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Thanks

Thanks for your help with the sock puppet on my user talk page. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Unassessed orchid genera

I know you've been doing a lot of work over several monthstackling the unassessed article backlog for WikiProject Plants, and was glad to see you started up again the other day. A lot of the remaining unassessed genus articles are on orchids, and most of these are listed as having no accepted species in The Plant List/WCSP. Some of these genera may have accepted species that are currently treated by WCSP as unresolved, or the genus may be best treated as a synonym. I've been holding off on assessing these since I'm not sure what the status of them is, and figuring it out would involve some time spent in reasearch. Maybe it's best to worry about the taxonomic status of the genus later and simply go ahead with assessment; it's certainly appropriate to rate these articles as Low importance Stubs. Anyway, carry on with the assessment, but I though I should explain why I'd skipped assessing these. You may also come across a few unassessed articles on species that aren't that aren't treated as accepted by The Plant List/WCSP. Plantdrew (talk) 16:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Title/style confusion help

I don't know how to deal with this one: Talk:Andrew Lloyd Webber#Title/style confusion DBD 23:05, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

GLAM Cafe invitation

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Pitfour estate

Hi, I noticed you edited Pitfour estate a short while ago, altering the sentence about the son of Robert II. I have just checked the source, the Blenheim of Buchan book, and it states it was Alexander, Lord of Badenoch and earl of Buchan and Ross. Do you have a different source? Any help or clarification would be much appreciated as the information about that time frame of the estate I have is a bit sketchy. Thanks. SagaciousPhil - Chat 20:06, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message - I replied on my talk page but as I'm not sure if you're watching it, I'm just leaving a note here too! SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:49, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

High Sheriff of Lincolnshire

Hi. I noticed that you added dates to High Sheriff of Lincolnshire (28 October 2013), as dmy form. Do you think it would be better to add them something at least like 1668 (6 November):, so keeping the look of the common list style throughout the article, and consistent for the reader ? Acabashi (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your response on my talk page - I have responded there. Acabashi (talk) 23:10, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the copy edit

Hi, thanks for the copy editing you've done to a couple of the Melbourne tram depot articles. It's always nice to have a second set of eyes read over what in reality is a draft; I find it takes a couple of days after writing to pick up all your own little mistakes. I've changed a few things just because the Vicsig source is a little too brief about the privatisation process, which is unnecessarily complicated. I'll try to rewrite the rest of the depot articles in the next few weeks and would appreciate it if you gave them a look over too. Thanks again, Liamdavies (talk) 03:04, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Adiantum viridimontanum

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Adiantum viridimontanum, commonly known as Green Mountain maidenhair fern, is a rare fern found only in outcrops of serpentine rock in New England and Canada. It is named after the site of its discovery in the Green Mountains in Vermont; it has since been located in Quebec and in one site on serpentine in coastal Maine. Until 1991, it was grouped with the western maidenhair fern A. aleuticum, which itself was classified as a variety of the northern maidenhair fern A. pedatum. It was then established that A. viridimontanum was a hybrid species and that the other two ferns were distinct species, although it is difficult to distinguish between the three species in the field. Due to the limited distribution of A. viridimontanum and its similarity to other species, little is known of its ecology. It thrives on sunny, disturbed areas where ultramafic rock is covered with thin soil, such as road cuts, talus slopes, and asbestos mines. Individual plants seem long-lived, and new individuals only infrequently reach maturity. It is one of four species endemic to serpentine in eastern North America and is considered globally threatened due to its habitat restrictions. (Full article...)

