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Archive 1

Archive 2

Battle of Zabadani

I saw the situation developing at the article on the Battle of Zabadani. And I think we have to look at the time-frame and what the sources really do say. So I have carefully worded the article per the sources. First, I agree that it seems that a large part of the town is not under the control of the government, with the military only focusing on guarding government buildings in the town and the roads into and out of Zabadani. However, the sources are clear that the FSA itself doesn't have any control of Zabadani, with them holding positions outside the city (not being able to enter due to the checkpoints) while the ones who are actually on the streets of Zabadani are civilian opposition members who are organising the protests. Second, I do not agree the battle is ongoing because too much time has passed since the last phase. Three months, and the sources themselves state that battle ended with the military regaining control of Zabadani. So the event that the article covers is done. If there is a new event create a new article. However, as it seems, there is no actual battle for the city. The Army won the battle. Now it seems more of a situation where the military controls the critical points of the city, while they are letting the opposition protesters roam free on the streets. Again...three months, too much time has passed. All this now is for the aftermath section of the battle. EkoGraf (talk) 16:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Al-Bukamal protests

Your opinion on this issue Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Bukamal protests would be appreciated, since you have been involved a lot on the Syria conflict articles. EkoGraf (talk) 18:49, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Done. EllsworthSK (talk) 19:29, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Siege of Maarat al-Numaan

Another one. Siege of Maarat al-Numaan I proposed a delete, or a merge if at least one source is found. EkoGraf (talk) 00:26, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Bratislava

Ahoj, pozri prosim aktualnu diskusnu stranku clanku Bratislava. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.98.47.189 (talk) 19:23, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

First and Second Damascus offensives

I was thinking. What would you think about creating an article on a First Damascus offensive (back from January-February 2012) when the rebels were repelled after managing to capture the capital's suburbs for two weeks. Than a Second Damascus offensive (now). And we merge several of those small fork articles into one with the First Damascus offensive? Primarily maybe merge Battle of Douma into that article, or leave the Douma battle as a separate one because it was big and notable? Also, we redirect 2011 Rif Dimashq blockades to the First offensive article. Because that one was also created without any real references provided. EkoGraf (talk) 23:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree with the first part (creation of first battle of Damascus subrurbs, not Damascus as Douma and other cities are technically not part of Damascus), but second seems hairy. Frankly, we do not have enough informations to say who controls what, we know that rebels are active in that area and they are conducting hit and run attacks at nights but do they control the at least part of suburbs? Do they have checkpoints there as before? It is all unknown to us so maybe I´d wait with that for a while. EllsworthSK (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Ok than, I will create an article in a day or so named something like 2012 Damascus suburbs offensive. If the current fighting in the suburbs that started 3-4 days ago continues than I will rename that article to First Damascus suburbs offensive, and the current one being the Second, but will wait a bit as you say. I don't think they have any checkpoints or taken any control during the latest offensive. I think it has been more of a hit-and-run thing. And I will redirect the Rif Dimashq blockades to the first offensive article. But what about the Douma battle? Leave it as a separate article and note in the main article that it was part of the overall offensive, or merge it too? Personally I think we should merge, because most of the fighting during the offensive was in Douma, but there were still clashes in 2-3 other suburbs (towns). EkoGraf (talk) 14:12, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

They had, if you check Douma article, several journalists which were accompanying AL mission ninja´d out of Damascus hotel and went to the Douma and filmed FSA guarding entrances to the city. It was the same in other suburbs, they were completely out of government control. Frankly, large protests during daylight in the center of city are always indication that Syrian security forces are not present in the area and it is controlled by FSA. I saw smaller daylight protests in Douma recently but my personal opinion is that parts of Douma are out of government control and parts are not (something like Qusayr up until recently) as government shells areas (logically it won´t shell it´s own) in those suburbs and several tanks and IFVs were destroyed by RPG fire. And since I am already talking about Douma, merge. It was most prominent Damascus suburbs but far from the only one. Also since we are talking about merge I would propose the same thing with other Idlib forks and Homs (except the bombardment as that was prominent enough). Frankly, those articles like "Hama May 2012 offensive" "Homs month X offensive" "Idbli second shooting" are useless and I will shorty propose merge of all of them into the main which many times already covers these events. EllsworthSK (talk) 14:44, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Except for the Homs bombardment offensive I would support all your merge proposals. EkoGraf (talk) 16:54, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I wrote that Homs bombardment should be an exception given its prominence in media at time of event (although that prominence may have been diminished given that bombardment continues up until this very day). Also, could you provide your opinion on this matter [1]? EllsworthSK (talk) 17:59, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

