User talk:Davidllada

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Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

A discussion concerning your account has been started by another editor at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#FIDE. You are invited to participate. SamHolt6 (talk) 03:26, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FIDE

Thanks for the prompt response!

The question of FIDE's "correct name" is not an easy one. Generally, Wikipedia must adhere to the conventions used in our sources, which in chess matters are things like chess websites (chess.com, chessbase.com), magazines, and books. If an organization wants to do some "rebranding", sometimes they must wait in frustration while the rest of the world, including Wikipedia, catches up. A similar thing has happened at the U.S. Chess Federation, which now wants people to call it "US Chess", but Wikipedia and other places are still using "USCF" to a large degree.

When I get a chance (I am kind of busy today, etc.), I will reread the article to see if we can't make more use of the name you have designated, and particularly to talk about the designation itself.

I am not an expert on how to navigate Wikipedia's rules for handling Conflict of Interest, but I was generally happy with your edits to FIDE. This article is not in good shape. Several years ago I was able to greatly improve the article about the U.S. Chess Federation, which was then about as ungainly as the FIDE article is now, but I do not feel familiar enough with the FIDE "culture" to make the hard decisions about what should appear in the article and what should not.

In general, due to your COI, there may be situations in which you have an idea for an edit, but it might be considered "controversial". In some cases it might be most expedient to describe the edit on the article's talk page, rather than (or before) doing it yourself. I am happy to note that there are several people who are actively editing chess-related articles and would soon see your request and act on it or respond to it. (Not all topics are as well covered as chess in this respect.) Bruce leverett (talk) 14:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruce leverett:

It is the first time I exchange messages over here and I am not sure if I am doing it right. I sent you a request on Linkedin just in case...

I just wanted to thank you for your kindness, and for the time you put into editing chess content here in Wikipedia. Plus, I agree with most of the corrections you made. In particular, a couple of them make the text better.

There is one point that is complex: Chess was indeed the first sport to crown a world champion, followed by cycling just a few days later. But chess, as a sport (1986); and not FIDE (1948).

As for the name of the organization: the frustration you mention is indeed very common, but in this particular case it should be unnecessary. We are not exactly "rebranding": International Chess Federation was the most commonly used English translation. I am aware that "World Chess Federation" was also widely used, especially in the US. What the Presidential Board decided was (following my advice) to stick to one of the two translations as official. But in any case, the one that has fallen in disuse is "Fédération Internationale des Échecs". So it doesn't make me too happy that this one is the first to appear in the article. It is neither widely used nor official anymore. So I would kindly ask you to revert this edit.

Of course, if there is any topic that I think should be edited, but it is even slightly controversial, I will suggest somebody reliable like you to consider it :-) As you can see, I tried to keep my contributions as factual and neutral as possible, changing some verbal tenses and adding some a few up to date figures and facts.

Thank you again for your work! and please, reach me any time at david.llada@fide.com.

If you could furnish a link to some record of the Q2 Presidential Board meeting in which the name was ratified, I would link to it in editing the article. I suppose I could probably find it by diligent search of the FIDE website, but I'll be lazy and ask you for it instead. If you look at footnote 1 in the article United States Chess Federation, you'll see the general idea of what I am planning, although I do not plan to use the word "rebranding", unless it is used in the record of the Board meeting. Bruce leverett (talk) 03:08, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the significance of your comment on my talk page. The only edit I have made to FIDE is to disambiguate Grandmaster to Grandmaster (chess) and have not been involved in any naming disputes.— Rod ^talk 13:30, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]