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Hi, I have a question: when you say "spring onion bulbs" do you mean scallions or do you mean the kind that has a long green stem and a white bulbous bottom that looks like a regular white onion? Also, in your experience is toasted onion ever used as a garnish (i.e. onion slices that are cooked until they're dry, crisp, and golden-brown in color)? Badagnani 01:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, are the garnishes you added typical of northern Vietnam, southern Vietnam, the U.S., or all of these? Badagnani 01:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If they're scallions (the thin kind that's the same width all the way from the green part to the white part) it's probably better to say that than "spring onion bulbs." I know what you mean about restaurateurs; sometimes they can be very stubborn about not offering certain options even though they know they're traditional. The onions/vinegar thing reminds me of the Korean side dish of white onions with vinegar, which is served with Jajangmyeon. Badagnani 01:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't think scallion "bulb" is appropriate, because a bulb is usually knobby or round in shape. A scallion is thin and cylindrical straight down to the root end. "Scallions" is fine, if that's what you mean. Badagnani 04:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's clear now, but if the white portion only is used, the way we always phrase that is something like "scallions (white part only)," rather than saying "bulb." Badagnani 04:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see on Google that "hành trần nước béo" is used with phỏ; what does this mean? Badagnani 05:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you should add about that fatty broth in the Phỏ article. One more question: "trần" means "plain" or "naked," so why is that word part of "hành trần"? Badagnani 05:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Viet Museum

Can you check this article? Thanks, Badagnani 05:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nguyễn Tiến Trung

Thanks. it must be better now!The Impeccable (talk) 03:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Again. Thanks for your timeThe Impeccable (talk) 16:45, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There may be something you're able to distribute your help in the talk page The Impeccable (talk) 11:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New article

There are several recently-created articles, Cù Huy Hà Vũ, Nguyễn Minh Thuyết. I would be pleased if you can give yourself some time to take a look at.Impenetrability (talk) 02:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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	Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, especially your contributions to Vietnamese history and helping to keep it balanced, fair, and thorough. Keep up the good work! Nguyen1310 (talk) 23:51, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vua VN

Chào bác Duyet-pho, nhờ bác khởi tạo các bài về một số vị vua Việt Nam còn thiếu sang tiếng Anh. List of Vietnamese monarchs. Hiện các vua Triều/Hàn có bài tiếng Anh hết rồi. 113.168.103.63 (talk) 10:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added you to the WikiProject VN Contributor's (english) list for you.

If you don't want it, please message me to remove. User:Nguyen1310  —Preceding undated comment added 02:34, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mediation for North Vietnam article

Hi Duyet-pho, can you please help to mediate in the edit war that is reigniting in the North Vietnam article please? The user Zeraful keeps imparting pro-communist POV and false POV content in the international relations section of the article, like insisting how South Vietnam was obliged to follow the terms of the 1954 Geneva Conventions but refused to do so, even though VNCH didn't sign the Geneva Agreement, and that user kept refusing to accept that North Vietnam's Viet Cong forces were attempting to invade the South (which is the main reason why the Vietnam War occurred, and that user's definition of invasion actually applies to the Vietcong, but he/she kept denying it). I already developed a final compromise edit for that article to address Zeraful's concerns, but that user kept insisting that the edits go their way and satisfy all of their (mostly POV) demands, which cannot be achieved in a compromise edit, since all parties must make equal amounts of concessions in order to fulfill a satisfactory amount of demands. I would greatly appreciate your help and efforts in resolving this issue. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Nguyen1310 (talk) 20:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's more explanation regarding Geneva. In 1954 a convention was held in Geneva, and an agreement was signed by North VN, P.R. China, France where Vietnam would be partitioned communist North and democratic South temporarily until 1956, where elections will be held nationwide to create a new national government. However, VNCH was only an observer at Geneva, and did not sign the agreement at all, so since VNCH didn't sign it, it was not bound by the agreement's terms and was not obligated to follow the agreement. And regarding the Vietcong, they and the North had the intent to invade and take over the South by force, which is why the Vietnam War occurred and why the North eventually invaded the South and merged it with the North until now.