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Congratulations! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:54, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Plants assessment and a request

Looks like we've both been busy recently and have moved on from assessing for class/importance for WikiProject Plants tagged articles. I came across several articles today via Catscan that you'd put the WikiProject Plants banner on minutes before I tried to. I'd like see the Start/Unassessed Importance and Unassessed Class/Unassessed Importance articles finished off, but I'm progressing slowly on assessment as the remainder have some issues I'd like to address first. In several cases, the major issue I see is that I can't make a move to a more appropriate title (e..g. a common name titled article that should be a DAB/SIA for multiple species). Would you be willing to consider making some moves I suggest? List of plant species known as snakeroot was recently importance assessed, but I'd been leaving it unassessed deliberately, pending a potential move to Snakeroot (Ageratina doesn't seem like a slam dunk redirect target for the term "snakeroot"). Could you make this move? Plantdrew (talk) 06:27, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for making the snakeroot move. I'm about to go to bed, but will suggest some other moves in the morning. One more for now, would you consider moving Water hyacinth to Eichhornia, and redirecting "water hyacinth" to Eichhornia crassipes? E. crassipes is a globally significant invasive species and by far the most common referent of the term "water hyacinth". I'll propose water hyacinth for a formal Requested Move if you're not comfortable making the move unilaterally, but will be suggesting further moves in the morning that need a mop and bucket unless you tell me not to bother you. Plantdrew (talk) 07:29, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm watching your talk page, so we can keep the conversation here if you'd like. Could you move Golden cereus to Bergerocactus? Wikipedia's article title seems to be the major force behind use of "Golden cereus"; yet it still has fewer Google results than the scientific name. USDA Plants calls it "golden snakecactus", Calflora calls it "golden spined cereus". It's not a significant plant outside of botany and succulent enthusiasts (who aren't going to be scared off by a scientific name).

Move Foxtail pine to Pinus balfouriana. Rare plant with limited distribution. Not important outside of botany, vernacular name not commonly used.

I haven't yet looked back at Wikispecies since I commented. I suppose I should...sigh...not feeling very hopeful. Plantdrew (talk) 04:41, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Using dates with authority

I recalled an edit you made to Cymopterus basalticus a few months ago in which you stated not to use the date with the authority. I was wondering if you could point me to any guidelines in the MOS or any projects that relate to this. Thanks Fredlyfish4 (talk) 03:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I mostly edit animal articles, which may explain the differences why I never noticed articles without dates. Fredlyfish4 (talk) 04:36, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Asplenium × boydstoniae

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Precious

plants and British peers
Thank you, scientist, for quality articles on plants that we easily overlook, such as Adiantum viridimontanum (suggested as FA exactly two years ago), for raising curiosity about them (DYK, above), for countless biographies on British peers, "concentrating on making proper succession boxes and assigning categories", including translations and planning more, for your modest user page and for reflecting our role in general, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 675th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Six years ago, you were recipient no. 675 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Pearce (British Army officer)

Hi, it would help me to know exactly what it was you did not like which brought about your edit with the comment "clean up succession box". Please would you let me know. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 00:13, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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Seasonal greetings

	Merry Christmas and best wishes for a happy, healthy and productive 2014!
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Nomination of Charles McLaren, 4th Baron Aberconway for deletion

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Thanks, and could you make a couple moves for me?

Thank you for the barnstar. Thank you also for tagging the last few days of new plant articles. I'd been falling behind. Can you do a few moves for me? The first three are ones I'd been avoiding assessing (and the last showed up as a reverted move in the assessment log recently) . It was easy to keep track of them as being mistitled in the now relatively short list of unassessed articles, but you did the Kleinia a couple days ago and I did Cream nut several weeks ago.

• Senecio kleinia->Kleinia neriifolia. The Plant List has it as Kleinia. The article has it as Kleinia in the taxobox and text (contrary to the title). I don't see any reason to keep it as Senecio.

• Cream nut->Lecythis pisonis. Not a plant that is well known to English speakers by any common name. I suspect most English speakers who've heard a common name for it know a Portuguese name, not "cream nut". I get more Google hits for "cream nut"+Bertholletia than "cream nut"+Lecythis. If you make the move to L. pisonis, I'll turn Cream nut into a set index for multiple plants known by that common name.

