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Can you not add "see also" links to Alucard Tepes to articles which have nothing to do with Castlevania other than a common vampire theme? If there is any connection whatsoever between Anne Rice's novels and this videogame character, you'll need to explain it in a little more depth. —Stormie 01:47, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)

The Pandora's Box (musical group) link did not belong in Original sin. It belongs under Pandora's Box with the other disambiguation links. -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 23:03, 2004 Dec 26 (UTC)

Manx article

I have responded on the article's talk page. Lachatdelarue (talk) 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: My two cents

Hi EliasAlucard,

Looking at both your message, it'll be a good idea for a start to list on Article content disputes of Request for Comments and see how others respond based on all the evidence over that talkpage.

- Mailer Diablo 21:23, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Good idea, I'll do that immediately.

moving the Manx article

Please discuss page moves before doing it. I spent a lot of time figuring out if the word "cat" was part of a breed name, or if it needed to be used in parentheses as a disambiguation of the word. most cat breeds do not have the word "cat" in them, the Manx included. "(cat)" is used in that article's title to differentiate it from the Manx article. I am going to move the article back to Manx (cat). Check the Manx breed standards to see that they refer to the breed as "Manx" not "Manx cat", as opposed to say, the Norwegian Forest Cat.

Hi there- I noticed that you tagged this image with the delete template. The delete template is only used to mark Wikipedia:Candidates for speedy deletion, and should only be used on corrupt images or non-orphaned duplicate images. If this image is infact a duplicate of another image, please use the more verbose template {{isd|Image:new image name}}. If not, then list it on Wikipedia:Images for deletion in the standard deletion process for images. Cheers. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:37, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

How do I list it on images for deletion? What template? It's 600 kb or something, so I uploaded a new version that's 90 kb, much more friendly for the 56k users and wikipedia's servers.
EliasAlucard|Talk 17:40, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
You tagged it with {{delete}} which is really reserved for articles that are patent nonsense or meet the Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Now that you've uploaded the new image, the correct way to tag it would be {{isd|Image:new image name}}. Cheers, DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:14, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
Uhh, sorry I think I confused you. When using the isd template, replace "new image name" with the name of the new image that you have uploaded to replace the old image. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:21, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
Perfect! Sorry to make you jump through the bureaucratic hoops, but it really does make our admin jobs a lot easier when the right templates are used. Thanks again, DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:46, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
Hehe, no problem man. I just didn't get it at first. Glad to help you out.
EliasAlucard|Talk 18:47, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

UserPage Vandalism

    • 20:36, 5 May 2005 Mailer diablo blocked "User:User:FuckEliasAlucard" with an expiry time of infinite (Personal attack of another user, both edits and username)

Re: Cerberus

Hi EliasAlucard,

OK then, as upon request. I actually thought that once users discuss on the talkpage they are unlikely to revert again, but then I may be wrong. In case I forgot, let me or any other admins know when thing are ressolved so that the page can be unprotected.

- Regards, Mailer Diablo 19:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Re: Underworld

You write "If you're going to list almost the entire disamb page here, then there's no need of having the disamb page, right?" to which the answer is "wrong". It is sensible that where there is a clear probability that readers of one page are most likely to want a distinct related page - as here where looking at one film will very likely lead to looking at the others with the similar title - then it is sensible to detail those with direct links. Likewise the main disambig page as a separate entry. Please do not revert again, thanks. --Vamp:Willow 17:43, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

If you look at a number of articles, you'll find it isn't an absolute standard. In this case I noted earlier that there are at least six films by the name 'Underworld' and most only linked elsewhere within the article (no disambig at all); cross-linking at the 'film' level therefore made sense as the internal links (ie meaning of 'Underworld') still remain. We're here to make life easy for readers! Rgds. --Vamp:Willow 17:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

MPEG-4

Thanks. It's encouraging. --Boticario 15:12, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Firefox market share

I changed things to: "estimates of Firefox's usage share range between 8 to 10% of the overall web browser market, with up to 25% usage share of particular segments of the market". Really, the 25% figures are unrepresentative of the overall browser market, and do not claim to be so. W3Schools, for example, is a site for very Web-savvy developers, who are much more likely to use a standards-compliant browser for development. Similary, Germany is the country with the highest FF usage share in the world, and is not typical. Compare this with countries with relatively low FF penetration such as the U.S. and China, and this drags the figures back down. -- The Anome 09:23, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

All right, that's cool and probably more accurate. It's just that it feels like the Firefox usage share has been 10% since the release of Firefox 1.0 and I'm sure that it has to be higher now.
EliasAlucard|Talk 11:27, 30 May, 2005 (UTC)

Katie Holmes picture

I reverted back her picture to a resized version. I have never heard that we need to use a smaller size in order to save the bandwidth of wikipedia. I don't think we should adopt this kind of practice arbitrarily. Besides, I don't think using a small version makes a considerable difference. Say if every reader is unsatisfied with a small version and goes to a big one by clicking it, we don't save any but rather waste much. Maybe I am missing something, so please let me know more about this. -- Taku 10:31, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

You make a very valid point. But I've seen pictures that are in full size, and stuff like that. This is not good for Wikipedia. Their servers are overloaded as it is. Whilst it may be so that many users will click on the picture to enlargen it, in order to see it in full size, not everyone will. This will save a lot of bandwidth for Wikipedia. I don't know how it is for you, but for me, Wikipedia is painfully slow, yet I have a very fast broadband connection. More often than not, the thumb size is a more than enough of a good general size for pictures.
EliasAlucard|Talk 12:52, 10 Jun, 2005 (UTC)
No, no, I do see your motive, but I need numbers about saving and consensus among people; for example, wikipedia is indeed slow to me too but I am not convinced that using a small version mitigate this problem. For another, since I don't think this practice has been adopted widely, if not me, someone in the future would certainly enlarge the picture, like other articles. In sum, we need the numbers and the consensus to apply this kind of practice. -- Taku 22:42, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)


Dolby vs DTS Article

I've replied to your question in the discussion section of the article. --Zacha. 15:17, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Condemnant qui non intellegent

Hi, I wonder about the grammar of this phrase (I do think it is a phrase rather than a proverb; but I guess it could be in either list, really). "intelligent" is future tense, which does not make much sense here; the present tense should be "intelligunt". But as a matter of fact, "intelligent", though probably wrong, is the only version Google can find for me. Do you happen to know the source of the phrase? Regards, T.a.k. 18:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Nice anagram, Mr Alucard ;-)

Hi there. To be honest with you, I'm no Latin expert. I don't know the language, but I've studied French years ago, which is derived from Latin, but not the same language. Just Google for the sentence, and you'll find it. It's found a little bit everywhere on 'Latin quotes' sites. Hope that helped you out. And thanks for the P.S. :) Now I got to lift some weights (weight training). Later.
EliasAlucard|Talk 21:11, 14 Jun, 2005 (UTC)
Ah, sports! It's been a while... The thirtysome quotes I googled appear to more or less copy from each other. I guess I'll just be brave, correct the grammar, and start a brand new tradition. O.K. with you? T.a.k. 20:08, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm back :) Did some Biceps training. Well, I'm all for it if it's wrong as it is now, but I got a suggestion before you do it: check the Latin version of Wikipedia. I'm sure someone there knows this better than both of us. By the way, do you have any notable skills in Latin, or are you just guessing? Not to offend you or anything, just curious.
EliasAlucard|Talk 22:27, 14 Jun, 2005 (UTC)
Ahem. <pighead mode> I am a Latin teacher, and my Latin is, in all modesty, certainly above average. In fact, I tend to avoid the Latin Wikipedia for its poor Latin... </pighead mode> ;-). Seriously, I do know a bit about Latin grammar. Not that it's made me a rich and famous person... T.a.k. 20:50, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Oh shit! :) Well then, I'm not going to ask for proof or anything, I'll just take your word for it. By the way, thanks for the compliment, made me feel "down to earth" ;) One thing though, could you perhaps edit more on the Latin Wikipedia? I'd personally love to start reading it, and look up every word possible, just to learn, but so far, I've avoided doing so because as you put: its poor Latin. Not that I'm any expert and able to distinguish what's good Latin, and what is not, but I suspected it from the beginning. Would be cool if you could bring some colleagues too so they could help you out. I think Latin is an awesome language, and needs to be preserved. Wikipedia is a good way of doing just that. By the way, the Castlevania hero Alucard in the video game Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is where I got the anagram from. Pretty much a badass fictional character.
EliasAlucard|Talk 23:04, 14 Jun, 2005 (UTC)
Two points: 1) Most of the instances I can find on Google have it as condemnant quod non intelligunt (they condemn because they do not understand; alternatively, and this is just my GCSE Latin, they condemn what they do not understand); 2) Could it not be a subjunctive? smoddy 21:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I just found that version on Google... I added it in the proverbs C section. It sounds better (the English part), but I don't know if the Latin is accurate. Like I said, I'm no expert.
EliasAlucard|Talk 23:55, 14 Jun, 2005 (UTC)
From further looking, that would appear to be completely correct. However, I am pretty much sure that your original phrase could be rendered "they condemn so that they might not understand", which, while interesting, seems less likely... Cheers, smoddy 22:01, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Nope, subjunctive would be intelligant. Yup, the phrase "quod non intelligunt" makes perfect sense and is most likely the correct version. Wish I could find the source... Because/what is only a matter of taste; I don't think many Romans could have been bothered to tell the difference. @Alucard: Thanks for the links; things like that always help me vis a vis my students to pretend I actually know what they are talking about ;-) T.a.k. 22:30, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I moved it to this list instead. Check it up and let me know what you think. This is the source I used. Don't know if it's reliable, but it seems okay with me. Any objections?
EliasAlucard|Talk 00:49, 15 Jun, 2005 (UTC)
From the perspective of a humble Latin student, I would have to agree with T.a.k. (BTW, is Intellige(u)nt 3rd or 4th declension? I'm travelling right now and unfortunately, don't have my Latin dictionary with me). Intelligent (if it was 3rd or 4th declension) would be future, and "intelligunt" would be present. Flcelloguy Cello today? Give me a note! d.c. al fine? Desk 01:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've created an article now for this phrase. Please expand it so that we can get to the core with the absolute truth of this latin phrase. I'd like to know who said it, etc. Thanks. Condemnant quod non intellegunt
EliasAlucard|Talk 15:14, 24 November, 2005 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood my reason for deleting [1] the URL http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/lunch04-oct18.html from Angel's trumpets (plant). Although the link includes a summary of the story (among several other things), the link to the story itself [2] from that page does not work any more. I think it's fine to link to two news articles, but linking to a personal page where the relevant link isn't working is sort of gratuitous. Brighterorange 04:45, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I understand. I just wanted to give a more credible source, and that was the most reliable one. The link you allowed to stay was more of a blog, although fairly detailed and accurate.
EliasAlucard|Talk 16:41, 25 Jul, 2005 (UTC)
Wait, now I'm really confused. There were two links; one was to a completely respectable news source (the observer [3]) and the other to a personal web site (luc devroye [4]). I removed the link to the personal website, particularly because the page linked to a news article that was no longer online. One link to a real news source should be plenty, so based on your apparent misunderstanding of what I changed, I'm re-reverting to remove the personal page link and keep only the link to the observer. Brighterorange 19:53, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
It wasn't broken. You didn't provide the entire link. Here it is: [5] The ananova link is probably broken because this happened quite a while ago, but I bet that when this incident just happened, the link wasn't broken. After all, he quoted the ananova story. I'll try to find better sources later.
EliasAlucard|Talk 22:01, 25 Jul, 2005 (UTC)
  • Huh? The ananova link is the link I'm talking about! Yes, it is broken, and no, wikipedia should not make external references to pages that don't exist any more. Since the personal page is a summary of a news article, it doesn't make a good source. I'm happy to have good sources for this article, if you find more news articles. Brighterorange 04:10, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Anne Rice vandal

