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IABot blocked on JAWiki
Hi there, this is a notification that I have blocked User:InternetArchiveBot on Japanese Wikipedia because Job ID 5930 was run with fewer than 10 seconds per one edit (e.g. 8 edits in 02:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)). The job also had much more edits than what was agreed in the bot flag request. I can unblock it once the issues are resolved. ネイ (talk) 05:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- To add on, the Bot runpages shows jawiki is disabled. Why is the above job still run? ネイ (talk) 10:14, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, the run appears to have been accidental. I’ll speak to GreenC about it.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, regarding bot approval there, the entire process needs to be scratched and done fresh.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, please let me know how the discussion with GreenC goes. Would like to know more about the cause (e.g. is it one off, is it possible to prevent future accidental runs) before making the decision of whether to unblock. If the account is unblocked eventually, please feel free to restart the bot flag approval process. ネイ (talk) 12:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- I was not editing jawiki specifically, but every wiki language that contains a set of Olympics related URLs and jawiki was on the list. I didn't expect the bot to run on a site that was disabled, it probably happened because of my admin bits, I was not aware the bot could do this. It will not happen again. ネイ, I apologize and hope you will consider an unblock! -- GreenC 14:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- GreenC and ネイ, actually it's open to anyone to run. Job runs are generally not affected by the run pages because the job is invoked by the user and is usually believed that the user would have good reason to do so and is following local policy. Run pages are designed to stop fully automated, and continuous, processes like IABot's main process.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Per other discussion created Phab T254017. -- GreenC 14:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Is it possible to remove the ability to run manual jobs in jawiki? Allowing these jobs basically means everyone has access to run the bot, instead of only cyberpower678 (and WMF). Since "everyone" includes LTAs with newly created sockpuppets, even an unblock only could be dangerous. ネイ (talk) 14:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, actually, there are abuse counter measures in place. A new account can't just run a bot job. They need to be established first.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Are there documentations about these measures? (Also, merely requiring autoconfirmed rights might not be sufficient in regards to LTAs) ネイ (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, This may help.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- So it is 10 days after registration plus 10 edits for the submitbotjobs right. Is it possible to remove the submitbotjobs right for the basicuser group (only for jawiki)? In my opinion, allowing only user or above to submit jobs sounds good enough. ネイ (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, no these rights are applied on a global scale. Users can be blocked from submitting jobs though. Administrators can block users on the interface. Blocked users on wiki are also blocked on the interface.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- So it is 10 days after registration plus 10 edits for the submitbotjobs right. Is it possible to remove the submitbotjobs right for the basicuser group (only for jawiki)? In my opinion, allowing only user or above to submit jobs sounds good enough. ネイ (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, This may help.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Are there documentations about these measures? (Also, merely requiring autoconfirmed rights might not be sufficient in regards to LTAs) ネイ (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, actually, there are abuse counter measures in place. A new account can't just run a bot job. They need to be established first.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Is it possible to remove the ability to run manual jobs in jawiki? Allowing these jobs basically means everyone has access to run the bot, instead of only cyberpower678 (and WMF). Since "everyone" includes LTAs with newly created sockpuppets, even an unblock only could be dangerous. ネイ (talk) 14:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Per other discussion created Phab T254017. -- GreenC 14:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- GreenC and ネイ, actually it's open to anyone to run. Job runs are generally not affected by the run pages because the job is invoked by the user and is usually believed that the user would have good reason to do so and is following local policy. Run pages are designed to stop fully automated, and continuous, processes like IABot's main process.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- I was not editing jawiki specifically, but every wiki language that contains a set of Olympics related URLs and jawiki was on the list. I didn't expect the bot to run on a site that was disabled, it probably happened because of my admin bits, I was not aware the bot could do this. It will not happen again. ネイ, I apologize and hope you will consider an unblock! -- GreenC 14:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, that is sufficient information regarding the rights; what about the frequency of edits? Having 8 edits per minute is not allowed even if the bot flag is granted. ネイ (talk) 19:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, That is a technical problem. IABot workers are independent of each other, so they are not aware of what the other is doing on Wikipedia. Rate limits are not possible in IABot, at the moment.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the above information. This is useful. I submitted a Request for Blocking (RFB) at ja:Wikipedia:投稿ブロック依頼/InternetArchiveBot 追認 for the Japanese Wikipedia community to discuss on whether the block should continue. Please feel free to express your opinion there. For this request only, I can do translations between Japanese and English. ネイ (talk) 05:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, I believe that to be an unnecessary escalation for something that appears to be one off. While I said there isn’t any solution at the moment, I never said I was unwilling to implement one. But I just get some inspiration last night, that might work, regarding the rate limits. It’s not an ideal solution, but the user submitted bot jobs queue would be disabled for any wiki requiring a rate limit. I could actually implement that fairly easily. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- With no preventive (not a mere warning message) measures in place, I cannot come to the conclusion that it is one off (this time it is GreenC, next time it could be another user, or an LTA with an account in basicuser group). Also, you never said you are unwilling to implement one, but you also never said you will implement one until after the RFB is raised (when I asked whether manual jobs can be disabled in jawiki at 14:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC), you did not respond to that ask but mentioned something else). This aside, before I report back to the RFB, it would be great if you could confirm on the following.
