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VandalSniper bug report

User_talk:Crazycomputers/VandalSniper -- Netsnipe CVU ^(Talk) 05:35, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I've posted more details on the discussion page.

Re: CNN 5 and 67.32.172.177

But because of the "good job," I am worried that the 2 users might be say, 2 friends in the same room. The users in question appear to have stopped vandalizing, however. -- Where 01:26, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

reply

Well, he's blocked now. -- Where 02:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

re: accusations of vandalism

I believe one of my two sons was the perpetrator in regard to the messages I received from you concerning vandalism. It will not happen again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.123.100 (talk • contribs)

That is good news. I encourage them to contribute constructively to Wikipedia instead of vandalizing, which will be short-lived. --Chris (talk) 02:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

re: Vandilism

Please be warned that my son who uses Wikipedia regularly for all purposes to expand his knowledge came to me and complained of his cousins profane behaviour. I offer my apologies and promise it will not happen again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.101.70 (talk • contribs)

Good news. But why should I "be warned" of this? --Chris (talk) 06:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

70.51.101.70-- I forgot to attatch the number and the grounds of the vandilism. The boys, who are basketball fans edited two pages of NBA players Tony Delk and Antoine Walker.

Yes, I see. They have both been reverted already. --Chris (talk) 06:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

VandalSniper

I noticed in your development notes that you are looking for an IRC library for mono; this seemed to be what you are looking for. The RC feed, as you probably know, is on browne.wikimedia.org, on the channel #en.wikipedia.

In addition, I have 2 feature suggestions:

Automatically removing items from the list when the latest edit is vandalism reversion
Loading diffs for pages in advance, so the user doesn't have to wait for the page to load s/he tells the computer that s/he wants to view the next instance of potential vandalism.

Finally, here is a well deserved barnstar:

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Where hereby awards you the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for your great work on VandalSniper thus far. -- Where 11:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Happy editing! -- Where 11:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks!

In response to the features, I have considered those too. The IRC feed would make these features much easier to implement. Right now, removing items from the list on revert means that we have to poll the page history... of 20 pages. Not fun to code, and not good for Wikipedia's bandwidth bill. For the diffs, I had considered that and was about to implement it, but then remembered that if someone had made an edit since the diff was cached it would not display the "Newer edit" link (though presumably fixing the prior issue would take care of this one too). Also since I can't get cookies out of the WebControl, these cached diffs would look like you were logged out.

But I'll keep them in mind as I continue development. Cheers! --Chris (talk) 12:37, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

iVandalSniper

Thought you might want to know I'm going to take a shot at running VandalSniper on Mac OS X Tiger. Every Mac user's friend Fink is coming along for the ride. fink install monodevelop is installing monodevelop and its 120-odd dependencies (including Mono and Gtk#) as we speak. My poor iBook has a long night of compiling ahead of it. I'll keep you updated :) --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 15:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Awesome! Please do let me know how it turns out. If you can put together installation instructions for OS X, feel free to post them somewhere and I'll link! (Or put them at User:Crazycomputers/VandalSniper/Mac OS X.) --Chris (talk) 15:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

12 hours later and still compiling... then again it did fail while I was asleep for about 5 hours (damn conflicts). I think around 100 dependencies have compiled already, so we're getting there. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 02:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, it didn't work:

aeoxima:/sw/etc/mono/1.0 james$ /sw/bin/mono ~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20/vs.exe 

** (/Users/james/Desktop/vandalsniper-20/vs.exe:17716): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /Users/james/Desktop/vandalsniper-20/vs.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   gtk-sharp    (assemblyref_index=3)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/Users/james/Desktop/vandalsniper-20).


** (/Users/james/Desktop/vandalsniper-20/vs.exe:17716): WARNING **: The class Gtk.ToolItem could not be loaded, used in gtk-sharp, Version=2.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=35e10195dab3c99f

=================================================================
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries 
used by your application.
=================================================================

Stacktrace:

in <0xffffffff> VandalSniper.MainWindow:Main (string[])
in <0x28> VandalSniper.MainWindow:Main (string[])
in <0x24> VandalSniper.MainWindow:Main (string[])
in <0x64> (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.Object:runtime_invoke_void_string[] (object,intptr,intptr,intptr)
Abort trap

