User talk:Crinoline

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Hello, Crinoline, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Ysangkok (talk) 14:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A cupcake for you!

Thanks for spotting that, here's a little reward. From Mdann52 (talk) 21:28, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Mdann52 - looks like my favourite flavour, too! I'll just try to work out how to put a talkback notice on your page....Crinoline (talk) 22:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I managed it! Very educational.... I think you might be one of the first people I've spoken to on Wikipedia, so thanks for the encouragement. It wasn't very pleasant finding that comment, so cupcakes much appreciated! As well as your help in removing it, of course. How did you remove it? Is it more than a plain deletion?Crinoline (talk) 22:21, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the best you can do is request revision deletion. Mdann52 (talk)

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Thank you for introducing yourself and contributing to Wikipedia! If you have any questions feel free to drop me a line at my talk page. Happy Editing! ~ Anastasia [Missionedit] (talk) 16:53, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Links

Hi, here's the link:

Leutha (talk) 14:06, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for JSTOR access

Hello Crinoline, and thanks for getting in touch about JSTOR access. I am very sympathetic to your reasoning for getting access, and I am very happy to see you working on learning disabilities and related topics. However, you are just getting started, and we are only giving these accounts out to editors with an established track record of content work. I am willing to bend the rules a bit, but only so much: do you mind re-applying when you have, say 500 article edits completed? I just need to see a bit more article work. It is part of our agreement with JSTOR that the accounts only go out to editors with experience. The Interior (Talk) 21:06, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford meetups

Hi, thanks for coming to Oxford 28 yesterday; the last of us left at about 18:40. I'm sorry you couldn't make Oxford 26 in March.

The group that I couldn't remember the name of is Manchester Girl Geeks, they seem to have an annual Wikimedia event, see wmuk:Wikimedia Girl Geek Dinner.

Some people that you might like to contact regarding events, not just like this but editathons, training days etc.: KTC (talk · contribs), Panyd (talk · contribs), Yaris678 (talk · contribs) and Kaiho (talk · contribs) - also known as Daria Cybulska (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Bethany House of Laredo

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 13:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Images for book article

Copied from Teahouse - was not sure where else to keep it for future reference....

Hi Crinoline. Non-free content can only be used in articles per non-free content use criterion #9; so, please don't upload any such files until the draft you're working on has been approved or otherwise added to the WP:MAINSPACE as explained at WP:DRAFTS#Preparing drafts. If you try to add an non-free file to a draft, it will eventually end up being removed and perhaps even deleted per WP:F5 if it's not being used in any other article. So, it's best to wait.

The copyright of a book cover is most likely going to be held by the company that publishes the book. There may be some cases where the cover's designer (if independent of the publisher) or the book's author might share in the copyright, or cases where the book's cover incorporates other copyrighted works; however, in general, I believe it's the book's publisher. So, if you see the cover art being used anywhere online that is not an official website of the publisher, author, or designer of the cover, then that website probably doesn't own the copyright on the cover art (even if they claim they do). If you take a photo of a book cover, then you might be creating a WP:Derivative work depending upon the nature (i.e. degree of creativity involved in taking the photo) of the photo, but most likely it would be a "slavish reproduction" with no new creativity added and thus not eligible for its own separate copyright protection per c:Commons:2D copying. Think of it like this: you go to the library, take a book of the shelf and then xerox it (i.e. make a photo copy of the cover). All you've basically done is reproduce the cover in a different medium without adding any creativity that would create a new copyright for the xerox of the book.

You should if possible try to use the cover art from the first edition of the book as explained at the "Images" section of Wikipedia:WikiProject Books for contextual purposes. For copyright purposes, the book cover would almost certainly need to be treated as non-free content (see item one of WP:NFCI and WP:NFC#cite_note-3 for more details) unless you can demonstrate it's been freely released per WP:COPY#IMAGES or otherwise in the public domain for some reason. If possible, you should try to find an official website where the cover can be seen and download the image from there. It should be OK to download a file from Amazon as long as the book is being sold by the publisher via Amazon and not being sold second-hand by some other third-party because that might involve another copyright holder if it's a photo taken by someone else. If you photograph the cover yourself, you should try to frame things so that only the cover is shown and there are no other possibly copyright protected elements visible. When you upload the file, you should try to include as much info about the book and its cover as possible, but at least include the publisher, the author, the link where the image came from, and the isbn number. If you know any more like who designed the cover, then please add that too. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Crinoline. An image of the cover you find online (like here or here) might be OK since it looks like it was uploaded by the publishing company, the author, or someone else connected to the book. In other words, it doesn't look like someone took a photo of the cover and uploaded it because they're trying to re-sell the book, or that somebody uploaded the incorrect cover of the book. An image such a this one on the left would probably not be OK since doesn't really look like a slavish copy, but the one on the right would probably be OK. I don't really know how sites like Amazon, Goodbooks, or Versobooks work, but they don't seem to be like E-bay or Yahoo Auctions in that general users aren't uploading their own photos of the stuff they want to sell. Anyway, before you upload anything (even your own photo) though, you might want to ask at WP:MCQ or WT:BOOK just to see what some others might think. Finally, a WP:INFOBOX would be something you add to the article about the book, not something you add to the file's page. You would need to add a non-free use rationale to the files page. For book covers, Template:Non-free use rationale book cover is often used, but you don't need to use a template if you don't want to. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Making of the Black Working Class

Hello, saw your post on the RD, here's a review of the book from July 1988. Hope this helps! Loafiewa (talk) 18:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BOTJpsLzIIKtJKZiCtBxxGxmWUlKyENM/view?usp=sharing[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:The Making of the Black Working Class in Britain

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:01, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:The Making of the Black Working Class in Britain

Hello, Crinoline. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "The Making of the Black Working Class in Britain".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:51, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]