- Does IABot's main process (the automated process) have rate limits in place? If yes, then I can consider the rate limit issue resolved once the user submitted bot jobs queue is disabled for jawiki.
- The operator names in ja:User:InternetArchiveBot and en:User:InternetArchiveBot are different (the former mentions cyberpower678, while the latter mentions cyberpower678 and kaldari). Which one is the accurate one? This question arises from a concern raised on the RFB, namely that ja:WP:ROLE currently does not allow any exceptions, including bot accounts. I have raised an RFC to allow approved bots with multiple managers as an exception, but would like to confirm whether this affects InternetArchiveBot.
- Thanks. ネイ (talk) 13:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, IABot does not have any rate limits. With that being said the main process is disabled on jawiki and I’m the only one that can enable it. Disabling the queue, would keep the bot from running entirely on jawiki. I’m not trying to avoid answering your questions. I’m perfectly willing to implement a solution, but it needs to work. The reason why I haven’t worked on rate limits though is jawiki is literally the only wiki that rate limits approved bots, and I’ve had to deal with more important issues spanning across multiple wikis. My logic was that as long as the bot is off, no problems will arise in jawiki. Admittedly, I neglected to consider that someone could fire off a job. I can go ahead and disable the queue to prevent further runs going forward. As for the maintainers. It used to be the case that Kaldari had the keys to the bot, but now I’m the only one with access.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the confirmations. I have added these information to the RFB accordingly. Let’s see how the discussion goes. As previously mentioned, please feel free to comment on the RFB. ネイ (talk) 14:17, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, The bot queue is now disabled. IABot will not run at all on jawiki now. I'm the only one that can start it on jawiki now.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the confirmations. I have added these information to the RFB accordingly. Let’s see how the discussion goes. As previously mentioned, please feel free to comment on the RFB. ネイ (talk) 14:17, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, IABot does not have any rate limits. With that being said the main process is disabled on jawiki and I’m the only one that can enable it. Disabling the queue, would keep the bot from running entirely on jawiki. I’m not trying to avoid answering your questions. I’m perfectly willing to implement a solution, but it needs to work. The reason why I haven’t worked on rate limits though is jawiki is literally the only wiki that rate limits approved bots, and I’ve had to deal with more important issues spanning across multiple wikis. My logic was that as long as the bot is off, no problems will arise in jawiki. Admittedly, I neglected to consider that someone could fire off a job. I can go ahead and disable the queue to prevent further runs going forward. As for the maintainers. It used to be the case that Kaldari had the keys to the bot, but now I’m the only one with access.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- With no preventive (not a mere warning message) measures in place, I cannot come to the conclusion that it is one off (this time it is GreenC, next time it could be another user, or an LTA with an account in basicuser group). Also, you never said you are unwilling to implement one, but you also never said you will implement one until after the RFB is raised (when I asked whether manual jobs can be disabled in jawiki at 14:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC), you did not respond to that ask but mentioned something else). This aside, before I report back to the RFB, it would be great if you could confirm on the following.
