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Hello, I see you've been trying to get the new (and currently unreviewed article) Amy Singer linked to by other articles. FYI, I reverted one of them, because the material you added was not in the source (as far as I could tell). That means it was not verifiable, in other words. To put it another way, it didn't have text-source integrity. Let me know if you have any questions! Also, here is our general notability guideline. I was thinking it's possible Singer might not qualify. Again, welcome, and if you have any questions you can ask directly below in this section and I will reply. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 17:29, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest with you, I am a new "wikipedian". I know Amy Singer personally and she asked me to make the edits, links to other pages and add her name to other pages. I am not sure what you mean by Integrity or verifiable. I tried rating her page to make it permant, but apparently that did not work either. I am reading the http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG#General_notability_guideline page but I am still confused. Please help! Thanks. DianaD286

Thanks for the message. I'm here to help. And thanks for your honesty. Verifiability is an easy concept, sorry I didn't explain it well! It just means that when we add material, there needs to be a source that says what we say. It looked like you added a detail that a news source didn't mention. So I couldn't verify that the source actually said that.

Do you have any specific questions about our general notability guideline (GNG)? Feel free to ask. In my opinion, it is likely that people around here may decide to delete her page because it doesn't meet the guideline. Thanks for declaring your conflict of interest. Take a look at that guideline too. If you want her page to become permanent, we need independent sources, like newspaper sources that discuss Singer instead of just mentioning her. Do you think any of the sources at her article apply? I haven't given it a thorough look. And you can sign your talk page (this is a talk page) posts with four tildes like this: ~~~~ to get a signature like this: Jesanj (talk) 18:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oook...so you need me to cite each reference? In the Casey Anthony example, would something like this suffice to prove she was the trial consultant on the case? http://lawyersusaonline.com/blog/2011/07/05/on-murder-and-social-media-casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-jury-consultant-speaks/

I can get you links to other similar articles, including TV news coverage and interviews. What part of the GNG does her page not meet? Dianad286 (talk) 18:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep! That looks like a good source for that statement. Thanks for finding it. Typically yes, I only add things if I have a source to back them up; the burden is on the person who adds the material, to show that it belongs. If Singer is notable (important enough to deserve an article) then the guideline doesn't apply to specific sections. In my opinion, there are promotional and peakcock words in the article that need to be toned down. It makes the subject look like they're "reaching" for notability. But, I did a search and Singer may be notable, so perhaps no worries. Is this article about her?

Singer is the director of the Victim-Witness Assistance Program in the Middlesex District Attorney's office. It is her job to guide those who have been the victim of a crime, or who have witnessed a crime, through the baffling, intimidating, often infuriating labyrinth of the criminal justice system. In the course of a working day, she may use an array of anatomically explicit dolls she keeps under her desk to help a child explain an encounter with sexual abuse. She may call an employer to arrange a day off for a witness to a robbery. She may spend hours trying to bolster the courage of a woman who is too terrified to press charges against the husband or boyfriend who beats her. Singer, who is 30, is one of a relatively new breed of professionals incriminal justice..." --- CENTERPIECE; AMY SINGER'S BEWILDERED CLIENTS: Boston Globe [Boston, Mass] 23 Jan 1982: 1.

If so then just from that article and her recent work she's notable in my opinion. Let me know if you have any other questions. Jesanj (talk) 19:12, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]