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We're so glad you're here! —The-thing (Talk) (Stuff I did) 23:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TestingDukak 23:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikis

Are you new with wikis? —The-thing (Talk) (Stuff I did)

Thank you I am pretty new trying to learn around --Dukak 23:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, are you a user on any other wiki? —The-thing (Talk) (Stuff I did) 00:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

test--☪DuKaK☪ (☠Talk) 14:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish names

I think you should know that you're opening a can of worms by adding the Turkish name to the first paragraphs of articles Greek cities. I added them some time ago, and certain users weren't having it - they demanded that the Greek name be at Istanbul under the same pretext. Just thought you should know what to expect ;-) --Tēlex 17:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok,just checked histories, wasn't aware of that there was a dispute going ok i will revert.--Dukak 17:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

No don't. I like them - just don't get upset if certain users (e.g. User:Mywayyy) start reverting leaving rude edit summaries. If we can get away with no one noticing, then fine... --Tēlex 17:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too late - User:Hectorian noticed. --Tēlex 17:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well i won't mind but city name but why did he reverted turkish-speaking muslim thing? Was it also caused flame war?--Dukak 17:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

He probably didn't notice and reverted all edits made by "Dukak". I've re-added it. --Tēlex 18:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, seems better :)--DuKaK 18:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of things for the record: sorry Dukak, but i reverted your edits assuming they both had to do with the name addition. i had not notice that your first edit was different... secondly, i do not object the addition of turkish placename in greek articles... (please, spare me with such nationalistic accusations!). i also noticed your edit in Xanthi the very moment u made it, but i did not revert it, nor am i willing to do so... Greek placenames are also in turkish articles. the reasons i will not let the turkish name in Komotini is to keep a degree of NPOV and same standards... Either in both Istanbul and Komotini or in none... Regards --Hectorian 18:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point, regards--DuKaK (☠Talk) 18:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dukak hi there. Well it seems certain users have a problem with my reverts, but they still dont get it. The reason I wont let a Turkish name on Xanthi article AT THE TOP of the page is NOT nationalistic. It is a matter of being fare. I agree, if there was an article in which a Turkish name should be added thats Xanthi, because of the Muslim Minority. But I dont see the same stance from all those guys who keep accusing me, in the case of the Istanbul article. Istanbul, as you may know is far more significant to Greeks than Xanthi or Komotini is to Turks. So if there is no Greek name AT THE TOP of the Istanbul article I dont think is fare to have the Turkish name AT THE TOP of Xanthi article. Dont you think? Regards. Mywayyy.88.218.35.167 08:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mywayyy is indef-banned and there's no need to heed is opinion. As long as he shows no signs of understanding that there's an issue primarily with his behaviour, not with the right or wrong of his edits content-wise, all his edits will be rolled back on sight.

But I'd still like to keep telling people of the most salomonic of solutions imaginable, which I suggested to Telex the other day. One that would make even Mywayyy happy (perhaps). Not even a compromise but an absolutely fantastic, clean, triple-win solution:

I once said I wanted to have the Turkish names included because many of them are linguistically interesting.
I also said that whether or not to have them in the first sentence is a matter of quantity. If it's just a simple list of one or two alternative names, it goes in the intro. Things that are complex and require explanation should go somewhere else. I think Khoikhoi's opinion was somewhat similar.
So, if anybody wants to get the names out of the intro, let them just go and find something interesting to explain about them. As soon as we have an interesting story to tell about the Turkish name (etymology, historic usage, borrowing into other languages, ...) we have an absolutely convincing pretext for moving it down in the text. No loss of face for anybody, and the encyclopedia wins too. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]