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Military occupation
That is 2 reverts of Arab-Israeli topic material at that page. Please self-revert the last. nableezy - 16:20, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Enlighten me what are those 2 reverts; there has been only one.GreyShark (dibra) 19:48, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Judean Free Government for deletion
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Map
Hi File:Arab Spring and Regional Conflict Map.svg Yemen should be in red and Algeria and Sudan in dark blue. --Panam2014 (talk) 11:50, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- What is the topic of this map? It is titled Arab Spring, but describes events long after Arab Spring was over.GreyShark (dibra) 18:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think we should talk about Algeria and Sudan if we keep Yemen and Egypt. But if we consider the end of the Arab Spring in 2012, we should delete color both Egypt and Yemen in dark blue. In all case, the current map is wrong. --Panam2014 (talk) 20:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Certainly that map is wrong - it is mixing Arab Spring with post-2012 Aftermath developments (Arab Winter). Is its first version ok, or also incorrect?GreyShark (dibra) 14:38, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wrong because of Egypt but less incorrect. --Panam2014 (talk) 15:30, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe deleting the picture?GreyShark (dibra) 20:11, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wrong because of Egypt but less incorrect. --Panam2014 (talk) 15:30, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Certainly that map is wrong - it is mixing Arab Spring with post-2012 Aftermath developments (Arab Winter). Is its first version ok, or also incorrect?GreyShark (dibra) 14:38, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think we should talk about Algeria and Sudan if we keep Yemen and Egypt. But if we consider the end of the Arab Spring in 2012, we should delete color both Egypt and Yemen in dark blue. In all case, the current map is wrong. --Panam2014 (talk) 20:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
From the article Arab Spring and change the color of Egypt to dark blue. --Panam2014 (talk) 12:34, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
1RR and AFD evasion
This is a 1RR violation.
This is an unacceptable attempt to subvert community norms (i.e. an AFD).
Please can you self revert, stop edit warring, and move to discussion?
Since we have identified a clear disagreement here, there is no point trying to push further edits through until we have assessed community consensus. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:08, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I'm trying to help you here. Not edit-warring - aiming to change Campaignbox to Navbox. You misunderstood me my friend.GreyShark (dibra) 09:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- You normally edit in good faith, so I didn't go straight to AE. But we must discuss first. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Regarding the article you forked - it looked like you missed the Israeli Military Governorate topic dealing with the Sinai occupation. What do you think - is not this identical?GreyShark (dibra) 09:16, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- The Military Governate article covers four distinct geographical areas, and is about a system of governance.
- The occupation of Sinai article covers one geography and is about a period of history in a region.
- Onceinawhile (talk) 09:18, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well, Governorate is an entity (both government and territory). Sinai had no separate status during the occupational period - it was part of the same governorate.GreyShark (dibra) 09:19, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps. Think of it as a main article on this part of Sinai's history (Sinai_Peninsula#Israeli_invasions_and_occupation), not an article about the technical system of governance.
- Onceinawhile (talk) 09:22, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Then perhaps History of the Israeli Military Governorate in Sinai is what you mean, but i don't think it warrants its own article apart from Israeli Military Governorate and Sinai Peninsula at this point.GreyShark (dibra) 09:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Turkish occupation of Cyprus redirects to North Cyprus (geopolitical entity - Turkish protectorate), why do you think Israeli occupation of Sinai shouldn't redirect to Israeli Military Governorate? Do you think Turkish occupation of Cyprus should exist in addition to Northern Cyprus article?GreyShark (dibra) 09:31, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Then perhaps History of the Israeli Military Governorate in Sinai is what you mean, but i don't think it warrants its own article apart from Israeli Military Governorate and Sinai Peninsula at this point.GreyShark (dibra) 09:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well, Governorate is an entity (both government and territory). Sinai had no separate status during the occupational period - it was part of the same governorate.GreyShark (dibra) 09:19, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Please self-revert the 1RR. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:23, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- The Cyprus examples refer to the same geographic area. The Sinai occupation is specific. Feel free to start an AFD. Onceinawhile (talk) 13:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Regarding 1RR - i had aimed to change the title to Navbox, but Zero has undone this edit already (right?). This looks like 1RR of course, but his revert was in the middle of the process, which yourself found "interesting". I'm not continuing trying to assist on this if you are considering this warring. Take into account my vase experience in Middle Eastern occupation-related issues, such as Turkish occupation of Northern Syria, Turkish occupation of Cyprus, Syrian occupation of Lebanon, Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon.GreyShark (dibra) 09:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Portal:Mandatory Palestine
