User talk:CARAVAGGISTI

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Bold textDA VINCIBold text Caravaggistsi: I don't know why you think you are the foremost authority on Da Vinci and Italian Rennis. paintings....Christ Carrying the Cross was fully attributed last year by Carlo Pedretti, foremost Leonardo expert in the world as by Da Vinci, and was further inspected by Alain Goldrich and Andrea Roche the two top conservators in the world and Martin Kemp of Oxford who concurred with Pedretti.. Leonardo's fingerprint is confirmed embedded in the paint....regarding the Titians, they were bought at Sothebys as Titian (June 1989)/(1931), I guess you don't buy at auction either or you would have known this....finally, the Raphael was sold at Christies in 1892 as "Raphael" and is featured in Burlington Magazine Oct. 1978....perhaps you should go find someone else to harrass.

François Duquesnoy

Your article François Duquesnoy needs cleanup -- it seems poorly formatted at the very least. You might also want to mark it as a stub.

Sources for School of Ferrara (Painting)

Hello. Thanks for your valuable contributions to art articles - this is much appreciated. In particular, I like what you did with School of Ferrara (Painting). However, you did not provide any references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. Can you list in the article any websites, books, or other sources that will allow people to verify the content in School of Ferrara (Painting)? You can simply add links, or see WP:CITET for different citation methods. Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 13:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

I just wanted to tell you thanks for Scarsellino and other valuable articles. Keep up the good work! And please tell something about yourself on your user page! Renata3 03:33, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Duplicate article at Bonifacio Pitati

It seems that your article an article for Bonifacio Pitati already exists at Bonifazio Veronese. I've redirected the article you wrote to the original one, however you had some details in yours that don't seem to be in the original, so maybe you could add more on it, thanks. - Hahnchen 21:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Churches and Monuments of Rome

I noticed that you included many churches of Rome in the Category about Monuments and sights of Rome; since all of the churches are already included in the "Churches of Rome" category, and since this category is already a sub category of "Monuments and sights", I would ask you to revert your edits. Best regards, --Panairjdde 18:46, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Your edit to Pierre LeGros

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Moved "Gertrude Goldschmidt" to "Gego"

Thanks for starting the article. I moved the main article as the artist is more frequently known as Gego. Gertrude Goldschmidt redirects to the article JRSP 23:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

List of artworks

Hi! Because I agreed with your comments on Talk:List of artworks, I nominated the page for deletion. Join the discussion, if you're interested. Skarioffszky 11:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Academy Saint Luke

Thank you for your kind words. You also are of course a lover of the great Michelangelo - and you know far more than I about art. (I'm merely clever at taking books and making a summary of them). Robb, in my opinion, is a journalist rather than a scholar - which is exactly what I see myself as being. He did a great deal of work before writing his biography, but in the writing he allowed (deliberately) himself to take a highly personalised view of his subject. It's great writing, but not really scholarship.

As for the article on the academy, it suffers from being too narrow - this is because it's based on to few sources. How important was it in subsequent art history? I have no idea. But this needs to be written proiperly - a job which you will be more able than I to do, as I don't read Italian. I will watch what happens with interest.

By the way, do you know the expatraite Australian artist Jeffrey Smart? He paints desolate, austere scenes, with something of Caravaggio's spirit - but without Caravaggio's hope of salvation. That's the true modernism of Caravaggio, his discovery of the isolation of modern man, in a world in which religion is a hope rather than a certainty. PiCo 13:46, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Andrea Meldolla

Can you check this ungrammatical quote from Freedberg you added on 15 Dec:

"occasionally, the sensibility - too receptive, almost feminine - that inclined Schiavone towards imitation brought him to the verge of echo of (Titian)".

Problem part highlighted - verge of echoing perhaps? Johnbod 18:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

ThanksJohnbod 23:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Nature Illustration

Please don't redirect from article space to category space. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Francois Nome

I have announced your article at Wikipedia:WikiProject France/New article announcements. If you write more about France-related topics, please announce your articles there. Thank you, and happy editing, STTW (talk) 22:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Villa Farnese

Ciao! I reverted your edit to the Villa Farnese and Villa Rufinella, as they are not in Rome (to be near of it is not the same). Bye and good work. user:Attilios

Cannobio

Now, Egreggio Mr Caravaggisti -

I have removed all our arguments from this page as they serve no useful purpose. I am sure you would agree.

