User talk:Dweller/Archive 26

Re: Date Stamp

What do you mean by "Do tell"?

I remember from the tutorial pages that ~~~ gets you your signature without the date stamp, and is usually used to sign votes, ~~~~, most commonly used, for talk pages, and ~~~~~ for just a time stamp. Leujohn ^{(talk, stalk me?)} 13:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh you are a crat? Them maybe you can give some insight into WP:Tutorial (Talk pages) section 3, last sentence. It states:

Also, signing your message off is done by:

• Writing ~~~ for the name (try2BEEhelpful), or
• Writing ~~~~ for the name and date (try2BEEhelpful 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)), or
• Writing ~~~~~ for the date only (19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)).

You should usually sign with both name and date, but votes are often signed with names only.

I would agree with you that an RfA is not a vote, but a consensus. In fact, I would say that most operations on the 'pedia is consensus, not vote. If that is true, I wonder what the word "vote" is doing there. Maybe we should change it. Leujohn ^{(talk, stalk me?)} 13:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Leujohn, are you sure it said vote and not !vote? The latter works by consensus and is supposed to be on quality of argument, hence you don't get through RFA unless you are in the 60-80% band - a bit similar to blackballing though not quite as stiff a challenge. ϢereSpielChequers 18:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Pollock

I suspect my better half might take a browse.... you could try User:SandyGeorgia but I'm not sure whether cricket players are in her areas of expertise. SGGH ^speak! 22:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

flagpoles

No problem! Can't quite remember why or how I discovered you'd lost the image, but figured the page didn't make quite so much sense without the picture, and just happened to know of an alternative (again for some long-forgotten reason). Gwinva (talk) 03:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

FYI -- I sent you an email through the wiki email tool.

Dear Dweller: I sent you an email through the wiki software, and I just wanted to let you know I had done so. Thanks. ⇔ ∫Æ_S dt @ 05:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Rename

Could you rename me?--Nazzzz (talk) 13:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Done.--Nazzzz (talk) 13:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, could you look again?--Nazzzz (talk) 13:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Ooops!--Nazzzz (talk) 14:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Adminship

Hi Dweller, thank you for your kind note – I'm glad to know that you'd consider nominating me for Adminship. Unfortunately, my activity on Wikipedia is pretty sporadic (certainly has been over the past couple of months). I tend to go into hibernation on Wikipedia a lot due to work/outside activities so I don't think I could consider running at this time. Perhaps if things taper off in the future, I might be able to look into an RfA. Thank you for your consideration, though :) AreJay (talk) 15:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which recently passed with 123 in support, 22 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Just like to say thanks for the nom Dweller. Couldn't have done it without you. •If you want to reply to this message please use my talk page as watch listing about 150 pages is a bit messy• ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 19:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Graeme Pollock

It's a definite B but you'll need a lot more content for an A. I've changed the rating to B on the talk page and you can see there the criteria we use.

We don't actually have any A-class articles and personally I don't see the point. I regard B as the base camp for attempts on GA and FA. If you look at the B-class rating criteria you'll see they are quite demanding in terms of the basic quality concepts. You could propose this for GA now but I guess they would ask for more content and come up with a list of other things still to be done; even so, it isn't far short of GA.

I'm just old enough to remember Graeme Pollock as a player. He was a brilliant batsman. In my view, he was the second best in the world in the sixties after the incomparable Gary Sobers. Good luck with getting the article onto the DVD. ---BlackJack | ^{talk page} 16:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --Dweller (talk) 17:01, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Article in German wikipedia + interwiki done, hope it does help you --Henning M (talk) 19:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Graeme Pollock

Howdy Dweller, I had to do a fair amount of clean up in the article; an abundance of adjectives were littered about. Also, some things need specifying and some things citing. There are some paragraphs that require citations (you'll see whole blocks of uncited text), some of the cricket terminology used may be slightly difficult to understand for someone who isn't familiar with the sport. Perhaps if you gave a very brief description of it (e.g. "Pollock scored x runs (a run being he blah blah blah)" etc.) in parenthesis or between commas. In terms of actual content: A bit more on his youth career perhaps? Playing style is bare (Are there any sites online that do analysis of cricketer's style?), can any more be written? Personal life: Is Pollock married? Kids? et al. Apart from those things (that shouldn't be that difficult to handle) it looks okay! Feel free to point out anything that I've turned into a problem that actually isn't a problem. Take care, Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 19:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think an explanation of cricketing terms needs to be added, it would needlessly clog up the article: surely the purpose of wikilinks is to provide information on technical terms? Nev1 (talk) 19:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

See my reply on Scarian's talk, :-) --Dweller (talk) 19:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Scarian's comments are the sort of thing I expected, really, though I agree entirely that we must use wikilinks to deal with terminology as otherwise we would lose focus. Having recently got an article through GA the impression I have is that they are particularly keen on citations and you could literally need a citation in every single sentence. They deplore things like standalone sentences; starting a sentence with "then" or "now" and the like; too many adjectives (as above); any hint of POV or non-objective tone; etc.

One thing I'm at odds with them about (on the GA talk page) is their interpretation of "broad coverage" as applied to a short article (probably irrelevant to Pollock as this article has quite a wide scope). The issue is that some GA reviewers expect a lengthy article even when the scope is restricted by lack of data. My argument is that the coverage should encompass the entire scope of the topic and not lose focus. There is a subtle difference there and I think it is important. Actually, if you can persuade User:Wizardman to do the GA review, I think you will find he will do it right but he does expect a high standard of article (rightly so). Good luck. ---BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Mop needed

If you know how to, could you merge the history of User:Ceoil/Lucy into Lucy (poems) by chance? It shouldn't have any date overlap, so there shouldn't be any foreseeable problems. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

It's difficult for me to agree to this, because I don't know how contentious the differences are. Why not propose a merge, following WP:MERGE? --Dweller (talk) 14:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you look at the history, it was an incomplete stub that was edited in user talk, and the page had no activity during the time. Merge tends to be for two project pages that should be combined into one, and don't necessarily have their histories merged. As you can see, WP:MERGE has no process for merging two page histories. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Should I bring it up in AN to get a larger consensus for such a thing? Ottava Rima (talk) 14:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm no expert on merging - as you can see! --Dweller (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if anyone really is. :) I just saw that you were active at the time. History merging is one of those strange areas. I'll bring it up on AN and see what people say. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Good plan. Or VP perhaps. Up to you. --Dweller (talk) 15:28, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

You might just be looking for the {{db-histmerge}} template? Or list it at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. --Amalthea^Talk 15:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Haha, that works. I'll remove my entry at AN. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:33, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Kiko (name) re.

