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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for February 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 23 - February 2009
"I want to find the guy that invented compression and tear his liver out. I hate it. It makes everything sound like a beer commercial." - Steve Albini
Project news
New members

MikeGruz and Blackadam2 joined the alternative music fold during February.

Editors

User:WesleyDodds

SoxBot II (talk) 03:10, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Withdraw from CUP

I WWW 15:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC) hereby withdraw from the WikiCup. Cheers! WWW 15:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

17:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC) The Helpful Bot 17:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost — 2 March 2009

This week, the Wikipedia Signpost published volume 5, issue 9, which includes these articles:

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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Charts

We have two unresolved threads. Please visit. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 04:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Moving the Cup to Wikipedia space

There seems to be enough consensus at the talk page to do so. Would you mind if we go ahead and make the changes? iMatthew // talk // 18:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

WC credits

I am mentioning this because this has not taken this long before. My second FL has not been credited yet. THIs gives me 2 FAs, 2 FLs, and 1 DYK so far. Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Country outlines project update - 2009/03/08

Remember "Around the World"?

Well, we've been around the World, and around again (virtually speaking, on Wikipedia), on this project.

Things have been slowing down again, so it's time for a big push...

We've gone live

This project needed a shot in the arm. Also, its draft pages have been littering Wikipedia's categories for months. The time seemed right to move all the country outline drafts to article space.

WHAT???

Well, the drafts had been sitting in Wikipedia space for a year.

WHAT???

Development has been moving at a snail's pace and we could use the help of the Wikipedia community at large (who are more likely to find these if they are in article space).

WHAT???

Yes, we've gone live.  :)

This puts pressure on us to get the blatantly incomplete elements of these outlines done. The only glaring problem is the government branches sections. These need to be corrected ASAP.

I've mentioned THE GOVERNMENT BRANCHES SECTIONS many times to many people over the past year, but the problem just doesn't seem to have been taken seriously. So let me put it another way:

HELP!!! I need your help on this now. Almost all the countries have a government with an executive branch, a legislative branch, and a judicial branch. The links for these branches need to be completed for each country outline:

Here's a convenient list you can use WP:LINKY on to access and edit these quickly. Please copy the list's link to the top of your talk page so that you can access it easily.

If you spot any standardization in links, and ways we can automate parts of this process, or for groups of countries that have links in common, please let me know!

Administrative support for outlines

There has been growing pressure on me to write up the administrative pages for outlines - their instructions, guidelines, etc. Therefore, I'm now in the process of composing these. Fortunately, it is mostly a matter of gathering material from messages I've written to you guys over the past year. Still, this is taking up most of my time, and I will be buried in these for the foreseeable future.

Traffic control

The next big task after the government branches sections are cleaned up is link support for the outlines.

There's quite a list of links and notices that need to be put in place around Wikipedia, providing access to them to readers, and alerting editors to the need to develop and maintain these pages. This will keep our bot people very busy (and happy).

But the most important thing right now is to get the government branches sections completed. So please, put your bots aside, roll up your shirt sleeves, and start typing.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 03:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost — 9 March 2009

This week, the Wikipedia Signpost published volume 5, issue 10, which includes these articles:

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Checkusers

I hope you don't mind that i corrected k as the original link went to cleanup. Simply south (talk) 11:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