Below is a copy of the statement i made earlier about the edit war that brewed with Zeraful last week on the same article:

The user Zeraful who kept deleting quite significant amounts of content in the article, regarding that country's diplomatic isolation before the 1970s, and kept changing the words used in the article. Somehow, that user didn't want the article to mention that the North was largely isolated and unrecognized by many countries worldwide, esp. by non-communist and democratic nations, and only had foreign relations with other communist and some developing countries. I know for a fact that this is true, as I came from Vietnam myself, and it makes no sense that the North, a communist country, had diplomatic relations with numerous democratic nations before the 1970s. Even China (PRC), a powerful and prominent country, was isolated from the worldwide community because many non-communist countries refused to recognize China because of it's political system, and it only managed to establish relations with countries like the US until around 1972. As well, this whole section about North VN's diplomatic isolationism is long-standing info, it has been on the article for a long time now, even before I was a member of Wikipedia, and I believed that the info was correct, and there's nothing wrong with it as it has been there for a long time without any controversy or dispute, until now with Zeraful. I felt that I cannot accept something false to be true or right, that's why I kept reverting it. And, Zeraful was changing the terminology used in the article, like instead of calling communist countries "communist", which accurately described the political systems of those countries at the time, the user changed it to "Warsaw Pact" countries, which is grossly wrong because the North had relations with other communist countries outside the Pact, like Cuba or N Korea or P.R. China. Zeraful also changed the term "non-communist" and "anti-communist", to "Western", which is again wrong because not only did non-communist Western countries didn't Recognize the North and were only diplomatic with South VN, non-communist Asiatic countries also did the same thing, like S Korea, Japan, ROC Taiwan, Thailand, New Zealand etc. It seems like Zeraful is deleting the whole North VN diplomatic isolation thing, and changing up terminology, primarily out of their own POV and wanted to remove facts that are true but are negative about North VN, and wanted to censor those things out. One of Zeraful's disputes is that the North VN article lacked citations, so I suggested that Zeraful put citation needed templates beside content that didn't have enough sources, instead of just deleting some of the content outright, until enough sources are found, just like what I saw on many articles in Wiki, however, Zeraful kept deleting some of the content. But even through all the disputes I had , I still lead efforts to make compromised changes to the article to address Zeraful's problems with the article, which can be found on my last several edits on the North VN article.

If you need more info to understand the whole situation, go to the North Vietnam article talk page. Thanks.

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Translation request

Hi Duyet-pho, is it possible for you to translate this page to Vietnamese? ●Mehran ^Debate● 06:13, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. thanks for these edits. Would you have time to do a quick proof read on Institute of Hán-Nôm Studies which I created? Particularly in regards to when "Hán-Nôm" means "both Hán texts and Nôm texts" and when it means "mixed Hán-Nôm hybrid texts". Thanks, if you have time. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:33, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just re-checking. Did you find any evidence that Hán-Nôm can ever mean Nôm? Source 6 and 7 in the Hán Nôm Institute article seem to suggest that eg Tale of Kiều is written in "chữ nôm/nôm" not "Hán-Nôm" even though as much as a third of Nôm characters, standing for Sino-Vietnamese vocabulary in any line of text are identical with Hán characters. ? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thank you for your answer. That confirms my understanding that in Vietnamese "Hán" is Hán, "Nôm" is Nôm, and "Hán-Nôm" = 2 systems, not 1 system, Nôm. And you are right, although I can read both Chinese and Vietnamese, text in Nôm is virtually illegible - other than recognising every 3rd character, and recognising that the language under the characters cannot be Chinese.

There is a well-respected Asian script academic on wikipedia as User:BabelStone, I am hoping he will input on this. Thank you again. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi I wonder if I could ask for your help, I created an article on Hoàng Hoa Thám and am looking for references for the name Đề Thám. Is "Đề" here a chữ nôm term? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:14, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Q. D. Hoang Sa

Hi, sorry for the late reply. I have updated the Hoang Sa map with the corrected name, however this Chinese editor complained that the font size was "unfairly small" for Chinese names on the map. Anyways, do you think these may be of any potential use?

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