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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Yedaman54 (talk) 20:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a misunderstanding that must be cleared. The profile picture was uploaded to the wiki's Zhu, Wen's infobox before was retracted from c:File:CADAL06200302 古本小說集成, I must explained "小说“ means novel, which means the book was not a fact-checked history book, that is what ”小说“means,whoever wrote that book did not DO ANY FACT CHECK" , so the person who use the picture to wiki probably did not know WHAT "小说” means, just because someone wrote a book does not mean it is true history, the book title itself clearly stated it is a novel not a fact-check history book. you can check the translation for the word"小说“, which means novel.
THE ONE THAT I REFERRED TO MISCONDUCT IN THE TALK PAGE OF ZHU,WEN WAS THE ONE WITH INTEND KNOWING SHUNDE IS NOT ZHU, WEN BUT STILL CREATED THAT PICTURE ON THE BOOK, NOT THE PERSON SCANNED THE BOOK AND UPLOADED THE PICTURE.
I am a PERSON WORSHIP MANY GOOD DEITIES AND GODS IN DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, MY FAMILY WORSHIPPED SHUNDE FOR MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS, HIS PICTURES ARE IN VARIOUS MUSIUMS AND TEMPLES, ANY MANY DAOISM FOLLOWER'S ALDERS, I WILL NOT MISIDENTIFY SOMEONE THAT MY FAMILY WORHSIPPED FOR GENERATIONS, I ALSO PROVIDE PROOF WHICH IS DIFFERENT LINKS THAT SHOWS SHUN DE'S PROFILE,
PLEASE CHECKED MY REFERENCE FOR SHUNDE'S APPEARANCE at 舜(上古部落联盟首领)_百度百科, please compare the ShunDe's picture with the previous uploaded picture who is not Zhu, Wen, because both figures look exactly the same, the only difference is the hat. I did not lie.
The reason I insisted to do the correction is because SHUNDE is Daoism God, he did not rape anybody and did not murder anybody, it is a matter of reputation and he does not want to be confused with Zhu, Wen, who has a lot to confess
to cancel grudges and hatred. By the way, I also need you to understand the law of Karma, Shunde did not do anything bad, he is a moral God were worshipped by Billions of people in China, verses to Zhu, Wen, who is completely different.
Therefore, ShunDe's descendants are going to have a very different future and lives verses to someone like Zhu, Wen.
So it is important that the identity be CORRECTED. CORRECTION100000 (talk) 09:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you provide me with a link of what he's supposed to look like? Yedaman54 (talk) 19:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, how do you know that the photo is misidentified? Zanahary 20:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a misunderstanding that must be cleared. The profile picture was uploaded to the wiki's Zhu, Wen's infobox before was retracted from c:File:CADAL06200302 古本小說集成, I must explained "小说“ means novel, which means the book was not a fact-checked history book, that is what ”小说“means,whoever wrote that book did not DO ANY FACT CHECK" , so the person who use the picture to wiki probably did not know WHAT "小说” means, just because someone wrote a book does not mean it is true history, the book title itself clearly stated it is a novel not a fact-check history book. you can check the translation for the word"小说“, which means novel.
THE ONE THAT I REFERRED TO MISCONDUCT IN THE TALK PAGE OF ZHU,WEN WAS THE ONE WITH INTEND KNOWING SHUNDE IS NOT ZHU, WEN BUT STILL CREATED THAT PICTURE ON THE BOOK, NOT THE PERSON SCANNED THE BOOK AND UPLOADED THE PICTURE.
I am a PERSON WORSHIP MANY GOOD DEITIES AND GODS IN DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, MY FAMILY WORSHIPPED SHUNDE FOR MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS, HIS PICTURES ARE IN VARIOUS MUSIUMS AND TEMPLES, ANY MANY DAOISM FOLLOWER'S ALDERS, I WILL NOT MISIDENTIFY SOMEONE THAT MY FAMILY WORHSIPPED FOR GENERATIONS, I ALSO PROVIDE PROOF WHICH IS DIFFERENT LINKS THAT SHOWS SHUN DE'S PROFILE,
PLEASE CHECKED MY REFERENCE FOR SHUNDE'S APPEARANCE at 舜(上古部落联盟首领)_百度百科, please compare the ShunDe's picture with the previous uploaded picture who is not Zhu, Wen, because both figures look exactly the same, the only difference is the hat. I did not lie.