Nice and cryptic as usual. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you find gtk-sharp.dll on your system? What happens when you run MonoDevelop? Also you will need to cd to vandalsniper-20 before running vs.exe, as it needs to find the .so file in there in the working directory. (Or you can link it to your current directory.) --Chris (talk) 05:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

(resetting indent) gtk-sharp.dll:

aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ mdfind gtk-sharp.dll
/sw/lib/mono/gac/gtk-sharp/1.0.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/gtk-sharp.dll
/sw/lib/mono/gac/gtk-sharp/1.0.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/gtk-sharp.dll.config
/sw/lib/mono/gac/gtk-sharp/2.4.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/gtk-sharp.dll
/sw/lib/mono/gac/gtk-sharp/2.4.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/gtk-sharp.dll.config

monodevelop starts up, just a white rectangle in the middle of the screen (I presume that's the splash screen) and just stops there. No errors in xterm. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, monodevelop just started but crashed:

File:Monodevelop OS X crash.png

from xterm:

aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ monodevelop &
[1] 17889
aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ 11139 [26010112] INFO MonoDevelop.Core.ILoggingService (null) - Initializing service: MonoDevelop.Core.PropertyService
11239 [26010112] INFO MonoDevelop.Core.ILoggingService (null) - Initializing service: MonoDevelop.Core.FileUtilityService
11519 [26010112] INFO MonoDevelop.Core.ILoggingService (null) - Initializing service: MonoDevelop.Documentation.MonodocService

(MonoDevelop:17889): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'gnome-fs-regular'. The 'hicolor' theme
was not found either, perhaps you need to install it.
You can get a copy from:
        http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases
95290 [26010112] DEBUG MonoDevelop.Core.ILoggingService (null) - Writing /Users/james/.config/MonoDevelop/CodeCompletionData/mscorlib_1.0.5000.0_b77a5c561934e089.pidb

--james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

What is in the "monodevelop" file in your home folder? Maybe it's setting up MONO_PATH? --Chris (talk) 06:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

There's no file named monodevelop in my home folder. :) I played around and set MONO_PATH to /sw/lib/mono and it seems to have changed the error message (better or worse I can't tell):

aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ /sw/bin/mono ./vs.exe 

** (./vs.exe:17936): WARNING **: The class Gtk.ToolItem could not be loaded, used in gtk-sharp, Version=2.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=35e10195dab3c99f

** (./vs.exe:17936): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /Users/james/Desktop/vandalsniper-20/vs.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   glade-sharp    (assemblyref_index=4)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/Users/james/Desktop/vandalsniper-20/).


** (./vs.exe:17936): WARNING **: Missing method .ctor in assembly /Users/james/Desktop/vandalsniper-20/vs.exe, type Glade.XML

Unhandled Exception: System.TypeLoadException: Could not load type 'Gtk.ToolItem' from assembly 'gtk-sharp, Version=2.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=35e10195dab3c99f'.
in <0x00000> <unknown method>
in <0x00028> VandalSniper.MainWindow:Main (System.String[] args)
in <0x00024> VandalSniper.MainWindow:Main (System.String[] args)

But I also broke monodevelop in the process, it now crashes:

aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ monodevelop &
[2] 17937
aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ 
** (./MonoDevelop.exe:17937): WARNING **: The class Gtk.ToolButton could not be loaded, used in gtk-sharp, Version=2.4.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=35e10195dab3c99f

** ERROR **: file class.c: line 2453 (mono_class_setup_parent): should not be reached
aborting...

[2]+  Abort trap              monodevelop

Both seem to have the same error regarding being unable to load something from GTK, but they're using different versions of GTK# (!?!!!). --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 06:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

It looks like it compiled Gtk# 2.4, per your previous post about gtk-sharp.dll. Monodevelop and VandalSniper need >= 2.8 to run. You'll also need Glade# according to the other VandalSniper report. --Chris (talk) 06:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Yep, fink show-deps monodevelop reported that it needed at least >= 2.4, and that's the latest version available on the unstable tree (package database). Manual install time, yippee! --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 07:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

(resetting indent) I compiled and installed Gtk# 2.8 and all its dependencies, and now the error message has changed pretty significantly:

aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ /sw/bin/mono ./vs.exe 

(<unknown>:14339): libglade-WARNING **: unknown attribute `comments' for <property>.