My request is that if we are to produce a meaningful page on Cannobio that it be done constructively.

I admire your contribution of the history of Cannobio and have taken the liberty of correcting some of the english, whilst leaving, in totality, your contribution intact.

I have reinserted SOME of my original contributiuon, leaving out your perfectly reasonable accusation of some of it being a little like Yellow Pages. I have no axe whatsoever to grind that these be left out, though would argue that as Cannobio IS primarily a tourist destination, at least a LIST of commercial entities - particularly restaurant...a source close to the heart of any Italian - be included, if no personal observations on their merit or lack of it.

I am relatively new to Wikipedia and therefore ask that if there is anything you, or anyone, objects to in the content of my contribution, they do me the courtesy of telling me - and this CAN be done politely - instead of arbitarily deleting everything. I am perfectly willing to learn.

THAT, to my view, is the spirit of Wikipedia - Even Wikipedia describes Encyclopedic as

An encyclopedia, encyclopaedia or (traditionally) encyclopædia,[1] is a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on all branches of knowledge or a particular branch of knowledge.

Castello

Thanks for creating a disambiguation page for Castello. The next step is to disambiguate the links to the page - check what links here. Warofdreams talk 01:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC) Now done to best of my knowledge. CARAVAGGISTI 02:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Help in edit war

Can I ask your help in the poll to dirime this edit war at Castelseprio (see talk:Castelseprio)? I've stumbled in somebody with awful style layout, nad probably one of those guys getting stuck like children in their version of any article. Bye and good work. --Attilios 09:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Peitre dure

The article Pietre dure needs some major revision. Mosaic is an ancient art, but lapidary art is a different art; it's jewelers doing stone, semiprecious stone and even precious stone, all finely polished and tightly fitted, unlike a bathroom floor or wall. Peitre dure is the jeweler's art applied to mosaic, with the grout sometimes made invisible.

Can we call Jacopo Ligozzi a jeweler? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MarkTwainOnIce (talk • contribs) 09:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

I vote no, unless someone has strong opinions yes. Jewelers have to handle precious materials with their hands. I have no evidence he did that, and likely did not. CARAVAGGISTI 15:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I have redone pietre dure, and would not mind a critique. The references/sources need to be tidied up somewhat, but that's for another day; the article also needs to be moved to the correct name-space.

I've also dug up enough to justify an article Galleria di'Lavori and/or Opificio delle pietre dure. --MarkTwainOnIce 19:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

PS, I need a translation for opere di commessi; "works of store clerks" is absurd in English. --MarkTwainOnIce 20:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		message Attilios 17:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Castelseprio

I would signal you the behaviour of user:Johnbod at Castelseprio: another personal attempt to put back the page at his will to a pre-Edir War version, when a large consensus had been reached to keep things as they were. He did an alleged splitting, but not the one discussed there. Bye and thanks --Attilios 01:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Torrelli

Not being the author, I can--and did --remove the tag. The prejudice against the fine arts here seems to be increasing-- - You've been here much longer than I have, but I do not know whether you follow the AfD debates--I do, mainly to rescue persecuted academics-- , and the only way to deal with it is to build up the article in advance offline and never put in a stub. To prevent speedys, the trick at the moment is to include the exact phrase "He is notable for ..." using that exact word. Sounds nutty, but it works. The Grove ref there did not work at least from the US. I put in an additional one to the subscription version. I am trying to get it established that any artist (or musician) with a Grove article is Notable as a matter of course, and if you wish I will help--and ask for help--as needed. DGG 07:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Printmakers

When doing new artists PLEEEASE try to remember (if appropriate) to say "painter and printmaker" in the lead, to include & link the technique(s) used, and to categorise as "Category:Italian printmakers". Lets face it, Ghisi and Salimbeni are now better known as printmakers than painters, surely? You might also look at the new List of Printmakers to see who else is missing of your guys, Thanks Johnbod 04:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, congratulations on your Barnstar from General attilios! Johnbod 04:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Cosenza and Palazzo Te