I just type what I read. :) It may be so that there are male Kiko's but the name is apparently mainly for female use, might also be a variation of another name but I don't know for sure. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your help. I'm planning my final log-in for tomorrow, just in case something happens that changes my mind. Dmetric (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Frano Botica

Thx. But one lil ol' infobox does not an article make. I'll get back to expand the copy. -Sticks66 03:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Speight FAC

Hey friend,

Could you possibly give your opinion on this? He's cross-posted to a few places trying to bring people's attention to it. Is he right? Is it really that bad? I'm just a little hurt and surprised that's all. I thought I'd ask you, since you are experienced with FAs, and you gave it a support. Thanks. – How do you turn this on (talk) 10:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm no edits for three days. Hope you're OK. Best wishes, – How do you turn this on (talk) 11:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Interested

Hello. I was interested to read your comment at WT:RfA since I had occasionally thought about applying for admin, but whenever I look at the WP:RfA page it looks exactly like a job application. I would imagine there are many editors who, like me, might be willing to help out from time to time, perhaps just to clear up any mess in one little corner of Wikipedia (in my case, more-or-less WP:Mathematics) but do not have the time or energy to commit themselves to taking responsibility for any of the major housekeeping tasks. It has been said that the title of "administrator" is not a big deal but frankly this no longer seems to be true. Richard Pinch (talk) 07:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Unusual candidates - Tinucherian

Dear Dweller, re your quest for unusual candidates, may I suggest you check out user:Tinucherian? He's done 18,000 edits, has no blocks and has the interested in admin box. In User:Tinucherian/Adminship he said he wasn't ready, but that was written more than four months ago. I suspect after my recent RFA experience a nomination from myself would be counterproductive, but I think he might meet your criteria. ϢereSpielChequers 12:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I dunno

I saw your post about nominating "unusual" candidates. I don't know how unusual I really am, but frankly I can't bring myself to write my own nom. I've got over 8,000 edits, never been blocked or reported to ANI, but I seem to have a tendency to accidently piss people off. I consider myself an "editor" in the strictest sense of the word, I go over other's work and help it/criticize it to the best of my ability, but I don't have any bright shiny things to point to like GAs or FAs because that's just not where I'm focused. Whaddya think? Beeblebrox (talk) 23:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Dweller. You have new messages at Beeblebrox's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

In response to your post on WT:RFA

I noticed this, and wondered if you would continue to monitor me to see whether I would be suitable to run in say, 4 months time? I seem to fit the criteria - especially in that I have little to no want to write a FA, DYK or the like because I am a massive gnome. As per your instructions, I will request an editor review in two months or so to see how thing are going according to the community. If you have any concerns or queries, or just want to acknowledge that you have read this message, please do feel free to drop me a line. — neuro^(talk) 18:53, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and also, I might add that aside from my gnometry I spend a lot of time doing anti-vandalism work, and occasionally dwell over at the help desk. I have 65 edits to AIV (I'd say 40 are reports and the rest are extensions of reports), and just under 20 at the help desks and village pumps collectively. As I say, my record so far just shows what I am capable of doing, I obviously am not ready for an RfA at this time, that is even if you think I would pass after the aforementioned time. Thanks again. — neuro^(talk) 19:01, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Adminship

As with my last RFA i despise my editing habits. Immediately after my first RFA I did change my habits and spread out over more areas and got involved with many discussion and i am sure I could find diffs from that period.

Unfortunately my last few thousand edits have been mainly automated vandalism reverting and that has taken u a majority of this months edits in total for me. My reason behind this are for some reason all of the vandalism bots managed to stop working and maybe semi automated vandalism reverting programs failed for people meaning although there was the same amount of vandalism more of it was slipping through the cracks.

One diff I have managed to find is this which isn't really a discussion but more a friendly conversation.

I have had some discussions / conversations on my talk page also and some short talks on the Huggle feedback page due to my involvement with the development. Please ask if you would like more. ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 15:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Question about an unusual RFA

Hello, Dweller (or anyone who happens to see this). I am a rather active user here at the English Wikipedia, as can be verified through my contribs, although that's besides the point of what I am about to ask you. I have been working on developing a tool for Wikipedia sysops that makes it much easier for sysops to patrol AIV and easily block users there. Without sysop status, of course, it is very difficult for me to test the tool, and due to this, I have been relying upon other admins. However, as you may or may not know, it is very difficult to develop an application in this manner. I was wondering whether or not it would be appropriate for me to submit a (perhaps temporary) RfA for myself so I could more easily develop this tool. I have been around for around five months, but only been particularly active for the past month or so. Let me know what you think, _David^WS _(contribs) 21:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

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Admin nomination of User:Red Thunder

I would be happy to co-nominate Red Thunder with you, as he is my former adopter (graduating as soon as he replies). I have only been here for 1 1/2 months, but have rollback and close to 1000 edits, so I think I would be credible enough. If there is anything I can do, let me know on my talk, or leave me a talkback template. Thanks! Jock Boy (t/c) Sign 01:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello Dweller. I would also like to nominate Red Thunder for adminship. I've been watching him for a few months now, and I have seen everything positive from his edits. I'd be happy to nominate/co-nominate him. But please note I have not made many nominations for adminship before here on the English Wikipedia. I have done a few nominations at a different Wikipedia (see simple:User:RyanCross/RfA noms), but maybe only one or two here. I hope that is fine with you. I'm sure Red Thunder will do fine. His last RfA was back in April, and it looks like he's improved since. – RyanCross (talk) 06:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Please see Red Thunder's talk page. --Dweller (talk) 11:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Very well. I have looked at it, and have agreed to your comment about starting another editor review and asking participants from his last RfA to comment who had the most concerns about him. I'll be open to nominate/co-nominate when the time comes, that is, if Red Thunder is still interested in adminship then. Cheers, – RyanCross (talk) 02:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm still here for a trifecta of nominations if you want it. Just let me know. Jock Boy (t/c) Sign 04:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you fix this

,H.Á.G,G,E,R?. thanks 211.30.109.24 (talk) 11:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