- ネイ, I believe that to be an unnecessary escalation for something that appears to be one off. While I said there isn’t any solution at the moment, I never said I was unwilling to implement one. But I just get some inspiration last night, that might work, regarding the rate limits. It’s not an ideal solution, but the user submitted bot jobs queue would be disabled for any wiki requiring a rate limit. I could actually implement that fairly easily. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the above information. This is useful. I submitted a Request for Blocking (RFB) at ja:Wikipedia:投稿ブロック依頼/InternetArchiveBot 追認 for the Japanese Wikipedia community to discuss on whether the block should continue. Please feel free to express your opinion there. For this request only, I can do translations between Japanese and English. ネイ (talk) 05:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- ネイ, That is a technical problem. IABot workers are independent of each other, so they are not aware of what the other is doing on Wikipedia. Rate limits are not possible in IABot, at the moment.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Ready to restart on arwiki
@علاء: Sorry for the wait. I believe we should be ready to give IABot another go on arwiki.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello, don't mind and take your time. I reviewed several random edits and it's correct (Thanks 
). But can we change the edit summary due to LTR issue? (if yes, please write the variables and I'll put the new edit summary) --Alaa :)..! 20:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- علاء, any admin can change the bot's running configuration. Here is a direct link to the config. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:43, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- "An error occurred connecting to your account: Curl error:" ? I can "auth" for enwiki version, but arwiki bring this error --Alaa :)..! 20:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- علاء, How odd. I'll give it a try. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- علاء, definitely strange. It happens for me too. I don't know what's going on there, but you can auth into enwiki, or some other wiki, and just switch over to arwiki. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- TRYING --Alaa :)..! 20:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Yup work, Thanks. Hope in future if you can make arwiki interface RTL instead of LTR. Also I didn't found how the edit summary as an option that I can edit --Alaa :)..! 21:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- علاء, That requires significant work. I would need more developers who are skilled with HTML/JS. If you know any willing to help. Please send them my way. I recently Dockerized IABot, so it's super easy to install now. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe @FShbib and Omar Ghrida: can help? --Alaa :)..! 21:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello, per this comment about this bot edit. Why the bot put original link again? (if u search about "https://books.google.com/books?id=vzZ71Eh5QvMC" you'll found 2 links before (1 original + 1 archived), but after IABot edit, it's being 3 (2 original + 1 archived)) --Alaa :)..! 11:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- علاء, hmmm, definitely. It shouldn’t be doing that. Do you mind filing a phabricator ticket on this? —CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:18, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Done on T254096. Should we stop the bot? --Alaa :)..! 11:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- علاء, if it’s happening a lot, then yes. Otherwise I would just revert and observe. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:35, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Done on T254096. Should we stop the bot? --Alaa :)..! 11:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- I stopped it now as there's a lot of edits contain duplicate stuff. --Alaa :)..! 14:38, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2020).
Administrator changes
CaptainEek • Creffett • Cwmhiraeth
Anna Frodesiak • Buckshot06 • Ronhjones • SQL
CheckUser changes
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment asks whether the Unblock Ticket Request System (UTRS) should allowed any unblock request or just private appeals.
- The Wikimedia Foundation announced that they will develop a universal code of conduct for all WMF projects. There is an open local discussion regarding the same.
Arbitration
Archiving with no reason
Hi Cyberpower678,
Your InternetArchiveBot is archiving links with no reason and marking as dead links that are not dead on huwiki. Do something about it, please. Amator linguarum (talk) 06:50, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Amator linguarum, this report is not helpful at all. Thus I cannot act on it. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Preemptive archiving of references on French Wikipedia
Hi Cyberpower678,
I haven't read all the follow up of fr:Discussion Wikipédia:Sondage/Configuration d'InternetArchiveBot, but I just wanted to make sure that InternetArchiveBot is already archiving all references on French Wikipedia. This will make it possible to switch to the Internet Archive as main archive source if/when needed in the future. The RedBurn (ϕ) 10:50, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- The RedBurn, yes it is. Internet Archive is actively crawling all added links to all WMF wikis. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:28, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! Do you mean that only the new links are being crawled or have the existing ones already been crawled? The RedBurn (ϕ) 15:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- The RedBurn, they should all be crawled already. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! Do you mean that only the new links are being crawled or have the existing ones already been crawled? The RedBurn (ϕ) 15:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Has Cyberbot abandoned Wikipedia:Requests for page protection?