The reason I insisted to do the correction is because SHUNDE is Daoism God, he did not rape anybody and did not murder anybody, it is a matter of reputation and he does not want to be confused with Zhu, Wen, who has a lot to confess
to cancel grudges and hatred. By the way, I also need you to understand the law of Karma, Shunde did not do anything bad, he is a moral God were worshipped by Billions of people in China, verses to Zhu, Wen, who is completely different.
Therefore, ShunDe's descendants are going to have a very different future and lives verses to someone like Zhu, Wen.
So it is important that the identity be CORRECTED.
CORRECTION100000 (talk) 09:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Star Mississippi: I didnot come here to do any harm to wiki. There is a misunderstanding that must be cleared. Fuxi(伏羲) is a DAOISM GOD my family worshipped for thousands of years. You can see his picture on the following link: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Fuxi If you checked the picture that is currently on the wiki Mahakala page (https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A7%E9%BB%91%E5%A4%A9#/media/File:Tibetan_Mahakala.jpg), there are the pictures of individual's heads on right and left side of the black figure, those individuals looks like they need a lot of help to get away from the black figure, on the right side (if you are facing the picture, it is on your right side) bottom of the picture, if you counted from the bottom, the third figure look very similar to my God Fuxi(伏羲)。 Please look at the hair style of those individuals, they are Han ethnic group's hair style, HAN ETHNIC GROUP IS THE LARGEST GROUP IN CHINA. The current picture on the wiki Mahakala page is complete disrespect to my ethnic group and my God Fuxi(伏羲, who is an expert of anti-voodooism), and that kind of disrespect is not allowed. Also can you see some of them were crying? They don't want to be sat on. They don't want to be someone's bell decoration. If you can send me your email address, or a way to show a comparison picture, you will see what I meant. I was someone went to India and lived in an ashram for a month looking for relieve, in fact, I went to India twice. I went to true India temples knowing that their temple does not allow statute with voodooism. Yesterday, I found out the true Mahakala statute looks completely different then the current one uploaded to the wiki Mahakala page, please see the link https://zeenews.india.com/hindi/india/madhya-pradesh-chhattisgarh/mp/photo-gallery-mahakala-photo-ujjain-last-shahi-sawari-me-hindu-muslim-jyotiraditya-scindia-ujjain-live-darshan-sdmp/1314576/-1314583 PLEASE DO LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF INDIAN THE LINK AND COMPARE TO THE CURRENT PICTURE ON THE WIKI PAGE. I also provided the link of the true Mahakala's picture, which belonged a local India media website, they obtained the picture from a traditional Mahakala's annual festival, which has been going on for thousands of years, that picture look very authentic and the Statue was dress appropriately, but the picture previously on wiki's Mahakala page was a completely different figure and the picture has voodooism that must be corrected, let me explain. A proper worshipped Buddha or God statue must not have other innocent person's pictures of skulls or body parts that made as decoration because Buddhism is not voodooism. NO one allowed to put a picture of their heads and made a necklace around another person, because DAOISM GODS AND the people they protected ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE VOODOOED. Furthermore, those my Han people do not want to vomit blood, do not want to be stripped of their hat, and certainly do not want to be hang around any body's neck or body!!! By the way, a true Buddha will never do something so improper to disrespect a different religion and a large ethnic group. because he did not want to start a holy war. Furthermore, those good Han people are super good beings, they are not devils, therefore, they do not deserve to be mistreated like that. The Tang Emperors worshipped the correct India Buddhas statues that the Great Monk Tang Seng brought back from India, I can assure you, the true Mahakala is an Indian not the black figure on the picture. Please understand the tradition of Worshipping the TRUE Mahakala is originated from India, not from Tibet, one of the reasons that Great Monk Tang Seng (唐僧) went to India was to verify the fact, such as what true Buddhas look like, what true Buddhas scriptures are. I don't know who the black figure is as of today, but I am pretty sure that the original MahaKala from India does not look like that, he will never allow his