intentionally list anything that won an Origins award)
- Note: what are the odds that on the same day I'd edit articles on two different game designers that I'd never heard of before, David J. Ritchie and Richard Snider, who both were born in the 1950s and who both died at a relatively young age in 2009? Guinness323 (talk) 02:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, no kidding, I noticed that before I saw your comment here. :) BOZ (talk) 03:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
On these, sources are listed, but there are no citations present in the article: Across Suez, Chinese Farm (board game), Golan (game), The Next War (board game), and Panzergruppe Guderian (game)
And for miscellaneous issues that may need attention, The Campaign for North Africa has sources but no reception so far
It's a long list and I've got lots of other stuff I wanted to look at on a higher priority, but if you spot anything that grabs your attention, or one day find yourself looking for something to do, or just get on a roll, knock yourself out or spend a year slowly going through that. :) BOZ (talk) 04:31, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey not bad, less than a year - nine months actually! :) Now, if you really want to be a super completest and work on every article we have for SPI games, of the 85 articles currently in the SPI games category, these are the only ones that I had not seen any significant edits from you: After the Holocaust (game), BattleFleet Mars, Commando (role-playing game), Dallas (role-playing game), Demons (board game), Invasion America (board wargame), Swords & Sorcery (SPI), Universe (role-playing game). :) BOZ (talk) 11:27, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Now, if you want to be a super extra completest, the last thing I would have for this section would be the following articles that you have worked on before, although it might have been a while, but they just need a cover image if you can find one!: Agincourt (game), The Creature That Ate Sheboygan, Dawn of the Dead (game), Dixie (board wargame), Grunt (board wargame), Time Tripper (board game), Titan Strike!, War in the Ice. BOZ (talk) 12:01, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Awesome, and well done. :) There are of course many redlinks at List of SPI games that may one day need to become bluelinks, but I for one do not have either the sources or the time to invest in trying to make that happen! If you like this focused approach, I may start a new thread for another defunct company in the not-too-distant future. :) BOZ (talk) 00:52, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
References
Metagaming Concepts
[edit]It was truly a herculean effort for you to get through all the SPI games above, and even more impressive that you have apparently more than doubled the number of articles in that category over the past year or so! :o But there is nothing left in that category that you haven't already done, so if you like, we can look at other companies you have mostly cleaned up on, whenever you need a break from other things?
You've improved everything on the MicroGame line so far except for The Lords of Underearth. Dragons of Underearth is an RPG probably based on that game, and The Air-Eaters Strike Back! is a sequel to a different MicroGame. The Fantasy Trip was their biggest RPG (with the supplements Fantasy Masters' Codex, Fantasy Masters' Screen, and In the Labyrinth (supplement) and adventures including Death Test, Death Test 2, Master of the Amulets, Orb Quest, Security Station, and Tollenkar's Lair), and Monsters! Monsters! is another early RPG that they produced. Another historical game is The Trojan War (board game). That's it, you've gotten the other ones. :)
Articles uncreated then? Material first of all for The Fantasy Trip not yet created includes Advanced Melee and Advanced Wizard (which may or may not warrant separate articles one day?), The Forest-Lords of Dihad, Treasure of the Silver Dragon, Treasure of Unicorn Gold, and The Warrior-Lords of Darok.
As for their board games, the following are listed at BGG aside from the ones above: Command at Sea, Fire When Ready, A Fistful of Turkeys (if you can find enough to bring it back from here), and lastly Stalin's Tanks: Armor Battles on the Russian Front.