• London Pride (plant)->Saxifraga × urbium 1 of 4 plants listed at London Pride. Common name is ambiguous. I'm not a fan of using a hybrid scientific name when a common name is available (too many possible variant forms with spacing and the characters x/×/X), but there's really no way to make the common name work here.

• Microbiota->Microbiota decussata, Microbiota (disambiguation)->Microbiota. Ambiguous term. ~75% of the incoming links to the article on the genus Microbiota intend Microbiota (microbiology). Although monotypic genera are usually at the genus name title, WP:FLORA suggests using the binomial as the title when the genus name is ambiguous.

I'm excited about getting close to getting all the plant articles assessed (well, except for the massive number of stubs tagged as unassessed importance and the continual stream of new articles). I think we've pretty much caught all the existing articles on plant species and higher taxa. There are probably a couple thousand articles on plant cultivars, plant pathogens, or botanists that haven't been tagged for WikiProject Plants. I'm not sure I'm going to work much on tagging those. I've tagged a few categories recently, but there are at least 1600 untagged Categories relevant to Plants Project. The benefit of tagging Categories seems pretty low.

What do you think should be done with Damascus rose water? Should it redirect to Rosa × damascena (as it does now) or rose water? Should it be tagged for WP Plants? Should it be tagged instead for the projects that have tagged Talk:Rose water? Plantdrew (talk) 04:45, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

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hello. since you are an editor of the article Ammar ibn Yasir, would you be interested in voting for it to make it a featured article or not? thank you for your time Grandia01 (talk) 13:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Bellomont/Bellamont

I see you are working on this but we seem to have a very unsatisfactory issue over the title. I have commented on the article talk.Garlicplanting (talk) 12:48, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Zoransky and Compagnons

THX a lot for your effort to dig out this snakepit or sockpuppets, made up back-up publications and whatnot. It is really incredible how this thing turned out to be. I first believed it to be some American who might have wanted to create some hoax nobility backround for his own family, first publishing an article on the Zoranskys in English, backed up by hoax German literature and then either using a Sockpuppet or waiting for someone else to translate it into German and get the German article started. Those fake back-up books were of such a bad linguistic quality, filled with mistakes, that there was no chance they were written by a German native or even someone who knew a thing or two about tha language. Right now our admins ad Wikipedia Germany are also checking one of the users who brought the Martin V. Zoransky article to our wiki whether he was a willing collaborator or the mastermind behind this. I honestly don't believe he was behind this, since there were just too many faults in those fake German publications. Additional to that: its also an issue for Google books AND Amazon, since some of those fake back-up publications like this and that too are a hoax and never existed. So basically Amazon is offering books at a high price that never existed and can never be sold. This thing is big! THX again for your help! LagondaDK (talk) 09:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Threston-Hoax

I thought you might like to know about my latest update on the Threston-case: Its really incredible ... I mean ... honestly ... I just can't get my head around it ... "T.R. Threston" is a HOAX! All right already, she does have an elaborate facebook-page, Twitter account, mentioning in annual report of whatever club of travel writers, all uploaded from somewhere, non-valid ISBN and very dodgy, but now finally there is proof that "T.R. Threston" is completely made up! Not even her photoes ar real! That photo from her facebook-"fan" page? Fake! The one from her wordpress page? Fake! Her Twitter? All are fake! You are asking for proof? Well ... lets take the pic from her facebook-fan page for a minute and compare it to this photo of Jessica Alba at Toronto Film Festival 2007. Please note the people in the background ... LagondaDK (talk) 21:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Non succeeding heirs

I take your point - though I suggest there are a very small minority of articles where such heirs are in the list. Personally I think the list is for holders - the article body for biography - but if you want to bring it up on the project to seek views I have no objection. Garlicplanting (talk) 13:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Hot blast and coke

I checked my notes and made corrections. The reference was referring to using lower quality coal. Phmoreno (talk) 20:03, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Oxford Vice-Admiral?

