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Vaseline

Why did you erase my question about vaseline? What was wrong with it. Did not I have the right to ask ? [1] Waiting for your explanations... --Geographyfanatic (talk) 19:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is totally bizarre. I've looked at that dif several times now and tried to work out how that happened. I assure you it was not my intention to delete your question. If I want to remove material from the page I do so either by striking out or by moving it to another page along with a link to that page. I made several edits in that dif, but I can't work out how your question was deleted because it's not even close to anything I was writing that I might have changed my mind about. Bizarre! My sincere apologies. You'll note I have now given a response to your second attempt at the question. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 23:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}}

I was just wondering if someone could help me figure out how to make a Labeled Map. I have the contour maps that I can use but I dont know how to put labels that will be clickable.Like this one

. Any ideas?

That would have taken a very patient person a long time to perfect, but here's the code:

{{Image label begin|image=Asie.svg|width={{{width|650}}}|float={{{float|none}}}}} {{Image label small|x=0.55|y=0.21|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Russia|Russia]]}}  {{Image label small|x=0.63|y=0.33|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Mongolia|Mongolia]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.68|y=0.45|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[People's Republic of China|China]]}} {{Image label small|x=1.05|y=0.44|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Japan|Japan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.86|y=0.43|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[South Korea|South Korea]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.86|y=0.41|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[North Korea|North Korea]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.925|y=0.56|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Taiwan|Taiwan]]}}  {{Image label small|x=0.52|y=0.58|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[India|India]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.41|y=0.51|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Pakistan|Pakistan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.55|y=0.515|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Nepal|Nepal]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.60|y=0.525|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Bhutan|Bhutan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.6|y=0.55|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Bangladesh|Bangladesh]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.462|y=0.72|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Maldives|Maldives]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.57|y=0.72|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Sri Lanka|Sri Lanka]]}}  {{Image label small|x=0.8|y=0.63|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Vietnam|Vietnam]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.72|y=0.645|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Thailand|Thailand]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.74|y=0.61|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Laos|Laos]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.75|y=0.675|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Cambodia|Cambodia]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.67|y=0.59|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Burma|Burma]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.775|y=0.76|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Malaysia|Malaysia]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.85|y=0.74|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Brunei|Brunei]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.775|y=0.775|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Singapore|Singapore]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.975|y=0.67|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Philippines|Philippines]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.82|y=0.86|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Indonesia|Indonesia]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.93|y=0.92|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[East Timor|East Timor]]}}  {{Image label small|x=0.36|y=0.32|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Kazakhstan|Kazakhstan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.32|y=0.365|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Uzbekistan|Uzbekistan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.43|y=0.38|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Kyrgyzstan|Kyrgyzstan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.43|y=0.41|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Tajikistan|Tajikistan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.32|y=0.41|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Turkmenistan|Turkmenistan]]}}  {{Image label small|x=0.08|y=0.54|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Egypt|Egypt]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.37|y=0.47|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Afghanistan|Afghanistan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.305|y=0.47|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Iran|Iran]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.185|y=0.575|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Saudi Arabia|Saudi Arabia]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.335|y=0.6|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Oman|Oman]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.24|y=0.65|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Yemen|Yemen]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.32|y=0.58|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[UAE|UAE]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.272|y=0.56|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Qatar|Qat.]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.272|y=0.54|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Bahrain|Bah.]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.258|y=0.52|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Kuwait|Kuw.]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.21|y=0.48|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Iraq|Iraq]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.15|y=0.5|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Jordan|Jordan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.12|y=0.48|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Israel|Isr.]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.15|y=0.45|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Syria|Syria]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.15|y=0.47|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Lebanon|Leban.]]}}  {{Image label small|x=0.13|y=0.40|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Turkey|Turkey]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.095|y=0.465|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Cyprus|Cyp.]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.20|y=0.38|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Georgia (country)|Georgia]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.20|y=0.40|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Azerbaijan|Azerbaijan]]}} {{Image label small|x=0.20|y=0.42|scale={{{width|500}}}|text=[[Armenia|Armenia]]}}    {{Image label end}}<noinclude> {{Documentation, template|Template:Image label begin/doc}} </noinclude>

...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 00:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The EU Mediation