Not that much! I will take a look at a few more companies eventually, preferably ones like these with a limited amount of releases - no more monster production companies like SPI! LOL :) BOZ (talk) 01:25, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Origins Award winners
[edit]Happy New Year. :) Back in 2020 we had gone through all the Origins Award/Charles S. Roberts Award winners from the 1970s and started articles for anything that did not have one. While you have been going through the Phoenix reviews and also now starting new articles, that reminded me that we left off with 1980. I saw quite a few reviews for Origins winners in what you have added so far, so it's not a stretch to think we might get a few more from the early 1980s as well? For the record, here are the remaining redlinked winners from the time period where Phoenix was in publication, in case any of these did actually have reviews:
- HMS Review - Herb Barents
- TacForce (Game Designers' Workshop) [95] – won again in 1981
- Renaissance Rules – George Gush
- Basic Fighter Combat Manual (Gamescience) [96]
- Advanced Fighter Combat (Gamescience) [97]
- Wings (board game) (Excalibre Games) [98]
- [[
Ironbottom Sound (board game)]](Hobby Japan)[99] - Harpoon (board game) (Adventure Games) [100]
- Ship o' the Line (Battleline Publications) [101]
- Journal of 20th Century Wargaming - Nick Schuessler – won again in 1983
- Rally 'Round the Flag (board game) (Iron Brigade Miniatures) [102]
If you find reviews in Phoenix so we can start any of those then great, otherwise we will get to them eventually. :) BOZ (talk) 22:07, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ironbottom Sound is next on my list of new articles (review in Phoenix 36 + the award). I'll take another look for these others.Guinness323 (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- Can't wait! :) BOZ (talk) 18:56, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Just noting that I recently added three PBM Origins Award winners: Starship Command, Forgotten Realms, and Fall of Rome. :) BOZ (talk) 05:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Wargames
[edit]You may or may not know of these already, but I went through all the titles at http://tacticalwargamer.com/magazines/magazines.htm and searched on archive.org, and these are what I found:
- Miniature Wargames (a few random issues): https://archive.org/details/MiniatureWargames111/Miniature_Wargames_111/
- The General: https://archive.org/details/general_magazine or a different collection: https://archive.org/details/TheGeneralVol21No5/The%20General%20Vol%2009%20No%202/
- Command: https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22command+magazine%22&sort=titleSorter
RPG magazines are much better represented on there, unfortunately! There may be more that I did not find, of course. But, this is at least something to work with. BOZ (talk) 15:43, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
I restored Air Force (game) and moved it to draft space. :) BOZ (talk) 13:16, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Excellent. :) If you ever spot anything more for any of these, they may yet have a future!:
Archworld- wargame published in 1977 by Fantasy Games Unlimited [104]- Battle of Monmouth (game) AFD - 1978 wargame about the American Revolution [105]
- Conflict (board game) (PROD) - game by Parker Brothers published in 1940 [106]
- Dragon Pass (redirected) - 1980 version of White Bear and Red Moon [107]
- Supremacy (1940 board game) AFD - World War II board wargame published in 1940 [108]
- Warlock (board game) AFD - 1979 fantasy combat game [109]
BOZ (talk) 13:17, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
One thing I should point out, and I think you may have access to some issues, but at User:BOZ/Casus Belli I have noted more than a few wargame reviews from that French publication - a much higher percentage than usual for an RPG magazine. :) BOZ (talk) 05:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Alas, I did have a source for them, but that site was taken down recently. :( Guinness323 (talk) 17:11, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Argh, that's unfortunate! :( BOZ (talk) 17:43, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Just a heads up, as long as you have your wargame sources out; I recall that Games International reviewed wargames in nearly every issue, and that includes quite a few that I started as noted and are all linked to above: Desert Falcons* (GDW, 1988), The Peninsular War (Rostherne Games, 1973), Onslaught (TSR, 1987), La Bataille d'Albuera: Espagnol (Clash of Arms, 1987), The Emperor Returns (Clash of Arms, 1986), Fight for the Sky (Attactix, 1982), 8th Army (Attactix, 1982), Turning Point: Stalingrad (Avalon Hill, 1989), Arnhem Bridge (Attactix, 1982), Modern Naval Battles (3W, 1989), Tomorrow the World (3W, 1989), Light Division (3W, 1989), Hitler's Last Gamble (3W, 1989), Europe Aflame (TSR, 1989), Usuthu! (Valhalla Games, 1989), 5th Fleet (Victory Games, 1989), Rise and Fall (Engelmann, 1989), Napoleon's Battles (Avalon Hill, 1989), Red Barricades (Avalon Hill, 1989), Shell Shock! (Victory Games, 1990), and Modern Naval Battles II (3W, 1990), and possibly others if I missed them! BOZ (talk) 23:23, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
