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I think it looks excellent, and a distinct improvement on the way this information is currently presented. I would say a Location column is essential. The Wikidata column less so, in my view, but that will be partly because I don’t really understand it! The Notes column is also vital. User:Peter I. Vardy, List Master-General, may have some useful observations. KJP1 (talk) 17:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that per MOS:CONTRAST the background colours on the listing column fail WCAG contrast requirements with the colour Wikipedia uses for links in the default skin. I would recommend omitting background colour entirely, as it doesn't add new information and it's very difficult to make it look good in all the different skins and modes, but if you're set on using it there's some suggested compliant options in MOS:COLORS. Cheers, Joe D (t) 19:22, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KJP1:@Steinsky: Thanks both. I've added coords to the Location column and merged the columns for the notes and Wikidata links. One of my obsessions is finding pictures of listed buildings and including them in Wikidata, hence my reason for including the WD links. Point taken re the listing colours, but I'm using @Peter I. Vardy:'s lists of listing buildings as a model, which also have them (e.g. Listed buildings in Bakewell). Again. I'm not ideologically averse to losing the colours.
I'll carry on working on the table and when it's finished I'll consider (a) adding brief descriptive notes for all entries; (b) removing the Wikidata links (or finding a more discreet way to include them; I couldn't find a more suitable template than {{Q}}); and (c) removing the listing colours. Dave.Dunford (talk) 13:04, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also wondering whether it would be better sorted alphabetically by placename, with the County as the second (sortable) column. Thoughts? Dave.Dunford (talk) 13:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd probably go for "alphabetically by place" then "County". It's a bit more "defining" that way, I think. And I agree that brief summary Notes would be close to essential, particularly as most won't have stand-alone articles. Although I did try with Smisby lock-up! KJP1 (talk) 07:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
p.s. Sure you're aware of it, but this is a very useful resource, Prison History Trust Local lock-ups
@KJP1: Thanks – and yes, I'm aware of PrisonHistory.org and am planning (eventually) to include a citation for all cases. What I'm including has developed as I've worked through the list, and at some point I'll go back and expand the early entries to match the later ones. Dave.Dunford (talk) 12:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]