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Edit war on The Voice of China (season 4)
[edit]Hi, I hope I can this record straight so that we don't go into an edit war.
Please understand that the page is for the show 中国好声音 (The Voice of China) and only 中国好声音. Any other information from the other shows like 重返好声音 are irrelevant to this article because this is an article for the MAIN SHOW (which is 中国好声音). Some contestants might have been featured on the sister show 重返好声音, but you cannot deny the fact that they DID NOT appear on the MAIN SHOW. If they did not appear on the main show, it means that they did not appear. You don't include information that the show failed to broadcast to this article because it just does not make sense.
And from what I see from your edit summaries, your rationale of including the contestants that were featured on the sister show is because they "still have a chance to participate in the revival round". I don't understand how this can be a strong reason for your edits. Their eligibility to participate in the revival round does not mean that they should be featured in this article because they were not even shown in the show in the first place. And by the way, not all eliminated contestants are eligible for the revival round so your hypothesis is false.
I hope you can understand where I am coming from and refrain from making any disruptive edits to the article. If you would like to have information from the show 重返好声音 to be featured on Wikipedia, i suggest you create a new article page.
Response
[edit]Firstly, 重返好声音 is not a sister show.
Sorry if it is not the sister show then what is it? I suggest you click on the link and look up for the definition of "sister show". Are you saying that 重返好声音 is not a spin-off of the main show (if that's the case then all the more the information should not be included on the main show page lol)? Sister show or not, you cannot deny the fact that 中国好声音 and 重返好声音 are two different shows.
All the artists not selected will be featured there, including those broadcasted on television, where discussions of their performance will be carried out.
WOW. What makes you so sure that ALL THE ARTISTS that were not selected are going to be featured on 重返好声音? Do you know how many people auditioned for the show? They can't possibly feature everybody, both on 中国好声音 and 重返好声音. And this brings me to the next point:-
Just because they are not broadcasted on television, does it mean that they cannot be credited on the wiki page as an artist?
YES OF COURSE. How many times do you want me to say this: THIS IS A PAGE FOR THE MAIN SHOW. Yes, the main show is the one that is being aired on television. We only include information of the artists that appeared on the MAIN SHOW. If they appeared on any other show (be it sister show or not), we don't include them here.
Just because they have been featured on another show and is eligible to participate in the revival round still does not change the fact that they did not appear on the main show. And yes, if you want me to put it in a crude way - it is their luck for not being featured on the main show, and therefore they should not be credited on this page as an artist.
Thank you.
Response II
[edit]Please STOP undoing my edits. I am saying this as I am sick and tired of you undoing my edits.
Sorry I'm sick of your DISRUPTIVE edits as well.
If you actually refer to the Chinese Wiki, the contestants not shown on tv are credited.
So? Am I supposed to follow the Chinese version of the article which to me also included irrelevant information in the article as well? I can also remove the information on the Chinese Wikipedia but I just couldn't be bothered. I'm focused on the English version of the article and I want the article to correctly represent what was shown on the show.
You are just being very unfair for those poor people who are not broadcasted on tv. Can you please put yourself in their shoes and understand how they feel not being broadcasted on television.
I hope you understand that I am just trying to publish the facts, and only the facts. This is not a charity organisation and I do not have to sympathise those who were not featured on the main show.
I have to say that it is not about 重返好声音. But you got everything jumbled up. I just said that their videos can be found on the 重返好声音. They are still artists on 中国好声音. So even though they are not broadcasted on tv, can you be a bit nice just to let this slide? Thank you so much
No sorry I won't let it slide. I would continue to revert your edits till you can justify your edits with a strong reasoning. Please understand that this is not about being nice. This is a Wikipedia page. Everyone is coming here for facts. The fact is that these contestants were not featured on the show, and they should not be credited on this page.
Response III
[edit]Sympathy is a value that most should have. If you are nice enough to contribute what is on the wiki page, you should be good enough to have sympathy. Anyway, let's stop talking about sympathy anymore.
I do sympathise those who were not featured on the main show. BUT that does not mean that I have to do it by crediting them on this article. Like what I've said, this is a Wikipedia article. Not a page to show sympathy to those who were not featured. They were not featured means they were not featured, means no crediting them on this article. Period.
You did not even have much reasoning in the first place, only rebutting everything that I have said, and you expect me to come up with new points. Ok, I'll do whatever you want me do then.
