User talk:Duhman0008

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Hello, Duhman0008, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Warning about blanking talk page

Please stop removing warnings from your talk page. The block notice is supposed to remain because you were legitimately blocked, and the other warnings should not be removed. If you continue in this matter, your talk page will be protected so that you cannot edit it and further disciplinary actions will be taken. Thank you. Shadow1 (talk) 21:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. Removing legitimate warnings from your talk page is considered disruption. You will be blocked from editing Wikipedia and your talk page will be protected from editing if you do it again. —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, a person's dignity overwrites any Internet rule. Like someone else stated before, this talk page can be viewed by anyone, so I do not need to have this since the block has been lifted. A warning page should be created and only be accessible by the user himself and administrators. These warnings, bans and blocks are sort of like criminal records, so the general public shouldn't have access to those.

In most civilized countries like Canada and the US, attacking a person's dignity is punishable by the full extent of the law. You claim that personal attacks are against the policies here, but attacking a person's dignity is the worst kind of personal attack there is. By Wikipedia's own policies, I cannot allow this.

Sorry for the trouble this will cause you but I will keep changing this until this is understood or blocked from editing again.
Duhman0008 22:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing talk page warnings

Removing warnings on a talk page is widely considered a bad practice. Wikipedians are currently discussing whether removal of warnings from one's own talk page is vandalism; until consensus is reached, I am following WP:VANDAL, which considers the removal of content from one's own talk page not vandalism.

To Duhman0008: Removing warnings and other content from this page is strongly discouraged, but I will not block you for doing so. I will also not protect this page for that reason (see WP:PP). However, if any user uses this page or another for vandalism or personal attacks, that user may be subject to blocking at my or other admins' discretion.

Should another admin choose to block Duhman0008 for removing warnings, I will respect that decision, but in the meantime, I am not blocking or protecting.

--Ginkgo100 ^{talk · e@} 21:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your understanding. Although I now respect your policy on personal attacks, I do intend to use it for my own advantage as well to protect myself.

I also truly believe that a separate and confidential page for warnings should be created. Even if Wikipedia is like a non-profit organization, it still must oblige by the law. We all know that it is possible, especially in the Unite States, to sue and win for something like attacking a person's dignity. I wouldn't want Wikipedia to be shut down for something that is more than preventable.
Duhman0008 22:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just curious but who and where (diff) attacked your dignity? Crazynas^t 22:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The best way to explain this to you would be by comparing with this example. If you get a DUI, it goes into your criminal record. Although what you did was a crime, the police or government has no right to give out this information to the general public. Even if Wikipedia warnings are not as bad as a criminal record, exposing them to the general public is insulting a person's dignity.
Duhman0008 22:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is how the Wikimedia software works. Anyone can see your block log just as anyone can see mine.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikimedia Foundation is a private foundation that has its own rules and regulations, and its projects are international. There are no laws that it really has to abide by, other than those it sets up itself. —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

However, you are free to archive your talk page, but it still must be visible to anyone else. —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:11, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If this logic was true, then MP3s could be distributed on Wikipedia Artist page with no consequences. But that's not the case, the Internet, just like the Radio and Television must obey the law. The law will always overwrite rules.
Duhman0008 22:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COPYVIO.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning.
The next time you vandalize a page, as you did to User talk:Duhman0008, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. ¡Kribbeh!^Speak!\_Contribs 22:21, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please be reminded, that if you do not stop now, this page will be protected from editting and you will be blocked, again. —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now, then. I've created an archive of this talk page; this will keep the warnings out of the general public eye. Everyone involved would probably do best to just walk away, at this point, and get back to editing. Luna Santin 22:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or not. I've protected this page. Please just get back to editing articles. Luna Santin 22:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Really, please, just go about your business. If you really want to reform, I suggest you just do it. I have no plans to stop you from contributing unless I have to, but this talk page is causing too much disruption for me to let this continue. Luna Santin 22:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NLT

You'll have to contact the Wikimedia Foundation about legal pursuits. In the meantime, you should be aware that further legal threats will result in an indefinite block on your account, in accordance with policy. As I've told you previously, please just go on editing; if you're embarassed to have been warned or blocked in the past, you probably should just register a new account. Luna Santin 23:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]