Hi CP. It's been more than 20 hours since Cyberbot's most recent activity at RFPP. Old reports are piling up, some of them getting rather pungent. Best regards, Favonian (talk) 15:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Favonian, blame Armbrust. He placed a bots deny-all template on that page. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- That was subtle! Thanks for unplugging. Favonian (talk) 14:59, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn’t thought it would be a problem in nowiki tags. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:06, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your work with InternetArchiveBot
This bot does a great work! Thank you! Shinaimm (talk) 03:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Issue raised at Village Pump
I've just raised an issue regarding InternetArchiveBot at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Stop_InternetArchiveBot_from_linking_books. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:54, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Another unblock issue
Wellring requested unblock at 11:51, 14 June 2020 (UTC) and it has failed to put it up in almost a day and a half. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 21:26, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- DeltaQuad, I see Wellring in the table.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- It just got added...let me double check what happened on the user talk. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 21:57, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ya, nothing on the page indicates why it wasn't there before then [1]. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 21:58, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot bug in Russian Wikipedia
Please stop deleting and overwriting Template:Webarchive in Russian Wikipedia. Thanks. Michael Romanov (talk) 22:52, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, this is not a bug. This is intentional behavior. Webarchive is not meant to be a standalone template. It should be appended to bare URL references. So IABot converts them to full citations. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:13, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- The problem is that Template:Webarchive is not standing alone, it immediately follows the link embedded in another template, e.g.: [2]. I would suggest to change the behaviour of InternetArchiveBot in cases when a reference link is embedded in one template, while Template:Webarchive stands next to that template. Hope for your understanding of the problem. Kindest regards, Michael Romanov (talk) 18:52, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, ah. There is indeed a link there. It's so far away, I didn't immediately recognize that it was there. Sorry about that. With that being said, it might be worthwhile to maybe try to reduce the amount of content between the link and the template. I'll investigate, but you can use
{{cbignore}}in the meantime to keep the bot off. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:55, 15 June 2020 (UTC)- If we look at citation templates, most of them require a detailed description through entering proper info in multiple fields of each template. I think InternetArchiveBot creates this problem every time it finds a citation template with embedded link, undermining the whole concept of using these templates in Wikipedia. This is a serious issue to be resolved, I would guess. Thank you for your attention and understanding. Regards, Michael Romanov (talk) 20:44, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. The example you provided has no citation template in it. IABot converted what it thought was a standalone Webarchive template into a full citation template. Should it have done that? No, but there is no cite template. Just a bare URL. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- I am sorry but there is template {{Книга}}, one of the standard citation templates. Michael Romanov (talk) 21:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, I just noticed that you linked to me a second example. My bad again. I have looked at the second example, and as I can tell, this is not a bug. It doesn't look like that template supports any archive URL parameters, and so IABot cannot simply add them. Therefore, it, instead, attaches a webarchive template to the книга template. But it could be Google Translate completely fucked up translating Russian so I may have missed it in the docs which parameters are for archive URLs. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:12, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, oh no, I see what you are showing me. IABot actually removed the webarchive template. Yea. That's bad. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- See!
This is what I'm talking about. Thank you for noticing this bug. Michael Romanov (talk) 21:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- See!
- I am sorry but there is template {{Книга}}, one of the standard citation templates. Michael Romanov (talk) 21:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. The example you provided has no citation template in it. IABot converted what it thought was a standalone Webarchive template into a full citation template. Should it have done that? No, but there is no cite template. Just a bare URL. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- If we look at citation templates, most of them require a detailed description through entering proper info in multiple fields of each template. I think InternetArchiveBot creates this problem every time it finds a citation template with embedded link, undermining the whole concept of using these templates in Wikipedia. This is a serious issue to be resolved, I would guess. Thank you for your attention and understanding. Regards, Michael Romanov (talk) 20:44, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, ah. There is indeed a link there. It's so far away, I didn't immediately recognize that it was there. Sorry about that. With that being said, it might be worthwhile to maybe try to reduce the amount of content between the link and the template. I'll investigate, but you can use
- The problem is that Template:Webarchive is not standing alone, it immediately follows the link embedded in another template, e.g.: [2]. I would suggest to change the behaviour of InternetArchiveBot in cases when a reference link is embedded in one template, while Template:Webarchive stands next to that template. Hope for your understanding of the problem. Kindest regards, Michael Romanov (talk) 18:52, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, how often does this happen? —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:24, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- I would say that this happens every day. This is what I discovered this morning: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. In other words, every time the bot faces an article with template {{Книга}}, it deletes the adjacent Template:Webarchive and adds Template:Cite web, although this is obviously not necessary to do. You may imagine how annoying this could be. Michael Romanov (talk) 06:04, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, I would say let's shut it down until I can get this figured out. I'll do that in a few minutes. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:23, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- I would say that this happens every day. This is what I discovered this morning: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. In other words, every time the bot faces an article with template {{Книга}}, it deletes the adjacent Template:Webarchive and adds Template:Cite web, although this is obviously not necessary to do. You may imagine how annoying this could be.