Could you give me a ref on this? I'm unable to find anything at all. I see that the original ref was HCA 25/1, pt. 1 f. 79, which I take to be some kind of manuscript reference, which would be OR unless it's published. Tom Reedy (talk) 03:20, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks. Tom Reedy (talk) 04:39, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Pick your brain.

As I rarely get involved in page renaming I could do with a hand or advice. For obvious reasons the article at John_Jacob_Astor_VIII should be at its original location and was moved without consensus this present location. Using undo on the edit earlier this year will doubtless create a mess. Garlicplanting (talk) 11:58, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Humphry Morice

Hi Choess,

I noticed that you reverted my move of Humphry Morice (the elder) to Humphry Morice, with the edit summary "distinguish from his son, also an MP". I find the current situation problematic for several reasons. Firstly, there is no Wikipedia article about Morice's son, and, per our guidelines on disambiguation, we only disambiguate between existing articles, not potential ones. Secondly, as far as I can tell, the Humphry Morice we already have an article about is more notable than the one we don't have an article about, largely because of the former's station as Governor of the Bank of England. As such, the article we already have would be considered the primary target even if we did have an article about his son. Furthermore, since there was no redirect left behind in the move, people who type "Hymphry Morice" into the search bar and press enter will not be brought to the only article we have about someone by that name. For these reasons, would you be willing to let me move the article back to Humphry Morice?

Neelix (talk) 15:18, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Choess,

I have created the disambiguation page, as you suggested, as well as the article about the other Morice, in order to satisfy the guideline. I have also given the articles disambiguators that indicate how these individuals were best known rather than how they were related to each other. I hope these changes meet with your satisfaction.

Neelix (talk) 20:56, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Midzemuthleiy etc

I see Google Earth has a facility to tell them about errors. I plan to do that about Midzemuthleiy and the rest, but I think I will wait till they have been deleted here, so that we don't get into a "but it's in WIkipedia" loop. JohnCD (talk) 18:29, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Azimuth

...has been dePRODded. Sigh. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azimuth, Delaware. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 20:32, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal greetings

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Adam Nicolson

Maybe, but for peers who have not disclaimed their titles, common practice is that whether or not they use them, they are referred to with them at the lede. WP:COMMONNAME only works with article titles.--The Theosophist (talk) 23:14, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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History of Parliament

That is really good news - thanks! My current project is matching all ~21000 History of Parliament entries to Wikidata. At the moment, I've got confirmed matches for ~1700 people (~2100 HoP entries, as many people have two/three entries due to their careers spanning the volume breaks) and I'm most of the way to getting the 1707-1801 Parliaments finished.

I'd have to do a little coding and screenscraping over the weekend, but I may be able to autogenerate the citations for all relevant WP pages, allowing us to update them without having to fill them out by hand (and to ensure we cite both volumes where relevant). Would a list like this be of any interest? Andrew Gray (talk) 21:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Cool. Just when I'm thinking "wouldn't it be good if there was a template for HoP so I didn't have to copy all the stuff about each volune every time I cite it," I find that it already exists! Just one suggestion though - I think there should be a wikilink to the History of Parliament article, maybe from where it says "History of Parliament Trust"? Chuntuk (talk) 21:33, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Whew !

Am I ever glad to see that rectified; I just couldn't imagine what you were thinking, since you almost never get anything wrong :) Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Humphrey Mackworth article

Thanks for your very prompt and positive response. I take your point about my reading of the source material but it is there for anyone to read. The only biographical sketch of the subject before was Hilda Johnstone's and that was before anyone really considered it important to accord gay people a presence in history: I was only wanting to make the point that Bampton's words could be read in this way, especially as he so carefully juxtaposes the "dissolute company" with the desirability of marriage, and there's a paucity of other explanations. I don't suppose the reading I've suggested will survive long, but it's worth a try. I suspect the alternative of him simply being a rake would raise few eyebrows. I'm in a similar quandary with Robert Corbet (died 1583), another Shropshire Puritan who was used as a go-between by Sir Philip Sidney in his complicated relationship with Hubert Languet, a roving Huguenot agent and a known homosexual. I will be returning to him soon and I'd appreciate your evaluation. Sjwells53 (talk) 21:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Colors for Template:Infobox televsion season

