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Hello

Is it possible if you can make the house structure of the House of Representatives of the Philippines and the Senate of the Philippines of the upcoming 15th Congress of the Philippines. Rizalninoynapoleon (talk) 09:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello Rizalninoynapoleon. I'm sorry that I don't have time to contribute to Wikipedia at the moment. I expect that you will get a helpful reply if you make a request at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop. Good luck. Certes (talk) 16:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I am the resident of Galma Village and doing Mishrasudhakar (talk) 13:22, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Btech Mishrasudhakar (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello Mishrasudhakar and welcome to Wikipedia. Help:Getting started has lots of links to useful information, or if you get stuck just ask someone. Good luck with the Btech! Certes (talk) 18:17, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, we know what a tree is

This user is the proud winner of a Silliest wikilink of the month award.

- Winner for March 2010[1]. Ceoil (talk) 22:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Trading card game

We're wrapping up the democratic rules approval process. Please see Wikipedia:Trading card game/Action plan/Phase 1:Rules/Rules approval‎ and review the ruleset. If no changes are made to it within 7 days, then we will proceed next week with the card nomination and approval process.

If you are no longer interested in helping out with the project, please remove your name from the participants list.

Thanks! Bob the Wikipedian ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, Bob. I've removed my name as I'm currently inactive but I wish you well and hope you can use some of my ideas. Certes (talk) 21:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I know you've declared you're inactive with the project now, but we'd like to show our appreciation for those who have so far contributed significantly by offering the MVP's of the design process the opportunity to select one nonfeatured article to appear in the trading card game. Your name is on our list of MVP's. Please propose it here. Bob the Wikipedian ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:21, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Done but do leave it out if the pack is full, as others have contributed much more. Certes (talk) 23:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Suggesting an article and requesting research from other users

I was not sure where to submit a draft article for further research by other users so that it could eventualy be included as an article. There are notable sources for it, and there was a brief news report on CNN on it in 2010. I also was not sure what classification it should be categorized under. It is an acedemic program that has completed, and it has significance as there has been new technology invented there that will probably contribute to the world in the future. The 2 colleagues that did the research work in the program are degreed college graduates. It is something that should be followed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikebeckbeck (talk • contribs) 11:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello Mike and welcome to Wikipedia. I can see that you are making a constructive addition; we just need to find the best place for it and the right format. It's not my field so I can't help directly, but you should get some useful advice from one of the WikiProjects listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Science, possibly Wikipedia:WikiProject Robotics. Meanwhile, you can create a temporary subpage beneath your user page, such as User:Mikebeckbeck/Project Home 2011. There it can be edited like a normal page, and it can easily be moved to a permanent home when it's ready. Good luck and thanks for persevering. Certes (talk) 12:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Finally!

It's been over a year since you designed all those DYK medals, and I finally won one. It looks great! People have responded very well to them. Thanks again for contributing in this manner. Binksternet (talk) 00:47, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

File:David Platt (director).jpg

Aha. Thanks for letting me know! I'm just surprised it took three years for someone to notice.
Ulmanor (talk) 05:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Request

Certes, mind checking this image. Could you clean it up a little - making sure white is really white. Also, could you also add a transparent background? Could you send a .png image to my email: (redacted, see page history). Thanks. Jaime 070996 22:30, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello Jaime. I'm sorry but that's not really my field. If the image is not copyrighted, or is for fair use, the best thing is to upload the best version you have to Wikipedia or Commons, then click the "make a request" link at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop. Good luck. Certes (talk) 22:37, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I have one at File:Elsalvador.png, but it has some issues at the edges of the image. The image is for fair use, as it explains at the file page. But, thanks for the link! Regards. Jaime 070996 22:49, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

dabs

i usually go back and repair the links sometimes it is infeasible in a single setting and then sometimes i will forget anyway i hope that the changes are in a positive direction — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.170.229 (talk) 21:25, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Conservative Christianity