World champion

Not the best heading title, perhaps should have been "World Champions" which they probably were from 67 onwards but given its entirely unofficial nature not really satisfying. It's late here and the judgement circuits in the brain are shutting down! I am planning on expanding the Test career section substantially this weekend, especially if it keeps raining here, and the sub-headings will be useful, I promise. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 12:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Changed and perhaps less POV. Now off to bed, another exciting Friday night! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 12:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Pollock

Sure. I'll even put one on nn:, it's basically the same language. :) Sam Vimes | Address me 12:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Email

You have some. :) MBisanz ^talk 06:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you

		Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar
		For the excellent peer review you gave to Roman Catholic Church and for you very nice support vote. I am sorry to inform you that we failed FAC but will again be at peer review in a few weeks. I hope you will come back to help us then. Thanks again for your kindness. NancyHeise talk 00:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Explain

Dweller, Kindly explain why Islam is FA with zero criticism. and Roman Catholic Church with vast critical input, is barred from FA for being too POV. Then tell me again how fair and impartial the process and editors are. That should be interesting. Xandar 21:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

If you're prepared to discuss things in a reasonable and calm manner, I'll be happy to respond. I have no idea about the quality of Islam or its FAC as I haven't read either or participated in either. But it's 100% irrelevant to RCC. If Islam is a bad article it can/should go straight to FAR and have its status revoked. If it's a bad article, promoting another article that isn't deemed ready isn't a good idea. The articles are entirely disconnected and I find your insinuations bizarre and offensive. At this point you might like to review my own record on RCC, where I switched from opposing at previous FAC to detailed questionning and ultimately fairly elaborate praise-lavishing support at this one. Perhaps that best tells the story of how fair and impartial the process and editors are. And calm down - just because you're angry gives you no right to insult hard-working volunteers, most of whom, like me, care not a jot for anything other than seeing the highest possible standards at FAC. You might care to review the FAC history of Introduction to evolution, where I was accused of POV-pushing; ultimately, and fairly easily in the end, the matter was resolved. This is not new to FAC and RCC is not a unique case. --Dweller (talk) 22:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: As a courtesy...

Thanks for the notification about the username change request. Can/should I do something in order to attempt to avoid such things in the future?

This confusion with the Bengali editor is quite unfortunate. I thought that my registering and using this username on meta and commons would make things clear, but I didn't think I would need to check all the other languages :/

--Joy [shallot] (talk) 00:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, apparently not :) And right now I can't seem to be able to do it unless that other editor relinquishes the username... or can I? I tried looking it up but this conflicting case isn't clearly explained anywhere I looked. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 22:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedy tag for 1st class cricketers.

Sorry about that. I have already nominated a bunch of them. I would like to know how I class cricketers are notable? International crickets are perfectly fine but first class cricketers would be extending the definition of notability according to me. Rule reads out -

• Competitors who have competed in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, golf or tennis.
• Competitors who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports. Participation in and in most cases winning individual tournaments, except the most prestigious events, does not make non-athletic competitors notable. This includes, but is not limited to, poker, bridge, chess, Magic:The Gathering, Starcraft, etc.

I am not sure if first class cricket satisfies highest level. --GPPande talk! 21:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

To but in with the answer: "Competitors who have competed in a fully professional league". First-class cricketers are fully professional. Nev1 (talk) 21:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

(follow up) Actually, that isn't exactly true, but the first-class competitions today are professional and the historic competitions are of equal standing. Nev1 (talk) 21:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

The two Speedy deletion tags

Hi there - just pinging you back. Seems that the situation is sorted now. Thank you for notifying me. Bobo. 12:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stacy denney

That comment seems a little harsh. Why do you think it was inappropriate to bring it to AfD? --Dweller (talk) 13:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

First let me say, I do appreciate you turning down the "Speedy" Dweller. However, I noticed that you are an Administrator here at Wikipedia. In that light, I hold you to a higher standard. I expect our Administrator's to take that extra step, go that extra mile, walk in that other persons shoessss. (pun intended :-). I admit it is a borderline case! But on the other hand, you asked for and received the nod of the community to make those borderline decisions when you received those extra buttons. With that said, I ask that our Administrator research a piece before exercising the community at an Afd especially if reliable - verifiable - creditable - and independent sources are found, source the piece - rewrite the piece - and make Wikipedia a true source for the dissemination of information, not a place that excludes information based on opinion or personal believes. Now that is a mouthful :-). ShoesssS ^Talk 14:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Why do you assume that all admins have the time and expertise to verify every article they find while working on CSD? There's enough of a backlog as it is. Admins are granted the tools because the community trusts them not to abuse them, not because the community thinks they can unilaterally make a correct judgement on notability every time. The speedy nom was incorrect. The article in the shape it was in was of dubious notability, I do not trust my own expertise on published author notability, and I needed to crack on with cleaning up CSD so went to AfD... hence my carefully worded nom. I'm puzzled that you think prod would have been a better option - in my experience, they get less scrutiny not more and the article would more likely have ended up deleted. --Dweller (talk) 14:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Ahhhh, differences of opinion, that is what I like about Wikipedia, even when I get my own nose tweaked :-). However, the reasons you state are the very reasons I hold you to a higher standard as an Administrator. Is your major concern clearing backlogs, or getting it right? As an Administrator I would hope it is getting it right! :-). ShoesssS ^Talk 14:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Hence I didn't delete it, prod it or leave it lying in the state it was in. AfD was the correct call exactly because I wasn't sure. --Dweller (talk) 14:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Difference of opinion and nothing more. ShoesssS ^Talk 14:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Unusual candidate

I think that I would be a good admin, and an unusual candidate. I have not made any slip-ups in the last few months. Don't let my slowish editcount fool you (about two-hundred-and-something a month, 1500 in total), I think I have made the right call on almost everything. If I had about 2000-2500 edits what would you think about nominating me? SpecialK(KoЯn flakes)

Hi. I wouldn't worry too much about editcount at this stage. It's more quality than quantity that counts.

Questions:

1. Are you always civil?
2. Any experience in adminny areas?
3. Have you had a ER?

Regards, --Dweller (talk) 11:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

In response to your questions:

1. Yes, can't think of any times I haven't.
2. Yes - CSD (a lot of), Afd (sometimes) and RFPP (I've got Jamia nestor salted and Jeff Katz unsalted)
3. Yes (WP:Editor review/Universal Cereal Bus)

Thanks, SpecialK(KoЯn flakes) 18:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm also starting to work in UAA now SpecialK(KoЯn flakes) 10:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC) -->

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Illhealth?