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:People from the State of Palestine
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Template:Syrian Civil War infobox
Only one legitimate government which recognized by the UN and several other opposition government not recognized by the UN. But all they indicated in this article. Turkish backed Interim Government (Syrian opposition) which headquarters are located in the city of Azaz and pro-HTS the Syrian Salvation Government which headquarters are located in the city of Idlib. Kurdish forces not formed any alternative government. They formed autonomous Administration of NE Syria (NES), is a de facto autonomous region in northeastern Syria. It consists of self-governing sub-regions in the areas of Afrin, Jazira, Euphrates, Raqqa, Tabqa, Manbij and Deir Ez-Zor. So stop making unwarranted and biased changes.Mehmedsons (talk) 15:43, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, I see you have the other vision for this article but I also have the other vision for this article. So I offer you a compromise solution. For now at this article noted the government which recognized by the UN and several other alternative / opposition governments. As I think this is the best possible of compromise solution.Mehmedsons (talk) 16:21, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Mehmedsons: I don't mind what you think is legitimate in Syria or not - there is one government for Syrian Arab Republic, two governments by Syrian opposition (one being Turkish proxy and another more or less independent) and one government by Rojava - all are "Syrias" in a way. My point is that governments don't fight, but military forces belonging to the relevant political structures; it is Syrian Armed Forces of the Syrian Arab Republic fighting against the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham of the Syrian opposition in Idlib and the Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army+Syrian Liberation Front of the Syrian opposition in Aleppo. Governments don't fight - they order the military to fight.GreyShark (dibra) 13:16, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Syrian government (disambiguation) for deletion
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Inappropriate categorisation
Hello Greyshark. Could you please stop moving articles on Israeli villages into Category:Jews and Judaism in Czechoslovakia as these topics are not "in Czechoslovakia". Please could you undo all the ones you've already added to it. Thanks, Number 57 11:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Ok to replace it with category:Czechoslovakian Jews, or perhaps a more specific category:Czechoslovakian Jews in Israel?GreyShark (dibra) 12:30, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Either is ok, but what was wrong with the diaspora categories? Number 57 13:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Most of them are not about European diaspora; found only a few having to do with actual European diaspora issues and kept those as genuine. Had some complex issues - like Templers (religious believers), who were a German diaspora, but were expelled by the British prior to establishment of Israel, so i guess the best category for them is category:German diaspora in Mandatory Palestine (not Israel).GreyShark (dibra) 12:31, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Either is ok, but what was wrong with the diaspora categories? Number 57 13:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Ok to replace it with category:Czechoslovakian Jews, or perhaps a more specific category:Czechoslovakian Jews in Israel?GreyShark (dibra) 12:30, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
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racist vandalism
You have gone on a spree of racist vandalism promoting a highly specific and highly divisive ideological viewpoint, without any discussion with others whatsoever. I would suggest that this is an issue that be publicly discussed on Wikipedia before you rewrite all the Jewish-related articles to reflect your atavistic racial ideology. Frankly, it's an exclusionary, separatist worldview which is deeply offensive and disagreeable to many people, Jewish and non-Jewish, and it erases the cultural and national identities of millions of Jewish people who identify in ways you are writing out of view. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:00, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- If you want to invest time into creating "Russian-Jewish diaspora", "German-Jewish diaspora" type categories, I think that would be a reasonable compromise. But simply invalidating and erasing the identities of diasporic Jews because you have a different opinion on Jewish identity is taking it too far. Be well. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:06, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, on second glance, it seems that *I myself* have already created the :Category:Russian-Jewish diaspora category. Let's try to work this out without the erasure of diaspora identities. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:06, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- There is Russian diaspora and there is Jewish diaspora as separate concepts, never heard of Russian-Jewish diaspora. While searching Google, there doesn't seem to be any weight for this concept either. This source uses the term "Russian-speaking Jewish diaspora", but refers to it as part of the general Jewish diaspora (not Russian diaspora), which of course speaks various languages.GreyShark (dibra) 10:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- As an example, in the city of Baltimore, the Jewish community had a historical split between German Jews and Russian Jews. Many German Jews and Russian Jews had strong German-Jewish and Russian-Jewish cultural identities, respectively. This was the case in many places in the US and has existed in other countries as well (such as Germany). There have been and still are distinct "German Jewish" and "Russian Jewish" diaspora communities and diaspora communities. There are many people and many communities where a strong sense of, I suppose you could say "Jewish sub-ethnicity"(?) exists. You not having heard of it (or you disapproving of it) doesn't negate the existence of these diaspora identities. I just Googled "Russian-Jewish diaspora" and there are multiple sources. The source that you mention? It specifically uses the language "The Russian Jewish Diaspora Online", "RUSSIAN-JEWISH MIGRANTS IN GERMANY", and "Russian-Jewish émigrés". Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 11:13, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- Russian-Jewish migrants and Russian-Jewish emigres is not the same as Russian-Jewish diaspora.GreyShark (dibra) 11:25, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- Again, your own source uses the term "Russian Jewish Diaspora" and there are other sources that use the terminology as well. What, exactly, is your distinction between "Russian-Jewish diaspora" and "Russian-Jewish immigrants"? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 16:19, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
- Russian-Jewish migrants and Russian-Jewish emigres is not the same as Russian-Jewish diaspora.GreyShark (dibra) 11:25, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- As an example, in the city of Baltimore, the Jewish community had a historical split between German Jews and Russian Jews. Many German Jews and Russian Jews had strong German-Jewish and Russian-Jewish cultural identities, respectively. This was the case in many places in the US and has existed in other countries as well (such as Germany). There have been and still are distinct "German Jewish" and "Russian Jewish" diaspora communities and diaspora communities. There are many people and many communities where a strong sense of, I suppose you could say "Jewish sub-ethnicity"(?) exists. You not having heard of it (or you disapproving of it) doesn't negate the existence of these diaspora identities. I just Googled "Russian-Jewish diaspora" and there are multiple sources. The source that you mention? It specifically uses the language "The Russian Jewish Diaspora Online", "RUSSIAN-JEWISH MIGRANTS IN GERMANY", and "Russian-Jewish émigrés". Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 11:13, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- There is Russian diaspora and there is Jewish diaspora as separate concepts, never heard of Russian-Jewish diaspora. While searching Google, there doesn't seem to be any weight for this concept either. This source uses the term "Russian-speaking Jewish diaspora", but refers to it as part of the general Jewish diaspora (not Russian diaspora), which of course speaks various languages.GreyShark (dibra) 10:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1841 establishments in Ottoman Syria
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Ancient synagogues
You recently removed a few synagogues from Ancient synagogues in Palestine. I have a few questions regartding those edits:
- Why did you remove Susya? It seems to be in the West Bank.
- Gamla and Umm el Kanatir are now neither on Ancient synagogues in Palestine nor on Ancient synagogues in Israel. That leaves them without a mention in an article. What do you propose to do about that? Debresser (talk) 20:11, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- Susya indeed removed by mistake, confused it Susita. Regarding Golan Heights synagogues - those certainly do not belong to Palestine; Maybe we can create Ancient synagogues in the Golan?GreyShark (dibra) 05:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Why not have only Ancient Synagogues in the Levant (article as well as cat)? It would save a lot of unnecessarily nonsense. Zerotalk 12:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Then we'd need to add Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, possibly Iran too. See Levant. Perhaps Ancient Synagogues in the Land of Israel?
- In the mean time I'd propose to add the Golan synagogues to Israel. Palestine it is surely isn't, and at least according to Israel it is. We could add a declaimer. Debresser (talk) 16:08, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe you meant Iraq (Iran is never considered in the Levant). As for the Golan, Greyshark09 no doubt noticed that both the sources removed with Gamla stated Palestine explicitly. The fact is that the borders of Palestine-the-Region have never been precisely defined and Golan has at times been considered part. My suggestion is intended to avoid arguments about such issues. More precisely, I suggest we adopt the "narrow definition" from Levant and inside the article indicate which modern boundaries the sites now sit within. Zerotalk 19:55, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I meant Iraq.