There is no consensus to make it a dab page yet - and the large number of very difficult dablinks makes me think it needs to be an article. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conservative Christianity. St Anselm (talk) 20:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I skimmed that discussion but I don't know the topic well enough to contribute. I think it confirms the decision to ensure everyone knows the potential problems and let the specialists solve them if and when they arise. Certes (talk) 20:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Bluefin tuna (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion

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Hey Certes, sorry but I had overlooked your message while traveling. This is a very odd case! Apparently, when the article was (incorrectly) tagged for deletion, it lost its redirect status:

mysql> select * from page where page_title='Bluefin_tuna_(disambiguation)' and page_namespace=0\G
         page_id: 34292481
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      page_title: Bluefin_tuna_(disambiguation)
page_is_redirect: 0
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Normally, this wouldn't affect DPL bot, but since the redirect creation and tagging both happened before DPL bot's next daily run, the bot was fooled into thinking of this as an article and sending you a message. It's the first I've seen of this; I'm hoping it will be rare enough so I don't have to code around it. I'll keep my eyes open for it, though. Thanks for letting me know. --JaGa^talk 04:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. If it is so rare then let's just ignore it. As I said on your talk page, the real problem is a clash between a MediaWiki technical limit and a Wikipedia guideline: #Redirect only works at the start of the page, but our convention is to put certain templates at the start of the page above #Redirect. Certes (talk) 11:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

New Navbox

Thanks for the new navbox eg for Category:Alaska elections, 2010 which can I see be adjusted to various spacings eg every two years (even years) for most US state (and national) elections, but occasionally for a special or local election an odd year eg Category:Alabama elections, 2009. Should its avaliability be notified on a US Politics project page? New Zealand has a three year election cycle so they can be in odd or even years. Hugo999 (talk) 22:49, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know how the US Politics project teams work, but if this would interest them then please let them know about it. There's nothing in the template specific to the USA or to politics. The template works for New Zealand with ...|3}}} but not for cases such as UK general elections with no pattern. I could wrap every year in #ifexist but this is an expensive parser function. More importantly, it would show a varying number of years, e.g. all years from y-5 to y+5 which have articles, which could be 1 or 11. Alternatively I could make the caller specify a list of years manually, but that's a lot of unnecessary work for them. Better ideas welcome. Certes (talk) 23:10, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I have a new version in test. Please have a look at User:Certes/CTY test and its source code, and let me know whether that is what is needed. Unfortunately it does require a total of seven templates, because recursion is not supported in MediaWiki. Certes (talk) 05:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

If we do roll this out then I'd like to make a few changes first. Is the second row of links to Category:2010 etc. actually useful? If not then there's no need to limit these templates to years: they can serve any numbered sequence. There's no need to limit them to categories either: we can have a flexible but complex template for general use, called by an easily used template that only handles year categories. I would also reorganise things internally by renaming the sub-templates (which no one will call directly) and giving the parameters mnemonic names rather than numbers. Certes (talk) 19:15, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the new version with redlink years suppressed looks fine, although the appearance of redlinks is useful eg to check whether there is now a requirement for a new category for say future elections in 2013 & 2014; many creators don’t add the new categories required for a new article! And see Category:Puerto Rican elections, 2004 where using 2003 not 2004 means that the category for the year 2000 is shown, which aids going to the earlier year. See also for the new navbox Category:United States mayoral elections, 2010. And I don’t think that the bottom line showing the main year cat is particularly useful, so could be made more general! Hugo999 (talk) 01:09, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

There's a choice to be made here.

Option 1 is like the current {{Cat topic year}}. The editor must specify the years to be shown, either as an explicit list or as parameters to an algorithm like "step by N years, three times each way". You get exactly what you ask for, including appropriate redlinks, but it's a lot of work and needs the author to check (or know) for which years target categories/articles should exist.
Option 2 is like the experimental User:Certes/Cat topic year. The template works everything out. It's less work for editors, has less scope for mistakes and automatically updates when new pages appear (even for unexpected elections off the normal schedule). On the down side, you never get redlinks even where a human would consider them obvious.

Which do you prefer? Is there a middle way with the advantages of both?

