User talk:Dr.a.hartmann

Welcome!

Hello, Dr.a.hartmann and Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking

if shown; this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field with your edits. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Shirt58 (talk) 11:55, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Getting started
A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: Edit a page • Upload and use images • Create your first article Intuitive guide to Wikipedia • Article Creation Wizard
Getting help
Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Help desk: A Wiki Styled page to ask questions on Help directory: A comprehensive list-style help contents page
Policies and guidelines
Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons List of policies • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • List of guidelines Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability

The community
Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists
Writing articles
Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Simplified manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Peer review • Featured content
Miscellaneous
User pages • Talk pages Awards a registered contributor can achieve and award Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

RE: SPR, Society for Psychotherapy Research

Hello Armin. I'm sorry your first run-in with the administration here has been for negative reasons. I'm afraid we take copyright incredibly seriously here, and even if something is "authorised", we cannot include it if it is published elsewhere first. There is no leeway with this, unfortunately. You are, of course, free to use our article creation wizard or simply recreate the article in your own words (as unbiased and as encyclopedic as possible, too) and we will, of course, give it another look. Thank you for your understanding. (PS, to reply, simply click "edit" to the top right of this section, or head over to my talk page and message me there. Thanks!) — Joseph Fox 20:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Joseph, I understand that Wikipedia cannot allow violations of copyrights. Yet, I simply cannot see how th e article would have violated someones rights. Please tell me, where in this article you see a copyright infringement! regards Armin Dr.a.hartmann (talk) 09:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Armin, I'm an administrator here on Wikipedia and also by coincidence a former member of SPR! There were indeed some (actually quite minor) copyright problems in the article but to be honest they could have been deleted and the rest of the article left while a re-write was done. However we are where we are and I've restored the article (minus the 2 small copyright issues) to my user space at this page. Follow that link and you'll see the article draft - do feel free to edit it in any way you wish.

The problems were two-fold; the list of objectives was a direct paste from the SPR website, and the material about the Journal was a direct paste from the Taylor and Francis website. Even though I'm completely happy that SPR and T&F would be perfectly happy with this copy-paste, it does violate Wikipedia policy I'm afraid. Web based material can only be copy-pasted like this if there is either a very specific licensing statement on the original website, or via a rather bureuacratic permission-giving system by an authorised representative of the website owner. We could go down either route but frankly the easiest option is to simply reword those two sections and then republish. Ive noted in my userspace draft which sections need rewording - would you be able to do this Armin?

Once the article is back in a form you'd be happy with, I will then republish it to main article space. I'm copying this information to Chris, Bob etc and others who wrote in support of the article; getting them to register as editors and message Fox in support of the article actually doesn't help as it looks like special pleading. I don't think there's any real harm done in this case, but if you have further problems with Wikipedia do please come to me direct rather than feeling the need to orchestrate others who are clearly identifiable as single-purpose accounts. (Of course if any/all of you guys want to contribute as editors that would be great! I've edited the article on Cognitive analytic therapy but there's a lot of work to be done on that and other psychotherapy related articles!)

I think to keep all the discussion in one place, it might be best if you reply to use the talk page for the new article. I will see if you reply here, but others may not. Hope this is helpful and I trust we can get the article up again soon. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 12:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Page now moved back to main article space at Society for Psychotherapy Research. I added a couple of wikilinks and made one or two tiny changes - you can see them by hitting the 'History' tab on the page itself. The rewrites looked fine and should not cause any problems now. I'll keep the page on my watchlist but if there's any further help you need Armin on this or any other page, please let me know. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 12:15, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your quick and constructive help!!! Dr.a.hartmann (talk) 12:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About discussion at "Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents" of speedy deletion of Society for Psychotherapy Research

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. This is about the "speedy deletion" of Society for Psychotherapy Research as unambiguous copyright infringement--Shirt58 (talk) 10:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]