Wishing you well and a speedy recovery. Best of regards, AGK 22:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your RfA

Thanks Dweller for passing the nom, and for the advice and link. Get well soon, too. Regards, --Efe (talk) 02:37, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Stuff and all

Hey dude. Hope things are going okay for you. Just wanted to pop by to say that given my involvement with Mr "Tennis expert" I'm going to let it go and see what others have to say. My position on his crazy reversions and refusal to improve the tennis project is well documented. He sees it as "bad mouthing" and "harassment" but none of my edits to "his" articles have ever gone against the MOS, ever been "blind" as he puts it and I, for one, hope his retirement isn't just being a diva.

Also, I checked out the Ambrose article, I removed the last bit which seemed a little odd and even if cited, somewhat trivial, so thanks for that too.

More soon, it's very very very very very wet in Malaysia at the moment! Hope you enjoyed the England friendly, I missed it but caught the goals on CNN - sounded like we deserved the win for a change...! The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 08:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I corrected your blind reverts as follows: Monica Seles, Andrea Jaeger, Natasha Zvereva, Francoise Durr, Margaret Osborne duPont, Nancye Wynne Bolton, Jana Novotna, Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, Malivai Washington, Wendy Turnbull, Virginia Ruzici, Cedric Pioline, Jennifer Capriati, Mima Jausovec, Conchita Martinez, Jennifer Capriati (2), Emilio Sanchez, Tony Roche, Elizabeth Ryan, Marion Jones, Christophe Rochus. Tennis expert (talk) 20:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I think that would better have been put on The Rambling Man's talk page, as it's him you're addressing. --Dweller (talk) 09:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Got your message re Tennis expert. As we all know, he's well capable of purging his talk page of anything negative, without any help from me (gender assumed). --El Ingles (talk) 15:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It's a classic case of denial. It is equally clear that he has not retired. Ohconfucius (talk) 03:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

personal note; forgot sig

Hi Dweller,

• Noticed the template atop this page. Hope you're doing better!
• You forgot to sign your comments at WT:FAC.
• later! Ling.Nut ^{(talk—WP:3IAR)} 09:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I did... --Dweller (talk) 10:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

That's weird! I looked twice and saw no sig. Now I see one, even in the hist. Man, it's been too many years since those late-night readings of Carlos Castaneda for this to be flashbacks.... Anyhow, never mind! :-) Ling.Nut ^{(talk—WP:3IAR)} 12:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Illness

Hey, noticed the template at the top of your user page and thought I would drop you a message wishing you well. Here's hoping you are better soon, eh? Regards, — neuro^(talk) 14:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Your warning to me!

Your warning to me [1] was made about I comment I made on my own talk page, meant as a joke, to a person harassing me own talk page. This hardly seems like a fair warning. I don't see it as "way out of line" as recently I have seen user's blocked contested and overturned within minutes as unreasonable because they contended that profanity and slurs made in edit summaries and on other's talk pages were meant as jokes. However, since you have the power to make my life very unpleasant, I will refrain from any more interaction with User:Casliber or the Major depressive disorder article. Please tell [[User:Casliber] to stop posting on my talk page. I have never posted on his. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC) ⋅

From reading the comment you made and not knowing the context, I agree it was inappropriate, humor must be clearly humor to be funny, that was not, also please remember, we do not own our talk pages. MBisanz ^talk 16:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

OK. I have requested that Casliber cease posting his harassing comments on my talk page. I have never posted on his. I have also withdrawn from the FAC. My comment was a joke made after responding to an exhausting number of posts by him on my page. Since I have been personally attacked by him several times, and did not ask for a block I think this is very unfair. I will delete his posts from my page and any further posts Casliber makes and will not respond to them. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Someone pointed out on ANI that Casliber saw it as a joke. 07:30, 23 November 2008 Casliber (Talk | contribs) (46,441 bytes) (hahaha) Am I still under threat of a block from you? Casliber continued to post on my page all night, while I was asleep. Then, 8 hours after my comment you issued a block warning, not only a warning but saying that you should have blocked me with no warning! —Mattisse (Talk) 18:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

You are free to remove any messages to your talk page, it is a sign you have read them, so if after you remove a warning or something that Casliber or Dweller may place, and do whatever it is they may have warned you on, you can be blocked for it. MBisanz ^talk 18:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

• That is different from what the ANI thread is saying. They are saying the block warning was unwarranted and it is a fuss over nothing.[2]
• [3]
• [4]

Who is right? —Mattisse (Talk) 19:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Your vandalism of Year of the Four Emperors

Well, I see this as a display of ill-tasted humour. You added "The summer of the four captains" in the "See also" list. Had you any other intention except for ridiculing Wikipedia? Dipa1965 (talk) 06:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

It was neither vandalism, nor humour. Would you care to review the material before throwing around accusations? --Dweller (talk) 12:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

"Would you care to review the material before throwing around accusations?" Ok, I retract vandalism accusation and apologize for that (we all have to deal with vandals every day and I hadn't noticed your identity), you are right in that and please modify this section's title as you wish. But to review WHAT MATERIAL? A cricket article? I care to review relevant material only. You added a single sentence reference to that page and you think this justifies the inclusion of a cricket article in the "See also" list of a serious Roman history subject? And what if Vespasian was also e.g. a name of a candy brand? Should we have to include it too? Other editors (justifiably) remove video game references from Roman history articles and you add such irrelevant material? Dipa1965 (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

While I understand that it's neither vandalism nor humour (I can understand the link), I don't think it's appropriate to link a cricket article to a Roman history one. Nev1 (talk) 14:15, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, that's interesting, but I do. It's just the kind of whimsical link people surfing a wikilinked article may choose to follow. Does it do any harm? No. Is there a connection? Yes. Is there a surfeit of "See also"s on that page? No. So, why not? --Dweller (talk) 14:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

So you are actually admitting what I said before about the humour (of course you would not accept the "ill-tasted" part of the comment). Could you accept that our annoyance is more likely to be on the majority side? What else we have to bring to discussion to convince you? And yes, I do think that the irrelevant and ridiculous reference seriously harms the article's integrity Dipa1965 (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say it's humour. --Dweller (talk) 20:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

