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A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you for your contributions to New York City articles! Rosiestep (talk) 16:08, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: Thank you very much! Epicgenius (talk) 21:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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Station moves

You are citing a contested RM discussion in support of page moves that are currently being discussed in other RMs. This just makes a mess that needs to be cleaned up. Try following some talk links: Talk:Grosvenor–Strathmore Station#Move discussion in progress which will lead you to Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2014 December#Greenbelt Station if you are not aware of what's going on. Dicklyon (talk) 00:36, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

See also the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations)#Determining official station name. Dicklyon (talk) 02:58, 5 January 2015 (UTC

Thanks. Epicgenius (talk) 12:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Waldorf

I'll be giving this the full expansion over the next week or two, hopefully to GA status. Some material may or may not be great at the moment but I've been going through my Morehouse book and finding bits. It'll develop well soon enough. Thanks for your work on it to date.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: No problem, and thank you as well for your expansions to the article. Epicgenius (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Three edit conflicts in five minutes :-) Can you not edit it for the time being while I'm at it?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:25, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. I was formatting it, and didn't realize you were also on the page. Epicgenius (talk) 13:34, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Why did you restore the old date format? MOS leaves it open to use a range of date formats, and I believe 5 January 2014 etc is the most commonly used one on wikipedia. All of my FAs and GAs feature that format. What's wrong with it?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:44, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. If you want dmy, I can also do that, too. I used mdy to standardise the date formats for American conventions, as some were dmy while other were mdy. Epicgenius (talk) 13:46, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I used to use it but I realised that more editors seem to use it than any other formatting. I think it looks tidier without the comma too, so it eventually became the norm for me. I know some people prefer the other like yourself though, Philip Seymour Hoffman is currently at FAC and Loeba was adamant that we format the dates like that :-) I'm not too bothered either way, but I'm so in the habit of formatting it like that I'm likely to keep forgetting and you'll have to update it all of the time!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Your edits have been ruining formatting.

Hello Epicgenius, two of your edits to Charlie Hebdo have broken the formatting. Please be sure that the page is readable on normal monitors, thanks :) Gamebuster19901 (talk) 02:41, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. I'll resolve that. My computer doesn't seem to have that problem, though. Maybe it's the screen size. Epicgenius (talk) 02:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Oof, I don't touch topics as hot as that. Anyway yes, in cases of uncertain formatting, even if we have only one kind of computer, we can try two or three different browsers and a few different font sizes, zoom levels and window widths in various combinations. Mostly I just write in ways that avoid letting details like that become critical. Jim.henderson (talk) 03:00, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jim.henderson: Thank you for the tip. I'll also try my phone as well to see if the formatting is OK. Epicgenius (talk) 03:10, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Washington Metro track gauge

The page Washington Metro rolling stock says the gauge is 4 ft 8+1⁄4 in (1,429 mm) and gives a reference. I have seen this elsewhere but I'm welcome to be corrected. The two pages should be synchronised to whichever is correct. Tjej (talk) 03:49, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tjej: I reverted myself. However, you may want to put the reference directly where the gauge is mentioned. It's quite an unusual gauge, which leaves readers maybe wanting a reference. Epicgenius (talk) 03:52, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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Precious again

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Thank you, speaker of many languages including sarcasm, for quality articles such as List of works in the Museum of Modern Art, for templates for stations and the gnomish work to apply them, for welcoming new users and reverting with kindness, for a cute infobox and trust, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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@Gerda Arendt: Thank you so much (again)! Epicgenius (talk) 00:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

St. John's Park

Thanks for the cleanup. BMK (talk) 21:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem. That means a lot coming from you. Epicgenius (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Sure, but if you hide a reference I've made a mistake in while I'm actively editing the article, I can't see the error to fix it. BMK (talk) 04:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I didn't see you just edited the article. Epicgenius (talk) 04:10, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

NYCS stations navbox

I just added the first Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Corporation line to your New York City Subway stations navbox. Did I put the stations in the order you wanted? Because I noticed that you've added mostly stations on line going through the Bronx, and they're placed from north to south. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:34, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

