User talk:Bovineboy2008/Archives/2010/July

WP:FILMS June 2010 Newsletter

The June 2010 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:29, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

2010 in film

Please refrain from editing 2010 in film, for if continued, a ban may be set. thank you. Tdi7457 (talk • contrib) 08:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

This is a warning. Continued addition of Elżbieta Czyżewska to 2010 in film may result in a block. If you find other known film titles to her name, i'll consider re-addition. thank you.Tdi7457 (talk • contrib) 08:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Dude, there is no legitimate reason not to include her. The entry contains three films, that is notable. BOVINEBOY2008 12:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Unprotect 2010 in film for you messed up the page. Delete Elżbieta Czyżewska from the page. It is only necessary for it will prevent furthur damage to the page and your furthur stubborness.Tdi7457 (talk • contrib) 08:50, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I am not an admin. Why do you want to delete her entry? BOVINEBOY2008 02:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Her entry has indented Elliot Kastner's entry. That part is too full to contain her entry. That and every entry submitted is familliar with the users and viewers of the page. No one knows a Elżbieta Czyżewska.Tdi7457 (talk • contrib) 23:13, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

That is not a good reason and you know it, we can make the section longer. I am also starting an entry at WT:FILM about it that you should definitely comment on. BOVINEBOY2008 02:20, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Listen, i know you want her recognized. But she just won't fit. Protecting the page won't solve the problem. If you remove her entry, i'll nominate you for becoming an administrator. Think about it.Tdi7457 (talk • contrib) 23:13, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sheet Music for Leon Russell and Robin Thicke

Bovineboy2008,

Thank you for the messages. Sorry for the inconvenience; I am a new user to wikipedia. How would I go about adding a reference to the existence of sheet music for the album, then, without being considered a vandal or unconstructive? Mikeclm (talk) 20:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeclm (talk • contribs)

You can't advertise. Period. First, you need to consider not leaving pretty much identical entries to several articles. Also, Wikipedia looks down heavily on conflict of interest editing and single-purpose editors; you may want to read WP:COI and WP:ADV. BOVINEBOY2008 21:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Dean Holdsworth

Excuse me pal, why did you delete my comment ref Dean Holdsworth and ultimately my profile? Check your facts! I'm new to this and don't know how to add sources. http://www.bromsgroveadvertiser.co.uk/news/weddings/8239554.Dean_Holdsworth___Susanna_Cobham/?ref=mr Capeesh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Holyremimoses (talk • contribs) 22:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Huh? What was wrong with that? I posted source of info etc. Stuff your warnings this website is pants Holyremimoses (talk) 23:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, calm down. I'm using a new editing problem and am still working out the kinks. If you need help formatting or editing the page, just ask. BOVINEBOY2008 23:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Monstrosity Revert

Hi, Why did you remove my external link on Monstrosity In the External Links guide is says to add links if the target provides more details and info, which my review of the movie does...anyway, I'm new here, so forgive me if I'm out of line. Monstershack (talk) 06:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Please review WP:EL and WP:COI. BOVINEBOY2008 10:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I have reviewed this and found in WP:EL "What should be linked...Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to ...amount of detail..." I thought that since the review is so detailed it shouldn't be here. Well, whatever. I still don't understand explicitly what I've violated.Monstershack (talk) 11:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Also read WP:COI. Wikipedia is not your advertising ground. BOVINEBOY2008 11:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

A math help

• Hi, I've known that you're a mathematician via your userbox, so needed your help in maths.Would you please help me to understand that how Angle=Arc/radius? BestMax Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 11:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

2010 in film content dispute

I can understand the frustration you've recently experienced in editing this article, but you're engaged in the edit war just as much as the opposing editor. Hidden-text and edit-summary rationales, along with sporadic user-page dialogue, do little to help establish consensus. Not one of you has documented your logic on the article's talk page and invited other editors to chime in. To this end, I have protected the page for a short period, so rationales can surface and truth win out. Then, if the errant editor defies the community, he/she will be blocked. Hope this seems reasonable. —Eustress ^talk 02:21, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. This makes much more sense. I am not always quite sure how to handle these kind of situations. I have started a discussion at WT:FILM. BOVINEBOY2008 02:24, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan... however, I recommend discussing the issue on the talk page for the article in question. If you wish to post a comment solicitation on the Film WikiProject (i.e., provide a link to the article's talk page), that is fine. —Eustress ^talk 02:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

"clean up formatting a bit"

North America and the United States are not the same place, Yank. Varlaam (talk) 14:54, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