Please add my talk page to your watchlist. I am being harassed by the Anne Rice vandal. Hall Monitor 15:57, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Done. He's been harassing me too. I reverted his edits on my talk page. I'll revert yours too if you don't beat me too it :) Anyway, he's been pissing me off, I've contacted an op, but I don't know if he has read it yet. Thanks for your help by the way.
EliasAlucard|Talk 18:01, 27 Jul, 2005 (UTC)
I'll take a look at it shortly. If your request is urgent and is a presistant vandal, consider dropping an alert at Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 19:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Stub articles

You might want to give Wikipedia:Stubs a good read. Daniella Cicarelli, as it was before I edited it, was a fair candidate for speedy deletion - see WP:CSD. Cheers. --Sn0wflake 23:27, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I really didn't know anything about her, and was hoping that someone (like yourself) would fill me in on the details. It's really difficult to find facts about her on the internet. I searched quite some sites and to no avail. I mean, she's not exactly super famous like Brad Pitt, you know?
EliasAlucard|Talk 06:20, 31 Jul, 2005 (UTC)

Alucard

Looks like DreamGuy has moved it again. Just FYI. Devilbat

Yes. I would like nothing more than to punch him right in his face for his annoying and vandalism-like edits, and of course, his immature behaviour. EliasAlucard|Talk 06:31, 09 Aug, 2005 (UTC)
He's also vandalizing user pages now. sigh. Devilbat
Actually... no... The "vandalism" you claim is actually tagging you and another user as sockpuppets, which you are, and other admins put the tag back when you (using anonymous IPs) constantly take it off. The fact that several editors have restored them proves it's not vandalism.
And, by the way Elias, you might want to avoid letting this guy talk you into anything, he's one of several sockpuppets put together by a guy who is banned for a year from all edits for contant vandalism, POV wars and, of course, extreme sockpuppeting. Every time he's caught and proven (which seems every week or so at this point) his block is extended a year from that point. Following that guy's advice is just going to lead you down that path to more POV warring and policy breaking, and you're already too far along to go much further without getting into trouble yourself. DreamGuy 04:07, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
Be that as it may, I think you're insulting my intelligence when you assume that I don't understand that he just wants an ally for his benefits. Second: I am not "already too far along to go much further without getting into trouble yourself." You are, however. And DreamGuy, accept yourself of being wrong in this case. Don't be a stubborn asshole just to feel that you're right (when you're not) and see if you can get away with it. If anyone, you're the one who's always into trouble.
EliasAlucard|Talk 12:52, 09 Aug, 2005 (UTC)
And now you are making personal insults again. See Wikipedia:Civility. Others have been blocked for that kind of behavior recently. You need to reassess the situation here because I don't think you are looking at it realistically. DreamGuy 11:57, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
As opposed to you, who is being civil? Please, go read it yourself. EliasAlucard|Talk 14:03, 09 Aug, 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I am trying very hard to be civil here. Have I swore at you? Have I called you names? I've concentrated on your behavior and not you as a person. I'm giving you friendly warnings on people you should probably avoid, things to do to stay out of trouble (looks like you didn't listen to me on the 3RR thing though), and how you can try to work together instead of blind reverting whatever I do -- because that simply won't fly, regardless of who you do it too, me or someone else. I am being extremely civil with you here, but you respond by making more personal attacks. DreamGuy 12:28, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
Don't you come here and play innocent with me. I've been around for quite some time, to know your behaviour. You've used bad language several times before. So you've managed to get me blocked now, when you know I don't deserve it. Are you happy now? Was this the best day of your life?
EliasAlucard|Talk 14:30, 09 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

Hello. About this problem. I actually think Alucard should perhaps point to a small disambiguation page. Like I said already, for some reason, I think that page existed before. I'm really not sure. I think we should all consider the existence of other Alucards. I think that, if we ask 100 people that know anything about Alucard, some 50% would mention Hellsing, while other 50% would mention Castlevania. Nowadays, I think it's more like that (if we disconsider the "lesser" Alucards). Even if Google searches don't show it. But I'm not sure. I think an action right now from my part wouldn't do much. It'd be reverted right away. I think some pages need protection. I, however, shouldn't be the one doing that. Because of what I already said, I'm already involved in the dispute. Doing something right now would be bad, since admins shouldn't take actions in disputes they are involded with. Weird, huh? I think so too. What you probably should do is to open a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard, in order to bring other admins to this. Neutral ones. Sorry if this is all I can help with right now.--Kaonashi 13:19, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

There is a disambiguation page. DreamGuy has ruined it. Alucard (disambiguation). It showed up fine in the Alucard article, since I used Template:otheruses, but now since DreamGuy has been so persistent in his vandalism behaviour, it's been changed to Alucard (Castlevania) (disambiguation) on the front page. Everything was fine until he came along and started to vandalise the article with his stupid redirects and everything. I have now been blocked because of him, and I did not deserve it, I cannot edit anything. If you want to help me out Mackeriv, you're welcome to do that. I mailed Geni, who blocked me, but he doesn't care about DreamGuy and his behaviour.
EliasAlucard|Talk 15:24, 09 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

Aaaaah, now we're talking. That's what I'm talking about. That page shouldn't be ignored here. It's very important. Alucard should point to it, where people will have a choice. A chance to finding the article they want to see. Maybe the Hellsing one should have a little larger description on that page, though. There is a full article about him. I believe he is indeed important. Alucard could point to Tepes, the Castlevania Alucard, but I don't know. We could maybe be all neutral and let it point to the disambiguation page.

So you're telling me there is some error with the template now? Hmm. I'm not sure of what could have provoked that. As a last resort, you can always create the disambiguation tag by yourself. The tag can be created just like you want it to be. No real problems on that.

About administrators in general, from what I saw, I believe they have a tendency to avoid even looking inside disputes. They pretty much just do what needs to be done, and avoid getting into revert wars and things like that. I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing. What you should be doing is bringing other people into this. Open up a discussion at the Administrators' noticeboard. State the problem there. Use simple statements, and only show people what's really going on with these articles. No need to mention that other user. Just explain people what's going on, briefly, and hope they will use common sense and take the best decisions. Also ask them to protect at least one of those pages. I think that'd be reasonable.

As for me, I think I will try refraining from this. I'm sorry. Whenever I take part on something like this, I end up being damaged. It's a real problem. Anyway, I hope everything goes fine.--Kaonashi 13:59, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I didn't touch the Alucard (disambiguation) page. Any potential problem with a template there is not related to me. The disambiguation page was already a separate article, the main Alucard page was only about Castlevania, so I moved that to Alucard (Castlevania). He immediately moved it back. I moved it again, and I had to do something to prevent him from moving it back right away (which is nly possible when it's moved to a page redirect to the one your moving), so I redirected it to the first place that made sense to me: Dracula. Then because the redirect went elsewhere he was unable to simply blind revert it. At that point I looked some more and found the disambig page, but didn't know whether to go to Dracula and then disambig the top of that to Alucard diambig or go straight to the current Alucard disambig. Which one doesn't bother me. What did bother me was Elias here without discussion immediately trying to undo all of it insisting he was right. He did the same thing on Dhampir and other articles. But of course he's now trying to point the blame for something else entirely. Per usual. DreamGuy 14:20, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I see what he's sayin about the template... man, that's an easy fix. You can either do it by hand (indent italicize type you r statement link) or in this case just remove it completely, as since the page is now not the base page it doesn't need to disambiguate elsewhere. So I did that. Not sure why that was such a big production. Since Kaonashi said he wanted the base to go to the disambig page, and I don't have a problem wth it, I'll go ahead and do that too. Cheers. DreamGuy 14:49, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
"What did bother me was Elias here without discussion immediately trying to undo all of it insisting he was right." You're a trouble maker. There's no point of discussing anything with you, because it's not possible to reach you. You will always love to be the minority. Despite consensus against you. You will not change your opinion.
EliasAlucard|Talk 19:17, 09 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't read the conversation, I just wanted to know more about User:EliasAlucard. :)

I thought this would be a good section to ask you, Elias, if you're talking here about Alucard, where's your Elias part? :P

Where's your "about me"? If you want to know better about me, I got one already! Hehe...