@DanTD: No, it's fine. I originally did it from north to south based from the listing in Template:NYCS stations. Epicgenius (talk) 20:36, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad you like my work so far. Care to take the IRT Lexington Avenue Line and BMT Broadway Line? I don't think we're forgetting too much else besides the abandoned lines and the IND Second Avenue Line. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 00:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I did the three Second Avenue Line stations under construction. If I don't get the Lex Ave and Broadway Lines today, I'll get it tomorrow. Epicgenius (talk) 00:24, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you, David Biddulph. I can't move the talk page to align with the article page because a redirect already existed at page Talk:Persian cat. I will use {{Db-move}} now. Epicgenius (talk) 20:23, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I've listed it at WP:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen, so they can hopefully sort it out for you. David Biddulph (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Epicgenius (talk) 20:26, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

New York City Subway

Hello. It's me; Rockies77. I just want to let you know that the Expansion section of the NYC Subway topic has a tone problem. In other words, that section does not have that "encyclopedian look." Rockies77 (talk) 06:42, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

@Rockies77: What do you mean by that? I will try to fix it, but I don't read any unencyclopedic tones into there. Epicgenius (talk) 13:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

OK, I have fixed some of the tone issues. I hope it's all right if I remove the tag now. Epicgenius (talk) 13:39, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I do see now that the issue was resolved. A bot had originally added that claim about the tone of that particular section of NYCS. I hope that you, at least, can try to have the New York City Subway subject into having a good article rank. Rockies77 (talk) 07:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'll keep improving it. Epicgenius (talk) 13:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

NYPD / Failure of oversight

How does this statement violate POV ? It was made by an investigator of the NYPD itself ? It speaks to concerns about the failure of oversight.--Maslowsneeds (talk) 18:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Philip Eure, the inspector general of the NYPD, told The New York Times, “Obviously, we are going to be looking at a broader sample of cases to see if it’s more systemic. But people should be troubled by the disconnect that we determined exists already in the disciplinary process.”

It's the other one. "The homicide..." I'll explain later. Epicgenius (talk) 18:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I won't contest the "other one," but I feel like the above quote, which you removed, adds support and authority. Can you agree that it is O.K. to restore the above quote ?--Maslowsneeds (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Maslowsneeds: It isn't a homicide (murder) because it implies that the officer intended to kill Garner from the outset (i.e. a death, rather than arrest, was the main goal). Instead, the death was unintentional, so I said just that.

The NY Times quote, on the other hand, is unnecessary, as it says the same thing as free use, non-quoted, text preceding it. When possible, Wikipedia should use anything that can be freely used under the CC BY-SA 3.0 license. The NY Times is copyrighted, however, and since we already have an explanation preceding this quote (which says almost exactly what Eure says in different words, except for a few things), I removed it. Epicgenius (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

The Medical Examiner ruled the chokehold death a homicide, so I'm not making an opinionated determination about Eric Garner's cause of death. The cause of death as homicide should be returned, based on the legal determination made by the ME. Further, I don't get how you can remove a quote that is being used to establish authority ? Fair use of the quote for reference purposes does not violate copyright law, as you very well know, especially when the context is germane to failure of oversight. Otherwise, will you scrub all of Wikipedia of fair use quotes ? Or are you just being selective about what you remove ?--Maslowsneeds (talk) 21:07, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

It's a matter of verbosity. A quote is not necessary to establish authority. This page already has an anti-police POV, but I won't regard that. Instead, I am saying that the quotes should only be used when paraphrasing cannot get the point across. As WP:LONGQUOTE says, "Quotes shouldn't replace plain, concise text." Epicgenius (talk) 23:17, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry

Hey, I had a real hard few weeks and was out of line. I apologize for the comments... talk→ WPPilot  18:10, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Apology accepted. I apologize for coming across as hypocritical to you. Epicgenius (talk) 18:12, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for helping improve the page of my alma mater. Quis separabit? 17:41, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem; I'm glad to help. Epicgenius (talk) 17:41, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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One World Trade Center

@Biblioworm: Thanks! Epicgenius (talk) 14:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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Fort Greene