Hey, Choess. I would be grateful if you would weigh in here: Template talk:Infobox television season#Compromise: a possible way forward. It's to time to resolve this dust-up, and given that the timing of compliance seemed to be the primary hurdle, this would seem to be a reasonable way to resolve what appears to be an unnecessarily prolonged dispute. Thank you for your consideration. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:54, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

That long-running mess

The one I alluded to on Jimbo's page. Not sure we're talking about the same one. I meant Rod Steiger. Did you? Coretheapple (talk) 16:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Arbuthnot of kittybrewster baronets

This page used to have the jpg of both appropriate Arms (Edinburgh and Kittybrewster) shown. Kittybrewster has now been deleted in error. Please would you reinstate it.

Thank you. Kittybrewster ☎ 17:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC) Kittybrewster ☎ 17:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Historic districts on NRHP

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DYK for Isopogon ceratophyllus

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DYK for Isopogon latifolius

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You're amazing

Hi Choess,

Thanks for your comment at User talk:SlimVirgin. Are you a Wizard? You're amazing. It was a sad news on that memorable day when I heard the news. So, I became interested in the topic and gas poisoning. I will consult an expert for cleanup. Honestly, I don't think I did it better. Happy easter. Cheers! Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 02:37, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Could you please be more careful...

Could you please be more careful...

You made a good faith reverted of this edit.

Guidelines recommend not rewriting perfectly good references. I don't rewrite references, without reason.

This article has a lot of bad references -- references that merely contain bare urls, references with important missing information -- like the article title.

When I fix them, I do so in the way I think is least disruptive to contributors who want to see how the editorial content of the article has changed. I don't add linefeeds, because linefeeds are so important to the diff engine. I do, sometimes, change crappy bare-url refs to fully populated {{cite}} templates. I prefer one field per line, so I write them that way. But I put them at the end, within the {{Reflist}} template in the references section.

I think you didn't look at the diff I did closely enough to recognize that I didn't remove the reference at all. Geo Swan (talk) 03:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

• Never mind. I guess you figured it out on your own. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:57, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

70,000 Character Petition

Yes, there are indeed improper use of templates as well as plenty of other problems over at 70,000 Character Petition, and I welcome your improvements there. But as this is a brand new translation and still has all sorts of cruft left over from the translation tool (as indicated both by the edit summaries and by the {{in use}} banner at the top) I'm making wholesale edits in spurts. Please check with me by pinging me at Talk:70,000 Character Petition before making edits, so I don't inadvertently or on purpose have to wipe out intervening edits because of ongoing fixes to the infrastructure, which admittedly, still needs a lot of it. Happy to collaborate with you, just keep me in the loop before jumping in, unless you can be in and out real fast and don't mind the risk of possibly getting stepped on. Mathglot (talk) 03:35, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Chamberlain of the Exchequer

Hi - I was toying with the idea of creating the Chamberlain of the Exchequer article and found your list of Chamberlains, last amended 2008. Were you planning to go back to it? Would you mind if I used your list in my article? Is there a citation I could associate with the data? Plucas58 (talk) 20:29, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

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Graham Wellesley, 8th Earl Cowley

Hi Choess, I saw that you recently edited Graham Wellesley, 8th Earl Cowley. I've drafted an expanded version in my userspace here, which goes into some more detail on his early life and his career. The current version states that he was 'forced to resign' as chief executive of IFX, which neither of those sources support and which isn't reported anywhere as far as I can see. Three of the articles I've used aren't online and I've put them in storage on the talk page of this draft. If you could take a look and let me know what you think I'd be very grateful. Note that I have a COI in this case – as stated on my userpage I am a PR representative and Graham Wellesley is my client. Many thanks. HOgilvy (talk) 22:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Molony baronets enrollment