First, I don't appreciate what Johnbod has just wrote up here... he seems to be raging as he's lost the edit war on Castelseprio. But that's OK. I was asking you if you wanted to support move of Palazzo del Te to Palazzo Te here, of course if you agree. Also, I've started wikification of the mess at Cosenza. Bye and good work. --Attilios 23:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, if you support the move of Palazzo Te, you can add support in the survey section of the talk page there. Bye. --Attilios 11:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Couple of missing topics lists

Greetings. I have watched your handiwork for a while now. It appears that you are writing about artists, some of which have been linked to my lists of missing topics about art. I am hardly an expert so could you find time to have a look at the lists, at least as far as your speciality is concerned? - Skysmith 14:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you - Skysmith 12:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

A note

Ciao CARAV. Just a note for new articles you are creating. Don't forget to add the categories of births and death (see what I did in Flaminio Ponzio, for example), and to add the DEFAULTSORT template before categories list. Bye and good work. --Attilios 11:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I just found out about this myself: DEFAULTSORT is a magic words callup, not a template (note the "|" instead of the ":") and it must be in ALL CAPS to work correctly. Sorry for any inconvenience. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

You're not alone... ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 21:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Italian or Florentine?

Hi - your views would be welcome at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts#.22Italian.22_or_.22Florentine.22_etc_artist_.3Fc here Johnbod 17:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Concrete suggestions for Pederasty?

You criticized pederasty on its talk page a while back, but made no edits to the article. I've placed a POV tag on the page -- what are the changes you think should be made? DanB†DanD 18:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

My comments elaborate in the discussion problems with the scholarship of the article, specifically that where there is a dearth of data, sodomy is confused with pederasty, and on the whole the article seems to suggest that pederasty is common. On the other hand, I do not want to re-write this article; I do not want to make it my focus. It is a contentious business of which I want no part of. My interest is the culture of the Italian peninsula mainly from 1600-1800. My intersection with pederasty was that one of the authors of the pederasty article was making octupus-like links to items of little relationship, and also using those articles to foward his view that "pederasty was commonplace" specially among the "luminaries of the time". He also made specific statements that were false, he made Michelangelo into a pederast, and the evidence of this is sketchy. The article of pederasty is a problems, for which I do not want to be the solution. I would warn the editors that some of the behavior exhibited by Haiduc and others could be seen as legally troublesome, if it means to link Michelangelo, a common topic for middle school children, to pederasty, and from there to man-boy organizations like NAMBLA. I am comfortable patrolling Italian art, I do not want to be responsible for what occurs in "pederasty". CARAVAGGISTI 03:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Giovanni da Milano

Ciao, Caravaggisti! Just wondering what rationale you used in changing the commonscat on Giovanni da Milano, such that he gets sorted on Milano. That doesn't make intuitive sense to me (any more than sorting Leonardo da Vinci under Vinci would) and isn't supported by the Getty Union List, my usual source for this kind of thing: [1] Thanks in advance for clarifying. Planetneutral ^talk 17:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Pietro Paltronieri

Hey, Caravaggisti. I see you are creating artist stubs on notable artists and I'd like to thank you for that. However, could you please change the "source" section to the standard "references?" Also, could you please add the {{artist-stub}} tag to the bottom of these pages so that they are not counted toward the article count in Wikipedia? I will go back and do this for the ones you've already created, but could you please do this in the future? Thanks. JHMM13 05:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

OK I've given up at Giuseppe Gambarini of April 4th. I'd very much appreciate it if you go back before that and fix the articles. Thanks, JHMM13 05:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Fantastic work on adding info about historic artists - very much needed Tyrenius 23:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

You might be interested in your contributions.[2] By the way, you can alter a setting in your preferences to remind you to leave an edit summary. It's always good to get inline citations in articles, so I've appended some info, but delete it if you're already familiar with it. Tyrenius 23:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Guide to referencing