WP:CU = Wikipedia Cleanup
WP:CHECK = Wikipedia Checkusers
k = your subpage.
~~~~ = me signing. Simply south (talk) 22:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Photos

How do you add photos to a page? Sourlemonade (talk) 22:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


tried it, its still not working, look at whats happening on my talkpage. Sourlemonade (talk) 23:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

my new image is from wikipedia itself! Sourlemonade (talk) 23:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Home audio

Thank you so much for moving to the correct name. The article was create-protected so I couldn't make it, but it definatley needs to be there. Come on; home audio...Daniel Christensen (talk) 23:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't have said anything, but it is chaanged with a good reference added and it's bloody home audio, how could it not have an article. If you want a BS article, see Sanyo SS-690 or Fisher DS-825. Home audio has so many pages that link to it, too. Daniel Christensen (talk) 23:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
If people would......take a deep breath.... help with the article instead of immeiatly critisizing and salting it would be a good article. Daniel Christensen (talk) 23:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Can you try

To check on IRC often. I need to talk to you. iMatthew // talk // 21:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Come back, please (on IRC)! ;) iMatthew // talk // 19:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I missed you last night, had things to do. Come back on today if you can. Heh. iMatthew // talk // 15:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Broken bot

Hello, your bot keeps incorrectly redirecting New Moon (movie) to New Moon (novel). There is a movie coming out about it. --Gp75motorsports TALK 12:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

A) That's my bot :)
B) It's a double redirect. Going to the original article redirects to a redirect, which MediaWiki doesn't like. Make New Moon (2009 film) a non-redirect, and the bot will stop. Xclamation point 23:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Question

When does next year's GardenCup start? --♪♫The New Mikemoraltalkcontribs 02:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Right, sorry about the wrong name. Okay thanks. ♪♫The New Mikemoraltalkcontribs 19:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Im going crazy.

1rst, my page was deleted, it was called Armies of Gielinor and noone told me. then when i clicked recreate, it told me it was deleted by glasscobra, who doesnt have thus in the contributs. also, i asked why he/she deleted it and the next day, it wasnt on his/her talk page and was deleted from my contibuts. please! im going crazy!  Sourlemonade  18:52, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

oh, and the fact that i made Armies of Gielinor wasnt on my contributs.  Sourlemonade  18:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

16:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC) The Helpful Bot 16:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Geography WikiProject update - 03/15/2009

You commented on the awards effort when it was just getting started a long while back - I thought you might like to see the end results...

The award images are complete!

After months of toil and attention to detail, Penubag has completed the set of images for this WikiProject's awards!

There are five race ribbons:

There's an engraved medallion:

And by far the hardest to create, a golden trophy:

If you have any ideas about awards these images can be placed upon, and how to award them (to show appreciation and to attract participants), please let me know.

And be sure to pop by Penubag's talk page to let him know what you think of his graphics artistry.

The Transhumanist 22:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


The Wikipedia Signpost  — 16 March 2009

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Lupin

would you have the ability to tweak the lupin spell checking tool? I'd like (at least my version) to show the actual "diff" above the edit box. I've seen it done before, but don't remember the circumstances. The reasons I'd like to see the diff are:

  1. First and most obvious - UK, Canada, US spellings aren't always the same.
  2. If the spelling change is in a reference, it can throw things off.
  3. If the spelling change is in a quote, it makes the quote inaccurate.

Any chance you can help with this? — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 07:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC) (I noticed the hat - and that you were more technically inclined, that's the reason I ask)

Rollback

Very sorry, I accidentally reverted your edits to WT:RfA. As soon as I realised what I'd done, I undid it. Once again, sorry about that. Nev1 (talk) 23:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I was trying to look at what you posted, but sometimes the touch pad mouse on this laptop has a damn mind of its own. I picked a high profile place for a slip of the hand! Nev1 (talk) 23:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, those rollback links on the watchlist are annoying as hell. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't take it personally Garden. Nev1 even had the brass neck to revert me only a few weeks ago! Over-sensitive touch pad indeed. :lol: --Malleus Fatuorum 23:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It's just my way of saying hi. If you've not had your edits accidentally reverted by me, you've not been around long enough ;-) Nev1 (talk) 12:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Heh, I'm not bothered at all. We're all human :D  GARDEN  19:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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Note to self

JPG weburiedoursecretsinthepark 23:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

You're needed

On IRC when you get the chance. iMatthew // talk // 16:28, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Log on again in 30 minutes from now. iMatthew // talk // 23:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup

Hello Garden. Did I read correctly in the last newsletter that nominated items still count in future rounds if not already dealt with? That would actually be great. I've been waiting ages for Delorentos to go through at GA and thought when I nominated it that there was plenty of time but now it probably doesn't really stand a chance even though it is one of the five oldest nominations. --candle•wicke 02:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

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User:Garden/No

Should the link be updated to Wikipedia talk:Flagged protection and patrolled revisions/Poll? SpencerT♦Nominate! 00:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Silent Alarm

Hey, I did a bit more editing and added the 'Personnel' section. It's looking better and better.

One thing though: before we make any more edits, can we ask for a re-appraisal of the quality to see if the major changes done this past week have increased its quality from B?

It'd be good to find out so that we know what to do next by comparing it with other FAs (thanks for Made in the Dark btw. I had a look and I think it's the most similar for us to imitate). Rafablu88 (talk) 03:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

How long do you think we should wait for a GA review? Especially since we really need some advice before we do more edits. I don't think I'm gonna touch it any further till a review. Should we remind them in the near future or actually get an editor to have a look? Do you know anyone? Rafablu88 (talk) 02:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Delorentos GA review

Hello! Thank you for your input – and yes, I have very nearly forgotten them at this stage! I was under the impression that music was a popular area when it came to editing and reviewing – I'll have to revise that notion... Delorentos still "consist" though – until May at least. I'm not sure what to make of the references ordering as I've never encountered that before and don't mind at all which order they are in. Is there a rule I'm unaware of? What "weird speech marks"? They look fine from my side of the screen - I can only presume that since it was a quote I probably copied and pasted it to allow no room for error but I still don't see anything unusual. On the notability of those people, I should think so, the only problem is I haven't gotten round to creating them yet... and unfortunately nobody else will either by the time hell has frozen over... the very mention of State in a source coming from their former arch-rivals (on the magazine front) must mean something... so how does it compare now? Ah yes, I've been dropping accidental Delorentos puns all over this statement so I shall leave you with the title of the eleventh – not 11th ;) – track of In Love with Detail.

"Until Next Time". --candle•wicke 21:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes, I meant to do that. Now you're just showing off your multi-coloured signatures with all those messages! ;) --candle•wicke 21:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid that last signature didn't impress quite as much – :P – it's very similar to the first one. ;) Have you ever done it in pink? I don't think I've ever asked that question before and suspect I probably never will again. :D --candle•wicke 22:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I'll probably get the reviewing bug some time. But right now it tends to be content creation and improvement. I'm working in a rather isolated and neglected area... :( Thank you. :D Is the review left on the talk page? --candle•wicke 13:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes, perhaps. I'll certainly be able to find some time for indie bands in the summer... although I'm inclined to work on Irish music as there are more than enough around to look after other countries, especially related to the United States and United Kingdom... whereas I seem to be the only person hovering within a kilometre of the abandoned WikiProject Irish Music... I'm practically choking on tumbleweed... still, Wales is near enough... what I meant was, does the review remain on the talk page? It seems as if everyone has a different way of reviewing... --candle•wicke 20:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Franz Ferdinand spring immediately to mind. Belle & Sebastian. I'm aware of Glasvegas. And Idlewild. The View. Hard to avoid The Fratellis. Actually heard KT Tunstall on the radio a few hours ago. Biffy Clyro. Annie Lennox. Saw The Breakfast Club during the week so I've had "Don't You (Forget About Me)" going through my head a bit. The "Sunshine Superman" song – probably from that cider ad mentioned in the article. The Proclaimers. The Fire Engines because of the Franz Ferdinand cover. Just went through some of the categories, I recognise a few more but I'm familiar with at least one song for each of the above right through to all three albums for the very first. I would presume you were previously unaware of Delorentos – but now are no doubt familiar with their entire career(!) Who/what do you know of Irish music? --candle•wicke 22:29, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes, we're pretty good at producing pop groups, Louis Walsh is currently in the process of unleashing another girl band upon us. They don't even have a name so I'm not sure I would know where to even begin searching for a link. :P Nope, oddly enough I don't mind borrowing Snow Patrol from the other side. Nor Duke Special either for that matter. I've been a bit distracted due to the unexpected resignation of one of Ireland's leading chat show hosts, Pat Kenny, live on air a few hours ago – been watching for vandals and adding sources as they come, since there appears not to have been any other interested parties on duty. You'll know of The Cranberries perhaps? They seem have impacted the international charts. Then there's Sinéad O'Connor I suppose, although, according to those I've been in contact with from the United States, she was a bit of a one hit wonder. I was also surprised at how well-known another recent GA of mine, Lisa Hannigan, was in the US – probably better known though for collaborating with Damien Rice. Who was previously in Juniper with the rest of what is now Bell X1, who have appeared on the Late Show with David Letterman. Then there's The Frames, fronted by the Academy Award-winning, Grammy Award-nominated Glen Hansard. The Stunning, slightly connected with The Walls who did feature on the soundtrack of UEFA Euro 2004 by EA Sports, seems to be their highest point... The Thrills? I can barely remember them but I think they had some success... The Boomtown Rats – forever in the shadow of Bob Geldof of course... Thin