Don't take out Stroller Pimp dad. That's there to show that there are criminals living there still, and he's been in the press a number of times.--38.105.132.130 (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I apologize if it may seem POV to you, but if he doesn't have an article then he's not really a notable person. We can name a bunch of criminals in Fort Greene because of the crime rates there, but most of these criminals aren't notable. Maybe we can add a "Crime" section instead. Epicgenius (talk) 15:04, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

HanSangYoon, regarding LACMTA

The external links of the North Hollywood (Los Angeles Metro station) article as seen on Epicgenius's computer

Hello. I have noticed that you've been trying to undo the pages of North Hollywood Station and Hollywood/Highland Station of Los Angeles Metro. You have stated that the pictures would fall off of the edge, but as I am checking all my devices (IE, Chrome, Safari, Mobile and Tablet Browser). There is no falling off. Can you explain what is going on? --HanSangYoon (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

@HanSangYoon: Many of the pictures extend into the "External Links" section because they are aligned directly below the infobox. The reader will see multiple blank lines between the last link and the list of categories. In a gallery, all the pictures will be on a couple of rows instead of extending into the bottom of the page. Epicgenius (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

On this Wikipedia page, the words equally aligns with the image length. I don't really see any gaps between? Also to note, people don't view gallery image as much as the automatically provided thumbnail images. So for this reason, I strongly recommend thumb nails over gallery. --HanSangYoon (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

@HanSangYoon: Actually, the bottom of the article has a bunch of white space that can be deleted, except that the pictures are there. See the screenshot at right. Epicgenius (talk) 19:43, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I would leave it as it is anyways, though. But, I would like to apologize for the inconvienience I made with the edit, and yes, it looks quite awkward with all the white spaces. But to let you know, I was writing an additional paragraph section based on the architecture and design of the station for the page. Hold on, and let's see if that could take care of the space. --HanSangYoon (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

All right, thanks. You may want to align some pictures on the left instead to reduce that space. Epicgenius (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

C'mon! That is just an improper use of images in so many ways. It is wrong to stuff random images into an article and it is away out of line if they are mostly your own. That is what Commons is for and where those photos should have been uploaded in the first place. Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

That's also a good idea. A gallery for each station could be created in Commons, though. Epicgenius (talk) 01:18, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Can I ask you to transfer all of my images to Commons as you advised me earlier? Also, can I also ask you to relocate the images of the following pages, since your computer could detect the blank spaces on the bottom:

- Hollywood/Highland. I had to switch some pictures around due to the awkward pairs (the two tunnels were meant to be placed next to each other as a comparison)- maybe you could move them back with the position?

- Hollywood/Vine

- Hollywood/Western

- Vermont/Sunset :)

- Vermont/Santa Monica

- Vermont/Beverly- I hope you're not tired of me asking you of these helps. Please tell me if you are annoyed or so.

--HanSangYoon (talk) 20:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Sure. I will move the images to Commons soon. Anyway, Hollywood/Highland and Hollywood/Western have been fixed; Hollywood/Vine is fine. To do: Vermont/Sunset Epicgenius (talk) 21:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I'll get back on these by Monday. Epicgenius (talk) 15:37, 24 January 2015 (UTC) (FTR:  Done)

Clara Blandick

Hi! I understand why edited the article -- mentioning that she was either three or about to turn three when the family settled in Quincy may seem trivial. However, I had put it that way to assert that she WAS three, about to turn four, in early 1880. I keep correcting her date of birth to 1876, but, somebody keeps changing it back to 1880. I have been researching Ms.Blandick for the past two years, and I am in the process of having my book about her published. I know her life pretty well, and, I have been providing proof that she was born in 1876. It was very frustrating to keep having it changed back, so, I put in that part about her age as further emphasis about her year of birth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KateWhitesea (talk • contribs) 19:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello. I removed the age (3 or 4 years) because the reader can surmise it. There are no factual errors in your edits, but it's kind of redundant to add the age there. Epic Genius (talk) 19:45, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

[section named "I have done the math" merged here]

Clara Blandick was born on June 4, 1876. In early 1880 (January - June 4,) she would have been three. She would have turned four on June 4.