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14339): libglade-WARNING **: unknown widget class 'GtkMenuToolButton'

Unhandled Exception: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.DllNotFoundException: libgobject-2.0-0.dll
in (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Object:g_object_ref (intptr)
in <0x00030> Gtk.Object:set_Raw (IntPtr value)
in <0x00030> GLib.Object:.ctor (IntPtr raw)
in <0x0001c> Gtk.Object:.ctor (IntPtr raw)
in <0x0001c> Gtk.Widget:.ctor (IntPtr raw)
in <0x0001c> Gtk.Container:.ctor (IntPtr raw)
in <0x0001c> Gtk.Bin:.ctor (IntPtr raw)
in <0x0001c> Gtk.ToolItem:.ctor (IntPtr raw)
in <0x00000> <unknown method>
in (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.MonoCMethod:InternalInvoke (object,object[])
in <0x000c4> System.Reflection.MonoCMethod:Invoke (System.Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture)--- End of inner exception stack trace ---

in <0x00154> System.Reflection.MonoCMethod:Invoke (System.Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture)
in <0x00058> System.Reflection.MonoCMethod:Invoke (BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture)
in <0x0034c> System.Activator:CreateInstance (System.Type type, BindingFlags bindingAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] args, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture, System.Object[] activationAttributes)
in <0x00050> System.Activator:CreateInstance (System.Type type, BindingFlags bindingAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] args, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture)
in <0x000d4> GLib.ObjectManager:CreateObject (IntPtr raw)
in <0x00278> GLib.Object:GetObject (IntPtr o, Boolean owned_ref)
in <0x00018> GLib.Object:GetObject (IntPtr o)
in <0x0005c> Glade.XML:GetWidget (System.String name)
in <0x00208> Glade.XML:BindFields (System.Object target, System.Type type)
in <0x00028> Glade.XML:BindFields (System.Object target)
in <0x00028> Glade.XML:Autoconnect (System.Object handler)
in <0x0036c> VandalSniper.MainWindow:.ctor ()
in <0x00024> VandalSniper.MainWindow:Main (System.String[] args)

The only thing I can gather out of that is "System.DllNotFoundException: libgobject-2.0-0.dll" which Spotlight can't find at all on my computer. I had trouble with Gobject when I was trying to install all the dependencies manually... but I couldn't find a stand-alone package for it. I worked out that it comes with Glib though - would reinstalling that help? Would I need to rebuild Gtk+ and then Gtk# if I did? --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 10:03, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

It might and it might not. Try it and see. ;) --Chris (talk) 10:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Getting closer :D Fixed the gobject problem by adding another dllmap to mono's config file. New error (which with my limited programming experience looks like it might be fixable on your end):

aeoxima:~/Desktop/vandalsniper-20 james$ /sw/bin/mono --config /sw/etc/mono/config --debug ./vs.exe 

(<unknown>:14426): libglade-WARNING **: unknown attribute `comments' for <property>.

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): Gtk-WARNING **: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed

(<unknown>:14426): libglade-WARNING **: unknown widget class 'GtkMenuToolButton'
Unable to set value for field btnUserWarnings

Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentException: Object type Gtk.Label cannot be converted to target type: Gtk.MenuToolButton
Parameter name: val
in [0x0008c] System.Reflection.MonoField:SetValue (System.Object obj, System.Object val, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture)
in <0x00250> Glade.XML:BindFields (System.Object target, System.Type type)

You can probably ignore all the warning, no one really cares about those :D --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 11:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks more like it's on Glade#'s end. Maybe it doesn't know what a MenuToolButton is, so it's making a Label by default... but when it goes to bind the popup menu finds out that it's really not a MenuToolButton after all. Which version of libglade do you have installed? --Chris (talk) 11:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

2.3.6 :) --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 11:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

