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{{My sandbox}} on your user page. By the way, seeing as you haven't created a user page yet, simply click here to start it.Sincerely, Jax 0677 (talk) 02:55, 28 December 2017 (UTC) (Leave me a message)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Rodrigo Tavares has been accepted
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Winged BladesGodric 09:50, 28 December 2017 (UTC)Unsourced content
[edit]Do not restore unsourced content, as you did here. Jytdog (talk) 01:00, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your edits, but your revision is incorrect. Rodrigo Tavares was born in Lisbon, he only grew up in Castelo Branco. If you are a Portuguese speaker I recommend you to read his interview to the local newspaper Reconquista here: http://www.reconquista.pt/articles/rodrigo-tavares-o-albicastrense-que-o-mundo-quer-ouvir. I suggest you leave my edits intact.
- If you continue to add unsourced content to Wikipedia you will end up blocked. Don't do it. Jytdog (talk) 01:10, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
The article Rodrigo Tavares has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
I really see no evidence of notability, either inherently or via GNG.
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- Dear Drmies, thanks for your note. The article was edited and put online by an administrator, but I have now expanded it to address your concern. Best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fgvwiki07 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Conflict of interest in Wikipedai
[edit]Hi Fgvwiki07. Along with my regular editing I work on conflict of interest issues in Wikipedia.
You disclosed here that you are a former student of Tavares.
Writing about people you know, constitutes a conflict of interest in Wikipedia, and like other editors who come with a COI, you are editing in a promotional manner, adding unsourced or badly sourced content that is promotional.
I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.
Hello, Fgvwiki07. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. Editing for the purpose of advertising or promotion is not permitted. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).
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Comments and requests
[edit]Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do.
Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. You started that at Kudpung's page. I have added a disclosure at the Talk page for the Tavares article. Would you please add the disclosure to your user page, User:Fgvwiki07 (a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet). Just something simple like: "I am a former student of Rodrigo Tavares and have a conflict of interest with regard to him" would be fine. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the company or yourself (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like). Once you disclose on your user page, the disclosure piece of this will be done.
As I noted above, there are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is a form of peer review. This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to battles with other editors.
What we ask editors to do who have a COI or who are paid, and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:
- a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft through the WP:AFC process, disclose your COI on the Talk page with the Template:Connected contributor tag, and then submit the draft article for review (you did put this through AfC, which is great).
- b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI (including this one), we ask you to
- (i) disclose at the Talk page of the article with the Template:Connected contributor tag, putting it at the bottom of the beige box at the top of the page (I did this for you); and
- (ii) propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. Just open a new section, put the proposed content there, and just below the header (at the top of the editing window) please the
{{request edit}}tag to flag it for other editors to review. In general it should be relatively short so that it is not too much review at once.
By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies.
But understanding the mission, and the policies and guidelines through which we realize the mission, is very important! There are a whole slew of policies and guidelines that govern content and behavior here in Wikipedia. Please see User:Jytdog/How for an overview of what Wikipedia is and is not (we are not a directory or a place to promote anything), and for an overview of the content and behavior policies and guidelines. Learning and following these is very important, and takes time. Please be aware that you have created a Wikipedia account, and this makes you a Wikipedian - you are obligated to pursue Wikipedia's mission first and foremost when you work here, and you are obligated to edit according to the policies and guidelines. Editing Wikipedia is a privilege that is freely offered to all, but the community restricts or completely takes that privilege away from people who will not edit and behave as Wikipedians.
I hope that makes sense to you.
I want to add here that per the WP:COI guideline, if you want to directly update simple, uncontroversial facts (for example, correcting the facts about where the company has offices) you can do that directly in the article, without making an edit request on the Talk page. Just be sure to always cite a reliable source for the information you change, and make sure it is simple, factual, uncontroversial content. If you are not sure if something is uncontroversial, please ask at the Talk page.
