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I'm new to wiki and have a lot of family information about charles Morritt - photographs, diaries etc but I don't know how to upload them  Beulahniece (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Beulahniece (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately Wikipedia is not the appropriate venue for family information such as diaries and the like; our content must be based on reliable published sources such as newspapers, reputable magazines, peer-reviewed scholarly papers or the like. My advice would be to create a personal website and to use it to publish that information.

Photos are a slightly different matter; whether we can use those depends on copyright. Usually copyright expires 70 years after the death of the creator of a work (ie the photographer); such images become part of the public domain (though US copyright law has different rules and may also be relevant if the photos were ever published in the US). If the photographer has died less than 70 years ago but you are the photographer's heir (as might be the case for family photos), then you own the copyright and can release the photos under a free license that allows everybody to re-use them for any purpose, including ommercial purposes. Public domain images and freely licensed ones can be uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons via their Upload Wizard. Huon (talk) 21:13, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Huon: Hi The 2 newspaper articles cited as resources used our family’s own research notes and diaries etc as my father is the Norman Allen quoted in the Daily Mail article, who uncovered Charles Morritt’s history. My dad has since died and his papers have been passed to me.Beulahniece (talk) 18:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am the great great niece of Sarah Elizabeth Morritt (Bessie) who was the common law wife of Charles and she performed on stage with him as a mind readerBeulahniece (talk) 18:27, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Daily Mail is a source of dubious reliability. That aside, those newspapers are published - our readers can look them up and verify what they say, and we can presume that the journalists did some kind of fact-checking. For comparison, if Wikipedia relied on your personal knowledge and your family's research notes (which I presume have not been published by a reputable publisher), then I too could claim to be some distant relative of Morritt's who has some special unpublished family knowledge about him - how could our readers tell that you are right and I'm wrong?

Another issue is that those newspapers are secondary sources, the kinds of sources Wikipedia content should be based on. Your not-quite-ancestor's diaries, for comparison, are primary sources, which largely shouldn't be used as sources on Wikipedia. Huon (talk) 20:40, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Beulahniece. As Huon has stated, secondary sources are needed. The primary sources would need to be used by (edited reliable) secondary sources elsewhere. Here are some ideas:

Post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Magic, and see if they have any ideas/contacts
Jim Steinmeyer's Hiding the Elephant has significant coverage of Morritt (both biographical and from an illusion designer's perspective) -- I may have missed it, but the credits don't appear to directly list your father or the Morritts. His email is info at jimsteinmeyer.com.
Contact magic societies The Magic Circle and International Brotherhood of Magicians
Donate the collection to a library (and notify relevant societies and magazines such as Genii)

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