Some paralels that intrigued me into wanting to know more about you:

  • I could see you are swedish. I'm brazilian.
  • I want to know more about vikings and all the culture behind. Related to this, I'm a Ragnarok Online player.
  • I could see you are roman catholic. I was born in the same culture. But that's weird, because I thourgh you should be of a different religion! o_O
  • You are both en-3 and sv-3. I believe I am also en-3, but "br-3".
  • Do you like games?
  • (more)? :P

Thanks for understanding!

--Cawas 02:24, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Three revert rule

You have been blocked for 24 hours under the three revert rule. If you wish to appeal please contact another administrator or the mailing list.Geni 12:18, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

descriptions

"painfull and dsiturbing" is one interesting way to look at it, and if it conveys pain, then i suppose my feelings bleed through, beause when i have been typing for a while, its quite painfull. hope that helps the explainationGavin the Chosen 01:51, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I've never conversed with you before. EliasAlucard|Talk 10:36, 10 Aug, 2005 (UTC)
Pardon, I thought you were aware that I am the same user as Gabrielsimon used to be. I switched Usernames to get away from stressfull conflict.Gavin the Chosen 15:00, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the complient; It is most appreciated, particularly given the revert war and flamefest that has followed my attempts to contribute to Wolverine, with a couple of other users who seem to act as if they own page accusing me of being a "troll," of "vandalism," of "deliberately antagonizing others," etc. Someone else stepped in to protect that page, and suggested we work together to create an edit that will satisify both parties as much as possible, but after three or four subsequent edits that I made of the section I contributed to, they continue to come up with reasons why something's wrong with, and refuse to include any detail, source citations, or examples in the passage. If you could check out the last few versions of the section at the Wolverine (comics)/Temp page, and let me know what you think, I'd appreciate it. If you could, please let the others know on the Talk:Wolverine (comics) page, under Step 4, where the discussion seems to have hit a standstill, what you think, since the main antagonist who attacks me, ScifiterX, is fond of pointing out that several people agree with him (as if that makes his false accusations or logical fallacies valid), whereas no one is "backiing me up". Thanks again. :-) Nightscream 8.10.05. 3:50am EST

What are you talking about? I've never conversed with you before. EliasAlucard|Talk 10:36, 10 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

This isn't connected to the above, but fits under the heading, so here goes: I just removed the link to your review of Devil's Advocate (film) at the article. An anon had removed it before, and you responded that it was OK to have links that don't work on a specific browser. I agree with that, but not that it's OK to have links that actually cuss out users of that browser - that's completely inappropriate for a Wikipedia link. -Joshuapaquin 14:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

You take things way too seriously. EliasAlucard|Talk 10:25, 24 Apr, 2006 (UTC)

Vampire FARC

Someone closed the Vampire FARC citing a lack of consensus to remove. I've restored it because there's still an ongoing dialog, which I believe should continue. As a participant, if you have anything you'd like to add (please, let's not talk about DreamGuy, keep this about what needs to be done to the article), now's the time to weigh in. -- Norvy (talk) 06:51, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Cat (your vote on hygiene photo)

Thanks for your vote and comments. It's good to hear that some people are interested in the concept ... that was my intent! After reading what you (and some of the others) wrote, I added a vote and tried to explain my ideas behind writing the paragraph. Thanks again. Reward 06:21, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

I forgot to say... if you want to find out more about the subject, you don't really need a book. It's easy. Growing up, we trained generations of cats to do this quite easily. Just see the website at Cat#endnote_www.karawynn.net.607 Reward 19:49, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Gmail

Hey, in the summary of your edit of the Gmail article on 26.8. 23:28 you ask: "→Spam filtering - why would anyone want spam in their pop3 clients? no source either". Here the answer: Of course nobody wants to have spam in their pop3 clients. But people wants a) to download messages that have mistakenly be marked "spam" by Gmail without having to 1. log into Gmails web interface 2. identify mistakenly spam marked emails 3. unmark them 4. download them with the email client or b) [a variation of a)] want to download all messages (incl. spam marked emails) to be able to double check Gmails assessment of their spam character. (P.S. the plural of one parenthesis is indeed parentheses) --Krueschan 19:45, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I've had Gmail for around one year now (almost). I get around 5-10 spam messages every day. I can't remember one message in my spambox that hasn't been spam. But yeah, I agree that it would be cool if they provided an option for it. Still though, I don't think it's a necessity, since there are a lot more important stuff for Google to implement, and I doubt that anyone complains about it, since everyone hates spam, and no one would want to download it. EliasAlucard|Talk 22:30, 29 Aug, 2005 (UTC)
I wonder, where you got your confidence from, that no one wants to download it. Apparently there are people (e.g. that dude who wrote that sentence you deleted in the Gmail article, and myself) who rather have control over their email instead of leaving it to machines. I agree, however, that Gmails spamfilter is pretty reliable but I still had some few emails marked spam that weren't and even one single wrongly marked message is unexeptable. I know quite a few people (incl myself) who go through all the emails marked as spam once a week or so to check if there is something important in it before deleting it. And if your email client doesn't download those, you'd have to log into Gmail (for example) to check those in your browser. That's annoying for those who mostly use pop3 clients. --84.43.95.159 10:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I was refering to actual spam. No one wants to download real spam mail. But sure, some messages might not be spam. However, have in mind that Gmail's spam filter gets more accurate for every day that passes by. There won't be much need of downloading the spam mails in the future. Perhaps there is a need as of now, but it's not huge, and frankly, I'd have Google prioritise more important features, like IMAP4 etc. Six months ago, the need to download the spam-mails probably was higher, but I think you get the point. Anyway, I don't want to argue or have a dispute with you, (it seems like we're heading that way, and that's never fun here on Wikipedia). I hope for the best of collaborations between us on the Gmail article. EliasAlucard|Talk 14:21, 30 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

Alright, I created a poll for the Gmail thing. I already did interpret my more general question on the talk page as kind of a poll and since there have been no really dissenting voice apart from yours and since you wrote as well, that you agreed to my point, I didn't really see why the article should not be summarised. However, on the poll page I am suggesting to not only sum up the article but rather move the current content to other pages. That would have the advantage that wikipedia users who just want to know what Gmail is and what features it has etc. get a quick overview and folk that want to get more detail in how those features work and how Gmail evolved/developed could just click to the subpages. I hope, you'll agree with that proceeding as vote accordingly. All the best from Scotland. --Krueschan 15:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't think there's a need for abridgement. The 32 kb size for articles is pretty much a general recommended size for articles, or as it says: "preferable". It's not like it's not allowed to have articles longer than 32 kb. There are many articles on Wikipedia that must have more content than that. Examples to look at are:
And there's a lot more than that. Some articles are rich in content due to the interest of the contributors, and, not to forget, the subject itself, and how much publicity it generates; some articles just don't have enough material to write about, some do.
While surely the Gmail article has some redundant information that's quite not worth to preserve in history, I think that most of the stuff in it is quite interesting for those who really want to learn more about Gmail. I've learned a lot about Gmail and other useful stuff from the Gmail article. I wish the same for everyone else, and frankly, a lot of people would miss out on it if they had to go through the trouble to click on yet another wikilink (yes, there are people who happen to be that lazy).
Also, something worth mentioning is that this is NOT a normal encyclopedia. In normal encyclopedias, they don't have a virtually limitless amount of contributors, therefore, they can't waste too much time on writing a lot about less important subjects like Gmail. We on the other hand can. We shouldn't squander that ability by conforming too much to real encyclopedias. That's why Wikipedia kicks ass. This is how a perfect encyclopedic article would've been about Gmail:
Gmail is a free webmail from Google. It is famous for its huge storage of over 2 GigaByte. It requires invitations to get an account.
And that's it. They honestly wouldn't write more than that. They don't have time. EliasAlucard|Talk 14:01, 02 Sept, 2005 (UTC)


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Removed information from article that needs to be bigger, not smaller

Hi, I'm just wondering why you removed the information I posted at Crucify (song). This was an article that was tagged to be expanded, and I added an instance where the song was seen in pop culture, in fact with a good criticism I might add. Why did you take it down? Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. --Jacqui M Schedler 03:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

It wasn't encyclopedic in my opinion. I didn't remove everything you added, just the Beavis and Butt-head part. I mean, I fail to recognise the correlation between the song and their dialogue about the music video. EliasAlucard|Talk 11:31, 10 Sept, 2005 (UTC)
Well, the song was supposed to be so breakthrough, and say scary things, and yet the video that got made for it was really trite and full of cliches. But I can't say that on the page, because it's NPOV. What makes it not POV is the opinion of two major, animated cultural players! And, if the Beavis and Butt-head page mentions that they watched a Tori video, why can't a Tori Amos page point that out? --Jacqui M Schedler 13:03, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Well could you explain it more thoroughly then? I didn't understand much of that conversation between Beavis and Butt-head. EliasAlucard|Talk 15:326, 10 Sept, 2005 (UTC)
You mean, in the entry? Sure. And we should find other examples, too, of where that song ended up. Leno and Letterman appearances seem obvious, but they're on my to-find list. What else? --Jacqui M Schedler 22:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Gmail Inbox screenshot

Yeah, I saw what happened. My mistake. Plus, my connection is barely crawling this night. Sorry about that. I did fix it too at first, though. It should be fine now. Please take a look at it and see if the remaining version is really the latest one.--Kaonashi 05:46, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

It's the latest one all right, but it appears that all the reverting caused it to somehow not appear in articles. I'll put it on delete, and you'll delete it, then I'll upload it again so we can get a clean picture. EliasAlucard|Talk 07:51, 14 Sept, 2005 (UTC)

That's weird. It did really disappear from the article. Anyway, it's deleted now. Make sure to upload it again with the same file name. See if it works.--Kaonashi 06:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

It's picture perfect now :) Thanks for all the help, greatly appreciated! EliasAlucard|Talk 08:03, 14 Sept, 2005 (UTC)

No problem. Glad it worked. You actually did well by always updating the image using the same name. Some people just create new file names (like "file2.jpg", "file3.jpg"...), and the previous versions just remain forgotten until someone finds them and deletes them.