I have not been able to find exactly which year the Dickey's settled in Quincy. The earliest record of them living there was in 1880. The last record of them living on the Willard Mudgett was 1877. By 1878, a different captain was listed as being in command of that ship. I have found articles that said that she was not quite three when she first lived on dry land, and articles that have said that she had just turned three. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KateWhitesea (talk • contribs) 19:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I'm fine with you adding that. You should say something like: "Sources vary on when the Dickeys settled in Clancy. Clara may have been three or four years old at the time that they settled, in 1880". Epic Genius (talk) 19:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

[section named "I acknowledged that it was redundant" merged here]

But, I explained why I did it. If the user who keeps reverting her year of birth back to 1880 would stop, redundancy would be unnecessary.

[section named "Will do!" merged here]

Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by KateWhitesea (talk • contribs) 19:54, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem. You do not need to make a new section for every single reply, by the way. Epic Genius (talk) 19:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I am not the most technologically savvy person. In fact, technology hates me. What is the best way to reply? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KateWhitesea (talk • contribs) 20:32, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Use the [edit] link next to the section header. In this case, it is "Clara Blandick". Then leave a reply at the bottom of the page that loads after you click the [edit] link. Epic Genius (talk) 20:35, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Waldorf Astoria New York

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January 2015 Nor'easter

I was not trying to be disruptive. I didn't really mean I was gonna move it as many times as I have to. I stopped the war because there was no point of it. I would have liked the article to be named the Blizzard of 2015 because the media have been calling it a blizzard and the storm does meet the definition of a blizzard. Some parts of New England are getting more than 2 feet of snow, so it doesn't really make sense to call it a nor'easter. Think about what I said and let me know what you think on my talk page.

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@DEJ88DP10: It is okay. The "Blizzard of 2015" article is a redirect anyway. Since these are nicknames, unless one particular nickname is really popular, none of the nicknames can be given as the official title of the Wikipedia article, per policy. The storm is best described as a Nor'easter, though. (Also, my area only got 10 inches of snow, so that may have impacted my decision, but then again, you are correct too; many parts in New England/Long Island got 24 inches. But please file a requested move first before moving the page to another nickname.) Epic Genius (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, we had a very lengthy discussion on Talk:Edmonton, and most editors feel that they should not be added. I was against removing them from the infobox, but several editors removed my additions of the flag icons. Since there was a discrepancy in major city articles I decided to remove most flags to avoid confusion. If you look at the Edmonton talk page, there are many editors saying that they are distracting to the eye, etc. If you want to contribute there as well feel free. I do not think there is a set in stone rule for if they should be included or not. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 18:37, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

@Vaselineeeeeeee: It's OK. If you want to remove them, I understand. However, the flags in the NYC articles have been there for a long time without many people objecting, so that's why I restored them. Epic Genius (talk) 18:45, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Epicgenius, just a quick question?

Hi Epicgenius! :-) Jus a quick question, what does "Pagenamed was patrolled by Username"? I see you patrolled a article I created. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Thank you! CookieMonster755 (talk) 02:10, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@CookieMonster755: Usually, it's a good thing. (See also meta:Help:Patrolled edits.) Whenever you create an article, unless you have the autopatrolled user right, there will be a small link on the bottom right hand corner in order for someone else to mark your edit as patrolled. That means that another editor has reviewed your article. This is useful for Special:NewPages. I hope that answers your question. Epic Genius (talk) 02:14, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Pahks

I'm not understanding your thinking. There are many parks in Manahttan, both city parks, like Bennett Park, and non-city parks,like Zucotti Park and Hudson River Park. Both kinds of parks should be in Category:Parks in Manhattan. On the other hand, all parks anywhere in New York City which are city parks should be in Category:New York City Department of Parks and Recreation, but none of the non-city parks should be. The two categories overlap in membership, but one is neither a parent or child of the other. So... under what theory would Bennett Park not go into Category:New York City Department of Parks and Recreation as well as Category:Parks in Manhattan? BMK (talk) 03:53, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see what you meant. BMK (talk) 04:14, 31 January 2015 (UTC)