User talk:Elttaruuu/2023/April

DYK nomination of Aubri Esters

Hello! Your submission of Aubri Esters at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 18:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello! I did fix both of these concerns. Thanks! Elttaruuu (talk) 19:35, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Freddie Pendavis for deletion

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:02, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Drafts

Hey, sorry I had to move the Freddie Pendavis entry back to mainspace—once an AfD is started we have to let it run its course. Sometimes a new page patroller will move an entry to draft space to give an editor more time to work on it, but if they think the topic isn’t notable there’s always a chance they’ll nominate for deletion as here. So a good idea if you’re not certain a topic satisfies WP:GNG is to write the entry in draft space yourself and then only move it to mainspace once the case is solid. Hope that might save you some hassle going forward! Innisfree987 (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh and to make a redirect! You start the page for, say, banana, but instead of text, write #REDIRECT [[Fruit]], save, and then when someone clicks on banana it will send them to the page for fruit. Of course we would not do that for bananas, since they are notable! But if a topic is a viable search term, but not wiki-notable, you can point the search term to a related entry that is notable using a redirect this way. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:20, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Elttaruuu (talk) 05:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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Transgender history category

Hi - as I'm following a number of trans biographies, I noticed that you seem to be adding Category:Transgender history in the United States indiscriminately to quite a lot of pages. I'm not sure this is appropriate. Why are you doing this? Funcrunch (talk) 20:04, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

because trans people are deeply erased and to be visibly out as transgender changes history, not to mention most of these people have had an even more concrete impact on transgender history in the United States than just being visibly out Elttaruuu (talk) 20:25, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm trans myself, but I still don't think it's a good idea to put every U.S. trans bio into that category. Funcrunch (talk) 20:41, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I noticed these inappropriate category additions as well. Elttaruuu, please take a moment to read WP:SOAPBOX. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

(@ everyone above) having seen other editors remove the category from a few pages, I've also undone the addition of the category to some other pages. I've tentatively left it on the pages of some people who did have a long history of impact on trans history, e.g. activism since the Compton's era, but how do people feel about just removing it in general from biographies and only using it for historical events and the like? -sche (talk) 00:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

If a trans person was instrumental to some pivotal event in transgender history, or if they were to first trans person to do _x_, then it makes sense to include them in the category under discussion. But not otherwise, IMO. Funcrunch (talk) 00:58, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Probably not even then. A trans person who openly lived their life as their true self deserves to be categorized as trans writer, trans politician, etc. But a category like this isn't intended to be applied to people... it should be for articles about HISTORY: events, organizations, incidents, etc. Wikipedia:Categorization of people has some helpful guidance on this point. For example, Marsha P. Johnson doesn't need to be included in this category, because she's already in "Transgender rights activists" and categories for members of historically important groups. Jason A. Quest (talk) 02:08, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Left Communists

Hi there, please be very careful when adding categories such as you have at Paul Robeson. Unless you have a source describing someone as such, the category should not be added. In the case of PSL or Robeson (which I reverted), these are extremely dubious. Robeson visited the USSR on a number of occasions and PSL are self-described Marxist-Leninists and act as such.--User:Namiba 16:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Leith Ross (singer) for deletion

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Bearcat (talk) 21:49, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Tommy Playboy

Hi, stopping by because I’ve just trimmed a very large number of social media references from this entry. There’s plenty to read about restrictions on social media refs, especially for WP:BLPs, which include recently deceased people, but the most important thing to understand is that Wikipedia is not intended as a venue for publishing original research into primary sources like social media posts; instead the purpose is to summarize what’s already been published in reliable, fact-checked secondary sources. Adhering to this policy will also help make the notability case clear in any entries you create, since only secondary sources count for that purpose. Happy editing, Innisfree987 (talk) 22:08, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

I appreciate that you really want to support my pages and give me feedback in hopes they can be successful and fit criteria. Thank you. Elttaruuu (talk) 22:35, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Are you already acquainted with Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red? I realize biographies are women are not your exclusive focus but the project is very eager to help folks who are newer to WP get their bearings. Feel free to drop a note any time you have a question! Innisfree987 (talk) 01:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Boston Health Care for the Homeless Program

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DYK for Aubri Esters

On 25 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aubri Esters, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Aubri Esters was among the winners of a hackathon focusing on ways to reduce drug addiction and drug-related deaths? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aubri Esters. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Aubri Esters), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2023

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This is very helpful! Thank you! Elttaruuu (talk) 04:06, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Maddie Jay (April 29)

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Advice about discographies

Just a friendly bit of advice because I've seen you do this in a few articles: You don't need to cite sources for every release in an artist's discography. Unless it's a more obscure release that isn't easily findable on the artist's website or streaming platforms, it's usually assumed that the music existing is evidence of itself, and thus it's unnecessary to source it (especially if the source is just the song/album on streaming). Invisiboy42293 (talk) 16:08, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

This is helpful! Thank you! Elttaruuu (talk) 16:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

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