In case you have the sources to make it work, the only MicroGame without an article is Sticks & Stones (board game) [110]. :) BOZ (talk) 01:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
I don't know if this is redundant to what you already had, but someone did take the time and trouble to put User:Rindis/Sources together. :) BOZ (talk) 12:46, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
To give myself something to do, to help out with your quest on the The Comprehensive Guide to Board Wargaming, I went through all the reviews on pages 128-187 and found links for everything there - hope that helps. :) I think I fairly accurately matched up the names of the games since the ones in the book tended to be abbreviated, but the ones with a ? were ones that I could not find a BGG link for. I included every game in the list, even the ones too brief to truly be considered reviews. BOZ (talk) 16:05, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- African Campaign[111],
Afrika Korps,After the Holocaust, Airborne![112],Air Force,Air War '78,Alexander the Great,Alien Space,American Civil War,American Revolution,Ancient Conquest,Antietam, Anvil-Dragoon[113],Anzio,Arab–Israeli Wars,The Ardennes Offensive,Arms Race,Arnhem,Assassinate Hitler, Atlanta[114],Austerlitz,Avalanche,Barbarossa,Bar Lev, Basic Air Combat[115],Bastogne,Bataille de la Moscowa,BattleFleet Mars,Battle for Germany, Battle for Madrid[116],Battle for Midway,Battle of Britain, The Battle of Five Armies?,Battle of Nations, Battle of the Atlantic?,Battle of the Bulge,Battle of the Marne,Battle of the Wilderness,La Belle Alliance,Bay of Pigs,Blitzkrieg,Bloody Ridge,Blue & Gray,Blue & Gray II,Borodino,Breakout & Pursuit,Breitenfeld,Bull Run, Bundeswehr[117],Burma,CA,Caesar,Caesar's Legions,Cambrai,Cauldron,Cemetery Hill,Chaco,Chancellorsville,Chariot,Chattanooga,Chickamauga,Chinese Farm,Combined Arms,The Conquerors,Conquistador,Coral Sea,Crimea,Cromwell,Crusader,Custer's Last Stand,D-Day,Decline and Fall,Desert War,Destruction of Army Group Center,Dien Bien Phu,Diplomacy,Dixie, DMZ[118],Drang Nach Osten!,Dreadnought,Eagle Day,East Front,The East is Red,1812,El Alamein,English Civil War, Fall of Bataan[119],Fall of Tobruk,Fast Carriers,Firefight,Flying Tigers, Formelhaut II[120], Four Roads to Moscow?,Foxbat & Phantom,France, 1940,Franco-Prussian War,Fredericksburg,Frederick the Great,Freiburg,Friedland 1807,Frigate,Fulda Gap,Gettysburg,Global War,Golan,La Grande Armee,Grenadier, Grunt,Guerilla, Helms Deep[121], Helms Deep by SPI?,Highway to the Reich, Hitler's Last Gamble[122],Hooker and Lee,Hue,Hurtgen Forest,Invasion: America,Island War,Jena-Auerstadt, Jerusalem[123],Jerusalem,Jutland,Kampfpanzer,Kasserine,Kasserine Pass,Khalkin-Gol,Kingmaker,Korea,Kriegspiel,Kursk,Lee Moves North,Lee v Meade,Legion,Leipzig,Leyte,Ligny,Littorio, Little Big Horn, Lord of the Rings?,Lost Battles,Luetzen,Luftwaffe, MacArthur[124],Manassas, March on India[125], Marine[126],Marengo,MechWar '77,Midway, Minas Tirith,Minuteman,Missile Boat,Missile Crisis, Missile Patrol Boat?,Modern Battles,Modern Battles II,Moscow Campaign,Mukden,Musket and Pike,Napoleon at War,Napoleon at Waterloo,Napoleon's Last Battles,Napoleon's Last Campaigns,Narvik,NATO, 1918[127], NORAD[128],Nordlingen,Normandy,North Africa,The October War,Oil War,Okinawa, Omaha Beach[129],Operation Olympic,Origins of World War II,Outreach,Overlord,Panzer Armee Afrika,PanzerBlitz,Panzer 44,Panzergruppe Guderian,Panzerleader,Patrol, Patton[130], Pearl Harbor[131],Port Arthur, Pursuit of the Bismarck?,Punic Wars,Quatre Bras,Quebec 1759, Raiders of the North?,Red Star/White Star,Remagen,Revolt in the East,Richthofen's War, Rifle and Musket[132],Rifle and Sabre, The Ring Trilogy,Road to Richmond,Road to Ruin,Rocroi, Rommel[133], Rommel's War in North Africa[134],The Russian Campaign,Saipan, Saratoga, 1777[135],Schutztruppe, Search and Destroy,Seelöwe,1776,Seventh Cavalry, Shenandoah[136],Shiloh,Sicily, Siege[137],Siege of Jerusalem, AD 70, Siege of Leningrad[138], Siege of Minas Tirith,Sinai,Sixth Fleet,Sniper,Solomons Campaign,Sorcerer,South Africa, The Spanish Civil War[139],Spartan,Spitfire, Squad Leader, SSN[140],Stalingrad,Starforce, Star Raider[141],Starship Troopers,Star Soldier,Stellar Conquest, Strategy I[142],Submarine,Supercharge,Tactics II[143][144],Tank,Terrible Swift Sword, Their Finest Hour[145],Third Reich,Thirty Years War,Tobruk,Torgau,Triplanetary,Tsushima,Turning Point, UFO[146],USN,Veracruz, Verdun[147], Vicksburg[148], Victory at Sea?,Viking,Von Manstein's Battles,Wacht am Rhein,Wagram,War at Sea,War Between the States,War In the East, War in Europe,War in the Pacific, War in the West[149],War of the Worlds II, Warsaw Pact[150], War of the Starslavers, Waterloo[151],Wavre,Wellington in the Peninsula,Wellington's Victory,West Wall,White Bear and Red Moon,Wilderness Campaign,Winter War,Wolfpack,Wooden Ships and Iron Men,World War I,World War II,World War III,Wurzburg,Year of the Rat,Yeoman,The Ythri, Yugoslavia[152]