2.5.1 over here. There's a good chance that's the problem. --Chris (talk) 11:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Righteo, I'll upgrade now! --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 11:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Upgraded to 2.5.1 and same errors :( --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 11:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I have a crazy new theory... the error says (<unknown>:14426): libglade-WARNING **: unknown widget class 'GtkMenuToolButton'. Googling tells me that GtkMenuToolButton was introduced in Gtk 2.6. My new theory is that mono is still running using gtk# 2.4 even thought I installed Gtk# 2.8 as well... I'll tinker some more. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 11:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I would bet that it's finding an old libglade and using that. Note the warnings come from libglade, not Glade or Glade#. You might need to recompile Gtk# against the new libglade. --Chris (talk) 17:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Hmm... Gtk# won't compile now:

gcc  -o .libs/libgladesharpglue-2.so -bundle  .libs/gladexml.o .libs/generated.o  .libs/libgladesharpglue-2.lax/libglade-2.0.a/glade-gtk.o .libs/libgladesharpglue-2.lax/libglade-2.0.a/glade-init.o .libs/libgladesharpglue-2.lax/libglade-2.0.a/glade-parser.o .libs/libgladesharpglue-2.lax/libglade-2.0.a/glade-xml.o   -L/sw/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/sw/lib/freetype219/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib /sw/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.dylib /sw/lib/libXrender.dylib /sw/lib/libpng12.dylib /sw/lib/libglitz.dylib /sw/lib/freetype219/lib/libfreetype.dylib /sw/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.dylib /sw/lib/libxml2.dylib -lpthread -lz /sw/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.dylib /sw/lib/libatk-1.0.dylib /sw/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.dylib -lm /sw/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.dylib /sw/lib/libpango-1.0.dylib /sw/lib/libcairo.dylib /sw/lib/libgobject-2.0.dylib /sw/lib/libgmodule-2.0.dylib /sw/lib/libglib-2.0.dylib /sw/lib/libintl.dylib /sw/lib/libiconv.dylib
/usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_libintl_dgettext
_libintl_textdomain
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libgladesharpglue-2.la] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2

Seems to be related to libglade... --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 03:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I am getting this same exception using the prepackaged Mono 1.1.16.1 with Gtk# 2.8.3. --Chris (talk) 11:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentException: Object type Gtk.Label cannot be converted to target type: Gtk.MenuToolButton

User page vandal patrol

Thanks for your help there. The user who's vandalism your reverted would be the permanently blocked User:Biff loman9... who's also attacked the blocking adminstrator User:Woohookitty's page on a number of occassions. Thanks again. Netscott 16:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

58.163.157.124

And you're gonna fucking ban me hey? I can change my Ip address (Personal attack removed)! And you're going to consider what? I've already changed the vandalism that you did, so maybe you should get banned (Personal attack removed)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.163.157.124 (talk • contribs)

Can you link to this alleged vandalism of mine? --Chris (talk) 11:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Please read WP:NPA before posting further comments. --Chris (talk) 11:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Alleged?? Ha! Don't go telling people no to "Vandalise", when you vandalise yourself!! And you'll probably fuck up the page again if I link it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.163.157.124 (talk • contribs)

Then I am done with this discusson. Come back when you are ready to provide proof. If you accuse further without providing such proof, I am prepared to bring your behavior to the attention of an administrator per WP:NPA. Good day. --Chris (talk) 11:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

You're a fucking girl, "oo I'm gonna go and tell the administrator boo hoo"! (Personal attack removed) And don't change my edits again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.163.157.124 (talk • contribs)

Profoundly malicious

Roffle. - 81.179.104.113 15:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

its me

i wrote that becasue my friend told me that he murdered his mom in the shower...is that true or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.64.137 (talk • contribs)

Please see WP:V. If it's not verifiable, it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. --Chris (talk) 05:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

opps

I really sorry. My browser messed it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.127.74.88 (talk • contribs)

No problem. I thought it might be a software error. --Chris (talk) 21:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

pooper scooper

I was wondering why you didnt allow the edit of the pooper scooper article. I did years of research to uncover that information, and I don't want it to go to waste. I am a leading authority on pooper scoopers and you shouldn't question my research.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.206.224.190 (talk • contribs)

Then the WP:NOR policy may be of interest to you. --Chris (talk) 00:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

bitch

the magezene doesnt capitalize bitch, so i thought it correct to alter that in the text, and i was gonna add a This Title Cannot Be Displayed Properly Due to Technical Limitations, i also changed Self (magazene) to Simply Self with the correct link behind it with a "|" which you also reverted. i should have used a edit summary, also i didnt notice i was no logged on. thanks dude for being there though that was mighty quick! i dont wanna be mean but there have been a lot of recent changed to the Richmond, California article which are truly distatsteful and very unhelpful. btw i have a question, how do you make a weather/climate chart? thanks, (Nevan) Qrc2006 02:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, my apologies. Thanks for correcting me. --Chris (talk) 02:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the approval. I'll download it once I get on my other computer.

