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Proposed deletion of Three Rooms Press

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I have removed the proposed deletion notice. See comments copied here from the article's talk page:

Three Rooms Press is notable (1) because it has published several notable individuals listed in first paragraph of section titled "Publication History." Several of the citations include news articles announcing these publications as well as establishing the notability of the authors, (2) one of the two annuals of the press is now archived in the Museum of Modern Art Periodical and Recording Libraries. A link to MoMA archive catalog cited. GetDaFacts (talk) 05:19, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

In short, notability is not inherited; publishing the works of notable authors doesn't make the publisher notable. Having their works archived in this or that library likewise is not an indication of notability. Instead, we need significant third-party coverage, such as articles about the publisher in newspapers or reputable trade magazines. I see nothing of that kind. Huon (talk) 05:32, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry but I have to respectfully disagree. Publishers are recognized by the quality of the authors they publish. The fame of the author is often a criteria for trade book publication. Publishers achieve recognition by positive book reviews. Book reviews have been cited in the Book Review section.

Ultimately best seller status and national book awards that promote the notability of a publisher. Not articles about the publisher but articles about their authors are what established public recognition for a publishing house.

Also, The Museum of Modern Art is not just any library. MoMA's decision to include every edition of Maintenant is major.

If we were talking widget-factory then I would agree with you. An innovative process to produce the widget written up in a trade journal would be a good criteria for notability.

GetDaFacts (talk) 06:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

It's not just me you disagree with, but Wikipedia's notability guidelines, especially WP:CORP and WP:INHERITORG. Huon (talk) 06:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Also I reviewed at at least 30 articles about small literary presses in wiki before developing my article for Three Rooms Press. None or the articles I reviewed cited articles about the publisher. The main citation in all the articles I reviewed was the press website. Typically a listing of authors and titles follow a brief description of the press. In a few cases book awards are included -- note these are not awards recognizing the publisher these are awards recognizing a title published.

If the only valid criteria for a publishers notability is an article about the publisher then many of the articles now included in wikipedia would need to be deleted. I would like to invite feedback from the authors of other small press wiki articles. Constructive suggestions to improve the article are welcome.

GetDaFacts (talk) 07:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

please see to wiki's notability criteria for creative professionals, a list which includes editors. this small literary press is its two co-editors. GetDaFacts (talk) 07:33, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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Nomination of Three Rooms Press for deletion

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