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Fern automatic taxoboxes

I'd like to help you with fern automatic taxoboxes, but don't know quite what you had in mind doing and where others could help. Are you intending to replace taxoboxes with automatic taxoboxes down to a particular rank or working within a particular clade? Are you interested in working on the taxonomy template framework following PPG and wanting assistance converting articles to using the automatic system? What exactly do you want to do and how can I help? Plantdrew (talk) 02:06, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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Vassals of the Kingdom of Jerusalem

I know this is a long shot, but can you cast your mind back 13 years (and 3 days) to this edit? Back then, we (and that includes me) weren't expected to provide a full EB1911 citation, but I'm trying to modernize these. I can't find a unique EB1911 article that maps to the descriptions on this page, but s:1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Crusades refers to many of the same institutions and events, in section 4. WP doesn't directly copy that article except for a few random phrases, so I intend to replace the raw {{1911}} with a {{Cite EB1911}} referring to that section 4. Finally, s:Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem (1099-1291) is also a potential reference. If you have any other thoughts, it'd be welcome. David Brooks (talk) 19:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

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Dear Choess. Thanks for your corrections. I was very wrong. You taught me a lesson. Of course, I still wonder why he did not want to use his title of Baronet? Do you have other comments and advice? I am still quite inexperienced. With many thanks again, Johannes. Johannes Schade (talk) 21:14, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

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Catalan Company

Hello Choess, I don't know which English sources have you used, Catalan company is the neologism, basically it is fictional history. The almogavares existed for a long time before Roger de Flor's expedition and were always composed from people of diverse origin. Roger de Flor was an Italian himself and the almogavares included Aragonese, Valencian, Catalan, Navarrese, Italian, French and even Asturian and Galician. Quite typical of a mercenary force. All these people had the same "ethnic" origin, they all were European white people. There is no Catalan ethnicity, the same way there was no independent Catalan expedition. You can check this source, for instance, there are many others, most in Spanish: Rufino Blanco-Fombona y, «Motivos y letras de España. II. La epopeya bizantina de los almogávares», en Rafael Ramón Castellanos (ed.), Ensayos históricos, Caracas, Biblioteca Ayacucho, 1981, pág. 333. ISBN 978-84-660-0003-1.

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Bit verbose, but the essence was absolutely spot on! KJP1 (talk) 22:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hairy/hoary false cloak fern

I'm not finding any internet sources that call Argyrochosma incana "hoary false cloak fern" aside from Wikipedia mirrors. "Hairy false cloak fern" however is used on many websites, and ""hairy falsecloak fern" is used on a handful. USDA PLANTS presents the hairy version as the vernacular name, and PLANTS names are widely copied across the internet. I suspect PLANTS is responsible for the popularity of hairy, and PLANTS does sometimes have blatant errors in their vernacular names (most glaring one I've seen was "Benjamin Franklin bush" for a plant that was described by Benjamin Franklin Bush (botanist), but somewhere along the way somebody got confused and thought it was a shrub named after Benjamin Franklin). And PLANTS does frequently generate their vernacular names by translating species epithets into English. It's certainly plausible that "hairy" is a misspelling of a translation of incana. However, is there any possibility that another part of the plant could reasonably be described as hairy; perhaps the rhizome scales? Do you have a non-online source that calls it "hoary"? Is "hairy" not a reasonable description in any way? If "hoary" can't be sourced and "hairy" is misleading, it would probably be best to not mention either of these names. Plantdrew (talk) 02:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I originally thought it was a citogenic error on our part from a 2013 rewrite of the list of Sonoran desert flora, but it may have been an error in USDA Plants. Of the sources they cite, the only one likely to be authoritative for a common name is Lellinger 1985, which calls it "hoary cloak fern" (he had not yet recognized the segregation of Argyrochosma, the "false cloak ferns", from Notholaena, the "true" cloak ferns). I was just sitting down to write them and ask them to correct it on that basis. I'll let you know how that goes. Choess (talk) 02:46, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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