When making the decision about this painful issue, please consider that even proponents of the EU think it is a Unique organization and there is no other like it. Listing it with other monetary unions will not change anything.If the EU is actually Sui Generis and unique ( and I got some disgusting personal attacks for using this term "too often") how can it be compared to something else? If it is the only "of its kind" why should it be listed with things that are NOT "of its kind"..Why wont we make a separate chart and put it all alone because it is UNIQUE. If it is not unique then why are they saying that it is unique. That is what I am talking about and no one seems to understand. I was just wondering what was your opinion on this point of view?--Geographyfanatic (talk) 14:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll not be making any decisions. I'll be helping you guys reach an agreement. As this has been developing I have, of course, had my own opinions - but these have in fact changed, and quite possibly will change again. I will make suggestions, but these suggestions will not come from my opinions but from ideas raised by the discussions. I am not keen at any stage in intruding my own views. This is not a case of persuading me, but of reaching agreement with those most involved in editing the article. What I am keen on is that all avenues are fully explored - even those which may initially seem daft. And that when all avenues have been explored the best solution will come forward. At the moment there is still a fair degree of arguing points by some of those involved rather than engaging in the questions I have set. The idea of the questions is to break out of the vicious cycle, and to reappriase the situation; to reach common grounds of agreement from which we can start to build consensus. I'd like to see more people address the questions so we build on that platform - but human nature being what it is, people will sometimes simply want to keep hammering away at familiar bones of contention than to address their mind to something new. It's not a complaint - we all do it. It's just accepting reality.

As for the notion that the EU is unique, that works both ways. It can be included because it is unique, and it can be excluded because it is unique.

We'll see how the discussion develops. SilkTork *^YES! 15:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not happy with the EU mediation going on. Progress is not being made, and too many of the comments left by those who agree with me are IPs. Why can't these people sign with real accounts? If you have some time, I would appreciate your comments on the questions posed under mediation discussion. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^TALK 17:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the invite to form an account. I hope you all resolve the shameless attack on the credibility of wikipedia as an information source. As for me, I will stick strong and faithful to the definition of the word "country" to push away personal political agenda by a lot of PRO-EU people here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.128.34.205 (talk) 14:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Informal reprimand

I note that you have approached the IP account User:202.128.34.205. It is clear from the wording of your invitation that you are looking for support for your views rather than the best solution for the article in question. Be advised this is considered Wikipedia:Canvassing, which is considered disruptive. Added to which the IP account you approached is one whose sole contributions to Wikipedia have been disruptive, and which may be the IP account of a person who is already engaged in this dispute under a registered account - this would be considered Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. If you wish to invite anyone else to this discussion, it would be better to come via me. It would be best, in fact, if you consulted with me about any other action you wish to take in this case which involves anything other than editing the talkpage. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 22:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing

I do understand what you meant. and thank you for informing me but I have to tell you that I did not do it with bad intentions as I just tried to inform the owner of that IP that his/her actions were not favorable and instead of vandalizing the article, he/she could enter the discussion and communicate his ideas with others. Also, concerning your worries about sockpuppetry: if you believe that that is the case, instead of speculating, I would love if the IP would be checked and adequate actions taken if proved to be necessary.Regards, --Geographyfanatic (talk) 22:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The most likely action that would be taken for a sockpuppet IP account engaged in a 3 revert edit war would be an initial 24 block to prevent further disruption, a sockpuppet tag placed on the accounts and a warning. If disruption continued after the block then the IP account might be permanently blocked. There may even be blocking consequences for the puppet-master account depending upon the severity of the disruption. At this stage the IP account is idle so there is no need for action. The main thrust of administrative actions on Wikipedia are to minimise disruption - if there is no current disruption there is no pressing need for action.

I read what you said to the IP account and much of what you said was commendable - however a gentle warning was in order, as you understand, otherwise your opponents might have complained. Anyway, no worries! I might pull together some thoughts on a suggested solution to the EU issue within the nest 48 hours. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 07:30, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EU map

I just looked at the EU map [2] you made the other day and there are two errors - you have Iceland as a member of the EU. You also have Svalbard, though it is part of Norway and therefore not a member. Canada Jack (talk) 23:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, i fixed my mistake. Thanks :) Izmir lee (talk) 06:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possible solution