Anyway, needing help again, just ask.--Kaonashi 06:11, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

What the hell? Now it disappeared again in the article. You think this could be some problem within Wikipedia? EliasAlucard|Talk 08:27, 14 Sept, 2005 (UTC)
I ran several tests and I think I MIGHT have discovered the problem. I think that is happening because the thumbnail you're using in the article is too large. I think the page is not managing to stay stable with the size of that thumb. It did seem pretty large to me at first, so I think it's not working well with the contents table. Try decreasing the size to see what happens.
I will have to go now. I also can't do much right now because the transfer rates I'm getting here are awful. If that doesn't work, wait for some time and we'll see what happens later.--Kaonashi 07:17, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh, so was it you the one who made the description? I was trying to find in your contribs page, but I couldn't because you seem to have done so much, and by not being able to find it I've remembered of a cool idea I've had before about wikipedia and google. :)

I was hoping someone would fix that "removing information" done by Ratify. I was surprised when I did find someone doing that, and even more surprised on finding it was you. I hate people trying to remove information from a encyclopedia. :P Summarizing is not about removing, but organizing. =)

Very nice!

And since I like every good contribution made in wikipedia...

Thanks for your contribution and for reminding myself of that idea! :)

--Cawas 01:59, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Hello. I did indeed edit the image on Gmail and also the caption around the article as I thought it contained a lot of irrelevant information. You say you dont like people removing information from an encyclopedia but I don't think the purpose of an encyclopedia is to pack it with as much information as possible without thinking about whether someone researching the subject would be interested or whether it is relevant.
Edits I made were to remove the information about the browser type and the operating system that is being used by editing the image and the article. The reason being is that your browser type and OS aren't at all relevant to Gmail. Gmail looks the same in 'Mozilla Firefox browser in the Xandros Linux operating system' as it does in any browser or OS, so why should it be mentioned? Would you mention the spec of the computer that was being used or the time/date the screenshots were taken?
I also removed the text 'The Gmail Notifier extension for Firefox shows when a new message is received or unread. Rather than showing individual emails, Gmail groups emails into threads, with the number of messages in each indicated in parenthesis. In this image, the second message from the top is shown with a white background and bolded text, indicating that it includes an unread message.' simply because I think this should be in the article, not in the image caption. Although, I do understand that this information was related to the image and could perhaps be left in.
Thanks. Ratify 03:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
There's no need of removing it. I honestly didn't add most of that information. It was already there. Someone else added the Xandros Linux information. All I did was to provide a more up to date screenshot (the previous one was very old) of the Gmail inbox, that showed the invite label, as requested on the talk page. And if you're going to strip out OS information from the screenshot, why not do it on every other screenshot? Besides, Gmail does not look the same in Linux as in Windows. Different fonts are used. Same with Firefox, it doesn't look the same in Linux as it does in Windows, although very similar. And since every other screenshot of Gmail is from Windows, wouldn't it be nice to see how it's rendered in Linux for a change? The Gmail Notifier is notable because that's the only one for Linux users. Mac users have their own official Gmail Notifier. Windows users have two (Google Talk and the official one). Linux users only have the Firefox version. So therefore, it ought to be mentioned. By the way, how do you know what people are interested in? You may not be that interested in knowing what OS Gmail is rendered in, but other people do; that's why they add that information in next to the screenshot. EliasAlucard|Talk 08:14, 17 Nov, 2005 (UTC)

Image tagging

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Windows Mail

One of the videos on Channel 9, which is run by Microsoft: http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=116711

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Hej!

Hi, I notice you can speak Swedish. Could you translate this phrase for me?

"Det gör ont en Stund på natten men inget på dan"

I've had trouble with online translators. 82.18.38.110 21:27, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

"It hurts a little at night, but not at daytime." Perhaps not the most verbatim translation, but it's something like that. EliasAlucard|Talk 11:05, 19 Nov, 2005 (UTC)

Help with Translation!?

Can you help translate this for me to swedish? Many thanks in advance!

For a small country, Albania is endowed with considerable resources. The southwestern part of the country is rich in petroleum and natural gas. The northeastern region has substantial reserves of metallic mineral deposits, including chromium, copper, and iron-nickel. Large deposits of lignite (soft coal) are found near Tiranë, and natural asphalt is mined near Selenicë.

Albania is also rich in rivers and streams with significant hydroelectric potential. These have been exploited quite effectively, making the country an energy exporter. A number of huge hydroelectric power plants have been built, mainly on the Drin River, and more than half of the country's arable land is irrigated, largely from the artificial reservoirs created upstream of the dams.

--Armour 14:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry man, that's too time consuming at the moment. I'd love to help you out, but I have other things to do (learning HTML again). Try someone else. EliasAlucard|Talk 14:28, 23 Nov, 2005 (UTC)

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On the Catholic Church of Wikipedia

As you have described yourself as a Catholic, I thought I would alert you as a co-religionist to your opportunity to delete the particularly offensive article, Wikipedia:Catholic Church of Wikipedia.--Thomas Aquinas 21:45, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Signed. EliasAlucard|Talk 13:16, 28 Nov, 2005 (UTC)

A Message to Pro-Life Wikipedians

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Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel 21:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Why? EliasAlucard|Talk 23:24, 06 Dec, 2005 (UTC)

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CAoW

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Mel Gibson

Thank you for removing the Mel Gibson fake blog. I also tried to remove it, but it kept being reverted back. Feel free to leave a comment here [6] to show I wasn't the only one. :) Garion96 (talk) 15:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I simply wanted to say that this is a fabulous picture; I've never seen cats like this, and assume they are very rare. — THOR =/\= 23:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I happen to have five of them. White cats with blue eyes are rare because they are often deaf, and can't manage on their own on the outside. But it's nice to get a compliment about my cats; I love them :) EliasAlucard|Talk 07:50, 01 Feb, 2006 (UTC)

Greetings! You have edited the Katie Holmes page in the past. I've completely reworked the article and have posted it on WP:PR in the hopes of advancing it to WP:FAC. I would be grateful for your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Katie Holmes/archive1. PedanticallySpeaking 18:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

All right, I'll check it up when I have some time for it. Thanks for notifying me. EliasAlucard|Talk 22:40, 09 Feb, 2006 (UTC+1)

Western Sahara

Hi, here is a vote related to Western Sahara, it's about the neutrality of wikipedia in this conflict, are you interested? Daryou 18:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Sure I'm interested, and I'll check it up—but to be honest, I don't know enough about the subject in question, and I'd have to do a lot of catch up in order to know what I'm talking about. That being said, I don't know if I'm the best person to ask. However, I'll do what I can. EliasAlucard|Talk 19:32, 21 Feb, 2006 (UTC+1)

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Translation request

Hello, I saw that you are a native speaker of Arabic, so I would like to ask you if you could take a look at 2003 invasion of Iraq and Iraq War. There is a featured article in Arabic which we would like to know how it could be used the English one which is of course dominated by people who have either been there as soldiers or have their knowledge from western media. Someone also asked if the section about "related propaganda and phrases" could be amplified with information about the Iraqi side. Maybe there are also people who took photos in Iraq at the Arabic version? As I saw you oppose advertisement, what do you think about user boxes endorsing certain softdrinks or fast food? Nameme 15:47, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Im sorry, but I cannot read arabic any longer. I could when I was 8, but I've stopped practise a long time ago. Good luck with finding someone who can help you out. EliasAlucard|Talk 17:28, 02 Mar, 2006 (UTC+1)
Ok, thanks. Nameme 16:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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Hi,

We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 00:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, don't have any interest for this right now. Thanks for asking though. EliasAlucard|Talk 14:35, 24 Mar, 2006 (UTC+1)

I would love your help.

Hi,

I know you are interested in christianity, and I recently started a new wiki over at wikicities which is on the subject of christianity. Christian Knowledge Base is the site.

The goal is to have a knowledgebase on christianity from a distinctly "C(hristian)POV" rather than the NPOV. It is not meant to be a mere Christian Encyclopedia, but to foster a real sense of community. I'd like to include things like current events, news, stories, and anything that would add to both an understanding of Christianity, but also its enjoyment. I'm looking for help to build a resource that could really enrich the lives of Christians.

I know you are busy but I am actively seeking new sysops/admins to help me build this site up, and I would be positively thrilled if you could contribute in any capacity whatsoever. nsandwich 05:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't sound too bad. Will it stand the test of time, or is it just a project that might be abandoned if there's not enough interest in it? EliasAlucard|Talk 14:35, 24 Mar, 2006 (UTC+1)

About IE boycotting

Hello, this is what I wanted to say before. Here [7] you wrote:

actually, it's more about boycotting IE for fun, rather than promoting.

Well, it maybe fun for you, but it wasn't much fun for me, an Opera user, when I got into your page, which is started with such passage:

So I can tell it appears that you're another one of these lame, dumbass, chickenshit, Internet Explorer dicks I've been hearing a lot about lately. I'm going to be frank with you: I'm not just going to sit here and take it like a coward; your horseshit browser isn't allowed on my site—I've banned access and condemned your dogshit browser all the way to Hell. Grow some balls and take the leap to Firefox, or fuck off like the little shit you are without any dignity and honour left.

This insulted me plenty, because (1) I don't consider myself lame, dumbass, etc (even when I use IE - which I do rarely, when it is really needed for my work), and (2) I usually don't use IE, and didn't use it this time. At the end of page, I found a brief explanation for such poor folks like me. I switched the needed option, and clicked "reload". WTF, I saw the same page. I started FF and copied the URL there. The page was still saying I should use FF. WTF. Ah, then I noticed that the URL is getfirefox.eliasalucard.com , so it means I was redirected. I re-open the original URL from the article, and whoa! I can see your review. Review isn't bad, but I think that dealing with users in such manner is bad. I think that other users can stumble to the same thing as me.