Lizzy... probably would have outside recognition... Future Kings of Spain... probably don't, but still, a good band... Fight Like Apes? I think they've been doing OK – they made it to Glastonbury last year... Ham Sandwich – always being given grief over their name... Fred – seem to be doing well in Canada of all places... Royseven seem to have a decent German following... The Flaws have been played on Italian radio and television... The Aftermath have ties with Kaiser Chiefs... then there's the more pop-oriented rock bands like The Blizzards and The Coronas who have a pretty decent following at home but probably not much elsewhere... The Script went to the UK and came back more famous than when they started... Republic of Loose were at Glasto too I think... Aslan... Picturehouse... Pony Club... The Frank and Walters... The Saw Doctors... Something Happens... Messiah J and the Expert... The Sultans of Ping FC... The Immediate were good – then they went the same way as Delorentos... Juno Falls? Brad Pitt apparently likes them... I must work on Mick Flannery. Cathy Davey too. These musicians and bands are all in an awful state! :P Now I'm clutching at straws... you'd really want to be indie-obsessed to have heard of very many of these outside Ireland... amazing what such a small country can come up with – although Ireland always seems to be punching above its weight... we've even "claimed" R.E.M and Kylie Minogue... can't believe we've gotten this far without mentioning that obvious internationally-acclaimed Irish band that everybody seems to have heard of... apologies for the longest reply ever... hard to stop once I get started on this topic... ;) --candle•wicke 03:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiCup

Can I substitute in for a withdrawn entrant at Wikipedia:WikiCup?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:11, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Can you come onto IRC

Now, if possible? If not, please please please let me know what time you will be available today, and we can close the round then. Also, sorry for pushing it a day back without talking to you first and making it seem like I'm the only person running this thing - I noticed it came off that way. Like I said in my reply, I just wanted us to all be around to help closing the round. Cheers, iMatthew // talk // 12:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

8 pm for you would be what time UTC? iMatthew // talk // 13:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
I see you came in this morning. I was awake about a half hour after you left. Anyway, I'm on now :) iMatthew // talk // 17:45, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
I won't be on much over the next two days, and we still need to make pools and a newsletter. Please try your hardest to come on IRC. iMatthew // talk // 21:29, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey there

You said you'd help me with Janis Gold :-). The references are here. I've made a start on it, but it's late here and there are a few other things I've got to take care of. Thanks, I owe you one. If you need a favour in the future, I owe you it :-) Steve Crossin Talk/24 11:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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WikiCup Newsletter

The WikiCup Newsletter
The WikiCup Newsletter
Round I, Issue 10 - March 31, 2009

Archive before | Archive after

Content Leaders

As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants with the most:

Biggest Jumps

This week, the players with the biggest difference between their points last fortnight, and their points this week are:

Rank User LF TF D
1 Mexico Durova 1713 1932 219
2 Mitchazenia 951 1167 216
3 Iceland Scorpion0422 683 788 105
4 Colombia ThinkBlue 291 386 95
5 Wales Shoemaker's Holiday 791 873 82
6 Sweden Theleftorium 990 1060 70
7 Switzerland Sasata 513 581 68
8 Thailand Rlevse 224 290 66
9 Vanuatu Matthewedwards 630 695 65
10 New South Wales 97198 314 360 46
  • LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores
  • A full list is located at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Jumps
From the Judges

What a brilliant finale to Round 1. With so little in it it was always going to be a tight contest, particularly in the all-important wildcard places. Congratulations to all those who have made it to Round 2, an commiserations to all who have been eliminated. I hope you continue to contribute as fully as you have been in the tournament, if not better!

As has been stated before, Round 2 begins Wednesday, April 1 2009. I hope you are all ready!

 GARDEN , iMatthew // talk, and The Helpful One

If you don't wish to receive this newsletter in the future, remove your name from this list. If you are not a participant, but would still like to receive this newsletter, feel free to add your name to the list.

WikiCup At a Glance

As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a total of:

Pool winners

In this round of the WikiCup, the top two contestants from each pool, along with ten wildcards, will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are:

Pool A
  1. Toronto Gary King (1154)
  2. Philippines Spencer (377)
Pool B
  1. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (1055)
  2. Texas La Pianista (74)
Pool C
  1. Iceland Scorpion0422 (944)
  2. Denmark Candlewicke (806)
Pool D
  1. Colombia ThinkBlue (444)
  2. New South Wales 97198 (374)
Pool E
  1. Switzerland Sasata (604)
  2. Antarctica X! (216)
Pool F
  1. Thailand Rlevse (405)
  2. Confederate States of America Bedford (331)
Pool G
  1. Northern Cyprus Sunderland06 (236)
  2. Luxembourg Ceranthor (190)
Pool H
  1. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (686)
  2. England Dendodge (220)
Pool I
  1. Sweden Theleftorium (1107)
  2. Mexico Durova (961)
Pool J
  1. Mitchazenia (1180)
  2. Vanuatu Matthewedwards (702)
Wildcard winners
  1. United States Useight (659)
  2. Cambodia Paxse (507)
  3. Principality of Sealand Rambo's Revenge (333)
  4. Michigan the_ed17 (330)
  5. Isle of Man J Milburn (302)
  6. Alberta Climie.ca (265)
  7. Spain Catalan (256)
  8. Maryland Ottava Rima (190)
  9. Japan Wrestlinglover (169)
  10. India Tinucherian (162)
  • All scores are accurate as of the end of Round 1.
20:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Delivered for the WikiCup by  GARDEN  at 20:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC). Queries to my talk.

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