Good work on John Hill by the way - that article has always looked pretty funky, and now it's improved. :) I don't know how many of these are wargame designers, but if you see anything at User:BOZ/Games deletions#Designers and artists worth working on, I can help you make that happen; I have drafts going for about half of these. BOZ (talk) 12:35, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
I added links to Nick Palmer for all the articles that cited The Comprehensive Guide to Board Wargaming. I noticed a few that had other authors, so I switched those to Palmer, but if other people were involved in the book and I made an error, those will be easy to find using my edit summary of "fix name of author and add link". I also caught a weird citation on Stellar Conquest, see #3 under the Reception section and tell me what you think. :) BOZ (talk) 04:27, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! That saved me a mountain of work. I did have to go back and change those other names to what they had been -- Palmer sometimes used his friends in the game industry to write reviews. (Charles Vasey, for instance, was at the time the well-known editor of the influential zine Perfidious Albion.) Guinness323 (talk) 05:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- OK gotcha, I wasn't sure about the names, which is why I said something. :) I was in the mood for a repetitive task, so there you go. ;) On the Stellar Conquest article, you have a review from Moves, but the citation is for TCGTBW, so I'm not sure what went wrong there. :) BOZ (talk) 10:57, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Another good catch, thanks. Guinness323 (talk) 22:18, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- OK gotcha, I wasn't sure about the names, which is why I said something. :) I was in the mood for a repetitive task, so there you go. ;) On the Stellar Conquest article, you have a review from Moves, but the citation is for TCGTBW, so I'm not sure what went wrong there. :) BOZ (talk) 10:57, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
LOL, thanks to us Category:Wargames introduced in the 1970s is enormous. :) You likely noticed me creating "RPG supplements by year" categories, so I will probably want to do the same for this category as well later this week because it's grown considerably. :) BOZ (talk) 02:26, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
I went ahead and went through the index in the back of The Complete Book of Wargames to see what is done and not yet done, and at this point it is mostly done. :) I hope this helps! BOZ (talk) 15:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Acre,Afrika Korps,After the Holocaust,Agincourt,Air Assault on Crete and Malta,Air War,Alexander the Great,Alpha Omega,Ancient Conquest,The Arab-Israeli-Wars,Austerlitz,Bar-Lev,BattleFleet Mars,Battle for Germany, The Battle of Agincourt, 1415 A.D.[153],The Battle of Raphia, 217 B.C.,Bismarck,Black Hole,Bloody Ridge,Blue & Gray QuadriGame,Blue & Gray II QuadriGame,Boot Hill,Borodino,Breitenfeld,Caesar,Caesar's Legions,The Campaign for North Africa,Chancellorsville,Chariot,Chivalry & Sorcery,Conquistador!,The Creature That Ate Sheboygan,Crimea,Cross of Iron (board game),Custer's Last Stand,D-Day,Diplomacy,Drang Nach Osten!andUnentschieden,Dungeon!,Advanced Dungeons & Dragons,Dungeons & Dragons, Basic Set,Empire of the Petal Throne,En Garde!,The Fall of Rome,FireFight,4000 A.D.,Foxbat & Phantom,Frederick the Great,Frigate,Fury in the West,Gamma World,Gettysburg,G.E.V.,To the Green Fields Beyond,Guilford Courthouse,Holy War, Iliad: The Siege of Troy[154],Imperium,Invasion: America,John Carter, Warlord of Mars,Jutland,King Arthur's Knights,Kingmaker,La Bataille d'Auerstadt,La Grande Armée,Lee Moves North,Legion,Lille, Lobositz[155],Luftwaffe,Machiavelli,Mech War '77,Melee,Mercenary,Metamorphosis Alpha,MiG Killers,Musket & Pike,Napoleon,Napoleon at Leipzig,Napoleon at War QuadriGame,Napoleon at Waterloo,Napoleon's Last Battles QuadriGame,Ney vs. Wellington,Nomad Gods,Objective: Atlanta,Ogre,Oil War,Outreach,PanzerBlitz,Panzer '44,Panzergruppe Guderian,Panzer Leader,The Peloponnesian War,Pharsalus,Quebec, 1759,Revolt in the East,Richthofen's War,Road to Richmond, Roark's Drift[156], Robert the Bruce[157],Runequest,The Russian Campaign,Sevastopol,1776, Shenandoah[158],The Siege of Constantinople,The Siege of Jerusalem, 70 A.D.,Sixth Fleet,Sniper!,Soldiers,Sorcerer,The Source of the Nile,Space Patrol*,Spartan,Squad Leader,Stalingrad,StarForce,Starship Troopers,StarSoldier, Stonewall[159],Strike Force One,Submarine,Superhero 2044,Swords & Sorcery,Tactics II,Tannenberg,Terrible Swift Sword,Third Reich,Thirty Years' War QuadriGame, Timbuktu[160],Torgau,Traveller, Troy[161],Tunnels & Trolls,Victory in the Pacific,Viking,Wacht am Rhein,War at Sea,War in the East,War of the Ring,WarpWar, Waterloo[162], William the Conqueror[163],Wizard,Wooden Ships & Iron Men,World War I,Yalu,Yeoman- Awesome work as always on the already-existing articles. :) If it helps you prioritize at all, you've got Unentschieden, Revolt in the East, Stonewall, and Troy (or at least games with the same names) on your 2023 to-do list. BOZ (talk) 20:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
