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Your submission at Articles for creation: Antarctic Film Festival (September 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Antarctic Film Festival and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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KylieTastic (talk) 11:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, DemirWikiTR34! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! KylieTastic (talk) 11:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kylie, I thank you for your kind comments. In my entry, I added references and citations about the Antarctic Film Festival. It is not an usual film festival but it is a film festival and only festival in Antarctica. I think that this festival should be considered important. Its organization way (among research stations' members) is just a criteria like specific criterias in each film festival. It is not known widely but just let me metion two news about it :

https://www.antarctica.gov.au/news/2018/antarctic-48-hour-film-festival/

https://www.themandarin.com.au/137459-from-science-to-film-festivals-life-as-a-public-servant-in-antarctica/

If you review my reply, I will be very pleased. Thank you. DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 12:05, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DemirWikiTR34, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You submission has two primary sources (their own website), and one other source just about the research stations, not about the film festival. If you use the two sources above that is a step in the right direction, but the second one is just a couple of sentences, so if you can find other independent sources with some significant coverage. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your promt reply. I'll do my best. Best regards DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 13:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I tried to prepare a better text with more resources as much as I have found. I learnt also that there is a similar film festival, the Arctic Film Festival (for the North Pole) which has already mentioned as an entry in Wikipedia. I followed the same templates of the entry, the Arctic Film Festival as I was preparing my entry. Thank you in advance for your kind effort and your advises. DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 14:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Antarctic Film Festival (September 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Primary sources do not establish notability per WP:GNG.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Antarctic Film Festival and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I understand that the primary sources cannot be qulified but I also added another sources which mention the film festival very explicitly. Even the Irish Film and Television Network's webpage stated the festival in their list. (See the link below).

Additionally, the festival is very similar to the Arctic Film Festival which has an entry in Wikipedia. Antarctic Film Festival is less known because it is in the South Pole and has not been as popular as the Arctic Fİlm Festival.

My links are mentioned below :

http://www.iftn.ie/markets_festivals/intlfestivalsa-z/

http://www.waponline.it/winter-international-film-festival-of-antarctic/

https://www.themandarin.com.au/137459-from-science-to-film-festivals-life-as-a-public-servant-in-antarctica/

https://ccc.govt.nz/news-and-events/whats-on/event/days-of-ice-antarctic-film-festival

If you reconsider your decision, I will be very pleased. DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 15:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DemirWikiTR34 it could be that @DoubleGrazing would not see this as not everyone watches pages or subscribes to sections. By mentioning/linking someone name as I did there notifies most users (a few turn it off) - see Help:Notifications. Also some may edit/review then go to offline, go to work/sleep/have fun/go on holiday etc. so around here you can't expect quick responses from an individual. I believe DoubleGrazing is in a timezone where this is very late or night. As they said "Primary sources do not establish notability" and not all are primary it could also be they missed the new sources (as I missed them at first), as they were not in <ref>...</ref> tags so did not appear in the reference section (see Help:Referencing for beginners). I have tidied up the references, but I have not re-reviewed as I'm just home and need food. Also as I linked after the first decline we encourage new editors to use the Wikipedia:Teahouse as then you can get input from lots of experienced editors and admins rather than hoping an individual is about and see your question. Anyway hope that helped. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all these valuable efforts for my entry. I really appreciate it and sorry for bothering you. DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 17:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, no bother, we like to help and encourage new editors. Doing a new article is considered by many to be the hardest way to start, as there are so many Policies and guidelines. Anyone making a good faith edits is no bother and we all started the same :) KylieTastic (talk) 17:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I feel so ashamed for taking up so much of your time today, but I truly appreciate your efforts. You are just GREAT and THANK YOU! I’m not usually this stubborn, but I really wanted to emphasize how all the people—researchers, plumbers, firefighters, and others—at the South Pole have created something incredibly valuable. I just wanted to highlight their work in my entry for readers to appreciate. Cheers. DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 17:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, DemirWikiTR34. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 06:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You said "we" when discussing this festival at the Teahouse, which suggests you're associated with it, please clarify. 331dot (talk) 06:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment made me really smile :) I even don't where I mentioned "we". I have no affiliation with any brand, activity or a company. I wish I could have a connection wtih the Antarctic Film Festival which I admire as a guy who really appreciate artworks. Yes I must also admit that I am very enthusiastic person who spends energy and time if I believe something right. All my efforts for the festival has been done for this aim. I even wrote a message to a head of reasearcher who I just found through web just to ask more materials. I did it because of my willing to realize Wikipedia rules. You had asked more reliable information if this article will be published in Wikipedia. I think that must be considered as a good acts for enriching the content of Wikipedia. If I had no respect for rules set, I wouldn't do that!

I am a quite independent eye and never like such hidden promotion relations. But I have to confess that your doubt also made me a bit upset. Your questioning came to me too skeptical to be necessary. When I wrote your message I clicked Ctrl+F keys in order to find where I had said that "we". My MA thesis was on the Authoritarian Personality, mostly a study on fascism, nazism and social control ways by using media and "we" is one of the elements which was strongly embraced by these ill ideologies.

When I used that "we", I wanted to mean "Wikipedia writers". But it is obvious that it is too early for me to be seen one of them. I have huge respect to be very cautious about the rules but let me also suggest that there is a thin line between to be "cautious" and "unkind". For this one, I will consider your question in the side of "cautious". Thank you! DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 10:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. "We" is often used by editors sharing access to an account, or representing a business/organization. If you're not, there is no issue. 331dot (talk) 15:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not representing anyone, any brand, any organization, any business! Thank you! DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 15:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citing sources

It's good that you include your source with many of your edits. However, those URLs must be placed inside <ref> </ref> tags. Please do so in the future. Hope that helps! Schazjmd (talk) 15:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Schazjmd but I really don't know how I do it because I use visual editor and how to manage such coding pharse. Unfortunately, my sources couldn't be found enough. DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 15:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Visual Editor, at the end of the text that you've added, click Cite on the top toolbar. Enter the URL in the pop-up box, and then click Create. The pop-up will change to Add a citation, and all you have to do then is click Insert. Schazjmd (talk) 15:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for this tip. I will use it. Regards, DemirWikiTR34 (talk) 19:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]