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Comedian > Comedienne

Although your comment that Jane Lynch is not a man IS correct, the terminology of "comedian" is correct, also.

A check of the Wikepedia article comedian and a peruse of a dictionary refers to a comedian as a person, non-gender specific.

Cheers.

--Allamericanbear (talk) 10:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Please check out List of Comedians too. Although I do agree with the terminology (trust me when I say that I thought you were absolutely correct), I did my research, and found the term was deemed acceptable.

Take the term "hero". How many times may you have indirectly heard someone refer to a female as a hero, not a heroine?

Backing a woman into a corner by forcing her to be a comedienne, not a comedian, in my term is a trivial thing, and up to this point, the consensus had no issues up to this time. Why? Because it is an acceptable term used, for a male OR female.

By the way, I think Jane is an extremely talented individual.

--Allamericanbear (talk) 23:24, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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--Allamericanbear (talk) 03:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I didn't quite understand everything that you may have been attempting to cover in your reply on my user page, but have a couple of things to say regarding it...

I do agree, that the English language has, in fact, been butchered over the years. The faculty advisor that I had in my capacity as editor-in-chief of a literary magazine started her first classes in "College Composition and Interpretation of Literature" with a lecture on how the English language is "bag lady". Her lecture went on for the entire class noting how the language had a tendency to "borrow" words from other languages, folding them, bending them, and indeed butchering them to fit it's owns needs. I was completely mesmerized listening to the lecture, as well as the rest of the class.

If you take into consideration, the English language is constantly changing, and finding new words or recycled words for that matter, to get a point across. Saying something was "nice" doesn't carry the same impact as it had when it was first uttered. In addition, usage of certain words are being moved into obsolescence, and I find it's the nature of the English language.

Sure, usage of the word comedian has been accepted as an alternative, but as your statement that "Jane Lynch is not a man", may be a true statement, calling the word comedian as wrong was definition-wise, incorrect.

If you noticed, I didn't change your entry, due to the fact that the word is correctly being used. I only meant to point out the fact, that your summary was incorrectly worded. Seeing the consensus and reading the definition for "comedian" as not gender specific led me to my comments. Had you said, "although correct, using comedienne is more detailed", I'd have probably passed over and moved on.

Not to forget, do you really want to change ALL the other articles for females that have "comedian" worded in their articles, when the definition is correct?

Cheers.

--Allamericanbear (talk) 04:08, 8 June 2012 (UTC)