My desktop is Mandrake, tat should be alright I guess? Kedi the tramp (talk • contribs • count) (Respond to me on my Talk.) 23:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

reply

hell

What the hell is wrong with you. I am editing and you ppl are not allowing me to do this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.227.114 (talk • contribs)

I think your contributions speak for themselves. --Chris (talk) 07:53, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Telectronics edit

Re: Telectronics revert. The company records show that the business Telectronics as disdinct from Telectronics Pty Limited was started by Noel Gray and if you look at the netry for Noel Gray oon Wicki you will see that he studied Med and was a senior design engineer at Ausi TV and radio manufatcurer Kriesler. He funded and founded the business that cannot be disputed and for you at Wicki to edit the Telectronics in fafour of the Nicks story is wrong. Nicks did not favour the totally implantable approach as stated in the Medical Journal of Australia article about his work with Kriesler engineer Eddy Hume (not Jeffcoat) in December 1962. Who is responsible for reading the refferences? There seems to be no responsibility for the editorial integrity of this entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.158.33.83 (talk • contribs)

The edit was reverted mainly because of the "Eat that!" exclamation, which is childish and completely out of place in an encyclopedia. If you want to be taken seriously I suggest you refrain from making such derogatory stabs at the other editors, especially in the article text. --Chris (talk) 19:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Editing my user page

Hi there, I was just wondering why you edited my user page to remove the "you have old messages" banner. I agree that "you have new messages" jokes are annoying, but what's wrong with old? Stifle (talk) 13:23, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

It's only obvious after close inspection that it's not saying "new." The mind sees the banner and reacts as though it was a new messages banner, which is frankly annoying when I don't have new messages. And I think most people know that they have old messages (and what about the people that don't have any messages?). It's simply an annoying practical joke that has outlived its time. --Chris (talk) 16:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

AMC Information

I've been an AMC enthusiast for about twenty five years. Early on as my interest grew, I was always angered by a majority of smearing remarks about AMC products. I feel this only tended to exaggerate my tendency to drift in normal teenage rebellion as a kid. As an adult, I feel a certain social responsibility to present AMC products in truth, for the sake of future generations... so kids don't have to experience the same greif the smearing remarks gave me, having a normal mental capacity to understand otherwise. For me, I want to teach what is true about AMC products... instead of lying to kids. That's child abuse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.201.16.178 (talk • contribs)

I reverted your edits because they destroyed all of the article formatting. Please review your contributions to see what I mean. And based on what you said, I would recommend reading WP:NPOV. I'm not suggesting that you are in violation of it (indeed the current state of these arnicles could well violate NPOV; I don't know) but just to familiarize yourself with this aspect of Wikipedia policy. --Chris (talk) 02:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalizing? I'm vandalizing Wikipedia AMC information by inserting a more appropriate, honest, non-emotionally smeared encyclopedia type text? My text is not helpful? Helpful for them glorifying each other's business... no; they have their puny agendas for their own vain glory. I seek no copywrite moneyt or pat on the back by my pool of peers. These other wanna be AMC writers are obvious cronies to one another and the truth is not a priority, but peddling books and name dropping for esteem is. My texts are redundant? The Hornet dash is a schematic diagram of the car (!), but they show their knowledge of the Hornet automobile by using awkward descriptions of bumper guards or headlight bezels. The simple truth about these cars is much more interesting than wordy, or worse, vague descriptions of how the stripes run down the side of the car. Fact is, there are true historical accomplishments AMC made with the Hornet; first compact hatchback, first with guardrail beam doors, the sorely underated dashboard. It should be understood that many AMC hobbyists have "rooting for the underdog" complex; this is where the individual feels an entitiy is misunderstood or mistreated and feels they shouldn't be, but does nothing to correct it, but rather seems to enjoy the mistreatment instead. Quickly gloss over their texts and you will notice they enjoy making smearing remarks about the AMC products. These types of statements are not just the facts, but are rather extensions of their emotional mentality. Emotionally inspired creative writing is not a proper encyclopedia format in my mind. Cronies selling their books is fine, but for kids to do research articles from Wikipedia is something of another catagory. The kids should know the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.201.16.178 (talk • contribs)

I'm not going to repeat myself. Read what I wrote above. --Chris (talk) 08:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi, thanks for reverting vandalism to my user page :) Martinp23 14:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Always welcome! --Chris (talk) 14:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...