By the way, my version would fail for Puerto Rico: 2003 would be bold, not a link. I took a short cut by assuming the current page is for the given year. It's easily fixed. Certes (talk) 19:22, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Carla Körbes

Thank you for fixing the Körbes and Korbes redirects. — Robert Greer (talk) 23:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

You're very welcome. I also noticed that Chalnessa Eames, Miranda Weese and Weese redirect to Pacific Northwest Ballet, but those dancers aren't listed in that article or at http://www.pnb.org/Artists/. (Maybe they moved on.) Can you think of somewhere more appropriate to point them? Certes (talk) 00:03, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps PNB could have a Former principal dancers section, as do many other companies. Otherwise Miranda Weese will need to be upgraded from a redirect into an article (she was a principal at NYCB befofre PNB.) I don't know anything about Chalnessa Eames. — Robert Greer (talk) 00:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Recognizability poll

Certes, since you participated in a previous poll on the wording of the "recognizability" provision in WT:TITLE, your perspective would be valued in this new poll that asks a somewhat different question: WT:TITLE#Poll to plan for future discussion on Recognizability. – Dicklyon (talk) 05:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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Mullingar

There has been another libellous edit to Mullingar, which I have reverted. The only way to deal with this is vigilant watching of the page. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 02:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Jack! That one's relatively mild - almost complimentary - and definitely a different vandal. There are regular attempts to turn the page into a eulogy to Niall Horan but they're only going in one direction: the revert bin. Let's hope the protection keeps the more serious vandal at bay too. Certes (talk) 11:53, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, Certes!

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Coordinate data

Don't worry about it, you aren't getting in my way, (infact, you're helping me if anything) I just have a habit of putting my coordinates in the format that I do. It would be appreciated if you could put the coordinates in my preferred way, but you don't have to if you don't want to.

Category:People from the Pacific Northwest

Thanks for helping to purge Category:People from the Pacific Northwest after I closed the CFD for it. I finished the job with Help:Cat-a-lot, which is an astoundingly quick tool for category work, but does not allow tailored edit summaries.

I noticed that your edit summaries referred to JWB; I haven't come across that before, but will have a look at it! – Fayenatic London 20:58, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for introducing me to Cat-a-lot. That looks quicker, so I'll have a look at it for the future. WP:JWB or its big brother WP:AWB are handy for odd jobs where there's no specific tool. In this case I wanted to look at the articles individually to check that they were in a subcategory. Just one wasn't - details in Category talk:People from the Pacific Northwest‎‎. Certes (talk) 21:19, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for checking them so thoroughly. I'm also very glad to have come across JWB. – Fayenatic London 07:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

IJ

Someone found a full list of pages with 1-or-more words beginning with IJ and put it at User:Nyttend/Article titles with a word starting IJ. Could you create Ij titles for them, too? Of course, once you've done that, I won't need the page, so please leave a note at my talk saying that you're done, and I'll delete it. Nyttend (talk) 11:12, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 12:31, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

JANET NRS

Was e-mail for UK universities actually routed to Czechoslovakia, or were jokes merely made about the possibility. If you assert the former, it would be good to have documentation. Churchh (talk) 01:15, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@Churchh: I don't know! My intention was just to tidy some clumsy wording, but I accidentally changed the meaning. Your version is better, so let's keep that. Thanks for noticing. Certes (talk) 09:05, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Gene Autry

Since Gene Autry was only inducted into the ProRodeo Hall of Fame for being a stock contractor, it's a pretty good bet that he was never a rodeo champion. The hall of fame entry would have mentioned that. I am a member of the wikiprojects that oversee the rodeo articles, and I write rodeo articles too. I added a bit to this article earlier about his hall of fame induction. I could find no rodeo events he participated in as a performer at a professional level. This was on my watchlist but I hadn't gotten to it. You made the right call. The edit saying he a rodeo champion was disruptive. Well, and the number 89 stuck in there was a giveaway as I'm sure you noticed. LOL. dawnleelynn^(talk) 15:56, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

New York RM

I'd like to add User:Certes/New York to Category:New York City and New York State move discussion pages and thought I should ask permission as it's in your user space.