Rank	Country	GDP (millions of USD)
1	United States	13,843,825
2	Japan	4,383,762
3	Germany	3,322,147
4	China	3,250,827
5	United Kingdom	2,772,570
6	France	2,560,255
7	Italy	2,104,666
8	Spain	1,438,959
9	Canada	1,432,140
10	Brazil	1,313,590
11	Russia	1,289,582

Total	World	54,311,608
Total	European Union	16,830,100

europe map

sorry about that, im fixing it as we speak Ijanderson977 (talk) 20:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, but i'll just do it as it is. I just wanted to make the map bigger and include countries further east which are alos claased as europe these days ;) Ijanderson977 (talk) 20:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much ;). I just need to finish the seas. Once again thank you, thats my first barnstar ;) Ijanderson977 (talk) 22:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maps and Userboxes

I see your interested in maps, if you have any requests, i will make some for you. Also if you want any userboxes created, i'll create some of them for you too ;) Ijanderson977 (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had never heard of the Celtic Sea before, i just assumed it was another name for the Irish sea. I'll fix that then. So just let me know when you need a map creating ;) Ijanderson977 (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The existing charts are entirely wrong

The difference in data is enormous. Only the top several countries' gdps are accurate. the smaller ones were made up I believe. Just take a look at CIA. [3] and then look at the CIA chart on the page, countries like Ukraine, Latvia, Georgia, Ireland,..... It is TOTALLY made up. Its from 2007 data, both on the real website and wikipedia chart as well. The difference is enormous.These whole page needs to be deleted and remade.I will have to look at World Bank too--Geographyfanatic (talk) 01:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the few example of differences

Ukraine Real -320,100,000,000 Chart says - 131,200,000,000
Ireland Real - 185,500,000,000, chart says - 253,300,000,000
Latvia Real - 39,730,000,000, chart says - 27,000,000,000
Georgia Real - 20,500,000,000, chart says -9,553,000,000

I can go on forever and ever and ever. Countries that someone thought were inferior, they just made up numbers for them or did not update for years. This is outrageous. The entire list needs to be remade and these people are pushing some EU agenda in here. It is shameful, its indeed and sectional fight on wikipedia.I would love if you would pay serious attention to this. Regards--Geographyfanatic (talk) 01:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Ah, you've just discovered the true nature of Wikipedia. It depends on the vigilance and work of everyone. It is all our collective responsibility. When you discover something inaccurate in Wikipedia you can make an IMMEDIATE adjustment. That's the beauty, power and weakness of Wikipedia. If you read in a normal encyclopedia data that is wrong, you can't change it. You can write to the publisher and ask for the information to be corrected in the next issue - but there's no guarantee that your letter will be read, or even that there will be a next edition, and even if your letter was read and acted upon, it might be years before a new edition came out. With Wikipedia you can make that correction right now, without asking anyone's permission. Go ahead and do it. SilkTork *^YES! 01:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

problem is not in that. The problem is that people ( you know who I mean by that)dont see the real problems. How many times they provided the VERY same website. they did not look at the data even once. This is not the case with just several countries. MOST of them are wrong and I have to ask you to freeze the discussion for now.This is not something that should be ignored just like you are asking me to ignore it . Those people are blinded, You think the EU location is more important at this point? I can not ignore this problem the way you are asking me to ignore it.This is not something minor. I bet they Knew it, and I bet they did not even bother to change it.--Geographyfanatic (talk) 02:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly believe that I will not be able to participate in this discussions any longer , this whole EU hysteria is getting more and more annoying.It has blinded people. Some of them are so picky that on certain pages they even look out for commas and periods but they did not care to see this disaster. I already contacted the sides concerned, I do not know whether they will be willing to continue this discussion or not but I believe the solution that this discussion will result in will represent only one side and therefore can possible be subjected to a further study anytime, by anyone.--Geographyfanatic (talk) 05:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying ignore the situation, I am saying that you should be bold and make those changes yourself. My involvement in this is to moderate the discussion, not to write the article. And the nature of being a Wiki editor is that you don't ask someone else to make a correction, you do it yourself. If the data in the sources has changed, or if the data in the List has become corrupt, then it is appropriate to update the List from the source. It's like correcting a spelling mistake. Go ahead and do it. SilkTork *^YES! 06:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! I just looked at the list you linked to above. It's the (PPP) list not the (nominal) one. Have you used the wrong link? Regards SilkTork *^YES! 07:11, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked as a sockpuppet

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