User: Clarificationgiven

This user has been causing alot of POV pushing I see... but I can't help but think that he is actually an alternative account of the banned [[2]] . This guy I seen before on the Libyan-related pages , vandalizing things and making everything pro gaddafi. I would file a report to the administrators investigating this , and if you notice the time between in which clarification was created and the time between Justicejayant was banned is very short , and all of the sudden he is an expert on how Gaddafi was a "good guy" . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.171.51 (talk) 05:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Wrong section, try taking such matters to the talk page of the article, and try to make some contributions instead of complaining about them and stop vandalizing the sourced contents as per your own thoughts.69.46.82.36 (talk) 06:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Foreign fighters

The Washington post source at the same time confirms that 10 percent of the FSA fighters are foreign. They even cite a number of 500-900. That is not a small number and their role in the conflict has been talked about at length in many recent articles. Yes, Fatah al-Islam's group was estimated to be just 30 back in March-April and that is not much. However, recently there was an article that stated almost all of the Lebanese fighters joining the FSA are under the overall command of Fatah. And the Lebanese are estimated to be around 300 and rising. Also, the presence of Fatah is notable given they were the main instigator of the Lebanese conflict from 2007 so are thus a Lebanese player. Overall the presence of the foreigners, though still only estimated to be 10 percent of the rebels, is still highly notable. It's being mentioned constantly in the media as being the main fear of not just the various governments who barely support the rebels but of the rebels themselves. Just today there was a CNN report in which an FSA commander confirmed the foreign presence is still small but that he is highly concerned that their numbers are rising. So the foreigners are a combatant in the conflict however you look at it. Oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you, recently a US government official stated the number of FSA to be a lot smaller than the 40,000 figure, he cited a number of 10,000-20,000 to CNN. I have cited the source in the infobox as a lower estimate of the number of rebels while leaving the higher 40,000 figure. EkoGraf (talk) 17:42, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I put my reply from here on the main talk page of the Syrian war article as well so to keep the continuity of that discussion going. I didn't see it before, saw it only after you pointed me to it. EkoGraf (talk) 17:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Government death toll

I have removed from the main article on the conflict the death toll provided by the government because it was becoming out-of-date. The last civilian deaths number was back from March, 3,600, the last rebel deaths number was back from September of last year, 700, since than they only sporadicly updated that, and the last number for security forces deaths was a week ago, when it was approaching 4,000 and came in line with the SOHR number. If a new and fresh number is provided by the government I will add it. For now the numbers are SOHR, VDC, UN, Shuhada and the LCC. But I'm thinking of removing the LCC number because they have not provided a solid overall number for two months now. Will have to think about that some more. EkoGraf (talk) 18:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem here. If you want, I can look on LCC website tomorrow (or rather today) and see if I find any death toll. However I would appreciate if you´d respond on my post here Talk:Syrian_uprising_(2011–present)#Military_infobox_and_civil_infobox. Thanks. EllsworthSK (talk) 23:01, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Replied yesterday. And I would be glad if you could look up the LCC website for a figure. I tried looking around it but found no number. There is a page on the site that says Statistics but when I click on it it comes out blank, nothing on it. Cheers! EkoGraf (talk) 00:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

"Read the sources"

Interestingly the BBC actually changed their article (note it was updated at around the same time I added my comments) - it did originally say the helicopter incident was at Tripoli. Number 57 15:30, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I apologize for the tone than. I meant no offence. EllsworthSK (talk) 15:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Good work on improving the article. Number 57 17:07, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Where are you getting the results from? Number 57 09:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I posted source in above text. It is Libya Herald EllsworthSK (talk) 09:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Number 57 09:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

July 2011 Homs operation

Proposed a merger, at the articles talk page, to the main article on the Siege of Homs. EkoGraf (talk) 01:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Midan