@Andrewa: I'm happy with that but perhaps we should move the page into Talk: space first, so others will feel more free to improve it. Certes (talk) 09:29, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Can't see any reason not to put it into the category first... why does the order matter? Andrewa (talk) 10:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Fair comment. Done. Certes (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Also while I'm here, SmokeyJoe and I are discussing some rephrasing, see Talk:New York/Proposed move#Indexes and moving forward. Andrewa (talk) 02:36, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. I'll reply there. Certes (talk) 09:29, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Or better at Talk:New York/Proposed move#Boldly removed the PT claim... I had a brainwave (or brainsnap, you be the judge) and I dunnit. (It is a draft after all.) Andrewa (talk) 11:27, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

As I said on the talk page, that's a good move towards somewhere we may or may not be heading. Maybe I should now put together a second draft proposal for a primary redirect New York -> NYC, and include your changes in that version. Certes (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

True, but it may also be the best way towards wherever we are heading, perhaps not the most direct route but perhaps the most practical.

I have in view of these comments and others restored your version, and copy-and-pasted my variation to User:Andrewa/New York with no view on PT. Andrewa (talk) 19:49, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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A AWB support request

Hi,

I have placed a AWB support request Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#Correcting_redirection, pl. see if you can take up or recomond some one to take up this request.

Thanks and regards Mahitgar (talk) 09:41, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, Mahitgar. I'll reply on Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#Correcting_redirection, in case anyone else wants to join the conversation. Certes (talk) 12:05, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Reverted edit in List of neighborhoods in Harlem

I saw that your target was the "(without Riverside)" bit because it was promotional, not my cleanup, but I don't see how that really violates WP:NPOV. I think it is more of a clarification to the area specified, but I don't know much about the subject so I don't want to unintentionally start any edit wars. Could you please explain the problem with the content in brackets? The Average Wikipedian (talk) 01:55, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Firstly let me apologise for accidentally rolling back your update. I was reviewing the previous edit and clicked the restore link on the after instead of the before version. I considered leaving you a message but fortunately the edit summaries made my error and correction clear.

My comment about NPOV was referring to the addition of Harlem all day. at the bottom of the page. As for the "(without Riverside)", I couldn't find any sources online to support excluding that part of Hamilton Heights from West Harlem. I don't know the area well and judged that it might be better to roll back the whole edit, especially as similar information had been removed from Riverside Park (Manhattan) and not restored. On reflection I should have assumed good faith on the part of Vnycb. I'll put "(without Riverside)" back in, leaving your latest version without the "Harlem all day" text.

Thank you for picking this up, and sorry again for making work for you. Certes (talk) 11:13, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Harpreet Singh of FC Pune City

I mean, I can't find any information about another one so until one comes out we have no choice but to use the page already created. They are both defenders which is what made me use it and also the fact that he was chosen in the eighth round of the draft, a relatively good round, in which players who have I-League experience were still picked. Who knows, it could be that the source for the birth date on the page (soccerway) has the age wrong. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:19, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Hell, looking at it clearer, the guy who played for Sporting Goa was probably not the 35 year old who played over a decade ago... who knows. Sourcing here is hard to find. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:21, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Good point, so let's leave it as it is for now. Worldfootball has the 34yo not playing for Goa this year; whether he's moved clubs or retired it doesn't say. Certes (talk) 18:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Hey, so an update. FC Pune City just posted this and I noticed that they used the name Harpreet Singh Sahota which made me search it and then I found this. Turns out you are correct, this Harpreet Singh and the other one are different. I am not sure the 35 year old is notable so I think a complete restructure of the article is in order since I think one Harpreet Singh is notable. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 05:24, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh ya, definitely not 35 --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 05:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for taking that trouble. For now I suppose he's in a similar position to Ashique Kuruniyan. Technically we should unlink him but that may change on 3 October if he turns out for a qualifying team. I can't find his exact date of birth, so change to a redlink [[Harpreet Singh Sahota|Singh Sahota]] for now? Certes (talk) 10:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Western film vandal

Thanks for the link to your Western film vandal page. I've been on Wikipedia for years, and yet vandals' targets never cease to surprise me. Trivialist (talk) 22:52, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Selective Jr/Sr changes