IABot on Finnish Wikipedia
Hi! Could you check https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202804 when you have some time and let me know what I need to do next to get the IABot to the Finnish Wikipedia? Many users are wishing to get this deployed on Finnish Wikipedia. Regards, Stryn (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Stryn, I'm preparing to test a major update to how the bot handles configuration. I would like to get this tested and deployed before I continuing deploying to more wikis. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
IABot deactivated on nlwiki
Hello, the nlwiki community reported that IABot was malfunctioning. Way too many live links were marked as dead; the decision was taken to deactivate the bot on nlwiki. I did some investigating and discovered a possible cause: Spamhaus' CBL has blacklisted (what I presume to be) the IP address used by the bot, see here. Is this plausible? --bdijkstra (talk) 17:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Bdijkstra, that is the IP of the bot, but I wonder why it got blacklisted. I mean yea, it's a bot, but it's not malicious. I have removed the listing. Maybe that may help resolve things. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:14, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Looking at the description it is most likely not the bot software that is the problem, but some botnet program running on the same machine or on a different machine behind the same NAT router. --bdijkstra (talk) 18:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Bdijkstra, Nope. This IP belongs to IABot only. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- I hope you're right. Is there a way to tell IABot to only check the live status of an URL? I'd like to check a few links before enabling the bot again. --bdijkstra (talk) 08:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- I guess you missed my question? I didn't see it in the FAQ. --bdijkstra (talk) 08:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- I hope you're right. Is there a way to tell IABot to only check the live status of an URL? I'd like to check a few links before enabling the bot again. --bdijkstra (talk) 08:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Bdijkstra, Nope. This IP belongs to IABot only. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Looking at the description it is most likely not the bot software that is the problem, but some botnet program running on the same machine or on a different machine behind the same NAT router. --bdijkstra (talk) 18:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Bdijkstra, I am however exploring methods of setting certain IABot jobs to appear as different IPs based on whatever region Wikipedia it's working on. This is in hopes of getting around some geo-restrictions. So on nlwiki, IABot will appear to third party sites as making requests from the Netherlands. But a setup like this is insanely difficult to setup.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:51, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be based on the geo-location where the site of the reference (URL) resides? References to Dutch sites, not only exist on nlwiki. You don't bypass geo-restrictions on cnwiki by making it appear as a request from China. -- Sb008 (talk) 22:55, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sb008, You're overthinking it. A certain language Wikipedia is not likely going to include a link that is geo-blocked for them. Enwiki is least likely to include a Japanese geo-blocked site, and vice versa. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- I would not have thought that IP geolocation is an important reason to block IABot. Anyway, perhaps there are VPN providers that allow dynamic programmatic country selection? --bdijkstra (talk) 08:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Bdijkstra, I have a VPN provider that lets me move my digital presence at will. I'm going to see if I can integrate that. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:24, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be based on the geo-location where the site of the reference (URL) resides? References to Dutch sites, not only exist on nlwiki. You don't bypass geo-restrictions on cnwiki by making it appear as a request from China. -- Sb008 (talk) 22:55, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Bdijkstra, I am however exploring methods of setting certain IABot jobs to appear as different IPs based on whatever region Wikipedia it's working on. This is in hopes of getting around some geo-restrictions. So on nlwiki, IABot will appear to third party sites as making requests from the Netherlands. But a setup like this is insanely difficult to setup.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:51, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Protect request
Hi. I requested for protection on The Last of Us Part II because of high vandalism + changing sourced content, but apparently, someone also recently requested but it was denied at some point within the last 8 days. Can you look into it? −αΣn=1NDi[n][Σj∈C{i}Fji[n − 1]+Fexti[(n^−1)] 20:07, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Nevermind, it is resolved. Have a nice day. −αΣn=1NDi[n][Σj∈C{i}Fji[n − 1]+Fexti[(n^−1)] 20:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello!
