User talk:DaveMac17

December 2024

Hello, I'm Eyer. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Chertsey, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 23:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added the Lord Chertsey post, because I am Lord Chertsey and received the title this year. Why are you removing the content? DaveMac17 (talk) 23:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for confirming your conflict of interest. Please review those guidelines, which include that you should not edit any page which relates to you in such a manner. —C.Fred (talk) 20:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why is adding something FACTUAL to a Wikipedia page so bothersome to you? I am adding a truthful edit because I feel most people reading this would find it of interest. DaveMac17 (talk) 23:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chertsey.

Are you the person who is constantly removing my edit? If so, why? DaveMac17 (talk) 23:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, DaveMac17. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Chertsey, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template), including links or details of reliable sources that support your suggestions;
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 21:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am not promoting anything, Eyer, I am just adding a fact that I believe most people who read about Chertsey would find pertinent and interesting.

Also, since I am new to this, who do I appeal to at Wikipedia to take this matter further? DaveMac17 (talk) 23:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are adding a fact which is not backed up with a reliable source that readers and other editors can verify the claim with. Further, you should not be writing about yourself in any Wikipedia article. —C.Fred (talk) 02:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So how does this information get added to Wikipedia? Someone in the know has to put it in. DaveMac17 (talk) 02:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. Somebody does have to find the secondary sources to support the claim. —C.Fred (talk) 03:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How is stating a fact not pertinent? Self-styled, unpaid editors should concern themselves with facts and not think of themselves as judge, jury and executioner. Too much time on your hands is a bad thing. DaveMac17 (talk) 14:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not all facts are pertinent.

Not all self-styled lords are actually lords, e.g. Lord Kitchener. Axad12 (talk) 15:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm intrigued by the suggestion above that the material relates to a fact that I believe most people who read about Chertsey would find pertinent and interesting.

Personally I think the material is a matter of the most extreme irrelevance to an encyclopaedia.

At the end of the day, most material is added to Wikipedia because a non-conflicted individual felt the info was appropriate for inclusion. Finding one such person in the entire world is a very low bar, but not one that this particular piece of information seems able to attain. This is presumably because the title changed hands in a commercial transaction not covered by reliable second or third hand sources.

In that regard it is a bit like trying to add info to the article about a model of car, saying that a non-notable individual purchased that type of car. Basically, why would anyone be even vaguely interested? Axad12 (talk) 12:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am not self-styled! DaveMac17 (talk) 15:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes you are. Axad12 (talk) 15:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, in fairness to the self-styled Lord Kitchener (mentioned above) he was the holder of one genuine honor, namely the Hummingbird Medal which is awarded for loyal and devoted service beneficial to the state [of Trinidad & Tobago] in any field, or acts of conspicuous gallantry or other outstanding humane action.

He was also a successful recording artist with hits to his name including 1978's "Sugar Bum Bum". Axad12 (talk) 16:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have a very large chip on your shoulder, Abdul. I detect a poor man with little going for him. Get a life! DaveMac17 (talk) 16:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Resorting to racist slurs, eh? Axad12 (talk) 16:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Typo. My apologies. Not a racist bone in my body. DaveMac17 (talk) 17:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain the typo. As you are no doubt well aware, it is a well known tactic of racists to pretend that their attacks were inadvertent typos. Axad12 (talk) 18:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do think, however, that you are envious of a successful person, who gives (anonymously) many thousands away annually to charities can have a title while you are in a basement in your parent's house. Who knows, one day soon, you may be a recipient of my largesse. DaveMac17 (talk) 17:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DaveMac17: Your posts are coming dangerously close to harassment of another editor. This is unacceptable and a [yet another] reason that your account may be blocked. I encourage you to engage only in objective conversation about the conflict-of-interest issue at hand. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 17:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 2025

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Chertsey. You absolutely need to provide a verifiable and reliable source for your title. Favonian (talk) 15:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who are you? DaveMac17 (talk) 15:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who are you, anyway? DaveMac17 (talk) 15:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Favonian is an administrator and thus has the ability to block you. That's all you need to know. Axad12 (talk) 15:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Self-styled? DaveMac17 (talk) 15:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, an actual administrator (not a bought title). Axad12 (talk) 15:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

His posts about Kitchener were inflammatory. Have a word with him. DaveMac17 (talk) 17:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So, you believe that mentioning another self-styled lord is justification for you (in the thread above) to make a blatant racist attack, then pathetically pretend that it was a typo (how?) and then follow that up with various other completely unsubstantiated personal attacks?

To be clear, I do a lot of volunteer work on Wikipedia preventing conflict of interest editing. I have nothing personal against you, I simply oppose any user who (like you) continually attempts to introduce unverified material about themselves where they have a conflict of interest.

(Copying in user:Eyer.) Axad12 (talk) 18:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, the typo was due to predictive text.Futhermore, unless an entry is a lie (mine wasn't!) I'm not sure that a self-styled "editor" should be able to change entries on a whim, acting, as I said, as judge, jury and executioner. Anyway, I'm done discussing this with you. I don't know the hierarchy of Wikipedia, but would like to have an actual boss contact me. DaveMac17 (talk) 18:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest, young man, you stop calling me a racist... DaveMac17 (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And I suggest you tell the truth about really owning Chertsey. I just looked it up and apparently you're from America. How exactly can one NOT be born in Britain and still become a lord? DACartman (talk) 23:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop feeding the troll

Can I suggest that everyone steps away from this talk page for a period please? DaveMac17 (talk · contribs) appears to know full well what he is doing. Engaging further with him is pointless and is just raising the temperature. Let's all just keep an eye on the Chertsey page and, should there be any further inappropriate edits, we can revert and request a ban. Wikipedia:Don't eat the troll's food 86.141.148.186 (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Won't be necessary to make this warning anymore ...

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Daniel Case (talk) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Born in Putney, London. Split my time between UK and US these days, very successfully, I might add. DaveMac17 (talk) 23:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, I wish you the best of luck in this dispute. DACartman (talk) 23:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]