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Italian names

I see that you usually do't reply to my messages... why? Anyway, I would like to draw your attention to a mistake i see recurring from your sources... "Francisco" is not an Italian name, it's Spanish. Italian is Francesco. I see there are also truly a lot of more mistakes, mispellings, miseverything from your Wittkower sources about Italian stuff... if you've doubts about Italian spellings, ask me freely. Bye and good work.--Attilios 22:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear CARAV, I appreciate much your always useful and detailed additions about Italian stuff. However, as usual Italian spelling is something horrendous... A pieta is definitely something far different from a pietà. Bye and good work. --Attilios 14:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

User 76.5.105.107

Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss it with the other administrators. In the future if you come across something like his you could also post it at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. However, listing it at the vandalism noticeboard was the right thing to do, but I agree it is a bit out of the ordinary. Thanks again. TimVickers 15:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Again me

Ciao Carav! Good work at Santa Trinita. However, just some advices: please avoid the use of statements such as "notable church", "famous painter" etc.. those are called "weasel words", and belong to the POV policy which is disregarded here. I admit, sometimes I use it also, but try to avoid it especially in the definition of the entry. Also, another very minor thing: use complete numbering when possible: i.e. 1594-1597, instead of 1594-7. Bye, and anyway compliments, as your adds are very very useful. --Attilios 00:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Much as I hate to disagree with Attilios, neither of these are usually Weasel words, nor do they necessarily fall under WP:PEACOCK which I presume is the policy he means. And the standard form is 1594-97 though I can't remember the guideline for that. Johnbod 01:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Attilios on this. I put it in because I was fearful of getting it listed for deletion. But once it passes muster, those words can be taken out. CARAVAGGISTI 02:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Again again me

Ciao! Beware of where you put images, as in Norcia, since they could create blank spaces!! Ciao and good work.--Attilios 08:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Marco da Siena

I can't figure out what name Marco da Siena is supposed to redirect to. I was able to fix two other redirects you created recently that pointed to themselves, but this one has me stumped. --Russ (talk) 11:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Marco da Siena = Marco PinoCARAVAGGISTI 12:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Can have revenge

Ciao! If you're interested and have time, you can have revenge against my notes about Italian spelling by correcting my mediocre English in the following painting articles:

• Triumph of the Virtues (Mantegna)
• Death of the Virgin (Mantegna)
• Holy Family (Carpaccio)
• Two Venetian Ladies
• Knight (Carpaccio)

Good work and thank you. --Attilios 14:18, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Ciao! Some notes of style about your article Galleria dei dipinti antichi della Cassa di Risparmio di Cesena:

• No need of boldface when it's a simple list. It's reserved to (sub)sections or repetition, in different form, of the name of the entry's subject
• No need of listing by surname. say, not Beccafumi, Domenico, but leave it Domenico Beccafumi though maintaining the listing by surname of course.
• No use of 1400s instead of 15th century. Here, "1400s" means literally the years from 1401 to 1410.

Bye and anjoy editing Wikipedia with your nice articles. --Attilios 14:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks some of it is experimenting. I'll work on changing these.CARAVAGGISTI 14:55, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Categories

It's again me!! just a note for categories... it'd be Italian painters, not category:Italian painter. Ciaooooo.... --Attilios 22:14, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Andrea Lanzani and Andrea Lanzano

Hello Caravaggisti. I'm contacting you with regards to two articles you recently created: Andrea Lanzani and Andrea Lanzano. Both painters were born in the same year (around 1645) in the same city (Milan) and died in the same year (1712). I see that you created the article Andrea Lanzani on April 11, and the article Andrea Lanzano on June 5. Are they one and the same person, or not? Cows fly kites (Aecis) ^{Rule/Contributions} 17:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

message (angels of ponte sant'angelo)

just to say thanks! Tetraktys-English 22:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Pietro Snayers

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No , but I was hoping someone would one day, and thereby be able to find this primary source for the article.CARAVAGGISTI 05:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Pieter Snayers has been added, with a redirect from Pietro. --Stomme 21:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Getty