Me too. Len W 15:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

=) --Chris (talk) 15:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

70.228.210.117

you didn't revert it i did, i was just double checking to see if it would work.

http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Maurice_Britt&diff=next&oldid=64559567

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.228.210.117 (talk • contribs)

We both reverted it at the same time. Please use the sandbox, which I linked you to, to perform further tests. --Chris (talk) 23:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

VandalSniper testimonial

I haven't really noticed anyone giving you props on VandalSniper yet, so let me be the first. Seriously, the program is amazing, beta or not. Just the fact that I can abandon trying to get VP running on Wine would be enough, but everything is beautifully speedy for me and the IRC tracking feature is just downright scary. I believe I've done about 700 edits today with VS.

I think I will be sticking with the program for quite a while; keep up the good work.

P.S. VS might need a userbox icon before long!

-- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! It's nice to know that VS is accomplishing its task well. Just try not to stay up too late, I know it can be hard to stop. ;) --Chris (talk) 11:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

And on the userbox, feel free to design one. --Chris (talk) 11:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalsniper

I was actually going to try to make it work in Knoppix. Do you know if that works? Alphachimp ^talk 11:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I signed up knowing it would be interesting to try to use Linux. I'll let you know what happens when I try it later today. Alphachimp ^talk 17:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

So I'm a Linux N00b

I downloaded the DVD release of Knoppix 5.01, and have been running it. I haven't been able to get dhcp enabled in Knoppix (and I tried it on all 3 of my computers), so I doubt anything is going to be happening soon for me very soon. Can you suggest any other Linux distro's that might not have that issue? I'm really a Linux nub. Alphachimp ^talk 15:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like maybe your NIC isn't supported. If you want to actually install a distro on your system, give Debian a whirl (use the testing netinstall). --Chris (talk) 16:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey there!

As im sitting waiting for pgk to rise from the dead...I would like to say hi and welcome you to my newly added friends list! :P Dspradau 13:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Telectronics

Would you be so kind as to have a look at Telectronics and , if you feel it would be justified, to revert ? The last change made (Top) appears to fall within the definition of vandalism; it is also destructive to the Article and defamatory.--Geoffrey Wickham 23:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

The changes to the article are quite substantial, and as such this falls into the realm of content disputes. I suggest reading WP:DR and following the steps therein. Of course, if there is already an established consensus on the version of the article that you think is accurate, you may simply revert yourself, providing a link to the discussion. --Chris (talk) 13:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Kudos

You certainly are doing a very good job at fighting vandalism, so I thought I'd give you a pretty WikiThanks image! :-) Iola k ana|^T 14:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks! --Chris (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For talking to User:Analog Kid on my user talk page :) Mushroom (Talk) 14:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I tagged some of his articles so I thought I'd try to clear things up for him. --Chris (talk) 14:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

82.35.18.132

My user page has just been vandalised by this IP- records say so was yours a while ago. Do you have any information on it or how to combat it? If so please reply either here or on my talk page. User:Tom walker 21:47 GMT 22 July 2006

He's on my "hitlist" now, so changes from him will be brought to my attention. If he persists after warnings we can report him to WP:AIV. --Chris (talk) 20:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Yuh I'll go with that plan. I hate vandals in all capacities- being a rail enthusiast I hate them for what they do to trains and now what they do to wikipedia. Speaking of administrators I really want to become one but can't suss the self-nominating system. User:Tom walker 23:09

hey

i don't like you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hey girlz (talk • contribs)

Cool. That's not really relevant to anything though. --Chris (talk) 06:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Royal rumble editing

i do not appreciate you saying i am a vandle

i think what i done was the right thing to do

if yah dont want me doing it, dont put in the bloody edit button

during the war, i fought for freedom of speech

thats all i have to say

IM NOT A BLOODY VANDLE

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.1.212 (talk • contribs)

Royal rumble editing

i feel hurt

i will cry

anyway the royal rumble page was wrong, so i deletedf it, cause it was wrong

i took out my anger o the the page

it said rey was 5'3" ,,,, but he is really 5 ft 6 in (168 cm)

so it is your own fault for putting folse information on your website

- rattle_1195@hotmail.com

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.1.212 (talk • contribs)