Hello, My name is Precious and I'm an artist. I'd love you to help me create a Musician profile for me.. I'd give more details on your request, thanks Myguideout (talk) 21:30, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Happy
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Hey, Cyberpower678. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! CommanderWaterford (talk) 06:41, 26 June 2020 (UTC) |
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premierpostal.com
Hello, InternetArchiveBot seems to have a lot of problems with this domain, which is used to cite post office information in articles. It thinks this is a dead link and provides a useless archive link, despite me telling the bot both that the link is live and the archive URL is not useful. I've just removed over 150 links for the Australian state of Victoria alone; Fleet Lists pointed out on my talk page that there are plenty more for New South Wales, let alone any other places. Can you stop the bot from adding these invalid links, and is my suggestion of Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks the right one for removing them? Graham87 08:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Graham87:, do not suggest AWB for URL work. Suggest WP:URLREQ as URLs are deceptively easy to mess up with search/replace tools. BTW since I am here, I set the domain to "Whitelist" which should stop the bot from adding archives. If that is incorrect please undo. -- GreenC 12:15, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @GreenC: Aha, thanks, I didn't know about that page! I'll keep it in mind. The whitelisting sounds good to me. Graham87 12:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- I've gone and fixed all the New South Wales links manually, because (a) I had more time on my hands than I expected, (b) judicious undos/rollbacks were more helpful in this case, and (c) editcountitis. :-) Graham87 14:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @GreenC: Aha, thanks, I didn't know about that page! I'll keep it in mind. The whitelisting sounds good to me. Graham87 12:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Archiving_by_bot_InternetArchiveBot
Please see User_talk:Graham87#Archiving_by_bot_InternetArchiveBot This is causing quite a bit of trouble. I did not mention in there that there is a further problem. A couple of weeks ago I changed the link in Jerilderie so that the link there to [8] which goes direct so that the search is no longer required. I was planning to do that to all locations. But it was then pointed out to me that for some reason such links can not be archived and I should not use such links. There are many locations which already use that format - see [9] So I am not sure at the moment which way we should go to sort all this out. Fleet Lists (talk) 09:05, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- I just noticed this. Well, you can't archive the links either way, so I'm not sure what the problem would be with direct links. Probably better discussed somewhere like the Australian Wikipedians' notice board. Graham87 14:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
Have a very happy first edit anniversary!
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Please put a link to the false-positive response site on the InternetArchiveBot's home page
User talk:InternetArchiveBot has a link to the page on which to report false positives, but User:InternetArchiveBot doesn't; linking to it from both pages will make it easier for people to find that page. Guy Harris (talk) 19:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).
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Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.
Technical news
- Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).
Arbitration
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community. - The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles
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- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
Continued problem
I am very sorry but your InternetArchiveBot still has the same problem, and I have the same complaint and request: please ask your bot to stop reproducing this problem. Thank you. Kindest regards, Michael Romanov (talk) 19:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- Michael Romanov, the bot was activated by user ru:User: Mike like0708. I would advise he not activate the bot until the bug is fixed. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 00:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Please explain InternetArchiveBot edit
Please explain this edit. I have two issues with the edit.
- The page in question, https://hpiers.obspm.fr/ is working.
- In "External links" sections, we are generally interested in the latest version of a page, not an archived version. Usually, if a page in "External links" goes dead, it should deleted, not pointed to an archive. This decision should be made by a human editor, not a bot. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot on huwiki
Hello! InternetArchiveBot is systematically archieving links that don't need to be archieved, and marking alive links as dead on huwiki. Please, do something about it. Thanks. Amator linguarum (talk) 17:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Bad replacement; cannot be reported
This URL is not dead, but was replaced on Wikispecies in this edit (which I have reverted). I attempted to use the tool for reporting such cases, but its response was "These URLs were not found in the DB and will be ignored". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:11, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Same issue with [10] in another edit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:16, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- And with [11] in yet another edit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:19, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
On the first one, see here. Maybe the rest are like that also. Need to be logged into the Species site in the interface (upper-right corner pulldown), and the URL as it appears on the page (copied from left side of the diff). -- GreenC 12:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Moowoo
Hello, you deleted Category:Moowoo. Please salt this page, it has been 9 times recreated in the last two days. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 16:50, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
IAB on dewiki
Hi Cyber,
I haven't seen the IAB on my watchlist for quite a while, and my maintenance lists are getting shorter and shorter. Which is a good thing basically, but I see only one IAB edit since June 26 - is the bot not running continuously? I miss him, sort of! ;-)
Kind regards, Grueslayer 06:04, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Grueslayer, the bot is temporarily deactivated on dewiki due to some reported bugs. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 16:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, that's sad to hear. Any estimation when the bot might run again? Any discussion to participate in? Kind regards, Grueslayer 08:14, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Grueslayer, I'm working on a couple of big updates, that fix bugs on numerous different Wikipedias at once. But I'm only one person. So I can't say for certain right now. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 16:50, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, that's fine. I was worried the process would be stuck in the mud (dewiki Luddites can be quite a pain in the ass) but now I'm fine again and will simply wait. Thanks and kind regards, Grueslayer 05:34, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Grueslayer, I'm working on a couple of big updates, that fix bugs on numerous different Wikipedias at once. But I'm only one person. So I can't say for certain right now. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 16:50, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, that's sad to hear. Any estimation when the bot might run again? Any discussion to participate in? Kind regards, Grueslayer 08:14, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Your bot at RFPP
Unless there's something I don't understand, your bot is being over-enthusiastic here. Bishonen | tålk 05:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC).