Do you even know why you are coming up with new points? Because you were not able to rebut to my points (that the contestants on the sister show were not featured on the main show and they should be credited on this article page because THEY DID NOT APPEAR ON THE MAIN SHOW). That's why you are coming up new points to convince me that you are right. Apparently I do have a reasoning but you just wouldn't want to admit it.
As I have said earlier, those not broadcasted on television are still considered as contestants are their performances can still be found on the Internet.
Yes they are considered as contestants. Yes their performances can still be found on the Internet. So? They were still not featured on the main show.
And some of them participated in the revival round. Most people will be wondering, what's wrong? How come they can get into the revival round and they have not participated in the first round.
You better get your facts right. Do you know some of the contestants that were featured on the revival round did not even appear on 重返好声音? Like Du Xingying 杜星萤, Zhang Yang 张旸, Xiu Er 修儿, Su Hao 苏浩 and Huang Shengwen 黄圣文. Their first performances were not aired on both the main show and the sister show. So can you tell me where did they come from?
OBVIOUSLY THEY SANG FOR THE FIRST ROUND. Just that it wasn't aired. When their performances wasn't aired it does not mean that they did not participate in the first round (I don't even know why I have to explain this to you because it's a no-brainer.)
So I don't understand why you insist on crediting the contestants from 重返好声音 on this page just because some of them would later return for the revival round and people would wonder where they came from. Then what about those that were not even aired on 重返好声音?
And btw the audiences are not stupid. They obviously knew these contestants have already sang for the first round before they participated in the revival round, just that they were not aired. So they did not "come out of nowhere". And before each of the revival performances, they did a recap of their first performances so your reasoning doesn't even hold true now.
And Wikipedia says there are 150 contestants. Less than half of them are mentioned. What's happening to Wikipedia? Obviously it is not a reliable source of information! Then eventually, no one will visit this page ever again. Is that what you want to happen?
LOL. Yes. There were 150 contestants. And this was mentioned on the show. But did the show air 150 performances? No! Do you think they would have enough time to feature all 150 contestants? They obviously would air the good and interesting ones that are television-worthy. They mentioned "150 contestants" as a matter of fact, to informed the audience that there were 150 performed, but obviously not all were featured.
And this brings me to the next point: There is nothing with Wikipedia, and this page has RELIABLE source of information. So you mean that if I don't include the 150 contestants that sang for the blind auditions, this page is unreliable? Wow? I don't even know who the rest of the 150 contestants are. Do you know who they are? Maybe you should write to Zhejiang Television and ask them for the list because that would make this article really reliable.
Do you even know why I'm reverting your edits? Because you are the one that is INPUTTING UNRELIABLE INFORMATION. You are misleading the readers that the contestants who appeared on 重返好声音 actually appeared on the main show when they did not. I am the one that provides the reliable information, not you.
Next, you can find online about for example, Tay Kewei and Alfred Sim from Singapore are participating in The Voice of China. But they are not in the Wikipedia page. So what is happening? The truth is, Tay Kewei was not selected in Episode 3!
Yes. They participated in The Voice of China. But they were not featured on the main show. So why should they be on this Wikipedia page (I'm repeating this countless times). It's the same as they were not being featured on the show and the audiences went "what happened to them?"
When they show mentioned that 150 has performed and they were not shown, it is clear to the audience that they were eliminated.
And Yes Tay Kewei was not selected in Episode 3, then can you tell me in which episode did Alfred Sim got rejected? (zzzzzzzzzz)
Conclusion
[edit]I am really sick and tired of rebutting your responses they are getting more and more senseless to me. You are just coming up with points that are not even strong to back up your rationale for your edits, just to convince me that they are constructive ones.
From what I've understand, you seem pretty worried that the readers would be confused as to where the contestants from the revival round came from, and they should be credited on this wikipedia page in the earlier episodes to let the readers know that they have sang for the first round and they did not "come out from nowhere". I can't accept this because firstly they did not appear on the main show in the first place, and any one with the right piece of mind would know that those who sang for the revival round sang for the first round and "they did not appear out of nowhere". In fact this piece of information was written under the Episode 5 section and it was also mentioned on the show as well. So I don't get what are you worrying about????
And also, how do you explain the contestants that did not appear on both shows? So they came out of nowhere? Stop contradicting yourself.
I would like to clearly state that after today, I will not be responding to your issues anymore - unless you can come up with strong and pertinent reasonings to your edits because I have been repeating countless times on why I find your edits disruptive and I feel like a broken recorder.
Hope you know where I'm coming from. Thank you.
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