I think that you should rewrite your script so Opera wouldn't be blocked even in the IE mode. It must be easy, because Opera reports itself like this:

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; ru) Opera 8.53

So it isn't so hard to find it is Opera. You might want to deliberately block Opera in IE mode, but this would be what I call extremism.

Also, the language of the warning page, seems to me slightly too rude for a text linked from Wikipedia (even if only IE users will see it, and they will be properly warned). It is true that there are many sites out where which deny access for browsers other than IE (and it is a reason for reporting Opera as IE), but they usually don't insult their readers (like this). A simple page with explanations would be enough to block access for IE users. Crocodealer 20:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Christ's sake, man: it's just jokes. How can you feel offended by such immature language? Don't make such a big deal out of it. Have a little sense of humor; it's all done in jest.
Seriously, how can you be stupid just because you're using a lousy browser like IE? By logic reason alone, you can't. Chances are that you may not be as much 'in the know' as some tech savvy guy; but that's about it. And that being said, it's exaggeration from my part. Cool down.
By the way, I wrote that if you don't like the review, remove the link from the Wikipedia article if you feel that it bothers you too much. I just wrote the review because I like the movie a lot, and thought I'd share the review here on Wikipedia because I like Wikipedia a lot.
I've given a thorough explanation on the GetFirefox page for Opera users how to avoid being blocked, and personally, I think it's good that they find this block page of mine so that they can get informed and change their browser's identification--and by doing that, we'll get more accurate statistics instead of these fake MSIE browsers.
Most users who accidentally come across my site don't read it anyway, so I might as well have a little fun with them, you know? :)
EliasAlucard|Talk 23:38, 22 Apr, 2006 (UTC+1)

Screenshot

Did you take the screenshot Image:Symph-032.png? If so, a version with wikipedia as opposed to Google would be much better. Thanks, ~Linuxerist E/L/T 02:01, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

A landslide victory for The JPS (aka RFA thanks)

Hey, EliasAlucard/Archive 1, thank you so much for your vote and comments in my RfA, which passed with an overwhelming consensus of 95/2/2. I was very surprised and flattered that the community has entrusted me with these lovely new toys. I ripped open the box and started playing with them as soon as I got them, and I've already had the pleasure of deleting random nonsense/attacks/copyvios tonight.
If I ever do anything wrong, or can help in some way, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will do my best to correct my mistake, or whatever...
Now, to that bottle of wine waiting for me...

The JPS talk to me 22:42, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, and have fun! EliasAlucard|Talk 12:18, 03 May, 2006 (UTC+1)

racism

why are you using the n-word on Talk:True Romance? --Revolución hablar ver 19:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

oh, I saw that was just quoting the movie. Or I hope it just was quoting the movie and not a real racist sentiment of yours. --Revolución hablar ver 19:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The article was a non-notable biography according to the criteria set out in WP:BIO.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  08:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


I have reverted your statement that this is of Jewish origin. Such a statement would be very controversial and would need to be backed up with strong evidence, as I have never seen a claim that the Prophet Mohammed was of Jewish origin.--File Éireann 12:54, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I mistook the name with the jewish Banu Qurayza tribe EliasAlucard|Talk 22:14, 15 Oct, 2006 (UTC)

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I know it's a furious debate between you and Dahn, but just remain calm when you make your posts. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Brianna Caradja AfD

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Shlama

Shlama khon and welcome to wikipedia. Always nice to see a fellow Chaldean Assyrian on board. If you have any questions, please let me know. What projects are you into right now? I am mostly working on Assyrian related pages. Chaldean 14:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Psheino hobo. Not much right now, I don't know much about Assyrian history, I'm simply Assyrian by ethnicity, that's all. But I'll be watching some documentaries about Assyrian history, and perhaps I can help out. EliasAlucard|Talk 16:47, 08 Nov, 2006 (UTC)

Tarikur

Is he reversing your edits at other than Robert Spencer? It seems so to me. If this is some sort of thing where he follows you around and reverts your edits it may be more than a simple 3RR violation.

Ubuntu Satanic Edition proposed for deletion

I've listed Ubuntu Satanic Edition for proposed deletion. It's only a desktop theme for Linux according to the website you linked, and it doesn't meet WP:SOFTWARE. Twinxor t 11:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I've put the article up on AfD. I don't think an article on this topic can me made to be encyclopedic. Twinxor t 04:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Please see my note on the article's discussion page re the name Veronica.

Fiddleback 21:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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PS3

thanks for doing the revert. i was half way through doing it when my internet suddenly turned slow. guh! but anyway sticking to the point. keep up the good work! MasterEditor99 19:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Shlomo

Shlomo alokh ahuno mjaqro. Suryoyo hat? Shlome--Yohanun 12:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Psheino hobo. Ono Suryoyo/Assuryoyo EliasAlucard|Talk 04:32, 29 May, 2007 (UTC)

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Personal attacks - 24 hour block

I note above that you have been warned about personal attacks before. Comments like this ([8], [9]) are unacceptable. I have blocked you for 24 hours, to prevent further personal attacks. Please take this time to think about what is and is not acceptable. Neil  12:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Elias, I had hoped that 24 hours would have been sufficient. Please calm down. You are accusing an editor of racism - please either provide evidence for these claims or stop making them. Your actions are becoming disruptive; the first thing you did after your 24 hour block was go right back after White Cat, again accusing him of racism. And accusing me of bias. I believe I have now been accused of bias both in favour of and against Turks! Carry on making wild accusations and being incivil, and you will be blocked for a longer period to prevent further disruption. Neil  22:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Last warning - [10] Stop accusing people of being racist just because they don't share your world view. White Cat is, like you, trying to improve Wikipedia. Everyone has different points of view on what is and is not acceptable, and the only way we can ensure a productive environment is for these differences of opinion to be worked through civilly. If you truly feel there is a problem with what is happening, rather than accusing others of racism, please let me or another administrator know (either via a talk page or via one of the administrator's noticeboards. Stick to the facts, and avoid making it a race issue, and provide diffs illustrating any problems you come across. If you are unable to do this, then we will not be able to help. Contuinuing to lash out at White Cat will lead to you being blocked, again, for a longer period of time. Neil  15:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

you may wish to self revert

you have been edit warring on Bahira to insert fringe polemic which completely misrepresents the citation provided, and is not endorsed by academic opinion (the google results to polemical unscholarly websites you provided on talk aren't appropriate). i would invite you to self-revert, and consider WP:NPOV, WP:V, and WP:RS. i also find the personal comments rather distasteful, please keep them out of the discussion. thank you. ITAQALLAH 20:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Assyrian-stub

I don't assert that there are not notable Assyrians, nor do I assert that people cannot be notable as a result of their Assyrianness, but you are overbroadly using that stub. Also despite your assertions, that I was removing the stub from every article it was on, I looked at every single article it was on and left the stub on the majority of them. Only those that failed to indicate that the subject was notable because of being Assyrian was it removed. Stub templates are not the mechanism for keeping track of all Assyrian articles, WikiProject related talk page templates are. Caerwine Caer’s whines 23:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sargis Bahirâ

I've nominated Sargis Bahirâ, an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Sargis Bahirâ satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sargis Bahirâ and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Sargis Bahirâ during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.

PS - you might want to think about archiving your talk page. -- Merope 18:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You have been blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule on Sargis Bahirâ. In the future, please solve editing disputes through discussion rather than edit warring. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 21:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Heimstern Läufer (talk) 21:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

EliasAlucard (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I'm in the middle of a vote for deletion discussion on Sargis Bahirâ. Could you at least unblock me and let me continue the discussion? Also, I wasn't the one reverting. Their reasons to remove sources were not good enough. As a Wikipedia editor, you are allowed to revert if you believe an edit wasn't good enough, like for instance, when someone removes sources without a good enough reason. Also, if you check the talk page, you can see that I was trying to solve the editing dispute through discussion: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Sargis_Bahir%C3%A2

Decline reason:

This does not excuse you from adhering to WP:3RR. If you were truly trying to resolve the dispute through discussion, you would not have violated WP:3RR. — Yamla 21:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Please review Wikipedia policies

Re this message you posted: [11] Please review WP:NPA.

Re this message you posted: [12] containing "Whatever the case, the pictures stay, ..." Please review WP:Consensus, especially the section on "Reasonable consensus-building".

Please also take to heart this advice at the top of Talk:Muhammad:

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It's important that the discussion at Talk:Muhammad be conducted in a calm, polite manner.

It often helps to take a 24-hour break to cool down before responding. --Coppertwig 10:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Note that I also put a message on Kashif Ahmed's user talk page, and that that user has responded with a conciliatory message at Talk:Muhammad. --Coppertwig 12:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for 72 hours

[13] - Elias, what part of "final warning" did you not understand? It is not acceptable to insult other editors. Blocked for 72 hours. Please take this time to read Wikipedia:Civility, and consider whether you wish to contribute to this encyclopedia in a constructive and civilised manner. Neil  11:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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"vandalism"

your editing behaviour is problematic. empty accusations of "vandalism" only go to show that you have no idea what you are doing. As Neil is telling you above, you do not make an impression of being particularly civilized. Please be sure to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia procedures, and show some good grace if they sometimes prevent you from realizing your private outlook on things. Anything else leads to hassle, revert-wars, and eventually bans. dab (𒁳) 09:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, when marking articles which are copyright violations (like you did on Chaldean community) dont forget to add {{copyright|url=URL of where its from here}} or the tag is not really important without this. Thanks --The Sunshine Man 09:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

what is wrong with you? Are you just here to disrupt Wikipedia and annoy people, or do you do something useful at times? We routinely import Catholic Encyclopedia articles, which is a work published in 1913, now in the public domain. dab (𒁳) 09:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Syriacs

