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Your submission at Articles for creation: Shuhan (Robert) Sheng (March 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chaotic Enby was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please bring independent, reliable secondary sources discussing the person (or his works), rather than citing the articles he published directly.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Shuhan (Robert) Sheng and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:59, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Fontierlab! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:59, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Shuhan (Robert) Sheng (March 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by The Herald were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Shuhan (Robert) Sheng and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

The Herald (Benison) (talk) 09:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paid editing / PR sourcing

Hello Fontierlab. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:Shuhan (Robert) Sheng, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Fontierlab. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Fontierlab|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Sam Kuru (talk) 17:13, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kuru, thank you for reaching out. I can assure you that I have not received and will not accept any compensation, either directly or indirectly, from the individuals or organizations mentioned in my edits. Our initiative is to consolidate and share information about unique founders in the AI product space through our team's collaborative efforts (e.g., founders of tools like GPTzero).

We are also familiarizing ourselves with Wikipedia's requirements and will usually review all links and citations again before submitting for formal approval. Our contributors each use separate accounts to contribute independently.

Thank you for your inquiry, and please let me know if there are any areas where you believe we can improve further. Fontierlab (talk) 08:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I also noticed you crossed out a lot of references and marked them as PR. Just curious, was that based on personal judgment or is there any specific criteria? I’ve just taken over here and I’m still learning the ropes, so any tips on evaluating whether a media source is objective and credible would be super helpful.

Also, would it be okay if I reach out to you with questions about other information sources that might not be related to this draft?? I’d love for you to take a glance at some of them and let me know if they’re legit. (If thats not too trouble.

Many thanks Fontierlab (talk) 11:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who is "we"? Sam Kuru (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Name's founderlab. A spontaneous organization that attempts to aggregate information about the founders of unique AI products. Fontierlab (talk) 09:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Fontierlab", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it implies your account is shared between multiple individuals, which violates our policies. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. If this is a shared account, the individuals intended to use this account should instead create new individual accounts for editing. If this is not a shared account, you may ask for a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. Thank you. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see, so another interesting “guess” like the previous “Mr Sam” did. Guess I'm being too nice by replying to all of these question. Well, do what you have to do ；) Fontierlab (talk) 06:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully, you said yourself that your account represented a spontaneous organization. Accounts are supposed to be individual, not to represent an organization. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:39, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And I also said "contributors each use separate accounts to contribute independently.", Best. Fontierlab (talk) 09:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Still, having a name very similar to that of your organization does not make this obvious. Even in that case, it could be good to disclose the other accounts, as meatpuppetry/coordinated editing is not allowed. You mention contributing independently, but you also talk about our team's collaborative efforts, so a bit more transparency is needed. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]