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Copyright issues

It has been brought to my attention that large portions of your recent contributions to the Thebes, Egypt article have been copied from other web sites. This constitutes copyright violation, and you are hereby requested to stop and discuss the issue. Favonian (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please respond, or I'll be forced to block you and revert your edits to the article! Favonian (talk) 14:58, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I understood the Terms of Use. I want to rectify my mistake. Tell me more about using contents of other websites. Please.

You'll need to study Wikipedia:Copyrights, which was linked to in the message you received above on January 8. Short version: you are not allowed to copy! Favonian (talk) 15:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you sir. Rephrasing and citing more reliable sources can correct it? GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 15:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I want to thank you and help!

Hello GiovanniMartin16, first of all, I would like to thank you for your contributions to wikipedia! Thebes does need to be improved and you have done a nice job of it so far. Two issues have appeared though and I would like to help you naviguate through these: 1) As Favonian has written, it is necessary not to copy and paste your sources but rather rephrase, rewrite, when you edit an article to avoid copyright infringements. 2) The sources you used are not really reliable being mostly online website maintained by private individuals are companies. However I can help you with this, by providing you with pdf books on the subject and other academic sources (books, articles) of which there are in fact so many on the web! I know that editing wikipedia is difficult, especially in the beginning, but through perseverance, you will write articles read by tens of thousands of people: the article on Thebes is seen by c. 12000 people/month see here, that is roughly 400 people a day reading what you wrote! Let me know if I can help you improve your edits and wikipedia as a whole! Iry-Hor (talk) 15:50, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you sir. I hope to be able to correct it ASAP. GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 16:20, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I can send you the pdf of the 3rd volume of Redford's Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt, which has several articles on Thebes, its necropolis etc. spanning a good dozen of pages. This would be an excellent source about Thebes, just let me know if you are interested. Iry-Hor (talk) 16:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will be glad to dig into it. Thank you.GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 00:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have just downloaded the pdf of Margaret Bunson's Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt.GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 01:25, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ok so I have uploaded the following files for you on my google drive: the three volumes of Redford's Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt, Ian Shaw's Oxford History of Ancient Egypt, Dodson and Hilton The complete royal families of Ancient Egypt, Michael Rice's Who is who in Ancient Egypt, Nicolas Grimal's History of Ancient Egypt and Kathryn Bard's Encyclopedia of the archaeology of Ancient Egypt. I just need your email address to send you the links from which you can download these pdfs (these are large files so make sure to have a good internet access or lots of time when you download). Also Bunson's encyclopedia is okay but not great, she does a number of approximations and statements that aren't 100% correct, but it is already much better than online websites! Iry-Hor (talk) 08:17, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you sir! Like you, I am an enthusiast of ancient Egyptian history and I want its contents here interesting and reliable for all Wikipedia readers. Here is my email address: giovannimartin2012@gmail.com. GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 08:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's it, I have shared the pdf with you, let me know if this does not work or if you have any problem retrieving them. Altogether that's a few thousand pages on Ancient Egypt! I have some more sources if needed and plenty to be found on the web, but generally try to cite only books and journal articles by Egyptologists / archaeologists etc. as these are the most reliable sources! Iry-Hor (talk) 10:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've already downloaded some of your pdfs. Didn't have problem retrieving them. Thanks! GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 10:43, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thebes, Egypt

Hello GiovanniMartin16: Tutankhamun and his return to Thebes. There is enough evidence that Tutankhamun went back to Memphis. Memphis was most likely even in the early 18th Dynasty the political capital. Thebes was more the second capital and religious center. For Tutankhamun and Memphis perhaps look here: Memphis,_Egypt#New_Kingdom. I cited the Oxford history of Ancient Egypt; you cite the Guardian. I am afraid that the latter is certainly not a good source for detailed information on Ancient History. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted back your edit. There must be a reason why Horemheb built a tomb in Saqqara.GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 04:37, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

thanks! not only Horemhab built a tomb at Saqqara; the whole court of Tutankhamun was buried there. Thebes remained a religious center, but the political capital remained in the North. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 05:48, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello GiovanniMartin16, about your latest edit on the page, just be careful to not confuse or merge two different Asiatic occupations of the Nile Delta during these times:

the Asiatic people who settled in eastern Nile Delta since the late 12th Dynasty, and who later established the 14th Dynasty;
the true Hyksos, Asiatic people who came later and likely wiped out the 14th Dynasty, founded the 15th Dynasty and took over all Lower Egypt and beyond. Khruner (talk) 13:25, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alright sir, I recently made the distinction between the two immigrant peoples from Western Asia. Though, some references do not distinguish the two and call them both Hyksos. GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 16:25, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's a relatively recent distinction, I will provide some extra sources when I have some spare time. Cheers, Khruner (talk) 17:00, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

another point: You mentioned that Strabo said the town was under the Roman almost empty. That is rather strange, as there is much evidence that Thebes still flourished under the Romans. Some legions were even stationed here (compare Legio III Cyrenaica) and the temple at Luxor was later turned into a Legion's quarter, with famous Roman paintings ([[1]]). I do not have good books here, to rewrite that on my own. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 09:47, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I cited more reliable references and was able to create a new section: Roman Period. What do you think sir? GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 12:30, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

yes, perfect, much better. I will look if i can find more; but the Roman period is not really my thing. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 12:56, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I just found this: It is a book on Roman Egypt. The whole chapter on Roman Thebes is freely available on googlebooks. That should help a lot. -- Udimu (talk) 13:09, 27 February 2016 (UTC) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4wPAmml1G9sC&pg=PA185&lpg=PA185&dq=roman+thebes&source=bl&ots=YtZlxY2Vu6&sig=gizb2BXTeSZlqu6PfwqpHvZePjk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM8JC4gZjLAhUIUBQKHaQ6BHEQ6AEIRDAH#v=onepage&q=roman%20thebes&f=false[reply]

Thanks!GiovanniMartin16 (talk) 14:25, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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