It's how I interpret the "whimsical link". Cultural differences I may assume and I have nothing but to accept your words although I thought that the pun is obvious to anyone. Anyway, do you want to understand that your addition might be irritating to the average serious reader? (of course, if you don't want to discuss in good faith, you would ask for precise statistics on the reader annoyance etc etc). In case you don't care to consider my objections (and because the last thing I want is an edit war with you or anyone else for ANY matter), I am thinking of adding a similar "whimsical" link to that cricket article. Perhaps then you might understand my point but admittedly this wouldn't be the right way to convince you. Dipa1965 (talk) 20:59, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

No, because that'd be WP:POINTy. I'll post to WT:CRIC and see if the (ever-so-serious) cricket community thinks like you. I'll happily go with their opinion. Meanwhile, please be careful with flinging around accusations of vandalism and needless levity - especially when you throw them at other volunteers who, like yourself, lovingly devote hours of serious care and attention to improving Wikipedia. --Dweller (talk) 21:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Year_of_the_Four_Emperors_link_to_cricket_article. I'll stand back and watch what they say. There's not usually an excess of humour on that page, so I expect a serious response - they'll probably agree with you. --Dweller (talk) 21:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Does make it sense to discuss it with the cricket community instead of a more relevant project like WikiProject Military or Biography? Dipa1965 (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Btw, I am half-agreeing with you stating "I'd have responded differently if I'd been approached in a positive manner in the first place". It is correct that you weren't treated as such (see circumstances and apologies above) but, in the long term, decisions should not be based on personal disputes. Dipa1965 (talk) 21:42, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

FLRC speedy removal criteria

Hi, I thought you might want to know about this discussion, any comments or ideas that you have are more than welcome. Thanks, Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:42, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

ANI Comment

I read through the comment that you made on the ANI board. As far as I can tell, I saw nothing wrong with your comment towards me. If I was mistaken about your level of involvement with that editor, then you have a right to say so. I was not aware that you even made the comment, but thanks for letting me know about it anyway. As far as the dispute goes, I have no say in the matter either way, and was not trying to take sides. Just making a helpful comment, but if infered too much from the edit history then I would be wrong. There is nothing wrong with being wrong.--Jojhutton (talk) 17:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

FYI

I thought you should be aware of this thread related to Bus stop (under "Question").[5] Ty 04:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

thanks. --Dweller (talk) 15:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

When you've been around long enough...

people pick up things you have left well-enough alone. I started asking "why isn't Dayan a dab page?" And found you've been there already. You might have a comment on Thresholds: dab page when lots of in-text disambiguations are then required. And then again, you might want to leave it well-enough alone. :-) Hope you feel better soon, and long. Shenme (talk) 06:24, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Well wishes

Dweller, I apologize for being slow to notice your mentions that you haven't been well. You are always in my thoughts, and please do e-mail me if a listening ear will help. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Sheesh. You're apologising? No need. Thanks for the good wishes. I'm hoping to be back to normal in a week or so. --Dweller (talk) 15:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Ponty Pirate

Hello, I respect your decision not to remove my ban. However I find it unacceptable to be banned forever so I have had no other option but to create a new account. I would have liked my old account Ponty Pirate and you could have scrutinised my edits should you have felt the need.

I am obviously not revealing my new identity but am quite confident that you cannot link it to me in any way or you would have already blocked it.

[[6]]

All the best. Ponty Pirate. 89.240.174.194 (talk) 14:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

From the section you linked to: "This option is also not available to banned users, who are prohibited from editing Wikipedia altogether, either anonymously or under any user name." Good luck staying clear of the Checkusers. --Dweller (talk) 14:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Disruptive editors

Hi there DWELLER, VASCO from PORTUGAL here,

regarding my report of a rather disruptive editor (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football), you responded "If you suspect someone is evading a block, you should report it at WP:CHECKUSER, not here."

My fellow user, that is not my original idea, i merely exposed my case at WFOOTY because this "user" (rather unuser) i reported operates in FOOTBALL articles and, keeping your answer's train of thought, i did not feel he was "evading a block" (dont even know what that is), i simply wanted to know what could be done to block, since he adds NOTHING to the site.

Anyways, thanks for the clearing, keep safe,

VASCO AMARAL - --217.129.67.28 (talk) 21:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

WT:RFA

I did wonder when you first posted that but to be honest it worked well in both sections :) Pedro :  Chat  12:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Besides, this way, I "earned" the page three edits, so it was actually three times more effective a post. --Dweller (talk) 12:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations Dweller on hitting 200 renames. It's a hell of an amount in a relatively short period of time so well done - it's an amazing effort. You've obviously been able to prove me wrong. You're a good guy Dweller, you really are. Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 18:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Oy, I didn't know about this bit of good news! ... Ha ha ha, that's what you get for running during my wiki-break. My vote, !vote, whatever, would have put you on that hundredy-list (wherever it is). And get well soon :(. ---Sluzzelin talk 21:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks guys. Ryan, I dunno if I've done 200 renames yet, probably not. Just gone past 200 edits to WP:CHU. But I'm workin'. <grins> Sluzzelin, I found it pleasingly interesting to finish with 99 supports! I didn't run for Crat as a popularity contest, but because I wanted to help in new areas and perceived a need. Not getting into WP:100 was probably a good thing for my ego. --Dweller (talk) 14:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Just messin' :) And help the pedia you do... There's no shortage of overdeveloped eggo here at WP, but you seem to have left yours at the doorstep. ---Sluzzelin talk 02:03, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Millennium '73

Thanks for your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Millennium '73/archive1. Due to the holiday weekend, I didn't get a chance to respond to you before FAC was closed. In most of the cases, I'd been too quick to remove sources from the intro in response to another reviewer who complained about their number. Those were simple to restore. The matter of the evening addresses being "highlights" was a good point (some observers found them painfully dull). I've attributed it to the schedule itself, which calls them the "highlight" or "keystone" of the daily program.[7] I'll be submitting the article for GA (which I'd skipped on perhaps poor advice), so if you have any other feedback it'd be most welcome. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Good stuff. But I don't see why you shouldn't keep going for FA - it's in a very good position from which to get there. Let me know if/when a new FAC opens. --Dweller (talk) 14:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

re Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2008/Candidate_statements/Risker/Questions_for_the_candidate#Question_from_Mattisse

I added some diffs in response to your request and would really appreciate Risker's answering them, since he/she did not answer my questions posted on his/her talk page on the same issues some days ago. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 19:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Meh

Hi. I'm trying to figure out why you re-created Meh. It failed two AFDs: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meh and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meh/old and I don't see anything in the current version which would make me think it wouldn't fail another. Is there something I'm missing here? -- RoySmith (talk) 03:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I should really add something to its talk page - and will do. As I posted here, I felt that the article I created passed WP:V and was more than a dictionary definition, which (presumably) the articles deleted at VfD did not. --Dweller (talk) 10:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Unease about Risker?