How Dare You

I don't know who you are, but what did i do wrong? I'm new to Wikipedia and decided to commemorate Allyn Ferguson and i'm getting thrrats of blocking for "Sockpuppetry" and "disruptive edits". I apologize if iu did something wrong, but why am i'm being harrassed?-Giordano Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giordano Adams (talk • contribs) 21:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Infobox

I disagree. The headings (ex: Reception, Promotion, Casting the main roles) all capitolize the first word, no matter if it is a proper noun or not. Why should we now try and do something different as a smaller heading in the infobox? If the (screenplay) wasn't in parenthasis, it would be above John Williams, also capitolized. So why, now that it is below John Williams, do we not capitolize it?ChaosMaster16 (talk) 16:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)ChaosMaster16

Above, it is working as a header, which works differently than a parenthetical note. BOVINEBOY2008 16:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

But its the same exact thing, its just the parenthasis and smaller text look neater.ChaosMaster16 (talk) 16:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)ChaosMaster16

It isn't the exact same thing, one is a header and one is a note. The capitalization makes it look like a title or something. BOVINEBOY2008 16:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

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Start date

In this edit to the Shrek 2 article you changed the second release date in the infobox to use {{Start date}}. According to the infobox documentation, only the very first release date should use {{Start date}}. I believe this has to do with microformats. - Kollision (talk) 06:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Zac Efron

Hi! Left you a message on my page! --UnicornTapestry (talk) 17:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Futurama (video game)

Hello Bovineboy2008, are you certain the recent edits by an ip editor/new user to Futurama (video game) are incorrect? We currently have no citation for the GameCube/GBA cancellations. Just checking.  Chickenmonkey  19:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, no GameCube or GBA versions are showing up on GameSpot. On IGN, it says release date as TBA. Since they are no longer developing game for Cube, I don't see how they have already released it... BOVINEBOY2008 19:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, it is no where to be found on the Nintendo official website. BOVINEBOY2008 19:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the answer.  Chickenmonkey  19:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

However, the edits appear to be in good faith; so, perhaps further explanation is warranted in the edit summary -- beyond a simple revert, or undo.  Chickenmonkey  19:39, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Last of the American Girls

look. Last of the American Girls is the latest single. It's currently getting radio airplay. It has a music video. I, like everyone, posted sources that it's a single, but u ignored it. HELL, EVEN THE BAND ANNOUNCED IT AS THE SINGLE! So, please, put back my last edit.174.61.35.159 (talk) 19:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this guy gets it. Granted, I don't think he could ever have it, but I digress... HalfShadow 19:37, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Animalz Marine Zoo

A tag has been placed on Animalz Marine Zoo requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, a rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. JamesBWatson (talk) 22:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Category:2010 video games

Why are you removing this category from several games which has been announced for 2010? --Mika1h (talk) 11:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Because they haven't been released in 2010 yet. As soon as they are released in 2010, they can be considered a 2010 game. See similar patterns in the film and television. BOVINEBOY2008 11:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be released. Only confirmed for release that year. See similar patterns in the Category:2011 films and Category:2011 video games. --Mika1h (talk) 11:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, those violate WP:CRYSTAL. We have no guarantee that they will be released this year. BOVINEBOY2008 11:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No they won't if there are reliable sources to back those dates up. "A schedule of future events may be appropriate if it can be verified." --Mika1h (talk) 11:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Well then what do you make of Category:Upcoming video games, should it have both? I think not. I can understand an article containing a list of future dates, but not categories. BOVINEBOY2008 11:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

If it's a 2010 game and it's unreleased, then it should have both. --Mika1h (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

How do you know its is a 2010 game if it hasn't been released yet? You're assuming it will be, but it isn't yet. BOVINEBOY2008 12:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I know if there is reliable source for the date. --Mika1h (talk) 12:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

And I know that films and espcially games are often delayed, sometimes even until the next year. BOVINEBOY2008 12:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

And so they are, then we update the article accordingly. --Mika1h (talk) 12:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

So you are okay with putting out incorrect information? Perhaps we should take this to a more public forum? BOVINEBOY2008 12:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You don't know it's incorrect until they delay it (if they ever will). I go by what the sources say. --Mika1h (talk) 12:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

And I go by reality, sorry. Do you want to take this to WT:VG? BOVINEBOY2008 12:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Mika1h (talk) 12:21, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

A recent reversion

Howdy. I'm curious why you reverted this edit I made? You didn't give a reason in the edit summary.--Rockfang (talk) 19:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have. We don't put external links in inline text, only in references and in the External Links section. Plus, we try to avoid links to wikias. BOVINEBOY2008 19:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Could you please link a guideline or policy that says this? I don't think the links were hurting anything. I figured they were helpful, otherwise I wouldn't have added them. In fact, one of the links you reverted was a plain internal link.--Rockfang (talk) 19:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

See the first line of WP:EL and #12 in WP:ELNO BOVINEBOY2008 19:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok. But that doesn't explain why you removed the internal link. That single doesn't appear to be linked anywhere else in the section.--Rockfang (talk) 19:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi, I've just moved the Puss in Boots (2011 film) article for you as requested. Thanks for all your work here. On looking through your contributions I have a couple of observations which may be helpful.