- If the sources use Palestine, and the article indeed specifies that the reference is to the region, then perhaps these two entries should simply be restored to the Ancient synagogues in Palestine page, and that's it. Debresser (talk) 15:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe you meant Iraq (Iran is never considered in the Levant). As for the Golan, Greyshark09 no doubt noticed that both the sources removed with Gamla stated Palestine explicitly. The fact is that the borders of Palestine-the-Region have never been precisely defined and Golan has at times been considered part. My suggestion is intended to avoid arguments about such issues. More precisely, I suggest we adopt the "narrow definition" from Levant and inside the article indicate which modern boundaries the sites now sit within. Zerotalk 19:55, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Why not have only Ancient Synagogues in the Levant (article as well as cat)? It would save a lot of unnecessarily nonsense. Zerotalk 12:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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What are you doing? El_C 06:36, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- The page is not reasonably about Arab-Israeli conflict topic and has minor reference to it; if sanctioned by conflict or politics to this specific page - then all Middle Eastern sanctions can apply WP:GS/78IRP, WP:GS/SCW&ISIL, WP:ARB911. Why do you choose only Arab-Israeli sanctions? there has been no edit warring related to it on the page.GreyShark (dibra) 06:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- You are not permitted to revert an admin who is enforcing an Arbitration Committee's Discretionary Sansctions. I have encountered disruption on that article, extended-confirmed protected it, added an edit notice, and have logged my decision at the Arbitration enforcement log. You are welcome to appeal that decision in any forum you see fit, but you do not get to undo it. El_C 06:52, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Have not noticed you are an admin. Had indeed checked you page and couldn't see it anywhere. Apologies.GreyShark (dibra) 07:02, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Anyway, disruption that is just vandalism by IP. I think it is too much to tag every article including Israel or Palestine or Arab League with ARBPIA sanctions.GreyShark (dibra) 07:04, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- No worries. Anyway, that is exactly what ARBPIA mandates. New users are not permitted to edit these topics. The slightest disruption results in the application of ARBPIA DS — in the past, we even preemptively did this, without there being any disruption (since that is what the rules actually mandate), but lately we reserve that application to there being some form of (ARBPIA-related) disruption in the (ARBPIA-related) article. At the event, ARBPIA itself is being reevaluated at ARCA, a process which you are welcome to participate in. El_C 07:13, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Tagging ARBPIA every article including the words "Israel", "Palestine" or "Arab" is pretty much nonsense. How do you know the deletion or substitution of "Israel" word in the article has to do with Israeli-Palestinian conflict and not say with Antisemitism, Iran-Israel conflict or simple vandalism? Is this a guess? In many cases Israel-related disruptions have to do with the Iran-Israel proxy conflict topic which is now subject to separate sanctions (WP:GS/SCW&ISIL or WP:GS/78IRP), but some editors and admins automatically link it with the largely finished and outdated Arab-Israeli conflict, which meanwhile shifted to Israeli–Arab states alliance against Iran (alliance, not conflict). Just look at this edit by IP user adding ARBPIA Arab-Israeli conflict sanctions notice on talk:Israeli–Arab states alliance against Iran - this is just plain ridiculous. Anyway it seems the ARCA discussion seems to be closed. GreyShark (dibra) 10:21, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- No worries. Anyway, that is exactly what ARBPIA mandates. New users are not permitted to edit these topics. The slightest disruption results in the application of ARBPIA DS — in the past, we even preemptively did this, without there being any disruption (since that is what the rules actually mandate), but lately we reserve that application to there being some form of (ARBPIA-related) disruption in the (ARBPIA-related) article. At the event, ARBPIA itself is being reevaluated at ARCA, a process which you are welcome to participate in. El_C 07:13, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- You are not permitted to revert an admin who is enforcing an Arbitration Committee's Discretionary Sansctions. I have encountered disruption on that article, extended-confirmed protected it, added an edit notice, and have logged my decision at the Arbitration enforcement log. You are welcome to appeal that decision in any forum you see fit, but you do not get to undo it. El_C 06:52, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Here is another confusion case - Israeli attack on pro-Iranian militias in Iraq tagged as ARBPIA by user:Bradv, even though Israel is acting in coalition with Arab states against Iran. This is a clear case of Iranian politics sanctions, nothing to do with ARBPIA. There is a huge confusion between the past Arab-Israeli conflict and currently ongoing Israeli+Arab alliance conflict against Iran.GreyShark (dibra) 14:29, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- That's clearly in the realm of ARBPIA. The key to understanding is "pro-Iranian militias". A militia composed of Arabs doesn't become Iranian because it is "pro-Iranian" or "Iran-backed". Even those descriptions of the militias are out