(Copied from her vote page.) If I may, what causes your "unease" with Risker? I've never had anything but happy interactions with her, and have never known her to be anything but polite and civil in the face of some rather "hairy" problems she's been faced with. Feel free to answer at my talk if you prefer.^S._D.D.J.Jameson 18:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for taking my question to you in the spirit it was intended. While we disagree on Risker's suitability for Arbcom, I appreciate your dramah-free response and explanation. Oh, and you were absolutely right on about how those looking for a reason for dramah would respond. I've removed it from Risker's vote page. ^S._D.D.J.Jameson 16:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

About Tennis_expert talk page removal of "retired"

Yeah I do. He tries to be a martyr for his ban and puts the retired there, but keeps on posting and on reverting using Tennis expert or an accepted by him (*) sockpuppet: 75.34.102.227

• = http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tennis#tennis_expert_keeps_doing_the_same_with_anonymous_IPs

Korlzor (talk) 21:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Your link does not verify that 75.34.102.227 is a sockpuppet of Tennis Expert. It doesn't prove that it is "accepted by him" either.--HJensen, talk 18:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Acid dissociation constant - re-written lead

I have now re-written the lead for acid dissociation constant. The essential content of the lead is the same as before. The effect of this change will be that when chemists will read the explanatory material they will say to themselves, yes, I know that, but non-chemists will hopefully get the gist of what the article is about

I invite you to read it and then record your “vote”, e.g. “now support” or “still oppose”, at wp:Featured_article_candidates/Acid_dissociation_constant. I have assembled a list of names under Re-written lead, so that the responses will be collected together in one place.

Some minor disagreements will inevitably remain. These should not be a reason for opposition. Rather, put constructive ideas on the article’s talk page, so that the article can be further improved by the normal editing process. Petergans (talk) 09:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Itub (talk) has proposed an alternative, shorter version of the lead at User:Itub/ADC lead. Petergans (talk) 10:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the post on my page. Decide to edit mostly in the mainspace for now, not getting involved in any long debates or reviews. For now, I'm concentrating my efforts on the attacks article page. As a local, there is a lot of misinformation on the topography going on, and I have to fix these issues time and again. Do watch the BN, CHU and RFA pages for now, I'm not too keen on looking there at this moment. PS There was an essay link (a disclaimer) you posted on WT:FC on not being able to read long winded discussions, and give your direct input instead. Do you have this link? =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Contras

Hi Dweller. Hope you're well.

The Contras Mediation seems to be somewhat stale, even after the latest attempts at reviving it. Would it be sensible to call it a day here and close?

The ball is in your court; if you would like to close the case, let me know and I'll handle the paperwork.

Regards, AGK 22:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Username request: decided against

Good evening. I didn't get your e-mail first of all, but second and most importantly, I chose to end my request and keep my name United Statesman. I'd rather not Google pick up my Wikipedia userpage. But thanks for your effort nevertheless. 'Twas much appreciated. United Statesman (talk) 01:13, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

" And I'd like to think I'm a damn good copy-editor "

...Oh, but you are... one of the very best and the most energetic. But even Jove nods. Johnlp (talk) 14:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Username

Please see the message I left for you at WP:CHU. --Dweller (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

No worries, it all worked fine, in both user and user talk space. Thanks! --bainer (talk) 05:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:AUS 200 GA run

Hi Dweller. At WP AUS were trying to get to 200 GAs by tthe end of the year or maybe Australia Day next year (Jan 26). Last year we went from 82 to 106 in December. Since you have written many quality articles on Australian cricketers, I wonder if you would like to chip in. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Harlequins/Saracens stats

I'm afraid I'm not particularly well versed in English rugby, so I wouldn't have a clue where to start looking for stats for players of those clubs. The obvious starting point would be those clubs' websites, but other than that, I'm stumped. Sorry. – PeeJay 12:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

• Same as Peejay. My thing is Welsh union, so not my kettle of fish. I've scoured the internet, but found little info of help outside what you have already come across. Apologies. FruitMonkey (talk) 20:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Email important

Ping. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the present :-)

Hope you feel well, soon. miranda 09:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

RL Bios

Hi, saw you have edited a few of my pages that violated copyright - I remember I did edit those pages in my more formative stages of editing and I completely forgot to go back over them! Sorry!.

I thibk the only other page that was edited by myself was Roger Millward but not sure if that is in violation of copyright. Renegade MUFC (talk) 18:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Forces2canaries

Hey dude, just checking in from Queensland, boy it's hot... I noticed this guy had created a bunch of AFDable material, and then saw his userpage. Not sure about his username either, failing per WP:U? A good cause but still....? Hope the knee etc is healing okay... keep in touch! The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 08:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:FLRC

Pretty quiet. There's a low volume of nominations, so there's never that pressing feeling you have at FLC. My only quip is remembering to archive on GimmeBot's assigned run time, and missing the Wednesday one means waiting over half a week for the Sunday deadline or being forced to archive manually, which sucks. The majority of the candidates are old FLs that miserably fail the current criteria, so most of them tend to be fairly uncontroversial. With today's standards though, there's a fairly constant flow of nominations from the FLC regulars, who do a good job of commenting on FLRCs. In any case, welcome back and hope you're well. Cheers, — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 12:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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reply

what exactly needs clarifying about it. Skitzo (talk) 10:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Edward Von Strausberg

How do you know it's fiction? --Dweller (talk) 15:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, I wish he was a real person, but if it was true I would expect there to be some references to the fellow on Google...Rcawsey (talk) 15:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I suspect you're right (Benzene says the substance was discovered by Faraday) but I feel the prudent way to deal with hoax articles that aren't 100% obvious hoaxes, is to go via AfD... --Dweller (talk) 15:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, here it is: the article was created by User: Ginglik, which is the name of a nightclub based in the ex-so-called laboratory in Shepherd's Bush - [[8]], Seems to have been set up as publicity for a Hallowen party...Rcawsey (talk) 15:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Club nicknames

Just a reminder, in case it has slipped your mind! - Dudesleeper / Talk 20:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Really unsure, personally. Persuadable... --Dweller (talk) 11:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

my username

I'd like to ask why I'm not allowed to call attention to my Jewishness. Why am I not allowed to be proud to be a Jew on wikipedia?