I don't know if these were on your radar, but I found reviews for Dark December (game), Dauntless (game), and Battles of the Hundred Days so I started them, in addition to Crescendo of Doom from last week. :) BOZ (talk) 21:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I started one for French wargame
Napoléon à Austerlitzyesterday as well. :) BOZ (talk) 15:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC) - I started another French wargame
La Bataille de Valmytoday. :) BOZ (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
In case you haven't seen it before, my current huge project is User:BOZ/BTG reviews noticeboard which has its own section for Wargames. :) In particular, since you've done lots (and lots and lots!) of Simulations Publications games, I want to let you know that while I did not list all the SPI games reviewed in "Moves" (too many!) there are still some there in case you want to hit any of them, namely: Chicago, Chicago! with at least one independent review listed on that noticeboard page. :) BOZ (talk) 00:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I know you've had a chance to peruse my noticeboard for game articles worth starting, so you probably noticed that there were games there from the The Comprehensive Guide to Board Wargaming and The Complete Book of Wargames lists that I posted above. If it helps to list them out, those include Waterloo (game) by Avalon Hill, in case you have the sources to make any of those work. :) I will see what other sources come up for these other classic wargames that haven't been started already! BOZ (talk) 04:52, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have other sources for one or two of these, will post new articles in the coming weeks.Guinness323 (talk) 06:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
A warm reception
[edit]Do you have any sources to help build up the reception sections on Curse of the Mummy's Tomb (board game) and Gorkamorka? BOZ (talk) 17:44, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Partly for the sake of building up articles that need it, and partly to stave off future deletion attempts, I think it is a good idea to pick a few articles with potential here and there for a little improvement. Do you see any more sources to help build the reception section on the Origins award-winning Adventures in Middle-earth which was once nominated for AFD? Or do you see anything for other award-winners Star Wars Roleplaying Game (Fantasy Flight Games) or Settlers of America: Trails to Rails? BOZ (talk) 12:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Just got back from a short vacation, I'll look at these once I can find my desk again. Guinness323 (talk) 04:03, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, I should have said sooner, but I hope your vacation was good, and glad to have you back. :) BOZ (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, vacation was great. I've taken on a new project, I came across Nicolas Palmer's 1977 book 1977 book The Comprehensive Guide to Board Wargaming, and there are a lot of reviews in there that should alllow me to launch several dozen new articles. I'll try to work away at two or three of those per week. That should still leave me time to take on a few odds and ends you toss my way, like the two mentioned in the previous paragraph. Guinness323 (talk) 07:06, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I have definitely noticed, you are rocking and rolling on those! :) Wow, several dozen? If you also have access to The Complete Book of Wargames by Jon Freeman (1980) you'll really clean house with the reviews. Palmer also had a 1980 sequel to his book, The Best of Board Wargaming, although I don't know if that one had reviews. BOZ (talk) 12:25, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, vacation was great. I've taken on a new project, I came across Nicolas Palmer's 1977 book 1977 book The Comprehensive Guide to Board Wargaming, and there are a lot of reviews in there that should alllow me to launch several dozen new articles. I'll try to work away at two or three of those per week. That should still leave me time to take on a few odds and ends you toss my way, like the two mentioned in the previous paragraph. Guinness323 (talk) 07:06, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, I should have said sooner, but I hope your vacation was good, and glad to have you back. :) BOZ (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