If you stop adding biased information, I'll stop reverting. You probably know very well that calling Syriacs "Assyrians" is considered POV. True, many of them do believe they're Assyrians, however, many others do not. You might want to believe Aramaeans are an extinct people, many others disagree with you. Please keep it neutral. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 11:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Since you seem to be an expert on what qualifies as biased information, please tell me, what exactly was it that was biased in the credible sources I added? I'm not here to appease Assyrians who think they're Aramaeans. I'm here to cite sources, no matter how controversial they are. Neutral does not mean self-censorship; I'm not going to refrain from adding sources just because some Assyrians might feel offended from it. I'm not the one adding biased information. It's neither biased nor POV. I am looking at it objectively from credible sources. The source I cited is from Simo Parpola, he is from Finland, he is not affiliated with Assyrians, he is an Assyriologist, he is not Assyrian. The other source is from the Catholic Encyclopedia. How is that biased? Also, we do not "believe" we are Assyrians. We are Assyrians. Yes, some of us believe they're Aramaeans; they're not. What has happened is that since we've been stateless for 2600 years, we have gone different ways in the Assyrian diaspora, and since we Assyrians speak Aramaic as a result of the Neo-Assyrian Empire's change in language from Akkadian to Aramaic, some of us consider themselves Aramaeans. Syriac is derived from the word Syrian, which is ultimately derived from Assyrian. You should have a look here [14]. Please, you do not know our history, stop reverting. EliasAlucard|Talk 16:58 29 Jun, 2007 (UTC)

use of talk pages

Please do not use talk pages such as Talk:Muhammad for general discussion of the topic. They are for discussion related to improving the article. They are not to be used as a forum or chat room. See here for more information. Thank you. ITAQALLAH 23:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

It's not trolling. But it's nice to see that Wikipedia is against freedom of speech. In what way is it trolling, by the way? You may not like what I have to say, but calling it trolling is a cheep shot. EliasAlucard|Talk 01:48 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it was intended as trolling, any more than the posts ranting on about the prophet p.b.u.h. etc. are meant as trolling, but it might have the same effect. If that post stays, somebody's going to pop up stating that Muslim's don't worship Muhammad, and off-topic chaos ensues. That article is currently hopeless in large part because no one wants to hang around the talk page.Proabivouac 23:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not include freedom of speech. Wikipedia is not a forum - it is an attempt to build an encyclopaedia. By policy, any conversation on talk pages should be about the article and how to improve it - generally provocative statements which don't pertain to building an encyclopaedic article are usually removed - and due to the sensitive nature of Muhammad, we're fairly aggressive about that. Keep in mind that this is just a friendly warning. If you want to discuss Muhammad, there are plenty of forums available to you - this just isn't one. You might find one using http://www.google.com or even by chatting up a stranger in the local coffeehousee. Please use one of those venues instead for general conversation. I didn't mean to condemn your intent, but the end result was what it was. WilyD 23:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
It says: Wikipedia is not censored. You are now censoring me. It didn't say, Wikipedia does not include freedom of speech. You are into appeasement right now, and censorship, of course. You are working against Wikipedia's policies. I expected more from an administrator. EliasAlucard|Talk 02:02 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
EliasAlucard, please take note that User:TharkunColl has already been blocked for restoring your post.Proabivouac 00:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
All right. EliasAlucard|Talk 02:02 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Listen, if I judged your intent a little too hastily, I apologise. The net effect of your post created an unproductive chain that just fuels the conflicts at Muhammad - but I may have jumped the gun. I hope you can understand that Muhammad gets a lot of trolling, and the duck test usually suffices - and I hope you can understand why your comments were inappropriate. Cheers, WilyD 00:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Apology accepted. Would be nice if you could unblock TharkunColl, he didn't deserve a block for that. Look, I raised a valid point, and I provided sources for my claims. I still think my comments should be restored, because honestly, that wasn't trolling. EliasAlucard|Talk 02:10 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
TharkunColl is a persistant troll at Talk:Muhammad, who's been warned, many, many, many, many, many, many times about it - and been blocked for his actions at Muhammad and Talk:Muhammad before (as well as general incivility). Additionally, while I might have considered reducing the block I put on TharkunColl if he showed remorse or at the very least a desire for dialogue, he's instead still trying escalate the situation and goad other editors into arguments. The short of it is - TharkunColl already knew better, but did it anyways. Cheers, WilyD 00:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay, but how about restoring my comments? I believe they are valuable to the Muhammad article. You see, I did not make that up, the facts that I stated. I think that should be included in the article. I even provided sources in my last edit [15], but it was arrogantly removed with the insolent retort "please stop restoring these unnecessary comments". By the way, how long will TharkunColl be blocked? I mean, is it temporary? Don't you think it's a bit harsh to block him indefinitely for this? EliasAlucard|Talk 02:45 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Well, if there's some merit to your comments, it might be discussable with a different tone. I did take a cursory glance at the sources you linked, and they did not (on first inspection) seem to be consistant with Wikipedia:Reliable sources. I can look further into it, but I'm not a scholar of Islam or anything - other "regular" editors of Muhammad might give you better advice on sources - User:Itaqallah or User:Proabivouac might better direct you on this. And since you ask, TharkunColl's block is 100 hours, which I chose mostly because his last block for inappropriate behaviour on Talk:Muhammad was 48 hours, and I usually about double previous blocks for users with several previous blocks, depending on circumstances.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with the blocking policy, but users aren't blocked as punishment - they're blocked when that's the only way to stop them from being disruptive. Since TharkunColl has declared on his user talk page his intention to learn nothing from the episode, I really can't reduce or eliminate his block in good conscience. Cheers, WilyD 00:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh okay. Anyway, those sources, are reliable. In fact, they even link forward to other islamic sources. And those views on Muhammad are mainstream in islam. EliasAlucard|Talk 05:25 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
EliasAlucard, it would not be difficult to construct an argument that Muslim idealization and veneration of Muhammad amounts to shirk by the Qur'an's own standards. However, one can expect heated reponses to that line of inquiry, and your comment wasn't necessary to answer the question being asked, or to address any topic under discussion.Proabivouac 03:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
What are you saying, that I should just shut up? Look, I'll try to be more civil next time, but please don't censor me. Deal? EliasAlucard|Talk 05:37 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
please refer to the talk page guidelines and WP:NOT#FORUM. talk pages aren't a place for off-topic discussion, and posting potentially inflammatory comments on a sensitive page (such as `Muslims worship Muhammad! They deny it, but actually they really do!`) are unwise and not conducive to the development of an encyclopedia (in fact, they hinder it). Wikipedia is not an experiment in the exercise of free speech, and as such we generally refactor personal attacks, gross incivility, needless provocation/trolling/soapboxing, and so on. ITAQALLAH 11:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
First of all, I wasn't being off topic. Second of all, there was nothing wrong with my statement. I'm not here to pat your shoulders. Wikipedia is not censored, you are obviously exercising religious censorship, which is out of line with Wikipedia's policies. Why is it unwise, to write what I wrote? Is that a threat? Are you, insinuating that you're going to kill me? EliasAlucard|Talk 14:02 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Muhammad is not subject to religious censorship - it is subject to productivity censorship - unproductive posts are censored, in order to keep the signal/noise down. The posts attacking Muslims are removed briskly, but so are the posts attacking us Heathen Devils. What you wrote was off topic - the topic of Talk:Muhammad is not "Muhammad" - it's "How do we write an encyclopaedia article about Muhammad?" You must keep this in mind. WilyD 13:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
It wasn't off topic at all. They asked why Muhammad is considered the greatest prophet of all time, I pointed out that there's a possibility they worship the guy. I won't do it again because I'm tired of arguing over this, but please, don't censor me. That is all I ask. EliasAlucard|Talk 16:04 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

Email

Incidentally, you can enable email to you through "my preferences" at the top right of your screen. Adding your email to your userpage is likely to result in a lot of spam, since automated web parsers pick it up that way. Cheers, WilyD 00:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

It's no problem. Gmail is the shit as far as spam filtering goes. EliasAlucard|Talk 02:45 03 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

you have been reverting excessively on that article, and you may wish to self revert. Islamic theology (proper) refers to the study and nature of God. ITAQALLAH 12:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I have only been reverting vandalism by highly biased, over-sensitive muslims. What's the problem? EliasAlucard|Talk 14:17 04 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
See WP:VANDAL for definitions of what constitutes vandalism. The edits being made by multiple editors citing policy is not vandalism. → AA (talkcontribs)12:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Look, it's quite clear to me that you're motivated by a bias, seeing that you're muslims and all. You are really not helping at all, by doing this. I've provided sources, they are to islamic sites, almost all of them. Seriously, what's the problem here? Why are you not, instead of being counterproductive, helping out instead? EliasAlucard|Talk 14:40 04 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

Comments on Talk:Ashurism

Hi Elias. You made a few comments on the above talk page, such as "Damn Garzo, no offence, and I do mean this in a positive way, but you're truly a pain in the ass :)", "You are obviously, like most Wikipedians, an enemy of Freedom of Speech, you have issues with someone questioning your motives, and you are also a hypocrite", and "That's really, because you are an old man, Garzo. You know, a little stiff. Again, no offence, but you should stop taking yourself too seriously, you know, be a little bit more humble. ". While none of these are, taken in context, especially offensive, your tone was flippant and unhelpful (and bordering on rude in the second example, with some unfair accusations of racism also made).