• Firstly about rollback, please don't use it to undo good faith edits. These should all be reverted with a proper edit summary. For example the author of this edit deserves to know why their edit was undone. Please only use rollback for blatant vandalism.
• Secondly, I was curious about the Puss in Boots film. This version seems quite decent with inline references, etc. However you edit warred to revert it back to a redirect. Yet a month a later you seem to be happy for the article to exist (and the current version has fewer sources!). Redirecting is almost equivalent to deleting an article and I can't help feeling in cases like this that it would be better to open an AfD on the article to get some discussion going. Or at least to contact the author and explain what you have done and why.

Don't get me wrong, I feel your judgements are usually correct and in line with policy, but I'm afraid that your actions may be turning away and discouraging decent editors who just need some guidance and explanation about what they've done wrong. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the notes. I'll be doing more to change my edit habits. I don't really have any good explanation other than being lazy. BOVINEBOY2008 12:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, cool. No more laziness then please ;) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Rugrats

No worries, consuming information is what I do best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.60.163 (talk) 00:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Book 4 of Inheritance

I am think of Noming it for pending Changes as it seems to meet the Criteria any thoughts or Should we send it back to Semi-Protection? Weaponbb7 (talk) 02:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Inception

I am new here. I just saw your private message. I am still learning to contribute for Wikipedia's articles. I tried to edit Inception page just now but I failed to. May I know the problem?Christopherkong (talk) 14:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

The page is semi-protected. You need to be autoconfirmed to edit it now. You can either find another page to work on until then, or you can put requests on the talk page with {{Editsemiprotected}}. BOVINEBOY2008 17:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

RE: Vandalism

You may be right that I jumped the gun, although if you'll take a close look, editor Sufi34745 removed a functional formula that prevented editing errors. In any event, thanks for your message, and have a nice day. Cresix (talk) 20:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Welcoming

I'm all for welcoming new users, but welcoming BottomProber (talk · contribs)? Toddst1 (talk) 02:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

About the Squidward Tentacles aticle

Well, Bovineboy2008, I was going to add secondary sources, but the next day I find out my article was made into a redirect.Dragonite023383 (talk) 11:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Try building it in your namespace, like User:Dragonite023383/Squidward, then it can be moved over when it is a sufficient stub at least. By the way, what were your secondary sources? BOVINEBOY2008 16:13, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Bovineboy2008, Thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia. I am extremely interested in navboxes and, more generally, information design. I'm reading up on them at the moment--getting ready to contribute. If there's anything or anyone I should know please point me in the right direction. What do you do here? Sightbyvision (talk) 02:16, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I edit articles, mostly on formatting and syntax. Also mostly on entertainment articles. I do a lot of Template editing as well. For navigation boxes, see WP:CLN for the actual guidelines and WP:NAV is an essay about which most editors agree. Feel free to shoot me any questions you have. BOVINEBOY2008 02:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Help

I'm trying to get a template to work and it keeps giving an error. User:Bovineboy2008/Template. BOVINEBOY2008 16:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

What do you want to do with it? I'm not a parser functions expert but I can help if you explain what is it exactly. Diego Grez ^{what's up?} 16:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I want it to use {{Upcoming film}} if the date entered is less than the current date. So if an entry's date happened before today, then it wouldn't use the template. BOVINEBOY2008 16:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, can't help you there, but surely another helper will pop-in soon. Diego Grez ^{what's up?} 16:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. BOVINEBOY2008 17:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Inception name

I noticed the debate over naming the film Inception even though it says no consensus was more opposed. And yet the film is now called Inception. How did that happen. Jhenderson777 (talk) 23:12, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It has been resolved. Sorry for the delayed response. BOVINEBOY2008 12:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Inception move

Probably best to have the admin who moved it move it back. I don't have time right not to deal with wheel waring. If no response then start another discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! BOVINEBOY2008 12:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

User Majorclanger

Hey Bovineboy2008, Block Majorclanger. He kepts reverting edits. So Here's the plan.

• Majorclanger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Vandalism - obvious revert edits.

So Block Majorclanger. FarmAgentRunning (talk) 22:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)