follower to design a picture like that to upset other HAN ethnic group followers and other religion leader. NOTICE: WHEN I SAYS I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT BLACK FIGURE IS MEANING I STILL NEED TIME TO FIGURE OUT HIS INTENT, WAS THIS FIGURE BE USED OR THE OTHER POSSIBLITY, BUT I AM SURE ABOUT ONE THING: WHOEVER DESIGNED THAT CURRENT PICTURE CLEARLY OWE DAOISM AND THOSE GOOD HAN PEOPLE AN APOLOGY AND A LOT OF CONFESSION. That is why I took that picture down from wiki on November 24, 2024, and put a warning message on the front page. I have been loyal Daoism and Buddhism and Hindu follower for years, the normal Daoism, Buddhism and Hindu God statues were never like that, they don't put other people's head or body parts figures as decorations, that is just common sense. My god Fuxi(伏羲)and the HAN people that he protected do not allowed to be insulted, or mistreated in any way, they have no interest to be anyone's necklace or bell decoration. I also want to make it very clear, I registered wiki account is to correct identity issues, Identity of A true God are not allowed to be switched or mixed up with someone else. Please unblock me.

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CORRECTION100000 (talk) 09:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

apologies to whoever winds up trying to read this. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I want to put a comparison picture to the admin to show I am not lying, but since the comparison picture was composed from two pictures, which was placed side by side to compare, both pictures are drawn by someone else, but I made the comparison pictures based on the two, so how should I upload that comparison picture to this requested reviewed page so the admin can see it? CORRECTION100000 (talk) 12:49, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Star Mississippi, you may consider talk page block this WP:CIR case. They don't even understand what being blocked is. Not even Keanu Reeves our Lord and saviour knows what CORRECTION100000 thinks is going on. BarntToust 18:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait hold on with a talk page block I'm curious now. But fr I wanna see if he gives us a link to what he thinks Zhu Wen looks like. You never know we might be on the cutting edge of early Chinese history right now lol. Yedaman54 (talk) 19:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I just read most of it and I think he's trying to say the photo originates from a novel which could mean its not a factual representation of what Zhu Wen looks like. Yedaman54 (talk) 20:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the image is an estimation because there was no other way to record the way someone looked like other than to just write about it. Photo cameras did not exist back then. BarntToust 20:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's confusing because they've given lots of different pictures that they want us to look at, but from what I understand, the crux of the argument is that our original painting is the same person from the link they gave to baike baidu. There are two paintings of similar looking emperors with yellow-orange backgrounds, but this user is saying they're the same person but with a different hat on (taken from their comment on the talk page).
Probably. I'm like 90% sure but I've also got a headache after trying to figure it out, so... Blue-Sonnet (talk) 05:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So your saying the user might have had a point after all? Like do we know if there any different photos of Zhu Wen we could find/use? Yedaman54 (talk) 06:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly I'm not sure - I spent hours trying to find out. They do look similar, and one lived in 2000BCE whilst the other was 800BCE. It's also weird how the paintings have almost identical styles! Our version was uploaded as "similar to existing work" (not sure of the wording and walking into the office so can't check). But I couldn't find any academic sites with either picture on so I'm a bit lost! The link from the OP was user generated so not reliable... I think we should maybe take a look again to be safe? Blue-Sonnet (talk) 08:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Blue-Sonnet, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Spending time trying to tell two Chinese people apart looks hella bad on anybody. I'm not saying that to make an insensitive joke, but rather to point out the essential element that it's a folly based around the mechanics of a racial stereotype, and that is definitely not worth your time, because this editor probably confused two Chinese people with one another.