I don't want to have to block you again as you're clearly a bright and valuable contributor for the most part, but please try and bear in mind the feelings of others - not everyone may share your sense of humour on what is ostensibly a scholarly project, and calling your fellow editors "pain in the ass", "racist", "hypocrite" or "old man" is rude, no matter how many times you say "no offence" or add smileys to the end of the sentence. Please be more civil in the future. If you have any questions, let me know. Neil  14:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Castlevania

Did you ever play CastleVania 3? Alucard is Dracula backwards and he is also the star of Dracula X for Sega Saturn also known as Symphony of the Night on the PSOne.Sharru Kinnu III

Dude, you are talking with the number one Castlevania fan. Do not, insult my intelligence like that :) By the way, are you Assyrian? EliasAlucard|Talk 21:57 10 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Hei khonee, suraya'win. Ana itlee CastleVania X qa Sega Saturn hon zweena min Yaban b'Ebay. Ap qa Xbox360 Live Arcade hon weetha download Symphony of the Night. Keeben zonen Nintendo DS homa qa CastleVania ou the New Mario Bros. Keeben zonen Dracula X qa PC-Engine Duo/TG16 bas ee mzabna imma dollareh b'Ebay. Rabba girren eela.Sharru Kinnu III 20:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I didn't understand any of that. I don't speak Aramaic (just a little). That's what happens in the diaspora, some of us are forgetting the language. EliasAlucard|Talk 23:34 10 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
I was saying that I have Dracula X for Sega Saturn and Symphony of the night on XBOX360 Live Arcade. I want to get Nintendo's DS just for the CastleVania game and the new Mario game. I have had almost every video game system from Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast Playstation 1 and 2, and now XBox360. I still have my Dreamcast and Saturn.Sharru Kinnu III 19:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh okay. Well, I have two mint copies of the Sega Saturn Dracula X, and I have the PAL PS1 version of SotN, and the Japanese Limited Edition version of SotN, and the American Greatest Hits version of SotN. I have lots of other Castlevania games. — EliasAlucard|Talk 21:17 11 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Awesome dude, where you from? I'm in Rochester, MI, USA. I think the greatest game of all time is Street Fighter Alpha 3. I love Street Fighter. Marvel Vs Capcom is awesome too.Sharru Kinnu III 20:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Sweden. Yeah man, aside from ethnicity, we seem to have a lot in common. I'm a huge fan of Street Fighter and Marvel Beat 'em up games. I think Mega Man is pretty awesome too. Let's just say I'm an old school retro gamer. So, you plan on getting a PS3? — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:32 11 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Sweden sounds great. I always pick them in Winning Eleven 2007 for XBOX360. Ibrahimovich is awesome in the game. I don't watch football (soccer) much on tv unless it's the World Cup. I think that if video games were introduced to the masses in Iraq things could change over there. If all Iraqis had game consoles with online capabilites at home they could be playing Halo or something similar to that online and a lot of agression could be released virtualy rather than in real life... just my opinion. I like Crackdown for 360, it's like Grand Theft Auto III but you're a cop and the main point of the game is to take down mob bosses and reclaim territory for the "Agency" which is the police orginization. It kind of takes place in the future and it's cell shaded to look like a comic book. You develop your powers as you proceed through the game and end up becoming superhero-like where you can practically scale buildings like Spiderman.Sharru Kinnu III 13:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Congrats [[16]] ;) Chaldean 01:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, cool. Some asshole actually started working on it. I'm impressed :) — EliasAlucard|Talk 03:40 12 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

Scroll boxes

No scrolling refs, see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 June 11. FMF|contact 23:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia_talk:Footnotes#scroll_box_for_references and Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources#Should_we_ever_box_in_references. Please discuss this at the policy level before implementing this decision unilaterally. Scrolling references do not work correctly with khtml browsers such as Safari, and it breaks printing and other accessibility features. Silly rabbit 01:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I updated it thought it needs immense work. Can you help me?Sharru Kinnu III 16:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to help out, but I don't know enough about this specific topic. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:02318 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

Shlama

Hello my name is Nochi and i am an Assyrian too, I just want to say hey and i am very proud for the Assyrians who uses thier huge knowlegde and help together to create alots of articles about Assyrians. Now many people around the world can read about us, about our religion and about our lifestyle. have a nice day my brother. btw how are the lifes of the Assyrians in Sweden? are they Chealdans or Syriacs. thanks. Nochi 08:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Don't give me too much credit though. There are other Assyrians, who have contributed with a lot more than I have. The Assyrians in Sweden, are fine, I guess. But there's this "rivalry" (if you can call it that) of anti-Assyrian Syriacs (they claim to be Aramaeans), and Assyrians who are trying to look at our history from a scientific and historic point of view; not a Church point of view. So, let's just say there's some enmity between us. Most Assyrians here are Syriac Orthodox (even those who claim Assyrian ancestry), but we do have some other Church denominations here as well. Check out http://www.hujada.com/ it's only available in Swedish for now, but it might expand later to include English and Aramaic. Oh and, there's always ESNA available in English too. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:03 18 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

My user page

Can you please not edit it at your own will? Thank you. Karam Bollis 13:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I categorized you as an Assyrian, as a polite gesture. It was sort of a welcome aboard kind of invitation, you know what I mean? Now look, you can pretend all you like that you're not Assyrian. Doesn't matter. You are an Assyrian either way, if your family lineage has been Chaldean Catholic since the beginning of the Chaldean Catholic Church. Converting to another Church, doesn't change your ethnicity. A Church, is not an "ethnicity converter." Oh and seriously, I hope you don't believe you're some kind of Neo-Babylonian? If you do, you are way indoctrinated in that bullshit. Stop deceiving yourself and wake up out of those lies. — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:45 18 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
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Elias, arent these images in the public domain due to the age of the painting? --Matt57 (talkcontribs) 15:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
No copyright issues here. The image is from 1315, it's a public domain image. ALM Scientist is a biased muslim, and he feels offended because there's an image depicting muhammed. He has been lobbying several times on the muhammad talk page, wanting to delete images of muhammad. It's some sort of religious thing with muslims. Don't take it seriously, we don't bow down to religious censorship here on Wikipedia. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:25 25 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
I know. He has claimed to send an email to the Librarian. I've written back to her. We'll get these images back and stronger.--Matt57 (talkcontribs) 15:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Splendid. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:30 25 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

Shlama

hello Elias. there are some people wich call themselfs Sumerians and even the Marsh Arabs claim they are Sumerians or some scholars claim it, i wonder if thats corect?:S do they exist?? thanks Nochi 18:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Are you trying to ridicule me? Are you trying to insult my intelligence? — EliasAlucard|Talk 20:45 25 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Oh shit, there seems to be a case here, Marsh Arabs. Honestly, I have no idea, but it's quite possible that they could be descendants to the ancient Sumerians. On the other hand, they might just as well be Babylonians or Assyrians. Who knows. — EliasAlucard|Talk 20:52 25 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
hehe im just kidding with u brother, btw i think u did a realy good job on the Swedish Assyrian page even i could not read it (: Nochi 19:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. It was in a terrible shape. From this to this. I'm going to provide lots of sources for the English article as well soon. My goal is to make it a featured article. — EliasAlucard|Talk 21:47 25 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Khon, please keep an eye on kurdish propaganda on Adiabene and other ancient Assyrian kingdoms. Chaldean 14:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Nema problema. Anything specific? — EliasAlucard|Talk 16:49 30 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

Tired!

Hello my friend! I'm tired of edit warring; can we reach a consensus? Brusk u Trishka 01:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

If that consensus is historically accurate, and NPOV, sure, why not? — EliasAlucard|Talk 03:55 31 Jul, 2007 (UTC)
Ok, then we will be talking about it on the talk page of Adiabene. Thanks! Brusk u Trishka 02:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Sure, see you there. — EliasAlucard|Talk 04:05 31 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Hey I didn't kniw if u were joking or not back there but I get a little defensive so sorry if u didn't mean it. You put "lol" there so I figured u were jokin around now. Anyways, no hard feelings.Tourskin 00:42, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I was going to ask, "what's your problem, can't take a joke", but lol gets the job done :) By the way, you can't be "Half Chaldean". It's just an Assyrian Church, that's all. — EliasAlucard|Talk 02:50 01 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Try telling hat to those who believe that Chaldeans are decsended from Babylonians. I don't really know, but I don't realy care cos we're all indigenous Iraqi and proud of our ancestor's destructive achievments!!Tourskin 05:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Another personal attack

With regard to your comments on Ancient Assyrian religion: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. You used the malicious edit summary "moved Ashurism to Ancient Assyrian religion over redirect: conforming to Garzo's whining". — Gareth Hughes 17:48, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

All right, all right, I'll cool down. — EliasAlucard|Talk 19:50 01 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Category: Syrian diaspora

The reason you want to delete the category is not among the few available for speedy deletion: I suggest that you nominate the category at WP:CFD. Carlossuarez46 00:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

hEY!

Hi, u and i HAVE A taste for the badass assyrian empir ebuilding, how do you like my template:

File:Kinadshburn.JPG
"Susa, the great holy city, abode of their gods, seat of their mysteries, I conquered. I entered its palaces, I opened their treasuries where silver and gold, goods and wealth were amassed... I destroyed the ziggurat of Susa. I smashed its shining copper horns. I reduced the temples of Elam to naught; their gods and goddesses I scattered to the winds. The tombs of their ancient and recent kings I devastated, I exposed to the sun, and I carried away their bones toward the land of Ashur. I devastated the provinces of Elam and on their lands I sowed salt.".


Assurbanipal, King of the Asyrians

Use it!Tourskin 02:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Badass, kickass, awesome, spectacular.... I will. — EliasAlucard|Talk 05:42 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Hey how bout we add at the end "Enemies of Assyria, you have had your warning." ??Tourskin 04:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
And those enemies are? — EliasAlucard|Talk 07:00 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Many and closing in fast? Lol I dunno, who cares tho?!Tourskin 05:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
It seems that we Assyrians only have enemies and very few friends. I don't think we're in a position to threaten anyone :) — EliasAlucard|Talk 07:38 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
a bitter end to our little joke. Will all Assyrian endings be as such?Tourskin 05:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
It seems so :) — EliasAlucard|Talk 09:55 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Truth?