Thanks - I use the Getty Union List as a convenient online reference for artists names, or in todays case, the sorting of names; in most cases I could use books but the Getty is easier for others to check. I don't think a copyright issue arises there. As you may know, until recently the WP manual of style implied that eg Jan van Eyck was sorted under V as "Van Eyck, Jan" which is just not right. This has been changed & I was sorting out the "defaultsort"s etc. User:Pietdesomere seems to have gone quiet - he used to do a lot. Attilios has developed an interest in van Eyck. I'm not sure I want to spend too much time on these guys - there are so many of them! All the best. Johnbod 00:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Girolamo da Trevigi

Hi. I am quite certain that Girolamo da Trevigi and Girolamo da Treviso (the Younger) are one in the same, and that he is also known as Gerolamo Pennacchi. Vasari discusses him in the biography of Perino del Vaga. The relationship between Girolamo and Pier Maria Pennacchi is more complex. I don't have any proof of Girolamo having studied with Pier, but I won't discount it for now. However, Domenico Capriolo (no article, but red-linked in the Giorgione article) appears to have been both Pier Maria's student and son-in-law. It also seems that older literature often discussed Pier Maria Pennacchi together with another Girolamo da Treviso (the Elder) who lived between 1475–97, who might also have been his older brother. That's where an investigation of my books took me just now. So yes, it's a bit too confusing for me to get a complete picture at the moment. But I'll add anything solid I find (but not at this moment as I don't have time)... --Stomme 07:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Butting in, according to the Getty Name list Pier Maria was the younger brother (by 14 years) of Girolamo da Treviso the Elder.[3] What they don't specify is the relationship between these two and Girolamo the Younger, who was born perhaps just after the Elder's death. Johnbod 12:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

A justification of the category "Italian Roman Catholics"

You wrote to me: "I want to question the utility of even having this category. Specifically I object to making such a category and including Italians from Rome from the 16th and 17th century. Is there a category of Italians from Rome in those centuries who were not Roman Catholics?? Someone listed both Gianlorenzo Bernini and Michelangelo in this category, why? What else could Michelangelo have been? I think this category is exceedingly redundant when applied to Italians of those centuries. I question if it has any informative value. Nearly all Italians living in Rome in the 16th century were Catholic. It would be more interesting to make a list of those who weren't. I challenge you to find any. Ultimately, I believe that the category will be either deleted or many names, such as those above, pruned from the list. CARAVAGGISTI 18:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Schlier22"

1. Utility does not determine whether or not the designation of a person under a category is appropriate. There is especially no reason to proscribe the assignment of what may seem to be obvious, implied, or redundant categories to those individuals whose historical or cultural situatedness make their assignment to those categories obvious, implied, or redundant.

2. You challenged me to present exceptions to your absolutist conjecture that "all Italians living in Rome in the 16th century were Catholic." Exhibit A: Giordano Bruno (1548-1600), who was condemned as a heretic by Catholic authority. Since convicted heresy implies excommunication, Bruno was ipso facto a non-Catholic.

3. I am reassigning the category "Italian Roman Catholics" to all those persons who are or were in fact Italian Roman Catholics. I have proven with the example of Bruno that a "16th century Italian, Roman Catholic person" is not tautologous. Hence, the categorization of certain 16th century Italians as "Italian Roman Catholics" has at least some informative value.

4. If you or others either delete the category or prune persons from it who properly belong to it, I will report this issue to the wikipedia authorities for arbitration. -Schlier22 18:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Please do NOT copy and paste content to rename pages--use the Move tab

The Pietro Bianchi article page should have been Moved to Pietro Bianchi (Athlete)--not transfered via cut&paste. Using cut&paste separates the content from its edit history, which is a problem with the GFDL license, among other things, which admins then have to clean up. If you have done the same thing with other articles in the past you can report them at the Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Also, please note that according to Wikipedia:naming conventions the new articles should be at Pietro Bianchi (athlete) (which should be taken care of by the admin merging the histories) and Pietro Bianchi (painter), without the excess capitalization. Thanks. Seattlenow 23:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Format