Hi, thanks for helping with the WP:JR/SR fixes. During my parallel work of removing the unnecessary commas I've had to create regex checks to avoid changes to |title=, |image=, |quote=, {{sic}}, {{DEFAULTSORT}} (the defaultsorts of the example pages on WP:JR/SR are non-uniform), html link-titles, and the link portion to wikilinks (we'll have to go back and correct all wikilinks to ", Jr/Sr" after the bot request to mass move pages is completed). There may also be a trailing , that may or may not need to be removed, based on context, i.e. when someone "commas-out" the ", Jr.,". Just thought I'd pass my experiences along. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 23:02, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Tom, that's useful. At the moment I'm working through the articles you moved, cleaning up pages which link to or mention the subject with ", Jr.". While I'm in there I'm fixing their other Jr/Sr references, which has led to moving about a dozen other pages. (My edit was about to make another link red; the best solution was to move the page to match the redlink.) I'm adding the pages moved to the end of my checklist. Unfortunately the text before my edits isn't consistent enough for me to press buttons mindlessly; there's a lot of checking. I get the feeling that doing this properly could be a long and slow process, so we'll have to decide how far to go.

One possibility is to add ", Jr." as a typo when not preceded by a known exception. This wouldn't fix everything instantly but could cause corrections to occur gradually as editors deploy AWB and other tools on affected pages for unrelated reasons in future. The tools should make efforts like yours above to avoid applying changes in the wrong context. Certes (talk) 23:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

There are exceptions to the ", Jr." typo, which I haven't really internalized. For the moment, and for that reason, I'm just fixing the straight-forward cases. It would be nice to see it fully fleshed out in WP:AWB/Typos. Perhaps by the time we're done (shouldn't take more than a week, or 2 tops) I/you/we will have a robust-enough search string to add there. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 03:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Charles A. Heimbold, Jr.

I do not think this name belongs on the whitelist. Sources are arbitrary with regard to persons, and may or may not include the comma based on grammatical preference. When quoting/using the source/etc., by all means keep source punctuation, but it should not decide the title of WP page, if it is a person. Sources are not arbitrary when it comes to non-persons, however, and should carry more weight for non-person article titles. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 13:49, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Removed. I came across him in a couple of articles containing the dotless titles you fixed, where a global replace would have turned his link red. As you say, it's a Wikipedia vs. other source difference rather than this subject being special. Certes (talk) 14:36, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Also, more than a few sources do drop his comma. Nothing special about this guy. Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Inorg. Chem.

Hi I was wondering if you could explain the insertion of (journal) after journal=Inorganic Chemistry? and the doi links to the journal. To some extent, the addition of (journal) interferes with folks transcribing citations. But I might be missing something. --Smokefoot (talk) 17:17, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

@Smokefoot: Hi, I'm not a chemist so thanks for checking. The articles I changed had wikilinks to Inorganic chemistry (the general article about that area of science). It seemed obvious from the context that the editors meant to refer to the journal instead, so I changed the links to point to the journal article, whilst still displaying as Inorganic Chemistry (or as Inorg. Chem. where surrounding references use ISO 4 abbreviations). I changed quite a few links, and it's quite possible that I made a mistake or two; is there a particular article that I may have messed up? In particular, if "(journal)" appears on any of the pages (except in the edit box) then I've got it wrong and that change should be fixed or reverted. Certes (talk) 00:26, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your contribution. It is indeed stupid to have the link to the topic vs the journal, so your contributions were helpful. Sometimes I assume mistakes when I should think otherwise. My parents told me that, and I never listened because I thought they were wrong too. --Smokefoot (talk) 00:33, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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Pentarchy

I'd welcome your thoughts on the points I've raised on Template talk:Pentarchy. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:33, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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	For helping me with Template:Stratigraphic column navbox. Abyssal (talk) 14:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Is Paris Burning?

