User talk:Dangelman
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Speedy deletion nomination of Deeeep.io
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A tag has been placed on Deeeep.io, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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Orphaned non-free image File:Deeeepio.png
[edit]Thanks for uploading File:Deeeepio.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Conflict of interest and mainspace
[edit]I see that you have disclosed a conflict of interest, which is appreciated. However, please note that this means you must follow the rules for COI editors, including that, rather than directly writing a mainspace article, you must write a draft (such as at Draft:Deeeep.io), and request review by articles for creation, rather than directly creating the article yourself. Paid editors must refrain from directly editing articles, and must instead have suggestions reviewed by editors without a conflict of interest. In creation of a new article, a draft and AfC review is the way to do so. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:26, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Actually I'm not a paid user. My COI is due to the fact that I'm a moderator of the official game subreddit trying to do something nice for my community. Not sure if I should have disclosed it, you think I should still make a draft first? Dangelman (talk) 06:52, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see, thanks for clearing that up. In cases of COI besides being paid, disclosure and following the COI rules is encouraged rather than required (though in this case, it's a moot point as I've protected the page title due to several inappropriate creations, so it would have to be done first as a draft in that case). However, creating an appropriate new article is very difficult, and I'd certainly encourage any new user to use a draft rather than trying to get it right the first time in mainspace. In this case, you'd need quite a bit cleaned up. As an example, the photo caption for the logo was
Eat fish, become the shark!
. That's not appropriate. Generally, a logo wouldn't need a caption at all, but if it has any, it should simply be informational, such as "The site's logo". Any kind of "talking up" or "call to action" like that is not acceptable. Similarly,It's important to carefully choose the animal you should evolve into...
(never use second person or address the reader), and there were several external links within the article text. In an article about a website, one link is permitted to the site, at the bottom of the article in an "External links" section. Similarly, the article referred to it as a "hit game among YouTubers". According to whom? We can't just editorialize like that in an article. It's very difficult to remain neutral when writing about a subject you're close to or interested in. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:42, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see, thanks for clearing that up. In cases of COI besides being paid, disclosure and following the COI rules is encouraged rather than required (though in this case, it's a moot point as I've protected the page title due to several inappropriate creations, so it would have to be done first as a draft in that case). However, creating an appropriate new article is very difficult, and I'd certainly encourage any new user to use a draft rather than trying to get it right the first time in mainspace. In this case, you'd need quite a bit cleaned up. As an example, the photo caption for the logo was
- Thanks for your reply! By your suggestion I've created Draft:Deeeep.io. Eat fish, become the shark! is the slogan of the game but I see your point. I'll take your advice and fix the points you've brought up by using a more appropriate writing. As you've pointed out, there are three external links to Reddit as reference/source. Should I put them as citations? Dangelman (talk) 16:26, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- You could put them as references if intended as such, but generally, Reddit would not be a reliable source. So maybe best to find a better one. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:09, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply! By your suggestion I've created Draft:Deeeep.io. Eat fish, become the shark! is the slogan of the game but I see your point. I'll take your advice and fix the points you've brought up by using a more appropriate writing. As you've pointed out, there are three external links to Reddit as reference/source. Should I put them as citations? Dangelman (talk) 16:26, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Deeeep.io (January 11)
[edit]Your draft article, Draft:Deeeep.io
[edit]Hello, Dangelman. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Deeeep.io".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 18:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Deeeep.io
[edit]Hello, Dangelman. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Deeeep.io".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 16:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)