The text you cited has been challenged, and, more importantly, it doesn't prove that Aramaeans have been assimilated, as you've suggested. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 08:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and he did reply here It's a well known fact that the Aramaeans were assimilated into the Assyrian Empire. He's not alone in claiming this. He is backed up by many other scholars and historians. So, do you think you're some kind of 'racially pure' Aramaean? Why? — EliasAlucard|Talk 11:11 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Assyrians

No i don't say that Muslims Assyrians is a common thing but you say that if a Assyrian man became a muslim would not assyrian woman marry him?? and many Assyrian woman got large breasts? do u know why? btw i wud never be muslim i wud never miss seeing Assyrian breasts. thanks Nochi 17:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

lol wtf? — EliasAlucard|Talk 19:41 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Lol I came back to see the reply on our joke and i saw this - wtf!? My thoughts exactlyTourskin 18:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, it is kind of true, that many Assyrian women have great tits. Middle Eastern women in general, have humongous tits. That's not a joke. I lol'ed because it's true. The hilarious part is that Nochi was like, came with that shit out of nowhere. I mean, when the hell did we discuss Assyrian women with huge tits? — EliasAlucard|Talk 20:51 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Nochi throughout history when an Assyrian converted to Islam (mostly by force) their kids and great grand kids stopped speaking Syriac and replaced with either Arabic, Kurdish, or Turkish. Thus they assimilate with each of those ethnicities. Their really isn't such thing as a Assyrian muslim (not at least in the middle east) Chaldean 18:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
What Chaldean says is the truth. — EliasAlucard|Talk 20:55 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
THANK YOU JESUS FOR I AM A CHRISTIAN, HAWIT BASIMA CHIM RABA JESUSSSS!!! I WOULD NEVER BE MUSLIM NEVER!! I WOULD NEVER MISS SEEING ASSYRIAN BOOOB THANK GOD I AM ASSYRIAN THANK GOD I AM CHRISTIAN. btw if i became a muslim i wud never seen assyrian boobs right?? thanks Nochi 20:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
loooooooooooool lolol lol — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:53 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
So, are you a Christian becaue of Jesus or because of Assyrian women and their tits? Do Assyrian women have the best breast-fucking tits in the Middle East? What say you? — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:56 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I guess Linda George does give me a boner. I thought that with all this talk I might add this in - don't quote me on it!Tourskin 03:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey fellow Mesopotamian, just checkin out ur page. BTW, if u need me to lend a hand in particular just tell me.Tourskin 03:46, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, I could use some help with these two articles: Syriac Assyrians, Chaldean Assyrians. Garzo and Benne added them on AFD simply because they disagree with the content, this, without even trying to make them what they call, "NPOV". I created these articles because I was hoping that they would, in time, after lots of collaborators have worked on them, give some better understanding of our people, and why things went the way they did. But these two, want them deleted already. — EliasAlucard|Talk 06:37 04 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
BTW, is there an Assyrian user box. I know that this user box:
This user is Assyrian.

Says Chaldean, but I thought that it was betraying my father's atoury side without a an Assyrian box. If u know what I mean. I know we are all the same but still...! Tourskin 05:07, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

It seems that Nochi was playing around. That user box is supposed to say Assyrian. Fixed now. — EliasAlucard|Talk 07:16 05 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. And thanks for adding me as a Chaldean Catholic, I couldn't find a way of doing it. Yeah I consider myself Assyrian but of the Catholic Church. I go to both Latin rite (served in a church for 8 years and counting) but a year ago I went far more often to the Chaldean church next to my house in california! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tourskin (talkcontribs)
Well, I don't go to Church any longer (we don't have Assyrian Churches in the tiny shithole where I live, we used to, though). But I've grown up mostly in the Syriac Orthodox Church. However, I was baptised in the Chaldean Catholic Church, so I guess I'm a Chaldean Catholic as far as religion goes. But ethnically, I am Assyrian. — EliasAlucard|Talk 07:47 05 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

?? Where, may I ask, do you live? Lol!Tourskin 16:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Sweden. — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:22 05 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

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No personal attacks warning

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Sharbel Touma

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did to Sharbel Touma, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- Matthew_hk tc 11:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? What did I possibly do wrong on that article? The guy is an Assyrian, some anon user is trying to change that. Stop pestering me with this. You can't block me for being NPOV. Two sources have been provided to the article now as well, proving me right. I rest my case. — EliasAlucard|Talk 13:58 07 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Assyrian armies

You and I have a bloody taste for Bad-Ass-yrian (lame joke) stuff. I was wondering whether or not such an article as "Assyrian army" was made or not. Many sources say that in Ancient times, only the Romans rivalled the military organization of the Assyians and I have other good info too.

BTW, I saw that Matthew was saying that Sharbel Touma was not an Assyrian - just thought I would let you know that you have my backing, because his very idea that "Assyria is history" is... well it speaks for itself.

Also, I see that you usually reply to people's comments on ur page. Whilst I have no problem with this, it doesn't alert others to the posting.

Baseema raba.

Tourskin 02:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, there is this article: Assyrian Levies. But I agree, we need one about Assyrian armies throughout history as well. We are after all, the first warrior race, according to this documentary: [17] Assyrians still exist. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't studied history. We have however, isolated us from the rest of the world and not bothered anyone. But in the future, we shall rise again. So be it. — EliasAlucard|Talk 05:04 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Lol I see u used the Assyrian army article for another template. But why not red? The color of blood and stuff?Tourskin 20:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I have to read it at least once every day just to remind myself of how badass we Assyrians actually are, and it hurts my eyes to read with a read background. — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:21 09 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Aramaean people

Please stop deleting Aramaen people page if u disagree with something discuss it before removing its vandalism. Nochi 08:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Nochi, please stop trolling. — EliasAlucard|Talk 10:29 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Please do not delete content from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Aramaean people. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for test edits. Thank you. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 08:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Stop trying to sound like an admin. That "article" is blatant POV. Not one single source is cited. — EliasAlucard|Talk 10:49 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Elias do u think that i will see assyrians breasts or never? im serious Nochi 15:17, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Get the fuck off my talk page you stupid troll. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:18 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

NO PERSONAL ATTACK ;) but tell me, u think i will see or never? Nochi 15:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Shut up, pervert. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:27 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
ok fine ur angry at me for no reason fine Nochi 15:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Go fuck yourself, troll. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:38 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
Naaah im wondering fucking ur sister first, then i could see some "Assyrian" boobs ;)Nochi 15:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I have no siblings, stop pestering me with your lame shit. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:41 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

did either of you know that WP:NPA is official policy and as such enforcable by blocks? It is not unheard of that both parties indulging in shouting obscenities at each other are smacked with a "cool down block", so I would advise you to take the niceties to a private channel. dab (𒁳) 15:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

He is trolling my talk page. — EliasAlucard|Talk 17:48 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
he has been blocked for a day. Take it easy. dab (𒁳) 08:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

cite.php

Elias, your misuse of the "ref" tag is messing up whole articles.

  • cite the full work under "References", don't cite it fully in ten consecutive footnote.
  • don't pile up several footnotes in reference to a single statement. Compile a single footnote with whatever needs to be said.
  • don't abuse the "quote=" parameter to quote entire pages.
  • {{cite news}} is specifically for news sources. Don't use it to cite academic papers and the like.

dab (𒁳) 08:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. The cite reference is valuable because the same quote can be reused from several places in the same article, with more clarity, and it saves time for other readers from buying books etcetera when they can just read a short passage fast and get the point. I use {{cite web}} also, but sometimes I forget to fix that. — EliasAlucard|Talk 10:46 09 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
that's questionable even for copyright reasons, and it completely clutters up articles. At least seek consensus for this. Also, you would have more joy if you were acting less aggressively, and showed more inclination to discuss before edit-warring. You are nowhere as disruptive as Nochi, of course, but you are clearly a problem user. dab (𒁳) 08:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I am a problem user because I'm using {{cite news}}? — EliasAlucard|Talk 10:57 09 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
no, because of your unwillingness to discuss constructively. Everyone is "stupid" or a "retard", you "hate" various groups that don't comply with your opinion, and you jump into revert wars before even listening to arguments. All in all most un-wikilike. Your approach to footnotes borders on the disruptive, but that wouldn't be a problem if you were willing to listen. dab (𒁳) 09:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I will put back what u did revert from the Aramaen article. please use talk page before making change. if u still revert thhen i have to report u. Nochi 20:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Syriac is not Assyrian

Please take your time to read the following articles: [18] [19] You'll find that your theory is disputed. Don't try to present it as a fact.

One more request: don't try to draw my personal background into this discussion. You don't have the slightest clue. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 21:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The "theory" is not disputed. Believe it or not, I have already read what you're linking. Not the least impressed or convinced. Also, you only have John Joseph and Muhammad Shamsaddin Megalommatis, and neither of them are neutral on this. There's an entire world of academic scholars from European and American countries, who are unanimous about this. Sure, this is not ad populum, but I take their opinions any day over a fanatic Turk. What is your background, if I may ask? — EliasAlucard|Talk 23:23 09 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Arab vs Semitic!

Elias yourself a dedicated Assyrianist you should respect other peoples history. I ignored many claims by Assyrianist that the Arabs were just a tribe among the Arameans! Just because a tribe called Aribi were among the Aramena allies. And am pretty sure you have your own identity problems with strong headed opnions vs the Anti Assyrianist Arameans. What I am saying is we shouldtake the "Khalil Jibran" look on Lebanon and use it for the mideast it will make things easier. You have your own mideast I have mine! and thats that. Like I already said you can edit the ancient Semites page anyway you want and I will make sure I fix the Ancient Arab page in a way it distinguishes between Arab and the modern Christian Arameans/Assyrians, Jews (myself I want this to be clear and I emphasize on ethnic Arab identity)--Skatewalk 22:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

For starters, stop calling me an "Assyrianist". There's is no such thing as "Christian Arabs". They are just Arabized Christians. That is not the same thing. Arab, is a race, just like Japanese is a race. You don't become an Arab, by speaking Arabic. I would like to see you provide source for these DNA test; Assyrians have a unique DNA profile that distinguishes them from all other peoples; Arabs included (source: [20]). Also, you do not redirect articles by editing a #redirect title because by doing so, you disregard the entire history of the article. You move the article when you want to redirect it. Since you're new here on Wikipedia, how about you get yourself acquainted with the welcome note I added on your talk page? As for this article, I agree with Garzo, that it should be merged with the Semites article, or Arab article. Pick which one you want. There's no need for having a separate article about Arabs being ancient and everything. You can fill it up on the Arab or Semites article. Just make sure to source it properly using <ref>URL</ref>. Thanks. — EliasAlucard|Talk 07:32 10 Aug, 2007 (UTC)