See anything more for another award-winner, The Shackled City Adventure Path? BOZ (talk) 00:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nothing so far.Guinness323 (talk) 07:06, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough! How about the you'd-think-it-was-more-notable Legend of the Five Rings Roleplaying Game? BOZ (talk) 23:32, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Or another award winner,
Shadowrun Duels? BOZ (talk) 02:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC) - Or how about another award winner, Hero Realms? BOZ (talk) 02:00, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- The earliest Fighting Fantasy books should have received a good amount of coverage, but Deathtrap Dungeon in particular seems that it should have more to say in the reception section! BOZ (talk) 13:59, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Serenity Role Playing Game won both an Origins and an Ennie but that reception is almost nothing! BOZ (talk) 13:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- I've got to figure that an adventure like
The Forgotten Temple of Tharizdunwould have more coverage out there too! BOZ (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC) - It may be a little obscure, but maybe Wild West (role-playing game) has more to it out there? I suspect that Down with the King (game) may have more reviews hiding somewhere for it, and likewise with Enchanted Forest (game). BOZ (talk) 23:58, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- More Origins-winners with no reception include
Axis & Allies MiniaturesandPolarity (game), and then I would also think that the Endless Quest series would have more too? BOZ (talk) 03:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC) Mississippi Queen (board game)won a major award, and I found one review as well, but I figure there has got to be more! Necromunda is another game where I found one review and would expect to see more, and likewise for Star Hero. :) BOZ (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)- I noted on the unsourced article
Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear!that it won an award, but that's all it's got so far. Conquest of the Empire seems to me like it might have more, and so does Revolt On Antares. BOZ (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC) Railway Rivalsstrikes me as a classic that should definitely have more sources. General Quarters (rules) didn't have much going for it until I saw that it won an Origins award. Star Trek: The Next Generation Role-playing Game has an award and one review, but I think it may have more. BOZ (talk) 18:33, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
I expect that Starfleet Voyages may have some more sources? I would say the same of award winner Qin: The Warring States. The Maztica Campaign Set also seems like it has been getting more attention lately. I think Zargo's Lords might be one that you might be able to find more on. BOZ (talk) 23:59, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Also, I have to think an Origins award winning wargame like Vietnam: 1965-1975 has more sources out there, and same with Ennie award winning campaign setting Freedom City. I likewise have to believe there is a lot more out there for the Middle-earth Collectible Card Game. BOZ (talk) 12:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Just a few more of these for now, and then no more for a while. First of all, I have to think that Magic Wood is different enough that it might have more sources. Then a couple of Milton Bradley games most likely garnered some sort of attention, Broadsides and Boarding Parties and Power Barons. BOZ (talk) 00:52, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
I've got a few more here, for whenever. System 7 Napoleonics is a somewhat obscure award winner that has a couple of reviews from Dragon, but maybe your wargame sources have more for it since you last looked at this one three years ago. Similarly, I wonder if Vector 3 has another review or two? Also to toss in a more recent D&D adventure, The Dungeon of Death seems like it has potential. :) BOZ (talk) 23:50, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Trail of Cthulhuwon Ennies and I figure it's got to have more to it, and it surprises me that I haven't found more for The Temple of Elemental Evil, and likewiseB-17, Queen of the Skies! BOZ (talk) 22:47, 20 January 2023 (UTC)- Just one more for now! Deadlands: Hell on Earth has a couple of reviews on it, but I'm fairly sure this one has more out there. BOZ (talk) 22:53, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
[edit]Hi Guinness323,
As you may know, Ogre, to which you have significantly contributed, is continuing to be assessed for GA, and I have observed your changes, which are commendable and improve the article substantially.
