User talk:BoonDock/List of Senior Military Posts in South Africa
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[edit]Hi. I think the page is a good idea but I would do it slightly differently. I would list the posts, maybe with an org chart. For example - "The most senior post in the SANDF is that of Chief of the SANDF. The following positions (as of 2014) report to him.
- CARMY
- CNAVY
- CAF"
- Then have a section for CARMY, and list the posts that report in there. (Like the info on the Navy page). I would not list all the names of past office holders on this page - it would just be duplication of list of SA military chiefs. If need be we can split off the CARMY from list of military chiefs and create a new page - then use see also to link to it from this article (and miltary chiefs). Just my 2c Gbawden (talk) 07:24, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- I like the idea. Not what my intention was here, but still a great idea. What I actually wanted was the posts that DON'T fit on the list of military chiefs on this page. I was just using these lists as examples of using the template/formatting.. I was thinking more along the lines of "Deputy Chief of the Army", "Surgeon General", "General in charge of counting mess kits" etc. There are in the region of 216 general officers, and I guess that each one must hold some sort of post... While it would be riduclous to have all the posts listed, there is surely a happy medium between the Command Council and every Gen? The more I think about it, the more a structure of the posts makes sense... but I would still like to have the post incumbents in a list that is NOT just the succession boxes on their pages. I have noticed on a few occasions that those boxes get out of sync or have some wierd info in them and they are generally not well referenced. I figured that this page (or one like it) could be the "master list" ?? BoonDock (talk) 12:19, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- Good point. Tracking a post through succession boxes is also a pain. I am happy to have a list of incumbents under a post - but where we already have a page (like military chiefs) then we point there and don't relist it. So for example
- I like the idea. Not what my intention was here, but still a great idea. What I actually wanted was the posts that DON'T fit on the list of military chiefs on this page. I was just using these lists as examples of using the template/formatting.. I was thinking more along the lines of "Deputy Chief of the Army", "Surgeon General", "General in charge of counting mess kits" etc. There are in the region of 216 general officers, and I guess that each one must hold some sort of post... While it would be riduclous to have all the posts listed, there is surely a happy medium between the Command Council and every Gen? The more I think about it, the more a structure of the posts makes sense... but I would still like to have the post incumbents in a list that is NOT just the succession boxes on their pages. I have noticed on a few occasions that those boxes get out of sync or have some wierd info in them and they are generally not well referenced. I figured that this page (or one like it) could be the "master list" ?? BoonDock (talk) 12:19, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
CArmy
- see list of military chiefs
Deputy CARMY
- person 1
- person 2
etc
We should probably limit the list to posts typically held by brigadier generals or above. Gbawden (talk) 12:34, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- True.
1. Good point 2. Agreed From Brig.. implies all Generals :-) 3. That's why I said "senior" posts. I suspect there are some posts that are important but Incumbents are Captain (SAN) or Colonel.. Chief of Staff SF Brigade is one example that springs to mind... BoonDock (talk) 13:23, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Navy org
[edit]I am busy with https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Gbawden/Organisation_of_the_South_African_Navy. This is to try understand all the different positions and what rank level occupied them. Has been quite confusing! Gbawden (talk) 09:35, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- Good luck with that. Just keeping straight the change is names of posts and their dates is a challange. Life Chief of Defence force for example. BoonDock (talk) 13:26, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yup. The worst is that Chief of Naval Staff Operations seems to have been a 2star post, while Commander Naval Operations Command was a one star. And some of the other commands were commanded by Captains. Luckily found some books that helped with the organograms. Gbawden (talk) 13:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- If you contact me off-wiki (dovey.john@gmail.com) I'd be happy to give you the email address of Chris Bennett (admiral) who is very approachable and I'm sure would be prepared to help. BoonDock (talk) 14:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yup. The worst is that Chief of Naval Staff Operations seems to have been a 2star post, while Commander Naval Operations Command was a one star. And some of the other commands were commanded by Captains. Luckily found some books that helped with the organograms. Gbawden (talk) 13:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)