Ciao CARAV. Some little format advices: 1) don't put in boldface or italics the titles in the |title= field of the cite book template; 2) don't forget the birth/death cat where possible; 3) check typos in your articles. For the rest, compliments for the wide interesting opera you're doing with Italian painters!!! I've recently added a more thouroughly analysis of interpretations of The Flagellation (Piero della Francesca), which still nobody has copyedit or checked. It you've time, you can help with it. Ciao and good work!! --Attilios 17:09, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Judith

Can I ask you for your help? Would it be possible to send you a picture of a painting - not signed or dated - from the second half of 17th century with Judith, Holofernes and Abra? It is either Italian or Dutch, and I would like to know your opinion? Taksen 10:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Valencians

Hi Caravaggisti, I just noticed, via your addition to Sorolla, that you are beginning a Category:People from Valencia, and wondered if this is different from the existing Category:Valencian People. There may be a good rationale--I am not deeply versed on the workings of categories. Best wishes, JNW 22:29, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Not at all. Indefatigable contributor as you are, I did not want you go to the trouble of re-inventing an existing category. Cheers, JNW 23:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

You know you can upload all the paintings of these people to the commons and use them in the article of course?? I'd be great to see a gallery of their paimtimgs or at least one expample ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		For your tireless contributions, especially in artists' biographies. JNW 23:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Barbiere

I only see Damiano del Barbiere referred to as Domenico del Barbiere: even the source at the bottom of the page spells him that way. Did you have a source that calls him "Damiano"? Of course, people were often called more than one name in those days.qp10qp 16:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

My books spell him with an e, but your use of an i prompted me to change my search terms, and so I have found Domenico del Barbieri. I didn't realise there were two such guys, and now I can relax and link to Domenico, the one who sculpted the base to the monument for the heart of Henry II. Blunt, in Art and Architecture in France, 1500-1700, is quite clear about that, even though our article doesn't mention that he sculpted. No one much seems to mention Damiano (seven Googlebook hits), so you might be right that they could possibly be the same fellow.qp10qp 15:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I've added some bits and pieces to that article, based on Blunt.qp10qp 23:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Carlo Frigerio

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Ciao!

Ciao, thanks for the nice additions. But, please, when using the cite book template, don't add the title between the . Just write it without formatting, and it'll get out in italics automatically. Ciao and good work. --Attilios (talk) 11:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Cesario Renzi

A tag has been placed on Cesario Renzi requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

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AfD nomination of Carlo Frigerio

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Art Collection of the Fondazione Cassa di Risparmio di Lucca

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GA reassessment of Canaletto

I have conducted a review of this article which has a large number of issues which need attention. I have delisted it. The reassessment is at Talk:Canaletto/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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Speedy deletion nomination of Giovanni Battista Cerva

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== Proposed deletion of Mario Lainati ==

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He may be a painter but not many sources available about him

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Nomination of Francesco Baretta for deletion

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Jacopo Amigoni

Hello Thanks for your interesting article on Amiconi/Amigoni. I read it with great interest. I wish to make you aware of a possible "business connection" of Amigoni with Farinelli and composer Nicola Porpora which was reported by late 18th century British press. I found an article about Farinelli in the The Westminster Magazine: or, The Pantheon of Taste, vol. 5 (1777), pp. 396-397, which I am currently preparing for publication on Wikisource (i.e. I have contacted a user actively contributing to the music section in the English wikisource and who will hopefully find this piece of information useful). I do not wish to interfere in British/English wikipedia, hence I am sending you this link here, in case you wish to consider this piece of information.--Haendelfan (talk) 23:57, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Luis Antonio Ribera

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A barnstar for you!

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for creating so many articles about Italian painters!Zigzig20s (talk) 05:33, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Placido Campolo for deletion

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Category:Bergamese painters has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Milanese painters has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Neapolitan painters has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Bolognese painters has been nominated for renaming

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Nomination of Angelo Nardi (referee) for deletion

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Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Re: Bamboccianti

Great work on Bamboccianti. I wish we had more writers like yourself. Not only is the article a pleasure to read, it's educational, informative, entertaining, humorous, sad, tragic, and enlightening, all rolled into one. You are, clearly, a master. Viriditas (talk) 09:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)