Will you please agree to learn and follow the content and behavioral policies and guidelines, and to follow the peer review processes going forward when you want to work on the Tavares article or any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. Best regards Jytdog (talk) 01:39, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- Jytdog, many thanks for your guidance on COI. I have added the COI disclosure and left my most recent revisions in the article's talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fgvwiki07 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- This direct edit was inappropriate and what you wrote in the talk page here is not true - you knew very well that you should not edit the article. Please do not do that in the future. Thanks Jytdog (talk) 17:47, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- You have again edited directly. Please follow the COI guideline. Please be aware that people who refuse to follow the policies and guidelines lose their editing privileges. Jytdog (talk) 21:08, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I wrote systematically, over the last couple of days, that the information on Young Global Leader is incorrect. I have discussed this BEFORE editing it on the article. Im following the guidelines. Please see all my discussions on talk pages. As you reverted my latest edit two things happened: 1. you maintained a grammar mistake (he becOme president of the Granito Group), 2. you maintained a false information (he was NOT nominated Young Leader by Quebec in 2017). The information is so clearly wrong that the reference you are using agrees with me. Also, I would appreciate if you accept my edits of yesterday ('boutique bank' and not 'small bank' and 'consulting firm' and not 'consulting business'.) If I may be sincere, its quite draining to research massively to include 100% accurate information on Talk Pages and then to see it published wrongly or carelessly by someone else. Im a true believer in Wikipedia and Ive truly researched obsessively to post 100% accurate information. So I hope this effort is acknowledged.
- Another question I have: with my COI (and by the way I reiterate that I have no professional or personal connections to Rodrigo Tavares) am I impeded to edit the article? No minor edition is possible? My role is only to make suggestions on talk pages waiting for an editor to get it accepted or not? Im happy to comply with rules, but I would like to know what they are Fgvwiki07 (talk) 21:26, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Please read the note below about indenting and signing. I have fixed your indenting above.
- The COI guideline is extremely clear. It is explained very clearly above as well as in the WP:COI guideline itself. Your COI is driving you to ignore it -- that is what COI does and if you are a person who cares about public policy you should reflect on this and your own behavior here -- and think about how people in public office act when they are confronted with conflicts of interest. Please control yourself. If you will not, the community will take action to simply bar you from editing the article. This is not complicated. Jytdog (talk) 21:33, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Another question I have: with my COI (and by the way I reiterate that I have no professional or personal connections to Rodrigo Tavares) am I impeded to edit the article? No minor edition is possible? My role is only to make suggestions on talk pages waiting for an editor to get it accepted or not? Im happy to comply with rules, but I would like to know what they are Fgvwiki07 (talk) 21:26, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- OK, got it, thanks. Could I please ask you to post back the edits I made yesterday and today? The rationale for those edits is above.Fgvwiki07 (talk) 21:44, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- You said that you "got it" before; perhaps you actually mean it this time. On the content, you are like a dog with a bone for pete's sake. I came here to discuss your behavior. Please discuss content at the article talk page. Jytdog (talk) 22:18, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- OK, got it, thanks. Could I please ask you to post back the edits I made yesterday and today? The rationale for those edits is above.Fgvwiki07 (talk) 21:44, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Using talk pages (including this one)
[edit]Quick note on the logistics of discussing things on Talk pages, which are essential for everything that happens here. In Talk page discussions, we "thread" comments by indenting - when you reply to someone, you put a colon in front of your comment, which the Wikipedia software will render into an indent when you save your edit; if the other person has indented once, then you indent twice by putting two colons in front of your comment, which the WP software converts into two indents, and when that gets ridiculous you reset back to the margin (or "outdent") by putting this {{od}} in front of your comment. This also allows you to make it clear if you are also responding to something that someone else responded to if there are more than two people in the discussion; in that case you would indent the same amount as the person just above you in the thread. I hope that all makes sense.
And at the end of the comment, please "sign" by typing exactly four (not 3 or 5) tildas "~~~~" which the WP software converts into a date stamp and links to your talk and user pages when you save your edit. That is how we know who said what, to whom.
Please indent and sign your posts. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 17:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Rodrigo Tavares (April 27)
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Hello, Fgvwiki07!
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CS1 error on Rodrigo Tavares
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Concern regarding Draft:Rodrigo Tavares
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