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Blackpower

Sometimes it feels like post-holocaust, to prove that Jews are not discriminated against, we are told to be invisible. In my country, if we push too hard for a Jewish identity, we are told we are not American enough. I have personally had the experience of being blamed for the death of Jesus by Americans. I have proudly watched my mother scold a woman with a nazi-style swastika tattoo in a Nebraska grocery store. During the Christmas season we (along with the Blacks, Muslims, and especially Black Muslims) can be and occasionally are blamed for the so-called "war on Christmas" which, despite the overwhelming popularity of the holiday, some Americans believe exists. When I travel around the world, I am sometimes blamed by Europeans and Muslims for the war in Iraq because I'm American, but additionally the state of Israel because I'm Jewish, and often a connection is made between the two, despite my personal disgust with the war in question and my own lack of support for the state of Israel. I tell you these things not because I want you to feel sorry for me, but because I want you to understand why I feel the need to be proud (sometimes aggressively, hence my use of the word "kike") to be a Jew. This is why I speak Yiddish and pray only in Hebrew, even though I am not very religious. And this is why I wanted to label myself obviously as a Jew in some way. I tried first the obvious Hebrew letters, which I admittedly took too far by throwing in a clearly offensive word (even if it is an offensive word for ME) but then I tried to compromise by using latin characters and choosing a neutral word for Jews. This was STILL rejected, and it makes me feel like I'm not allowed to be proud to be a Jew, even though right above me on the list of name changes is a request to change to someone's REAL NAME which is "Christian". And these two users:

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Angry_muslim http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:LatinoMuslim

Whose names are no more or less provocative than yahudidevriyesi.

I would also like to point out that despite whatever Elonka may say, I'm being very cooperative. I have tried to comply with all requests and even when I find them unreasonable (personally I find ANY fuss about my name unreasonable) I have tried to make good with the admins. My original name offended NO one, and until I told Elonka its meaning, she implied non-Latin scripts were an option, simply not a preferred one. She then revoked my right to use any script I want (despite the fact that this same account will have to be used if I want to use a wikipedia in an other language, thus implying the superiority of the Latin script) which I have accepted, only to be told that to call myself a Jew is "provocative". Now I am coming to you to tell you why I think it's unreasonable to say that the word "Jew" is provocative, and furthermore why, for reasons of personal experience, I feel that I'm allowed to provoke people if all I'm doing to "provoke" them is identifying (correctly) my religion and culture. But note that I am coming to you and trying to explain my position. It would be very easy to simply create a new account with a name in Arabic or Cyrillic characters or in Turkish or French that expressed pride in my Jewishness, and you wouldn't know it was the same user, and probably wouldn't care. (Since you wouldn't know what they said) But no, I'm trying to be straight with you, so please, understand where I'm coming from. Or at least give me a decent explanation into why being a Jew is so provocative. I'm sorry if it provokes the west to remind them that we still exist.

Sincerely, the user trying to change his name from, but still known as, סרסלי, קײק פּלז (talk) 03:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for this. I am fully aware that I can be wrong - I often am. I'll consult my fellow Crats and see what they think. --Dweller (talk) 11:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to bother you, but Elonka is complaining that I'm still editing in spite of my username being unchanged. Should I go back to user:rename and reapply as yahudidevriyesi?

סרסלי, קײק פּלז (talk) 05:26, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi there Dweller. User:Hubschrauber729 has made a series of edits shortening reference sections into a scrolling box; something that is highly discouraged for various reasons. Is there any quick way to undo these edits with rollback? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 08:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but have you tried discussing it with the editor first? --Dweller (talk) 11:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Prince Albert

Would you care to revisit? I've made several changes since your original post. DrKiernan (talk) 10:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Hey you, good to hear you're mending, slowly but surely. I see you've extended the olive branch to Tennis expert (who I see is also editing from IP 75.63.7.15 btw) - good for you. I'd love to be part of a drive to get something tennis-y up to FA, it's going to be a long hard slog I fear - a lot of those articles suggested are nowhere near FAC-ready and as for the bloated stats section in each article, fork or delete I suppose. And I'd thought of forking a while ago and then came to the conclusion that the forked article would be a bunch of statistics and would be AFD'd in no time. Anyway, once you get your project up and running, give me a shout 'cos I've been banging on at WP:TENNIS for ages to get a single decent FA...! Take it easy, The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 04:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

BJ

Pulled up stumps again! YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Your FAC Essay

Hi Dweller, the essay is excellent, particularly the way you demystify the process. It's a very helpful addition to advice offered by others. Allow me one criticism: why is there no mention of User:SandyGeorgia? I think she does a lot more work than Raul at FAC these days. Best wishes,Graham. Graham Colm ^Talk 17:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Lists of Test cricketer bios stubs

I've made them at WT:CRIC. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Where's me lunch then? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:37, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bureaucrats

Hi! As a bureaucrat on Wikipedia, I'd very much appreciate it if you would fill in your details on the newly updated Bureaucrats page. Thanks! Majorly ^talk 14:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Just popped "in" for a minute... Sorry to appear daft, I'm knackered and have a splitting headache... where on that page am I supposed to be filling in details? I'm already listed there... <scratches head> I'll attend to it when I'm "in" next. Off to bed for me. --Dweller (talk) 22:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sale, Greater Manchester

Hi, a few months ago you reviewed the above article for FA, stating that it needed a copy edit. Other editors agreed, and the quality of the writing and the flow was a barrier to Sale becoming an FA. Fast forward to today, and I was wondering if you could take a look at the article again and see if this is still the case. There was copy editing done after your comments, and I just ran though it again after a long period away from the article. I hope to take it to FAC in the next few days, but if the prose is still a problem I'll delay until it's ready. It's already been through four reviews and Sandy Georgia must be getting tired of closing it without promotion, so next time I'd like to get it right ;-) Cheers, Nev1 (talk) 03:19, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Sale's at FAC and Ealdgyth has asked what makes somethingjewish.co.uk a reliable source. Since you added it last time the article was at FAC, I was wondering if you could help? Nev1 (talk) 21:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Email reply

