User talk:DavidKwagOB

Welcome![edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. reddogsix (talk) 01:40, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. bonadea contributions talk 06:20, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your article[edit]

You said, "there is a great need for a central source of information that incorporates all of Oliver Brown's history, cuisine, locations, and more.". Maybe that's true. But if you want to write in a promotional style, you will have to find somewhere else to do it. Wikipedia does not allow advertising or promotion, and your article looked to come straight from a PR company. That is not acceptable in an encyclopaedia where everything is expected to be neutral. No 'passion'... Peridon (talk) 09:21, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would advise you to lose "an extensive introduction to a delicious dessert destination" fairly quickly from your user page. That is also regarded as promotional talk. Peridon (talk) 09:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Oliver Brown Belgian Chocolate Café, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. bonadea contributions talk 06:26, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to keep tagging your articles, but since you recreate what is essentially the same article despite several deletions, and don't appear to realise that 90% of the text is pure promotion of the company, it would be better if you did not attempt to write about this company at all on Wikipedia. --bonadea contributions talk 07:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Advice[edit]

Read WP:PEACOCK. You are either not getting the hang of 'encyclopaedic' in a big way, or are trying to sneak it through. If you are a PR person, you probably should not be writing an article for an encyclopaedia. In my experience, PR people are usually not capable of losing the promo touch as they spend all day with it. (I overheard a conversation on a train once between two PR people, and in half an hour not one meaningful thing was said - until they agreed to meet for lunch in a couple of days, which at least was factual and 'real life'.) Here, neutrality of wording and tone is the essential. No 'indulgence', no 'passion', no 'unique' (unless referring to a particular fossil or similar non-vendable item that is provably the only one of its kind), no 'supreme enjoyment'. Also, no references that use these or similar terms - they are regarded as advertising too. On the subject of references, please read WP:RS. References should not be full of buzz words and glorification or they'll be regarded as spam, and also should not be directory entries such as yelp and others like that. A word of warning - too many failed attempts can lead to 'protection' of a title. Articles that are being vandalised can be protected from editing by certain classes of editor, and certain repeatedly created titles can be protected from creation by anyone except admins. You've had four goes, so far. That is around the usual limit. If you try again, do it in user space (at User:DavidKwagOB/DRAFT for instance) and put an appeal at the top stating that you are having trouble and would welcome help from patrollers rather than tagging. In user space, the patrollers can tag for copyvio, hoax, spam and attack. If they know you're trying to get away from being spammy, they may well be helpful. If not, learn from the experience and try again. When you've got something that isn't being tagged or torn to shreds, let me know. Wikipedia is open to (almost) anyone to edit, but no-one says it's easy. Peridon (talk) 09:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]