I think we should maybe make an article called Battle of Midan or Midan raid or July 2012 Damascus raid. What you think? EkoGraf (talk) 03:28, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, we should make a section about it in main article, but not create any more forks. It remains to be seen how significant this clashes will become. EllsworthSK (talk) 09:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

[3] Continuing for a third day, and the rebels are calling it a deliberate operation on their part called Damascus Volcano. So I think its notable. EkoGraf (talk) 13:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

True, but I´d still wait till its over and than decide. Just to be sure. EllsworthSK (talk) 14:19, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok. :) EkoGraf (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Bombing

Done. EkoGraf (talk) 19:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Kurds

First, I totally agree with you in regards to adding the Kurds, but no need for a third coloumn since they haven't engaged in open conflict with the opposition. One skirmish doesn't mean open war with the opposition. Since they are anti-Assad just add them to the anti-Assad coloumn. But separate them with a line like we have done with the mujahedeen and the official syrian opposition since the kurds have not alligned themselves with ether. Anyway, the mujahedeen have also skirmished at least once with the opposition but we still put them all in the same coloumn. Also, if you would read the same source you put, since that one skirmish on 3 July the Kurds and the opposition have reached an agreement to let the FSA operate in Arab areas if they leave them alone and have offered to even smuggle weapons to the FSA across the Turkish border. That would even imply that they are on some level allies. EkoGraf (talk) 14:53, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I´ve been talking to one Iraqi Kurd for past few weeks about Kurdish position in the Syria as western media nearly completely ignore this minority and focuses solely on sunnis, Alawites and Christians. As you can see on the talk, firstly editors wanted to add them to pro-Assad collum, because of that skirmish and PYD not allowing FSA entering Kurdish areas. But from what several sources I posted says and what I learned is that PYD is anti-Turkish in everything that can be. They see FSA as Turkish allies and even though PYD and KNC does not like Assad for the way he has been treating Kurds (destruction of culture, language, names, removal of citizenship, that concession was farce and only 6,000 Kurds were able to get Syrian citizienship), they do not trust FSA as well and so their position is very simple. Keep out of Kurdish areas, we will keep out of Arab areas, you take down the regime in Arab areas, we will deal with it in Kurdistan. And that agreement in Iraqi Kurdistan was between KNC and PYD. Clashes happened between Salahedin battalion, Kurdish battalion of FSA, and PYD (although PYD claims that those were "Kurds" who chased them out). Even though yesterday both PYD and FSA militias cooperated in protection of protesters in Salahedin neighbourhood of Aleppo, I still do not think that it is smart to make 2 collums. Kurds have their own agenda, as in Iraq. They want their Syrian Kurdistan, just as they have Iraqi Kurdistan. They are not helping FSA in their fight against regime in Hama, Homs and other provinces, they are forcing out both FSA and regime out of their territories. That FSA does not have a foothold of their territories is just by a chance. EllsworthSK (talk) 15:37, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Though that may be, and I actually may agree with you, we have to base our edits on verified sources. And most at the moment, with the exception of that one skirmish, present them as, at best, distant buddies (weapons smuggling, joint protection of protesters, agreement on territory). If that changes in the near future we gonna discuss it again. EkoGraf (talk) 16:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok you start and we see where to go from there. EkoGraf (talk) 12:30, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Aleppo 2012

there is really a battle in Aleppo between the Free Syrian Army and the Syrian Army (Alhanuty (talk) 19:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)) .

And it is also a WP:CFORK. We already have article which deals with Aleppo. EllsworthSK (talk) 19:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Forgot totally about Al-Bukamal protests. You want to redirect and merge it to the timeline article or do I do it? EkoGraf (talk) 19:27, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Please, do it. I am tired and am going to get some sleep. EllsworthSK (talk) 20:15, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Should we maybe change our arguments from merge to keep at the Battle of Aleppo article? Because it seems it has really escalated into a full-on battle for the city now like in Damascus and maybe even more and its highly notable in the media. EkoGraf (talk) 19:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I am thinkg about it as well. I´ll take another day for it and see how it escalates. EllsworthSK (talk) 20:07, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Casualties article