Sorry for the wait - googlemail has been iffy this week for me. Regards, Caulde 15:14, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Howdy. I've just started thinking about becoming an admin on Wikipedia, and I have a few months or a year before I can probably qualify. I was wondering if you might have some time to dig through ... whatever it is you dig through... to see if I am on target to becoming an Admin some time next year. Specifically, am I buggering anything up too badly? I work from home, and have a lot of spare time at the computer. I'm also a speed reader and fast typist. I live and breathe references and sources, since I'm a publisher in the real world. The admin tasks that the other admins seem to hate, because it keeps them away from writing articles, is exactly what I would enjoy doing on here. I have to write and edit articles at work, and it would be nice to come home, grab my laptop and shoot vandals all night with harmless electron warnings. Also, I've suggested over a thousand pages for deletion just this month, and somehow only 1 author got mad and vandalized my page. I think I might have a knack. I know you folks are all super busy, but if you do get some time and could give me some tips or pointers, that would be a big favor. Best regards. --OliverTwisted (Talk) 14:44, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

While I'm not really in the market for admin coaching per se, (others are and can do it well) I'm sure I can give you some pointers. Start with an Editor review and drop me another line when it's well under way and I'll fire some questions at you. I'll be happy to nominate you if you look like a good candidate. Please also read what's about to appear at User:Dweller/Tips for aspiring future admins --Dweller (talk) 14:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:USURP

I noticed that you work at WP:USURP. I planned on being renamed to User:Bonez, but I want to change that to User:Truco, which has no edits to it but is an existing account. Do I have to withdraw the old nomination and place a new entry in or can I just replace my old nomination with this one?--SRX 21:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

The thing about USURP is that we like to give people a fair crack of the whip at objecting to losing their account, so I think the fairest thing to do is to cancel the existing request and place a new one. --Dweller (talk) 21:33, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I did just that.--SRX 22:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the prompt attention! Hipocrite (talk) 14:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem. No idea if you remember me, but I remember you! --Dweller (talk) 14:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Username

Is what your concerned about the silliness of my name that leads you to believe that I am an immature user? There isn't any vulgar in my name at all, just special characters and the word 'wow.' But if you insist that I change my name, I will be more than willing to do so. I don't fully understand the process though...which is why I posted this on your talk page. Ô.ô wow ô.ô (talk) 16:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright nevermind, I figured it out. Ô.ô wow ô.ô (talk) 17:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Just one question, will i have my contribs list for my new username? Ô.ô wow ô.ô (talk) 17:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Trophy

I hereby award Dweller this BLP Cleanup Broom Trophy for doing a rather nice job on Mark Butcher, Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Cricket

Happy 1-0, happy new year and where would you like my c-e skills? --Dweller (talk) 12:17, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd like you on the Invincibles! Everywhere. I am starting a separate one for all of them along the line of Keith Miller with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948! It should be good to farm from 1948 Ashes series and rearranging and padding all the other set. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Iwan

The man with no teeth was co-caretaker manager for one match in 2004. John Gorman had taken over as caretaker after Andy Hessenthaler left, but then he himself quit to take over as manager of Wycombe, leaving Scally with no option but to ask a committee comprising player-coach Roberts, captain Paul Smith, and youth team manager Darren Hare to take charge for the next match. You learn something new everyday :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Added it in, although you might want to re-arrange the chronology of it a bit...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems a tad unlikely to say the least :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Usurpations

After performing a usurpation, do you mind deleting the talkpage of the name that was usurped, and moving the user who requested usurpation's talkpage there. User:Fluteflute posted user talk:Fluteflute on WP:RFD, and I've tagged his page for CSD. Cheers and happy editing,--Ashbey_{Happy Holidays} Ӝ 15:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I'm going to post to BN about this. --Dweller (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - that was helpful. --Dweller (talk) 10:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas, Dweller. Have a great day tomorrow and have a wonderful New Year. I want to see you bright and early back on-Wiki; there's no such thing as a holiday for Wikipedians ;-) Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 15:47, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. I just wanted to drop a note wishing you a Merry Christmas, and improved health going forward. And look, two months and I've still got the mop :} Best regards. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 19:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

• a fine Xmas message for all of us to be mindful of.... hehehe. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; at some point, our paths have crossed and I've found your comments amusing, helpful or thought-provoking—I'll let you guess which!

Wishing you and yours a joyous holiday season, and happiness, health and hopefulness in 2009. I trust you'll enjoy this little token, a favourite performance of Baby, it's Cold Outside, for your holiday amusement.
Best, Risker (talk) 02:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Crat stats

Due to the sad departure of WJBscribe, and you've helped with CratStats, are you going to handle that task? — Rlevse • Talk • 23:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Will did that for a long time. I did it once when he was on vacation and he changed it. I guess I made errors. I'd prefer someone else do it. Any ideas? — Rlevse • Talk • 13:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a challenge for somebody who likes to write a bot... in fact, I always assumed it was a bot that did that.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonTake the CSD Survey 14:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Hi mate,

I am the user 124.189.67.107. You contacted me about cricket and some of the edits I have made.

I play for North Sydney Cricket Club and am especially interested in Sydney Grade Cricket and am very knowledgable on this. This produces many Australian and New South Wales players.

Tell me how I can help.

Bradman001

I think this is where you send messages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradman001 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Response

No its not a name from another person. pedrojoão 15:01, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, i forgotten. Its just a name that invented. pedrojoão 15:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! pedrojoão 15:14, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Username

"No edits outside of this page." Does that mean I can't change my username until I've contributed elsewhere to Wikipedia? If I edit, can the username be changed then or are there other objections? Thanks. Am31 (talk) 17:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Invincibles

Why would we do that when the FT is so well-advanced? Surely our efforts are best placed getting each biog and the main articles to FA or GA? --Dweller (talk) 12:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't take a lot actually. I had to expand all the Five Test reports to twice as large (done on my computer) and then after that I cut the relevant parts to the individual tour articles and then pad with scorecards of the other matches. It only takes about 3 hours per individual tour article to get it in place by integrating all the other parts and adding the tour matches. I've got 16 of the individual reports done, only Loxton hasn't been started on. Then all that is needed is the infoboxes for the tour stats and the batting graph for the tour, a lead and a section on playing role, responsibilty in the team. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

All the main articles are in good shape wrt all the meat being there. Loxton needs some more on his politics career. Hassett needs quite a bit though. Australian cricket team in England in 1948 needs work. The others, all the meaty parts are pretty strong. We should lift for the final effort now! YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)