User talk:Deestinyy

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Surgical Body Modification

The article Surgical Body Modification has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Copy of User:Deestinyy/sandbox without formatting

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Surgical Body Modification moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Surgical Body Modification, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please follow the prompts on the Articles for Creation template atop the page. ... discospinster _talk 20:08, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Article

Hi, I saw that the page was nominated for deletion. I do have some notes for you:

• The first note is that offhand I'd recommend adding this to the subsection for surgical body modification in the main body mod article. This is short enough that it could be in the main article, which needs to be fleshed out.

• Be very careful with sources. Wikipedia is not considered to be a reliable source, so you shouldn't be using it as a source at all. You also have some sources that don't actually show up - it only comes up with a sign-in page, so we can't tell what the source is supposed to be.

You also use studies as sources. Studies should generally be avoided unless they're accompanied with a secondary source that reviews the study or comments upon the specific claim that is being stated. The reason for this is that studies are primary sources for any of the claims and research conducted by their authors. The publishers don't provide any commentary or in-depth verification, as they only check to ensure that the study doesn't have any glaring errors that would invalidate it immediately. Study findings also tend to be only true for the specific people or subjects that were studied. For example, a person in one area may respond differently than one in an area located on the other side of the country or in another country entirely. Socioeconomic factors (be they for the person or a family member) also play a large role, among other things that can impact a response. As such, it's definitely important to find a secondary source, as they can provide this context, verification, and commentary. Aside from that, there's also the issue of why a specific study should be highlighted over another. For example, someone could ask why one study was chosen as opposed to something that studied a similar topic or had different results.

This is all especially important since body modification is something that can be seen as health related depending on how and what you're writing, so it's very important that you be very careful about what sourcing you use. The health topics module goes over this, but you can also find information on this at this link.

• Be extremely careful with claims as well. Everything must be backed up with a reliable source that explicitly states the claim. For example, the claim that Kylie Jenner helped create the desire for fuller lips should be sourced, as someone could argue that people desired fuller lips even before then.

• You also need to make sure that you're not writing in a casual tone. Avoid using wording like "we" and "you", since you should avoid using second person pronouns. You also want to avoid using any point of view or subjective phrases as well, or any phrases that could be seen as too casual. For example, the term luscious is something that is a bit casual and implies that fuller lips are better than non-fuller lips, so it's better to just call them fuller lips. Even if it's something that seems like it would be a fairly widely held opinion, you will definitely need sourcing to back this up.

I hope that this helps! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:10, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Surgical Body Modification concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Surgical Body Modification, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Surgical Body Modification

Hello, Deestinyy. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Surgical Body Modification".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! HasteurBot (talk) 10:01, 6 December 2019 (UTC)