Should we maybe create an article and move most of the casualties section to it with only a sumarization in the main article on the conflict? EkoGraf (talk) 01:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Maybe yes, the main page is already too big as it is and it takes sometimes minutes for me to load it. It is especially frustrating when I want to edit it and meanwhile someone makes some minor edit. Taking some pressure off of it can´t be that bad. EllsworthSK (talk) 13:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I will see to try and cook up something. :) EkoGraf (talk) 13:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Done, what do you think Casualties of the Syrian civil war? EkoGraf (talk) 16:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Cool. Not too long, easy to navigate, I like it. Also easily updated. EllsworthSK (talk) 17:00, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Jihadist border crossing

Sorry, I wrote badly before, I got confused about parts of that source article and wrote wrongly. My bad. I have now written properly. Hope its ok this time. :) EkoGraf (talk) 15:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Can I have the Washington post article link

Finally some rationality rather than fearmongering. I7laseral (talk) 14:05, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict

Looks like User:DanielUmel has reported you for breaking the 3rv rule or something.

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:EllsworthSK_reported_by_User:DanielUmel_.28Result:_.29

Sopher99 (talk) 20:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Cute. EllsworthSK (talk) 22:20, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

SOHR rebel toll

An editor has expressed reservation at my attempt to combine SOHR-only day-to-day numbers of rebels killed into a unified death toll and wants to remove the full toll on the basis that it is OR if the full toll itself was not cited. I have stated that I agree with him if the figures were coming from different organisations, but in this case it is coming from one organisation with its own constant methodology. I have proposed that the toll be removed temporarily until the discussion is resolved and we include other editors. Your opinion would be appreciated. Discussion here Talk:Casualties of the Syrian civil war. EkoGraf (talk) 12:26, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Should we maybe close this discussion Talk:July 2011 Homs operation? Seems the administrators forgot about it hehe. EkoGraf (talk) 13:17, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Shit, forgot about this. I´ll close it. EllsworthSK (talk) 09:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Syrian Flag

Please check out the article Flag of Syria. User:DanielUmel is—like usual—edit warring and causing problems there. Hopefully we can gain consensus with the views of editors like you, consensus which the aforementioned user claims does not exist. حرية (talk) 14:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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Possible signing issue

This: Chyba citácie Značky sú prítomné, ale nebola nájdená žiadna značka

It keeps on showing up wherever you leave a talk page message. I suspect it is a signature issue (as in: ~~~~). حرية 10:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Weird. Everything looks fine from here. EllsworthSK (talk) 13:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

And when I am signed off as well. 95.103.20.70 (talk) 13:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Al Qaeda on Aleppo page

I just read again the talk page and it appears that you are the only one wanting to remove Al Qaeda from the infobox. Me and user Wustenfuchs are in favour of letting them in. --DanielUmel (talk) 13:07, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Than read again. You ignored the talk, me and Wustenfuchs meanwhile agreed on compromise. Anyone was free to join it. EllsworthSK (talk) 13:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I also oppose having Al Qaeda there. Stop misrepresenting things constantly. حرية (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

2012 Aleppo Governorate clashes

I have reorganised a bit the article and renamed it to clashes to be in line with the titles of the other articles. Since the clashes itself started in February 2012 I have left out 2011 in the title. I put the protests, which were minimal, in the background section like its in the other articles. What do you think? Looking better? EkoGraf (talk) 20:42, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. I think even Greyshark will like it. Bytheway what will we do with that Kurdish issue on battle of Aleppo page.

PS: I wasn´t much active in recent days and for next two weeks I won´t be as I will be aboard. EllsworthSK (talk) 21:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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Battle of Al-Qusayr

I deleted the section titled Christian exodus created by DanielUmel , who we have found out is really ChronicalUsual. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/DanielUmel Sopher99 (talk) 01:50, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Wow. I mean, wow. He had over 40 sock-puppet accounts. This guy will be back, I would treat any new editor who starts adding articles from SANA with suspicion. EllsworthSK (talk) 11:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Sockpuppets

I'd be surprised if Dimitrish is a sockpuppet. He'd almost certainly have been caught in the initial checkuser if he was. While he certainly edits from a similar POV, he's not a standoffish jackass like "Daniel", and he also seems to have a much poorer command of English. I'll keep an eye on him, though. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 23:18, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

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Battle of Damascus (2012)