- Bishonen, the wrong protection is applied. You claimed to have semi'd the page, but it's actually fully protected. That's what the bot is complaining about.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, I see, sorry about that. It was unintentional. I'll change to semi. Bishonen | tålk 15:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC).
- Bishonen, all good. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, I see, sorry about that. It was unintentional. I'll change to semi. Bishonen | tålk 15:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC).
Repo/bug report location for ReFill 2/ng?
Some people indicate you're involved in it, I just want to make sure that the bug I want to file is in the correct location. Jerod Lycett (talk) 00:18, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Thoughts on bots
If there's some ambiguity around the (google books link replacement) for IABot, maybe preemptively turn that off and have a follow-on conversation about that? – SJ + 16:25, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sj, As I made in the statement, the book linking process was disabled back in mid-June. Only the 404 project is still running. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 16:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
IPv6 deployment
The article: IPv6 deployment has some broken links. Could you please run the InternetArchive bot on it to fix them up? 2A01:36D:2800:72E6:88D2:78F9:EF0:443 (talk) 07:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ran it, I suggest grabbing an account so you can do so yourself. Jerod Lycett (talk) 07:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
A beer for you!
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Some issues caused by an InternetArchiveBot edit
Hi Cyberpower, in this InternetArchiveBot edit [12] your bot conducted a number of strange actions I would like to report. When you find the time, can you please investigate and fix the bot accordingly?
- At the bottom of the page under "External links" there is a text structure with embedded links which allows to browse a former website for historical & research purposes. The structure lists a number of websites combined with specific start and end dates for each of them, as these websites were either non-existant before or after the date or were usurped for something else. The bot not only removed some of the links so that only a rather non-sensical text fragment remained, but it also changed the dates of the archived snapshots to different dates. Such structures are used in various articles, and I have seen them being messed up by the bot for some while. I don't know what triggers the bot to touch these structures at all, given that they contain only archived links. Ideally it should just leave them alone.
- In two cases, the bot replaced a functioning archive-url link pointing to archive.org by links from archive.today. While it is nice that it expanded the archive.today links, I think it shouldn't have replaced the archive.org link in the first place.
- When the bot changes links it apparently also edits dates, even if they do not change. There's no need to do that if the date doesn't change, but if it does, the format used should be in compliance with the cs1-dates parameter of a "Use xxx dates" template, if given. In particular, the bot should adhere to the cs1-dates=y value. It is somewhat annoying (and against our editing guidelines) that the bot inserts long date formats, when all references consistently use the ymd format, and this is even indicated by cs1-dates=y.
Thanks and greetings. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 17:34, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Matthiaspaul, this might be a bug that needs investigation. Can you please file this into a Phabricator ticket?—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:41, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- I can't log in there, therefore I'll leave that up to you. Nevertheless, this bug is getting annoying, as there has been more than enough time to fix the issue and it's still doing this:
- So, would you please fix your bot!
- Thanks --Matthiaspaul (talk) 15:45, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Cyberbot edits on Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple
Hi! Your bot clerks requests on Changing username pages. He does a good job, thank you! There is one problem tho. Every time your bot mentions me, I keep getting the mention notification for the next few hours every ten minutes. Do you know if this is something that can be fixed by you, or is it a software issue? Cheers! Nadzik (talk) 14:55, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Nadzik, nope. Doesn't sound like a bot bug. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:52, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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Hey. SihleRzee (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Username is not changed!
Username is not changed! (계정 이름이 안바뀝니다!)
Check to Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple#DAEGUBUS (Bot) → DAEGUBUS~enwiki --DAEGUBUS (Bot) (talk) 12:19, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- DAEGUBUS (Bot), okay. Why tell me? —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:02, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Question
Hello Cyber!