Nevertheless, the current consensus is not established yet, but the current general view is that the article is likely B-class or C-class after those improvements. I have added some of my possible suggestions in the GA Reassessment Notes under the talk section for this article, so if you could follow those suggestions and add more factual detail to ensure that it could hopefully retain its GA status that would be great- VickKiang (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
If you'd like to start an entry on that (from List of SPI games), I'd be happy to expand it from pl:Gwiezdny kupiec. That game was (illegally?) published in late communist Poland, and became a cult classic, which is confirmed by RS which certainly makes it notable. A Polish sf writer wrote an accompanying story, and the game has even a number of modern era retro-reviews like this one (I can list more for you if you'd like to machine translate them). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:35, 24 June 2022 (UTC) Ps. Also ping User:BOZ. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
New articles for 2023
[edit]@BOZ:, just to save you the time and effort of creating stubs for the following, I will be creating these articles in 2023:
- Red Sun Rising
- Saratoga 1777
Siege of Jerusalem- Trireme
- Up Scope!
- Victory at Sea
If I can find more sources, I'll also create the following:
- Fortress Rhodesia
- 1944: The Invasion of France
- MTB
- Mukden, 1905
- Rheinbung
- U-Boat
And of course, I will always be available for help with other projects or articles. Guinness323 (talk) 19:28, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Oh OK! I thought I was actually trying to save you time and give myself something to do. :) I hope the stubs I did create helped out in some way. Is that a different game you have listed from The Siege of Jerusalem? I might focus on some of the other games listed in The Comprehensive Guide to Board Wargaming that you did not list above - the majority of games in that book now do have articles, but there are still a lot of redlinks there. :) BOZ (talk) 19:31, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Haha, just trying to save you some work. I have also been working my way through Palmer's TCGtBW, and I haven't found another source for the following, making Palmer the single source. If you come across anything, let me know:
- DMZ
- Four Roads to Moscow
- Helm's Deep
- Hitler's Last Gamble
- Jerusalem
- Marine
- NORAD
- Patton
- Rifle & Musket
- Raiders of the North
StarSoldier- Strategy I
- Spanish Civil War
- Warsaw Pact (reviews in JagdPanther #14 and Nexus #1 that I haven't been able to track down yet) Guinness323 (talk) 20:41, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Re Siege of Jerusalem, oops! Yes, that article. Duhhh! Guinness323 (talk) 20:46, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- This site does list reviews for March on India, World War II, and Wellington in the Peninsula, or at least games of the same name: [164]. Save yourself some time on StarSoldier as well. :) BOZ (talk) 21:09, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- I need a better filing system :) Guinness323 (talk) 00:36, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Panzer 44 is in this book: [165] and if one of those "World War II"s above should be a III, then that one is in the book too: [166]. BOZ (talk) 20:22, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- I need a better filing system :) Guinness323 (talk) 00:36, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- This site does list reviews for March on India, World War II, and Wellington in the Peninsula, or at least games of the same name: [164]. Save yourself some time on StarSoldier as well. :) BOZ (talk) 21:09, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Re Siege of Jerusalem, oops! Yes, that article. Duhhh! Guinness323 (talk) 20:46, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Is Overlord (wargame) the game from Conflict Games that you're looking for? :) BOZ (talk) 14:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. I've found sources for Conflict's Overlord in Freeman's Comprehensive Guide and the 1980 Guide to Simulations and Games, but if you've got others, let me know. I've been busy reading old issues of Games & Puzzles, looking for reviews, but will return to creating new articles in a few days. Guinness323 (talk) 19:30, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- I've found quite a few, and added links to the articles, or in some cases I started new articles: Battling Tops, The London Game, 4000 A.D., The Godfather Game, Haunted House, Masterpiece, Pit, Acquire, Probe, Formula 1, Hex, Master Mind, Yahtzee, A Gamut of Games, The Sigma File, TwixT, Feudal, Buccaneer, The Business Game, Ploy, Breakthru, L'Attaque, WFF 'N PROOF, Careers, Escape from Colditz, L game, Hare and Tortoise, Election, Speed Circuit, Coppit, Aggravation, Epaminondas, Press-Ups, Lasca, Organized Crime, Squatter, Bridgette, Cul-De-Sac, Conquest, Connect 4, Image, The Power Game, Ad-Lib, The Great Train Robbery, The Stock Market Game, Operation, Alexander, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Blockword, Pay-Day, Gimel, Downfall, Fortune (game), Dungeon!, Sirius, Freedom in the Galaxy, and likely other reviews that I just did not discover yet. And as always, there are many other games reviewed that do not (as far as I know) have articles yet! BOZ (talk) 19:39, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- It's not really related to Games & Puzzles, but I do want to tell you that I also restored Oh-Wah-Ree yesterday. BOZ (talk) 14:12, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- I also got
Isolation (board game)restored and it has been moved to draft space. BOZ (talk) 06:14, 2 February 2023 (UTC)- I found a couple of reviews in a French magazine for Isolation, and moved it back to article space. :) BOZ (talk) 23:09, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. I've found sources for Conflict's Overlord in Freeman's Comprehensive Guide and the 1980 Guide to Simulations and Games, but if you've got others, let me know. I've been busy reading old issues of Games & Puzzles, looking for reviews, but will return to creating new articles in a few days. Guinness323 (talk) 19:30, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