If an unlearned, screamy, and generally WP:CIR-case editor was the only one drawing attention to it, then it's probably not important. Look, if it was someone competent talking, I'd put stock into it. In reality, it's just "SCREAMing ALL CAPS DAOISM WE ALL GET HANG BY NECK OR BODY" who is telling us. Know better than to take that stuff seriously, alrighty? BarntToust 12:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BarntToust You're right, it's interesting that the art style and colours are eerily similar for such a long gap in time between subjects, but I don't know anything about ancient Chinese art, plus any actual analysis would be OR and I'm not going anywhere near that! Blue-Sonnet (talk) 15:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the editor figures out the file upload wizard, they run the risk of uploading copyrighted material, which for the improper purpose it is, may constitute a copyright violation. However, on the off chance they just link to an image on an external site of repute, maybe we do become enlightened about Daoism or whatever? BarntToust 20:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yedaman54, my favorite part of reading CORRECTION100000's rant on their unblock request had to be: "Furthermore, those my Han people do not want to vomit blood, do not want to be stripped of their hat, and certainly do not want to be hang around any body's neck or body!!!". You cannot make this stuff up! BarntToust 20:09, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
IF I ASSUMPPED GOOD FAITH ON YOU, PLS DO THE SAME TO ME, I AM HERE MAKE CORRECTION BASED ON GOOD FAITH.
I DIDN'T MAKE THAT STUFF UP. SO DID YOU ACTUALLY LOOK INTO CURRENT THE PICTURE ON THE WIKI MAHAKALA PAGE REALLY CAREFUL? THOSE HAN PEOPLE REALLY LOOK LIKE THAT WAY I DESCRIBED.
CAN YOU BE MORE CONSIDERATE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S FEELING.
I DID PROVIDE A PROOF OF PICTURE OF THE ORIGINAL MAHAKALA FROM A CREDITABLE INDIA MEDIA SOURCE, BECAUSE THAT PICTURE BELONG TO THEM, I DIDN'T UPLOAD TO WIKI BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE WILLING TO DO SO.
ALSO, I AM A LEGAL PROFESSION with degree and HAVE MORE THAN 10 year experience, but I AM JUST NEW TO WIKI. THE LAW OF U.S. STILL RULE THE LAND OF U.S., I KNOW HOW TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT BY USING THE NORMAL COURT SYSTEM. THE U.S. CONSTITUTIONS STILL RULE THE LAND AND WIKI. NO ONE ALLOWED TO SWITH A TRUE GOD' s IDENTITY AND NO ONE ALLOWED TO BELITTLE OTHER INNOCENT BEINGS. CORRECTION100000 (talk) 07:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
God bless google translate! Yedaman54 (talk) 20:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I think we just see what happens and deal with whatever he sends when the time comes. Like if he somehow figures out how to upload and it's copyrighted material we'll just get it deleted. Yedaman54 (talk) 20:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
IF I ASSUMPPED GOOD FAITH ON YOU, PLS DO THE SAME TO ME, I AM HERE MAKE CORRECTION BASED ON GOOD FAITH. THE COMPARISON PICTURE I MADE BASED ON COMPARING TWO PICTURES WHICH I WILL STILL CREDIT THE ORIGINAL ARTISTS, I WILL NOT TAKE AWAY THEIR CREDITS. IN THAT CASE, I DIDN'T VIOLATE ANYTHING, YOU CANNOT DELETE MY PICTURE. CORRECTION100000 (talk) 06:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think there's a WP:GREATWRONG being addressed here. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh shoot thats totally whats going on here lol. Yedaman54 (talk) 20:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ACTUALLY, some resources of some INFO ON WIKI were from novels, they are not reliable resauces for making history information. ALSO, LORD MAHAKALA IS ORIGINATED FROM INDIA, TIBET is not the origin for THAT GOD, ALSO THERE WERE FAKE MONKS IN TIBET, SO NOT ALL RESAUCEs FROM TIBET IS RELIABLE. CORRECTION100000 (talk) 07:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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