Your take on the situation here Talk:Battle of Damascus (2012) to find a compromise could help. That Arabic name user is trying to make it look like the July battle/rebel offensive is still ongoing and it didn't end. I tried to explain to him that that article covers only the rebel's push for control of the city back in July, which failed, and that we already have two separate articles covering the current fighting in and around Damascus (Rif Dimashq offensive and 2011–2012 Damascus clashes). But he is being un-compromising. I know you at the time expressed the opinion that the battle ended, however I am asking you to join the discussion because, even though we can disagree on issues from time to time, you always had a way to propose a compromise that was agreeable to the majority of people, which I would also follow. Bottom line, I appreciate you as a compromising negotiator who can find middle ground for both parties. EkoGraf (talk) 14:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Maarrat al-Nu'man

Should we create a battle article for that city? Been in the news for two days and it seems 60 people (40 civilians and 20 rebels) have been killed in the fighting there, unknown number of government troops dead. Or should we maybe wait a few more days to see if it escalates? EkoGraf (talk) 20:12, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

That city has been fought over before, frankly maybe we could incorporate it into the 2011–2012 Idlib Governorate clashes for the moment. EllsworthSK (talk) 01:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok. EkoGraf (talk) 13:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Battle becoming more notable. Army counter-attack today, 30 rebels killed, bringing rebel/civilian toll to 100. Another 50 defectors reportedly executed in the city. Will wait until tomorrow. If more news of heavy fighting comes out tomorrow I will proceed and create an article for it. In the meantime, all the info we do have on the current fighting I have included in 2011–2012 Idlib Governorate clashes as you said. Check it out and make corrections if you think they are needed. EkoGraf (talk) 20:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

May be we have to create battle bacause government forces starting operation to take control of city. Here is source: http://www.itar-tass.com/c45/563241.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.40.118.68 (talk) 18:45, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Aleppo

Heawy fightings in Aleppo - region Al-Zehraa. I can not find it on map. Local pepoles say: 'This is heavies fight from beginning of war.' Position is near military airforce inteligence building at nord east part of city???? link: http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_398523024 May be translation is not correct or this part of city si not good described on map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.84.86.14 (talk) 12:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

In Aleppo on Monday were released from armed groups the areas adjacent to the roundabout Liramun the north of the city. http://www.itar-tass.com/c45/563859.html Any other sources for that? And by the way is this outside map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.84.86.14 (talk) 11:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I have to admit that I lost you here. Regardless, I am not following Aleppo battle that closely, try to bring it to its talk page. Several users there will be more informed about such events than I am. EllsworthSK (talk) 12:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Libya

Sorry for the late response. When I helped in creating the Libyan factional fighting article my intent was to branch out the info from the Aftermath article into a separate one which would deal with the continuing conflict/clashes aspect of the aftermath, while the Aftermath article itself would talk also about the Politics, Economy etc. I agree that certain things that don't belong in the Libyan factional fighting article have ended up there, namely the political wrangling, and I think that they should be removed and moved to the overall Aftermath article. But I think that the Factional fighting article needs to be a separate article because it talks about one aspect of the Aftermath of the civil war which is separate from the other problematic issues plaguing the country right now. Sidenote, do you think we should create an article on the rebel siege of the government-loyal town of Harem in Idlib that has been going on for the last 3 weeks? It has been poping up in the news on occasion lately. EkoGraf (talk) 16:39, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I can agree with that, but I do not think that vast majority of article fits that description. It is not only about political struggle but every clash, even between families which pops out on Reuters, AFP, APA, Libya Herald or elsewhere finds its way into the article even though, frankly, it is unimportant from the larger perspective. What about this force example User:EllsworthSK/sandbox/Libya_interfactional. I took out unimportant stuff (and even though much remained).