There's any way to fix the pt.Wikipedia bot and make it also link "books".? I think that this project of link the IA books in the Wiki is very interesting and I wonder if could be possible to make an "Wanted list" for the Open Library Sponsorhip Program focused for the Portuguese language users. Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 18:51, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Erick Soares3, It's planned to be deployed on all Wikipedias eventually, but one thing at a time. I need to get the bot fixed on ptwiki first. That should be coming up next week hopefully. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:04, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Erick Soares3 (talk) 17:08, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Old problems in SqWiki
Hello, Cyber! :)
I've written you countless of times in the past but you've told me you've been busy with school - totally acceptable. Hoping you have a bit more time now, I'd like to draw your attention on pages like these:
There are more pages like those in SqWiki. There are also other problems with the bot but we can discuss them after fixing the immediate problem above. Take care! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi, I thought I turned off bot messages. Who turned it back on? —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:01, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. Maybe it was me when doing general changes with its messages and options. Even though I don't remember exactly when has been the last time I've dealt with it. (I'm saying that only because I know no one else from SqWiki would bother to deal with it and since I believe it wasn't you...) But you're sort of missing the point there. The messages in themselves are not the problem. They only serve as a representation of the bot's activity. The problem is the bot's activity which is stuck in a loop on pages like those mentioned above and keeps doing the same changes over and over again. Their article history is the same as looking at the messages on their talk pages because of the bot's activity. In some of the pages the bot has even been adding links forever in a loop like behavior trying to fix them.
- And it must be said that besides all that, we sort of want the bot messages to raise awareness of its work in the background and consequently of the importance of good reference links. That's why we've given extra importance to the translation's accuracy of its messages, one of the other problems I've tried discussing with you in the past. (Maybe we could try to stop them in the future if they did become too much for us.) So having that in mind, turning off bot messages isn't really a desirable solution. Turning them of temporarily is totally normal though but as I said, the main problem is the bot's activity that keeps messing with certain articles, not its messages. - Klein Muçi (talk) 17:58, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Your bot issued a warning against me
@Cyberpower678: I opened an AfD and was explained why the page was not worth deleting at which point I put on the talk page that the AfD had been resolved and removed the AfD tag. Despite following protocol your bot issued a warning to me and I would like you to remove said warning swiftly. Thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope this can be resolved quickly. Bgrus22 (talk) 08:52, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Bgrus22: you’re welcome to remove the warning yourself. The bot warned you because you didn’t officially close the AFD before removing the template. I have done so now. only (talk) 09:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh thank you! This might seem like a dumb question but how does one do that? Bgrus22 (talk) 18:38, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
May need a replacement bot
If this doesn't get fix, think you bot can take over User:Amalthea (bot) task 4? — xaosflux Talk 21:26, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Xaosflux, Cyberbot I already does the tallying. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:27, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yea, that's why I thought of you - this task is literately just updating User:Amalthea/RfX/RfA count and User:Amalthea/RfX/RfB count (which could be moved, it is called from Template:RfA watchlist notice. — xaosflux Talk 21:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Xaosflux, Oh this if for the watchlist notice. Okay. Sure. I've been slowly working on an RfX rewrite of Cyberbot I. I could just throw that in there. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:25, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Will be pretty seamless, and changing the template to a new location means that there wouldn't be any conflict even if the other bot ran again. — xaosflux Talk 23:23, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Xaosflux, Oh this if for the watchlist notice. Okay. Sure. I've been slowly working on an RfX rewrite of Cyberbot I. I could just throw that in there. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:25, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yea, that's why I thought of you - this task is literately just updating User:Amalthea/RfX/RfA count and User:Amalthea/RfX/RfB count (which could be moved, it is called from Template:RfA watchlist notice. — xaosflux Talk 21:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Vince Vaughn and Zachary Taylor
Hi, thanks for your help on Vince Vaughn and Zachary Taylor. However, I noticed that when you protected the pages you protected them for the same length of time as the previous protection, which expired only a short time ago. Would you please consider making the protection on both those pages longer? Senatobian (talk) 00:02, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Senatobian, not with just one IP. If it starts up again immediately after protection expires, I'll make it longer. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 00:02, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot
Please here. Something appears to be wrong. I've temp blocked as was unsure of best way to handle. Thanks. Glen 04:01, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Glen, sqwiki's config settings got planted onto enwiki. IABot thinks enwiki is SqWiki now. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:18, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot on Armenian WIkipedia
Hi dear Cyberpower678! Is it possible to run the InternetArchiveBot on Armenian Wikipedia? What can I do to make it possible? :). --ԱշոտՏՆՂ (talk) 17:20, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- ԱշոտՏՆՂ, I don't recall if a discussion to invite the bot to Armenian has happened yet. Best to get community support first via a discussion. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:16, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Cyberpower678, thanks for your response! Yeah sure, so first I need to open a discussion on the hywiki Village pump? And what should I do after that?--ԱշոտՏՆՂ (talk) 12:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ԱշոտՏՆՂ: After it get approved, you need to create a task on Phabricator with the tag 'InternetArchiveBot' --Nintendofan885T&Cs apply 16:05, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Nintendofan885 Thanks ^_^.--ԱշոտՏՆՂ (talk) 16:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)