When did I say it was mine? --Chris (talk) 04:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

You should be appreciating me for fixing 'your' website IM GOING TO BED

if you hav any questions, feel free to speak to my layer george bush (who was a male cheerleader at yale university)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.1.212 (talk • contribs)

Aaron Austin

Hi Chris,

My name is Eric Weaver aka Aaron Austin. I was informed that Wikipedia contained MY life information. Although I think Wiki is a great site and great idea, I am desperately trying to leave that part of my life in the PAST. Almost everything your site about me is true...ALMOST.

Would it be at all possible to leave that info about porn and stuff OFF of your site? My wife and I have 4 kids and a lot of family now, most of which surf the net.

I know what you're saying....I shouldn't have done this stuff then. Well, I was young and needed the money. It served a purpose for 3 years and now the industry is exploiting my name and likeness forever.

Could you please delete the porn info about me? Maybe I can put up "good" stuff about me instead.

I would appreciate you thinking about this for me.

Thanks,

Eric Weaver

getfitwitheric@aol.com

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.3.93 (talk • contribs)

If the information is verifiable and properly sourced then Wikipedia has every right to publish the information. However, I was not involved in the authorship of the article in question, I only undid your blanking of the article. If you would like to have information removed, you might ask at the article's talk page. However please note that Wikipedia is not legally obligated to remove information that can be proven. --Chris (talk) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Recent Vandal

Much appreciated - I just wasn't keeping up with him!! Thanks -- Nigel 09:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

VandalSniper is alerting me the moment he makes an edit... makes cleaning up pretty easy. =) --Chris (talk) 09:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Still appreciate it - good to have you around. For future info what is the best way for dealing with this kind of stuff - no rush for the answer but it might help me in the futre. Cheers -- Nigel 09:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Revert, warn, and WP:AIV. A reversion tool may make the job easier. --Chris (talk) 09:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure but he was moving faster than me (and I'm not sure how popular it is to let mewbies have tools/bots - tho he did up my edit count!). Also I guess I reckoned a warning was a waste of time in the circumstances? -- Nigel 09:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you will need to establish yourself before most people will let you use such tools. Warnings are usually a good idea, as admins checking WP:AIV will often not block unwarned users, on WP:AGF. --Chris (talk) 09:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Info appreciated Chris as well as the assistance. Hope the rest of your day goes well. Cheers -- Nigel 09:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Huh?

I didnt do anything wrong. Stop dissing me. --Piugmene 10:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

This is pretty obvious. --Chris (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Userpage

No problem, now blocked. Happy editing :-) --Cactus.man ✍ 12:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

RfA

Hey, I just wanted to thank you for your conduct in the RfA. I don't think I want to support this time, but your contributions are awesome. I really can't think of a reason to oppose. Anyway, hang in there man. alphaChimp ^laudare 17:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate your comments. I'm not offended by your neutral vote, and I understand your reasons. --Chris (talk) 17:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Lapinmies/Eon8

look m8, that page was deleted and that is a copy that is not allowed on here ok? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.200.12 (talk • contribs)

thank you my brother —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.200.12 (talk • contribs)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page, I didn't notice! --Scienceman123 19:38, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

All in a day's work. =) --Chris (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Wolf Blitzer headline

The edit should not have been reversed. This is not an experiment and not a hoax. He was not born in Buffalo, he was born in Augsburg Germany. His parents are Holocaust survivors and they emigrated to the US when he was 2+ years old. I've known him since he was 13 and I was 8 when he came to Israel for the first time with his parents and his sister. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.228.238 (talk • contribs)

Can you cite a reliable source on that? Just because it's something you know doesn't mean we can accept it -- you need to show sources that back you up. --Chris (talk) 04:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

RE:VandalSniper

Hi Chris! Thanks for giving me permission to use your program. Unfortunately for me, I use Windows and am unable to try out VandalSniper just yet. I am eagerly awaiting the Windows release so be sure to let me know! Thanks again! hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 16:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Technically the "Windows release" will be identical to the current release, with the exception of an extra .dll. However, GTK+ 2.8 is not available on Windows yet, so I can only wait for that to become available. --Chris (talk) 16:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)