Hello Certes
Thank you for knocking off these links; I came back to find them done! That Disamassist is pretty impressive; it took me about three and a half hours to do what you did in 12 minutes! And (I see) I missed a few. Again, thank you. Regards, Swanny18 (talk) 02:00, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

I tripped over one gotcha: I realised that Dietrich von Choltitz needed a more complicated treatment than DisamAssist could do, so I went back and edited it manually. Unfortunately, DisamAssist still had its incomplete fix in its buffer and, when I closed it, it overwrote what I'd done. All fixed now, I think. Certes (talk) 09:49, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

My apologies: It looks like I messed up that last one with my revert; It really was a long day! Sorry, Swanny18 (talk) 17:41, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Not your fault. I forgot I had two editors open at once, and my second change undid my first. Certes (talk) 17:54, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Chronostratigraphy navbox alignment

Hey, Certes. I've been trying to make some cosmetic tweaks to Template:Chronostratigraphy navbox. My issue is that with complex, well-developed instances of the template (example) the cell widths for different units of time often differ and it looks a bit messy. Is there any way to ensure that all of the cells for periods, epochs, eras, etc have the same width for other time units of the same rank? You did such a good job on this template before that you seemed to be the guy to ask. Abyssal (talk) 16:02, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

You could set groupwidth, but this would have to accommodate the longest possible name, not just the longest one which happens to be in use for this location. Further details: Template:Navbox subgroup/doc#Setting the width of groups. Certes (talk) 16:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

I tried using the code in the section you linked that but I couldn't get it to work. Could you do a few examples for me? The longest period name (Carboniferous) is 13 characters. The longest age name (Changhsingian) also has 13 characters, and the longest epoch name (Upper Ordovician) has 16. Thanks for the help. I'm sure we'll get this template polished up in no time. Abyssal (talk) 16:17, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

@Abyssal: I've had a go in {{Chronostratigraphy navbox/sandbox}}, best viewed by clicking on {{Chronostratigraphy navbox/testcases}}. If that's what was needed, please copy and paste to the main template. I've also moved the subgroup template to match the parent, and made a small change there to enable group widths which should be harmless even if you don't go with the sandboxed version of the main template. Certes (talk) 17:20, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks really good! Abyssal (talk) 17:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

I've been trying to rig the template so that editors can add "abbreviated=yes" to the article-code and have it display shortened versions of the names of various time units. Like "Phanerozoic" -> "Phan." "Mesozoic" -> "Mes." That kind of thing. Do you know how to do that? I've experimented with "if#"s and the "yesno" template and the "if affirmed" template and haven't managed to get them to do anything other than display their default values. Could you help me with this? I'm feeling pretty stupid here. Abyssal (talk) 01:00, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

You're on the right lines; any of those should work if applied correctly. I'm busy today but will have a look tonight. Certes (talk) 11:40, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Certes. I wish I knew what I was doing wrong. I copy-pasted the code and tried to make the relevant substitutions but even that didn't work. Abyssal (talk) 12:54, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

I've had a go for column 1 in the sandbox. I've used #if: for Phanerozoic but {{yesno}} for Precambrian, just to illustrate both. Please pick one and be more consistent than I was! I've used {{!}} to put a pipe symbol into the link without using | which would end the template parameter. I've changed the testcases to have abbreviated=yes. Unfortunately I can't test both at once as it gives a "templates too complex" error, so you'll have to undo my testcases change (or create testcases/full or something) to see that the effect without abbreviated=yes is unchanged. Hope that helps, Certes (talk) 19:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

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I've moved Template:S-line/MINSKMETRO left/Avtozavodskaya to Template:S-line/MINSKMETRO left/Aŭtazavodskaja per your note at WP:VPT. Please let me know if it needs cleanup work on any protected pages. Nyttend (talk) 15:54, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Thank you! I didn't pursue it as another editor has found a workaround, but at least now either name will work. Please can you move {{S-line/MINSKMETRO right/Avtozavodskaya}} to {{S-line/MINSKMETRO right/Aŭtazavodskaja}} (leaving a redirect) to match? Certes (talk) 18:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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@Onel5969: Thank you! It's good to be appreciated, and your tireless efforts haven't gone unnoticed either. A merry Christmas and all the best for 2018.

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