User talk:Citracyde
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Hi. I watch the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam page and saw your comment:
- I started my short wikipedia career trying to write a few articles (probably what most would consider stubs and did not fair too well with my fellow wikipedians) ... I'll have to contribute another way, I guess.
Don't take this stuff too hard -- I got lots of stuff reversed early on. We can definitely use your help -- there are some suggestions above. Also, check out User:SuggestBot
If you click on each of the bold links above ("Verify", "Wikify", etc.), you'll see what kind of help that list needs. There's stuff there for link-fiddlers, article researchers, fight-stoppers, etc.
Again, welcome! --A. B. 02:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'll sneak a note in here too. I appreciate your openess with regard to the external links, etc. It sounds like you do not have a conflict of interest and I don't see a problem with you continuing to edit the kinds of articles you have been as well as exploring other interests here on Wikipedia. JonHarder 03:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, 1) I can't look at IP's, and 2) I can't see the talk page of the article, because it's been deleted already. You'll have to contact the admin that deleted the article. Just in the future though, you might want to consider adding information on the social context/importance of the brand, rather than just a list of where to buy it, and a link to the company's website. That would make it look less like an ad. Make sure to cite reliable sources when establishing notability of the brand. Leuko 02:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yikes! Hang in there and don't get discouraged. We still need you. If you want to start a new article and you're afraid of it getting immediately deleted before you can get enough written to justify its existence, try one of the tags at Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance#Articles undergoing major edits to buy you an hour or two. Lucky 6.9 deleted your article -- he may be able to conjure it back up if you want to keep working on it. --A. B. 03:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Or what you can do is just hit "Show Preview" until you are satisfied with the page, and then hit "Save Page" for the final submission. Leuko 03:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Another way to create an article, and I have used this for a couple I have done, is in your own workspace. For example you could create User:Citracyde/Hause of Howe and edit to your hearts content and no one should bother it. Then when it is complete, either use the move feature to put it in place, or copy and paste the whole content into a new article. You will want to look at the WP:CORP criteria which is what editors look for to establish whether a company is sufficiently notable to have an article. I hope this helps! JonHarder 03:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Does it really matter? An articles significance is in the eye of the beholder. Regardless if I write a 30 page term paper that 900,000,000 out of 1 billion people would eventually visit and find useful/interesting, it always stands the chance of being deleted by someone whom does not understand the significance. Thanks for the suggestion Jon, but I always here this site as being touted as a collaborative community. A basic (not completely in-depth) article should be the incentive for someone to collaboratively improve it...right? I really think its a no-win situation here. Like I said before, even if I wrote this article with the perfect length and provide tons of sources, it would still look like I work for them to someone on this site. --Citracyde 03:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Hang in there. Don't jump. Don't go all Eeyore on us. You've now got 3 sympathetic editors -- Leuko, JonHarder and myself -- trying to help. Jon's advice is probably the best. Nobody's out to get you.
- As for the lost 20 minutes of your life that you mentioned on my talk page, I can't do much about that. Personally, I lose many chunks of time that are much bigger than that! --A. B. 03:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I think I'll just do what A.B. suggested and try doing minor stuff here. No articles. I don't dare touch the lack of mergers and acquisition content you have here (despite my career experience in the field) here, because no doubt someone will just delete it too. --Citracyde 03:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)