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[edit]Your recent editing history at Mexican Federal Highway 134 shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- @Tarl N. Huh? What edit war? All I did was add consistent article descriptions to a group of related articles, like Wikipedia repeatedly asks me to do. Celavin (talk) 07:29, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- You immediately reinstated an edit I had reverted. Please read WP:SDNONE for why your edit is inappropriate. In either case, if an edit of yours is undone, discuss it on the talk page before restoring it. Tarl N. (discuss) 07:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Tarl N. I didn't know I had reinstated anything. I was going down a search list of related articles looking for any with no short description. And I only got the dual notices of the reverted edit and the alleged edit war now - some 15-20 minutes after I finished off the list of federal Mexican highways. Celavin (talk) 07:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- I still don't understand why the submission was reverted. That WP:NONE article doesn't explain this. I added a description that a smattering of related pages already had; in fact, I made the descriptions uniform across the whole set of articles. And right now, if I open the article whose description you removed, I get a big prominent "+ADD ARTICLE DESCRIPTION" at the top of the screen. So what's to stop me or anyone else from adding a description to this article without knowing any better? Celavin (talk) 07:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Your creation of a short description does not add any disambiguating information - indeed, it is less informative than the original title. The purpose of the short description is to help on mobile screen searches where you may get a title which isn't fully informative, the short description can help you disambiguate between results. An example is if you get a result "Bluebuck", a short description of "Extinct species of South African antelope" call tell you if that's the article you are looking for. When the article title is Mexican Federal Highway 134, it is unambiguous, and should have a short description of "none". The description you added of "Highway in Mexico" does not provide any useful additional information - indeed, effectively it is a copy of the title with less information. Please read WP:SDESC, in particular the examples under "Purposes" to understand what should go there. The short description is always paired with the title, so repeating the title is not useful. Tarl N. (discuss) 18:27, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- I would add - it seems you added a whole pile of these kinds of inappropriate short descriptions. Please self-revert them. Tarl N. (discuss) 18:28, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Your creation of a short description does not add any disambiguating information - indeed, it is less informative than the original title. The purpose of the short description is to help on mobile screen searches where you may get a title which isn't fully informative, the short description can help you disambiguate between results. An example is if you get a result "Bluebuck", a short description of "Extinct species of South African antelope" call tell you if that's the article you are looking for. When the article title is Mexican Federal Highway 134, it is unambiguous, and should have a short description of "none". The description you added of "Highway in Mexico" does not provide any useful additional information - indeed, effectively it is a copy of the title with less information. Please read WP:SDESC, in particular the examples under "Purposes" to understand what should go there. The short description is always paired with the title, so repeating the title is not useful. Tarl N. (discuss) 18:27, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- I still don't understand why the submission was reverted. That WP:NONE article doesn't explain this. I added a description that a smattering of related pages already had; in fact, I made the descriptions uniform across the whole set of articles. And right now, if I open the article whose description you removed, I get a big prominent "+ADD ARTICLE DESCRIPTION" at the top of the screen. So what's to stop me or anyone else from adding a description to this article without knowing any better? Celavin (talk) 07:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Tarl N. I didn't know I had reinstated anything. I was going down a search list of related articles looking for any with no short description. And I only got the dual notices of the reverted edit and the alleged edit war now - some 15-20 minutes after I finished off the list of federal Mexican highways. Celavin (talk) 07:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- You immediately reinstated an edit I had reverted. Please read WP:SDNONE for why your edit is inappropriate. In either case, if an edit of yours is undone, discuss it on the talk page before restoring it. Tarl N. (discuss) 07:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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