I found another review for Freedom in the Galaxy in issue 77[167] along with two wargames about China. BOZ (talk) 17:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Oh noooooo not Different Worlds![168] :( Oh well, I managed to make sure to download copies of all the issues a while ago, so I can continue with it when I'm ready to pick back up with the reviews sometime in early 2024. BOZ (talk) 13:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- :( Guinness323 (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- On the other hand, we DO have this recent addition! :) [169] BOZ (talk) 18:01, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nice!! Guinness323 (talk) 03:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- On the other hand, we DO have this recent addition! :) [169] BOZ (talk) 18:01, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- :( Guinness323 (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know if you noticed this, but it is a bit concerning, and I noticed it a few days ago. RPGGeek used to list magazine reviews for the game products, but it seems like now they don't: [170] Fortunately RPGnet still does, although they have proven less comprehensive: [171] I hope that is temporary and not a functionality intentionally removed. :( BOZ (talk) 12:39, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- Fingers crossed that it's temporary. Guinness323 (talk) 06:03, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- That big collection is probably gone for good, but I will say that I did find copies of issues #39 to #47 so at least we have those!: [172] BOZ (talk) 02:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Huzzah! Serves me right for not downloading everything when it was up. Guinness323 (talk) 02:55, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- That big collection is probably gone for good, but I will say that I did find copies of issues #39 to #47 so at least we have those!: [172] BOZ (talk) 02:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Fingers crossed that it's temporary. Guinness323 (talk) 06:03, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- In better news, someone went ahead and uploaded White Dwarf #1-100 again!: [173] :) BOZ (talk) 03:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Letting you know that the edit notice is now live - if you edit any article with refideas listed on the talk page, you will get the notification. :) BOZ (talk) 23:54, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
So, you posted this thread a little over a year ago, at which point it looked like this before I started hacking away at it: [174] with an ambitious 40 articles that you intended to start, another 14 in the maybe and another 23 as hopefuls with just one source. I am proud to report that you have started more than half of that entire list, including almost 3/4 of the ones that you were definitely planning on doing. :) This, I must say, was in addition to many other wargame and other articles you started that were not even on this list, as well as me pestering you to work on articles whose notability was challenged and/or that I just wanted to see what you could do with them. I always feel that you do some really impressive things here, and I hope you continue as long as you can and still want to. :)
True confession time, I know you started this thread to save me the work of creating stubs, but I went ahead and did several more anyway earlier this week. :) I took a look at the list that was left, and found anything that I could point at being in at least two solid sources, and made a stub for each of those. So, think of them as something you can look at whenever, but I gave a starting point for several games. BOZ (talk) 19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I started Raid! today after finding some good F&M reviews here: [175] :) BOZ (talk) 18:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Raid was reviewed on the last page of that document, along with three other games that have articles. :) BOZ (talk) 19:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nice find with "Monsters, Aliens, and Holes in the Ground" by the way. :) If you see a decent amount of coverage for a game/supplement/adventure/whatever that we don't currently have an article for, let me know and I will see what I can do! I wouldn't want to be missing out on something important that is worth covering, while our existing articles are getting built up nicely. BOZ (talk) 18:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- It was a Christmas present. I'm up to 1981, and I haven't hit anything that doesn't already have an article yet, but I expect when I hit the 1990s and 2000s, there will be more obscure products. Guinness323 (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's a cool present. :D Yep, you are definitely more likely to find gaps at that point. BOZ (talk) 20:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- It was a Christmas present. I'm up to 1981, and I haven't hit anything that doesn't already have an article yet, but I expect when I hit the 1990s and 2000s, there will be more obscure products. Guinness323 (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Nice finds
[edit]How did you stumble upon those?
FYI: https://web.archive.org/web/20220814110606/https://www.rebel.pl/rebel-times/147-grudzien-2019.html - it was live few weeks ago, sigh. The pdfs are still there. I'll add the review from #10 to that article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:57, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
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This game depicted the 1631 battle not the 1642 one. I played it as a child and remember King Gustav having a piece. He was dead by 1642 and I wouldn't recall his name if not for the game. Please read this[176] also for proof of what I am saying.Lost in Quebec (talk) 17:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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