of the mouths of US and Israeli spokespeople, which shouldn't be our criterion for classification. An argument symmetrical to yours would be that a battle between Israel and some Arab force isn't under ARBPIA because Israel is "US-backed". Zerotalk 14:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Zero, you are stalking my page. Shall i complain for harassment?GreyShark (dibra) 14:50, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- And here's me thinking that you would welcome a visit from your hero. But if you want to argue somewhere that 3 short messages in 5.5 years is harassment, be my guest. Zerotalk 15:51, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- You are Zero, not Hero. ;-) Debresser (talk) 20:23, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- And here's me thinking that you would welcome a visit from your hero. But if you want to argue somewhere that 3 short messages in 5.5 years is harassment, be my guest. Zerotalk 15:51, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- Zero, you are stalking my page. Shall i complain for harassment?GreyShark (dibra) 14:50, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
- That's clearly in the realm of ARBPIA. The key to understanding is "pro-Iranian militias". A militia composed of Arabs doesn't become Iranian because it is "pro-Iranian" or "Iran-backed". Even those descriptions of the militias are out of the mouths of US and Israeli spokespeople, which shouldn't be our criterion for classification. An argument symmetrical to yours would be that a battle between Israel and some Arab force isn't under ARBPIA because Israel is "US-backed". Zerotalk 14:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
The ARCA was closed by a motion to formulate ARBPIA4, so you can present your concerns during that process. El_C 19:40, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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MfD nomination of Portal:Syrian Civil War
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Edit warring
You have reverted my cited edit two times. On the second time you did not give an edit summary [1], any further reverts without explanation will force me to contact an administrator to intervene. 1.20.99.89 (talk) 07:19, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Dubious tag
Hi Greyshark! With this edit, you added the dubious tag to a line in the intro to the article Mizrahi Jews. While it does indeed seem dubious, and there is no indication that the source says what the statement purports it to say, and which will require verification, I cannot tell to which talkpage conversation to link the dubious tag. The norm when using Template:Dubious is to use it in the form {{dubious|talk section name}}
where talk section name
is the actual section on the article’s talkpage where you have begun a discussion on the matter and laid out your concerns so that they may be dealt with. I tried to find, via the talkpage history, to which talkpage discussion you would have intended the link to go, but could not find any related discussion there that you edited at around that time. Would you please create a new discussion on the talkpage outlining your concerns with the statement and then link the dubious tag in the article to it using {{dubious|talk section name}}
? Thanks! — SpikeToronto 00:05, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing out. Will take a look.GreyShark (dibra) 07:30, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of 2015–19 Iraqi protests
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Al Qaeda in Yemen
Hello. I saw your edits on Al Qaeda insurgency in Yemen. You removed a lot of battles from the template as well as indicated that the insurgency ended in 2011. Al Qaeda is pretty much still in Yemen and fighting all sides, including the US, Houthis, and Saudi led coalition. Just wanted to ask you what's your reasoning behind your last major edits. Thanks you. Graull (talk) 18:23, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- It is already explained in the article talk page. I have a question, how were you able to add that content to the article without style mistakes even though you were only 3 minutes old? When did you have time to read Wikipedia policies and guidelines?.--SharabSalam (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- See talk:al-Qaeda insurgency in Yemen.GreyShark (dibra) 06:00, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
AE
Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Greyshark09. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- That is pathetic. Better you find some productive job.GreyShark (dibra) 07:35, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1150s establishments in Outremer
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:12th century in Outremer
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Second Intifada
Hello. I don't know if you realize that many articles in ARBPIA have links to Second Intifada, and this redirect you made ruins that link. I ask you to please revert yourself. Thanks.--Peditodelculo (talk) 17:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- I had the impression the wlinks have already been updated. Will check it.GreyShark (dibra) 06:55, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Category:Iranian proxy groups has been nominated for discussion
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Not writing an edit summary
I can't help to notice that you don't write any edit summary while editing. This seems a bit annoying because it is hard for someone to understand what are the changes that you made in the article.--SharabSalam (talk) 07:22, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the notice, will put attention to that.GreyShark (dibra) 07:25, 17 November 2019 (UTC)