As for Harem according to this source all but ancient fortress already has fallen under rebel control. IDK if we need article for that. Id rather use it in Idlib article. EllsworthSK (talk) 20:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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December 2012

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Thanks. al-Mukalla Later reliable source reported that al-Qaeda in Yemen stormed the center of the port city of al-Mukalla in the Hadhramaut province.Albawaba Hanibal911 (talk) 15:55, 2 April 2015 (UTC) Also you marked several towns as under control by Yemeni troops here on based pro government source but this is not correct. This source biased. But earlier other source confirmed that these towns of under control of AQ.here Hanibal911 (talk) 16:09, 2 April 2015 (UTC) Sources Firstly we cant use amateur video from YouTube(not reliable source according to Wikipedia rules) and secondly we cant use pro opposition sources for displayed success of rebels. And your video filmed in the morning or in the afternoon but the evening pro opposition source confirmed that SAA recaptured Ziyarah, Tanmiyah checkpoint, Kunsfra & Tall Qastun, street clashes in Qastun.here And I beg you to remember that we can not use all pro opposition sources including amateur video to display success for the rebels. I hope for your understanding. Is this a joke? We cannot use YouTube vids (which have been used fe on battle of Aleppo page for 3 years now as independent audiovisual proofs of advances), but here, have a tweet? Fact check - rebels released a proof that they are in control of Ziyarah. Regime released nothing such. When it will, we can talk. Just as I said. EllsworthSK (talk) 09:41, 28 April 2015 (UTC) The main thing that I wanted to say to you is that your source pro opposition and in accordance with the rules of editing which earlier were agreed between editors we cant use pro government sources against moderate rebels (including Al Nsura) and the pro opposition sources against the Syrian troops. Hanibal911 (talk) 10:33, 28 April 2015 (UTC) The main thing is that rules were agreed upon back in 2011/2 and were in place for a long time. Regarding pro-oppo and pro-regime, we agreed that sources that falls under "untrustable" are only textual. Fe if SANA sayd that SAA took over Aleppo, we don't care. If SOHR says that SAA took over Aleppo, we take it as fact. What you provided to me was not one of those official or semi official agencies (SANA, Masdar, SOHR, Akhbar, Orient news et cetera), you provide a tweet of some bloke from Sarajevo who is not a journalist, nor is on a ground and doesn't seem to have any relation with people in Syria what-so-ever. Can you see how nonsensical that is? Up to that, we agreed that audiovisual proofs are enough. Fe if Syrian state TV releases a footage of Syrian army in, say, Douma, its ok. That is a proof. By the same logic, if rebels release a footage in, say, Aleppo Citadel we take it as granted. In this case rebels did release several footages where they control Zirayah. Regime sources countered and said they are in control. The difference between those two are that while rebels provided audiovisual proof, regime did not. One state TV reporter released a photos that should've prooved it. I don't know what she was thinking as she fotographed herself at the entrance to the village. But to the village of Joureen. Up to that, rebels released additional video today from Zariyah here. Let me remind you that last time I got into this discussion was because thank to your edits and reverts Al Queda in Arabic Peninsula suddenly got a country by the size of Poland. Without any sources but jpg images on some media that wouldn't be reliable no matter how I tried, not to mention that they were clear CIRC. I told you its BS, I provided sources its BS and it turned out to be BS. I have been here at wiki for nearly 7 years and edited Syrian and Libyan civil war pages for past 4. I am not just another shmuck who came and didn't know what the hell am I doing. So, if I say something, you can check it with the rules and experience of other editors. Generally I don't go into these things if I don't have a certainty (unlike many others that I have criticizied in the past). EllsworthSK (talk) 15:26, 28 April 2015 (UTC) P.S.: You are rellying way too much on twitter. That is a huge mistake. There are some quality things, generally from journalists on the ground. But there is mountaintop of the BS, what I assumed is well known, but doesn't appear to be. Take it with truckload of salt. EllsworthSK (talk) 15:30, 28 April 2015 (UTC) Second Battle of Idlib Do me a favor and monitor this article as well the 2015 Jisr al-Shughur offensive article. I'm certain EkoGraf is going to try and pull this same stunt when declaring the opposition victory on this article also, despite the hugely broad coalition of forces and notable FSA contribution. He is already trying to erase mention of the the FSA brigades involved the the battle despite it being meticulously referenced. Nulla Taciti (talk) 10:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC) @Nulla Taciti: I removed it because the NYT source, which was the only one you cited for the sentence, made no mention of ether the 1st Coastal Division or the notable gunner. Only after my edit (that you linked here) did you add the Stratfor source. So, meticulously referenced? Also, no stunts, only requests for proper references per WP: Verifiability. And accusing someone of making stunts is not per WP: Assume good faith. EkoGraf (talk) 23:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC) Formal mediation has been requested The Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Cities and towns in the war in Iraq and the Levant". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. 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