User talk:FREEDOM66

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Hello, FREEDOM66, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, your edit to English Defence League does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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November 2012

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, you may be blocked from editing. Leaky Caldron 14:16, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. The next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at English Defence League, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. GimliDotNet^{(Speak to me,Stuff I've done)} 14:18, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please answer why it's ok for the EDL to be named far-right which is a lie but not patriotic which is true — Preceding unsigned comment added by FREEDOM66 (talk • contribs)

Because multiple reliable sources describe it as far-right. I suggest you read through the talk page before continuing to push your own agenda GimliDotNet^{(Speak to me,Stuff I've done)} 15:08, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to your website rules, calling the EDL far-right is not being neutral, here is the definition of neutral "not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy." As I am obviously not allowed to edit the article to show the truth to the general public perhaps you could let me know why Wikipedia is not being neutral.— Preceding unsigned comment added by FREEDOM66 (talk • contribs)

You are allowed to edit the article. You are not allowed to push your point of view. This is not the place for discussing it - use the articles talk page linked above there have been a number of discussions about this over the last few years. You need to provide reliable sources that backup the patriotic flag rather than far-right GimliDotNet^{(Speak to me,Stuff I've done)} 15:16, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I have done as asked and read the talk page on the subject and can only assume that nobody has ever invited you or any of the other admins to attend an EDL meeting to see what really goes on, for starters the EDL are not and have never been a political entity, we the EDL are patriotic persons of an English decent that do not want islam to dominanate our once great land, islam is nothing but a facist cult and unfortunately the majority of the UK do not see what is really happening to their land. Calling the EDL Patriotic is NOT my PoV, it is FACT in the mind of at least 100,000 peaple in the world and for Wikipedia to continue to call us far-right not only proves you are not neutral but proves that you want to portray lies as fact as we are not far-right nor are we political.

Wikipedia is not a news site. We rely on third party sources. Those sources say the EDL is far-right. I'm not willing to get into a discussion on your POV - which is self evident by the statements you have made above. I hope you can start to edit constructively. GimliDotNet^{(Speak to me,Stuff I've done)} 15:57, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So Wikipedia will continue to call us far-right only proving it is not neutral. Just a thought but perhaps you guys should look in to publishing the truth in future rather then just rumours from "third party sources".