User talk:Bethany Robertson
February 2022
[edit] Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Nizie Emirshah, from its old location at User:Bethany Robertson/sandbox. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 03:41, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello Bethany Robertson. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Bethany Robertson. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Bethany Robertson|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}
. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. CUPIDICAE💕 17:17, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello CUPIDICAE💕. I am not getting paid for the edits I am making. I do work for the company that I am trying to make this page for, but they are not paying me directly or indirectly for the creation of the article. I also am not getting paid for any other edits I am making. Please help me understand why the pages are getting tagged for deletion. I do not understand. I have spent many hours finding sources, and writing the articles based on those sources. I have written everything based on reliable sources that I could find. If I need to make a discoluser on my page for my employement status, please let me know. I was not aware of this policy. Please help, I do not understand. I am not trying to violate any guidelines at all; I would just like to create new pages that do not exist yet, and improve existing pages. Bethany Robertson (talk) 17:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Nizie Emirshah (February 11)
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Hello, Bethany Robertson!
Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Devonian Wombat (talk) 08:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of International Digital Fashion Week
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A tag has been placed on International Digital Fashion Week, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of International Digital Fashion Week
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A tag has been placed on International Digital Fashion Week, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 02:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of International Digital Fashion Week (IDFW)
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A tag has been placed on International Digital Fashion Week (IDFW), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. CUPIDICAE💕 17:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Nizie Emirshah (February 18)
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February 2022
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. Bbb23 (talk) 18:33, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Bethany Robertson. Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia-- the world's largest free content encyclopedia. The page Draft:International Digital Fashion Week (IDFW) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
This article needs to be rewritten from scratch from reliable, third party sources unconnected to the subject. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not an outlet for promotion, advocacy, or advertising.
Information on content and common pitfalls to avoid can be located here and here, however be aware that this is not an exhaustive list. Pages can sometimes avoid these pitfalls and still be seen as an ad copy or unambiguously promotional, particularly if the editor appears to be a paid editor or has some other conflict of interest. Please review these policies, including the FAQ page on organizations to determine if this applies to you.
Common mistakes or beliefs about promotional editing center on the assumption that promotional editing only applies to promotion for commercial gain. Some tags or G11 nominations are met with confusion by creators, particularly if they spend much time reading or creating corporate documents, mission/vision statements, or similar copy for their organization. The frequent exposure to promotional tone may make it difficult to notice non-neutral phrases or styles, as the editor has grown accustomed to seeing it as everyday writing or speech. This can be difficult, but not impossible, to unlearn.
Another common assumption is that the prohibition against promotional editing applies only to businesses or organizations. Anything can be promoted, including a person, a non-commercial organization, a point of view, etc. and CV/resumé's are by their nature promotional.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia-- subjects must meet notability guidelines with reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and providing verifiable information. That generally means someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject. Please see this page on citing sources. This page has templates you can use in citing your sources. Place the template {{references}} at the bottom of the page, and references cited in the text will appear there. New article creation can be difficult, but the Article Wizard can help you. The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. You can also ask for help at the TEAHOUSE and on IRC chat.
--Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
"work for the company that I am trying to make this page for"
[edit]Even if you are not receiving money, you still meet WP:PAID requirements --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:36, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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Bethany Robertson (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
At the time of the blocking, I did not understand the policies surrounding spam/advertising. I have since re-reviewed those policies to understand them, and I now understand where I went wrong. I did not intend to violate Wikipedia's policies around spam/advertising; I genuinely thought I was doing good in contributing to Wikipedia. I did not realize that I was required to disclose my employment to Wikipedia, and that I would not be allowed to edit pages related to my work if I was not getting paid. I promise that I will not make any more edits or create any more articles related to my place of work. This was something that I did independently, outside of the company, thinking that it would be a nice, positive thing to do. I did not realize that, in creating the pages I was creating, and in editing the pages I was editing, that I was violating Wikipedia's policies. I did not intend to do so, and I apologize for making such violations. Please know that I am new to Wikipedia. I misunderstood the policies, and I apologize for this misunderstanding. I did not understand why my pages were not getting accepted. I tried to edit them based on what I could see was wrong with them. When the deletion for International Digital Fashion Week was proposed, I thought it was because I hadn't cited enough sources, and that some of the language was incorrect. I made changes accordingly and was surprised when my page was still marked for deletion and deleted. I went over my article again, tried to edit it and add more sources, thinking that this would improve the article and keep it from being spam/advertising. When it was marked again as Spam/Advertising, I was very surprised. I had thought I had done everything right, and that my article was good for Wikipedia. When my account was blocked from editing, I was equally surprised. I did not realize that I was violating Wikipedia's policies; I thought I was doing good. I have since taken the time to review Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and the reason why I was blocked, and I see where I went wrong. I realize now that I should not be writing about IDFW, since I work for them. Even though I was acting independently from the company and was not getting paid for my contributions, I see where this would violate Wikipedia's policies; I would inherently have bias due to my working status, and this would disrupt the integrity of the article. I did not understand this before, but I do now. I would like to disclose my employment status on my user page, as was recommended by an admin. I also promise that I will not ever again edit anything or create any articles related to my place of work. Instead, I would love to contribute to Wikipedia by proposing edits on other pages or proposing the creation of a page. I will not make direct edits or create new articles any longer. I would instead, like to propose edits, so that I do not unintentionally cause harm. I did not intend to violate any policies or do any harm to Wikipedia. I understand now that my actions were harmful, and I will not act in that way again.Bethany Robertson (talk) 17:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
In taking a deeper dive, I concur with Bbb23 in that there are still a lot of questions here that needs to be addressed. 331dot (talk) 19:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
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Bbb23 I think this request ticks the relevant boxes for me, but if I've missed something I'd appreciate your eyes. 331dot (talk) 18:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Bethany, who is User:Marie Sur De Soi?--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Bbb23. I don't know who User:Marie Sur De Soi is. I don't know anyone with that username. Why am I being asked about this user? Bethany Robertson (talk) 15:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- As you know, you created International Digital Fashion Week. It was tagged for deletion per WP:G11. Marie, whose account was created on February 13, removed the tag. After the tag was restored, Marie removed it a second time. Those were the only two edits Marie has made to date. It's hard to believe that she isn't either an account you created, a sock puppet, or a meat puppet who is also affiliated with your company.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- I should add that you attempted to remove the speedy tag several times but were disallowed by edit filters. I think it's very hard to argue that you didn't know that what you were doing was a violation of policy. Just in case it's not clear from my comments, 331dot, I oppose an unblock of this user; I don't trust her.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- As you know, you created International Digital Fashion Week. It was tagged for deletion per WP:G11. Marie, whose account was created on February 13, removed the tag. After the tag was restored, Marie removed it a second time. Those were the only two edits Marie has made to date. It's hard to believe that she isn't either an account you created, a sock puppet, or a meat puppet who is also affiliated with your company.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Bbb23. I don't know who User:Marie Sur De Soi is. I don't know anyone with that username. Why am I being asked about this user? Bethany Robertson (talk) 15:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)